Damn, dude. You really took a Raycon sponsorship... Have loved being a subscriber to you, but I can't support someone who supports obvious scams... Cheers for the many great videos man. It's been great!
I feel like making the mandalorian into a movie (no doubt packed with cameos etc) completely misses the point why people fell in love with S1 in the first place
If they keep it low stakes I think it could work. But nah.. you're right its probably gonna be a cameofest complete with fully AI voiced and generated Luke
I still feel like season 3 regardless of any opinions on its quality felt like the end. Mandalore is reclaimed and Din and Grogu are united. The two characters feel they don’t have much story to tell and can just be supporting characters in other projects. Now we have the ideas of “thrawn can be the big bad, mythosaur etc” but how do those things serve the story of mando dad and grogurt? I see a lot of people talk about the tie ins to the wider universe but I don’t see a lot of talk about the two characters that made the mandalorian a hit. It was just these two characters and some low stakes that made season 1 a hit.
@@CyberSonic-V3.0Fr, and you’re right like they’re trying to set up these shows like it’s the mcu being interconnected but obviously that wasn’t even a big emphasis in the beginning. Like I get it if they want to do one more thing but hype and trust are at an all time low and the only way I see them recovering is making new stories that are quality and not more milking. But let’s be honest that’s a big ass prayer that most of us don’t see coming true
It’s basically a follow up to what Jango said with: “I’m just a simple man trying to make his way in the universe.” The Mandalorian takes that concept and explores it with Din who travels planet by planet, claiming his next bounty, and meeting all sorts of people whether it be friends or foes. That was the core of the show to me. I don’t know where any of this is going anymore. I remember in season 3 hating episode 3 because we randomly cut to this other character we only know little about and follow this boring side plot regarding the new republic. I don’t know whose idea it is but I hate the fact that these shows waste runtimes to focus on pointless characters and subplots; hijacking someone else’s story. It’s a scummy move. Book of boba fett and the mandalorian season 3 suffered because of this and it shows.
Grogu actually growing up is what the Din/Grogu dynamic on the Mandalorian DESPERATELY needs. But Grogu is way too marketable just like he is. He is so marketable in stagnation that they couldn’t let Din/Grogu be separated for any meaningful length of time and they immediately reversed the ending of Season 2. There is no way Grogu is ever growing up and getting a meaningful arc, especially in movie form where Disney is banking on that marketability
Honestly strongly disagree on the filter point about the Mandalorian. The episodes where nothing bigger happens but we just learn a little bit about everyday life in the starwars universe were fantastic! I loved the series being a view of star wars from a more normal view than any film could do. Which is why I felt the later series lost it a bit and I'm worried about a film
I think the filler would've been better served in a show that had longer seasons. With a show only 8 episodes a season, should 3-4 of those episodes really have little or nothing to do with the overall plot?
These are not mutually exclusive concepts. If the show is done well, then the world building can absolutely be part of the story. Look at Andor. There was very little filler there, everything was building towards the ending, and yet I feel like I learned more about everyday life in the SW universe in that one show than I've learned since the original trilogy.
No, you can't cut the spider cave scene without any loss of narrative. That scene is a part of Grogu's development, as he learns to have sympathy for that frog lady and her offspring, plus it establishes the relationship between Din Djarin and the Starfighter Captain, and of course deepening the relationship between Grogu and Din. It might seem like a pointless diversion, but it has it's place.
You could segue these moments into another episode, doesn’t justify the runtime and is a complete side quest. Not without it’s fun but it pads out the season
@@FullFatVideos Oh yeah you could move all that character development to another episode, but my point is what that episode gives the characters is some time to interact. Whether it's in the spider cave or cruising around in the Razorcrest, they still need to spend that time. The episode isn't wasted.
After Andor, Lucasfilm should offer Tony Gilroy whatever he wants for another movie. People generally liked Rogue One. Another movie like that could be cool. The Mandalorian movie has the potential to be good but given that quality of the show recently, I doubt it will live up to said potential.
9:26 Come on pal, we don't need to be so kind after all the mistakes that have been made so far: Dave CAN'T direct live action and I think, by all means, let him write his upcoming film but get somebody else to direct it. He's only going to end up embarrassing himself and I'm sure none of us want that.
*The movie ends triumphantly with Grogu standing tall as an adult, we cut to a spoiler reveal that the movie is actually titled "The Mandalorian and Din". Star Wars is good again.* But there's no chance of that, right? It will just be another shitty cynical cash grab by a company that has no need of grabbing any more cash. It'll look worse than the TV show and Favreau continues to have a finger stuck up there because he can see the way this is all going. Fool me once, fool me twice, fool me thrice, but they won't get me again.
Movies used to have to deal with making their money back. Then they had to deal with being expected to launch a trilogy. Now they are expected to launch a cinematic universe and hit a billion at the box office
Yeah. Force Awakens ruined it for the franchise, ironically. It making more than $2 Billion raised the minimum floor for a Star War. I fully believe they intended the Star Wars Story in-between movies to be lower-stakes (both plot and expected box office), but after $2B, anything less than $1.5B would be seen as a massive failure. That's why they had to go back and completely retool Rogue One. The original version, while I'm sure it was more cohesive and maybe even a better movie, was clearly not going to make $2B or even $1B, so they had to Vader it up and bump everything up to a more typical Star War. They've been chasing $2 Billion ever since, and it'll never achieve that level again unless it lies fallow for another fifteen years. I think going forward, $900 Million is going to be the ceiling for a Star Wars film, with $700 Million being what they will have to settle on as being a hit.
The Mandalorian isn’t just Grogu The Mandalorian is every single character besides Pedro Pascal Gus Fring in a Mandalorian suit? Mandalorian. Bo Katan? Obviously. The sheriff character? Just wait.
The first season particularly eps 1-3,7-8 the actual ones that have a through line story, Have a small simple charm, I rewatch quite often, And I’ve found the reason why is because it’s entirely its own corner of the Star Wars universe, that’s why Andor I love so much, it’s completely different and focuses has confidence to be its own thing without relying on big names. Mando 2 I like but ages worse as the days go by, it should never have been tied in so heavily with Falonis world, cause it now makes you have to watch a bunch of other shows and it’s a spider web of disasterous proportions. I do believe bringing Luke in he had every right, as the only legacy character cause he’s the only Jedi around (Ahsoka died in rebels💀)… but they shit the bed, they should’ve announced a movie centred on mando and grogu while Luke was training him, could be a empire strikes back parallel story, seeing mando and grogu in their own, amazing. Anyway the Ahsoka show was a perfect example that putting in familiar faces with zero substance to get a temporary high will age like poo, that show is terrible. Wooden acting, terrible writing and directing. This mando movie shouldn’t have absolutely no connection to any of what Faloni is doing imo, be it’s own thing then when it’s time for mando to join we can see what he’s up to in the Faloni avengers style movie, I pretty much described what the MCU phase 1-3 did so well and it was creating separate stand alone films and the filmmakers don’t bog the story down in world building. That’s why I’ll sour if in andor 2 there’s more familiar characters and it loses its substance, that’s what Faloni would do if he took over andor, bunch of people we recognise who have zero character development and look pew pew action same old bullshit
The one thing I have to strongly disagree on is the idea that seasons 1-2 had a filler problem. I think the show was often at its best when working in a more episodic fashion with relatively self-contained Adventure Of The Week type episodes. That was part of what made it feel so much like the classic western serials that inspired Star Wars to begin with. In fact I think moving to a more serialized, over arching narrative has actually been the shows biggest weakness in season 3. It couldn't deliver on the larger retaking Mandalore/fighting Moff Gideon plot because it's a show that shines when it's doing smaller scale, more personal stories.
The classic saying of "Cautiously Optimistic "comes to mind when I think about this movie. I don't get why it needs to exist, to be honest it almost sounds like it's just going to be the show compacted, but maybe there will be some essential stuff, too. And it's a shame that The Mandalorian was killed as the sleeper name of Grogu because of that one episode of Book of Boba Fett referring to Din as The Mandalorian. They should probably just rename this series The Mandalorians because then we can explore what it means to be one from the many different angles this show has taken us anyway. But whatever, can't have anything nice anymore. The most hyped stuff in Star Wars that I care about is animated anyway. Animated Star Wars has been going strong since 2008 (or really 2003 but I'm more focused on Lucasfilm Animation than outsourced stuff), and say what you will about Resistance, but when you can just watch it instead of going week to week, it's a pretty decent show. The Bad Batch has been one of my favorite things in Star Wars as of late, Tales of the Jedi promises to be even better as it goes on with more diverse characters taking the focus over Ahsoka (I sure hope that's the case anyway), and while not made by Lucasfilm Animation specifically, Young Jedi Adventures is weirdly enjoyable despite being a preschooler show, and neither am I in that demographic or know anyone that would be in that demographic. And let's not forget Star Wars Visions, which while not canon has given us some great stories, too. Everyone complained how the Ahsoka series wasn't like Andor, but I don't want everything to be like Andor, and nor do I want everything to be live action either because if it weren't for tying into all the Mando-Verse stuff, I think Ahsoka would have been even better (I quite enjoyed it as is, but still) if it were animated because of how much it tied into Rebels' open ended Finale. The Bad Batch ends with this upcoming Season, and I'm more excited for not only it, but whatever may come after it than more of the Mando-Verse shows. That doesn't mean I think they're bad, I like that they pull from everything and make a more cohesive world than the Sequels, but animation, while taking more time, has just given me the stories I'm more interested in, stories I didn't even know I wanted, they can be a bit more liberal with the physics and it not look weird, and the characters and worlds can be more fantastical than you'd ever see in live action (just as an example, the Pykes are terrible in live action but are great in animation). You couldn't get away with Quick-Draw Quasar in live action, and we know this because it happened back in Attack of the Clones, but in Bad Batch, 2 seconds of this racecar driver with a battle droid head on a protocol droid body gives me the giggles and I love him. And I'm sure that Disney's hesitant to greenlight any Star Wars animated movies, but it's been over 15 years since the Clone Wars movie that never should have been a movie, let's actually make a dedicated Star Wars movie that can only be animated and get more people interested in this side of Star Wars that way than ripping characters from animation and putting them in live action shows. Do it the other way and make an essential piece of the Mando-Verse animated just to mess with people. Or continue the Solo plot thread with an animated story focusing on Maul and Qi'ra because I know people want more, but I don't know how well that's going to translate in live action because of how much dubbing needs to be done for Ray Park, and Maul clearly works better in animation anyway. There's always comics and books, but that's just even more niche stuff, animation is the best thing for people that don't want to read to see stories play out, and it's flexible enough to allow for any story to be put on screen that live action just can't, or at least would be too prohibitively expensive with photoreal CGI. More love for Star Wars animation from the general public please!
Not going to lie, grogu should have just stayed with Luke. Season 2 perfectly tied up his story with djin and season 3 should have been djin becoming mandolore. Grogu isn’t a character but a prop. It doesn’t help that djin also isn’t much of a character either but that could have changed.
When Season 2 ended, I figured Grogu would remain on the show but in a separate storyline from Din. Din would be taking back Mandolore alongside Bo-Katan and Grogu would be simultaneously training with the new Jedi Order & maybe towards the end of the season they get reunited. I never imagined they would undo the ending of Season 2 before Season 3 even began. They really don’t want us to take this story seriously
If anything, this potentially upcoming film is the point where the two of them should've been reunited, having completed their own stories and become older and wiser people, it would've been the perfect opportunity for a moving and powerful moment in their story
@@FullFatVideos Concur, it's "its". It's is short for "it is" . I know, English is confusing, it sucks for all of us lol Edit: Dang that was fast, good job
The whole thing is beyond played out. Originally, Boba Fett was a ruthless bounty hunter, even though he didn’t pose much of a threat to Luke. Not knowing much about him, made the universe feel big. KOTOR expanded on Mandalorians and they come across as a different culture there, and actually feel warlike, who regarded lives as disposable. Then came Filoni and they went from lame to lamer. Then they decided to make the posterboy of Mandalorians a fairly sensitive dad guy who is mostly saved by plot armor and invincible Beskar armor. The lore became pretty dumb and barren. There is just the armor-smith lady and a handful of often repeated phrases and concepts. I guess going fishing in real life is more detailled and varied than bounty hunting. Bounty Hunters should have inventive technology, “best practices”, connections, perhaps profession-rules and so on. So instead of a “exception of the rule” with the stoic and brutal warrior who bonds with a child, Din Djarin is more of a “nice guy” and he’s so prominent and on the poster that his “the way” is now the typical. Another adventure with a child sounds incredibly boring and unexciting. Grogu as more than a temporary mcguffin sounds terrible. When they seriously now introduce several Jedi-Mandalorians, and one Yoda-Jedi-Mandalorian. I just cringe. It’s very unfortunate development of a once amazing franchise. This has nothing anymore that made the universe so great back then.
IMO we were in for a rough ride the minute Disney gave Mando an episode of Boba Fett's show so he could reunite with Grogu. It displays Disney's inability to prioritize (seeing as they have to plug another character's show in Boba Fett's) and they're incapable of being content with a complete story arc (Din learning to let go of the child he's been raising for 2 years).
When this was announced my immediate thought was 'meh I'll watch it on D+' The only SW movies I've deliberately not seen in the cinema are the TCW movie and Solo.
Because Papa Iger said “stop fucking around lucasfilm, give me some fucking product we can make money off, it’s been forever” Kath: “the most recent movie announcements are still years away and we’re about to shoot Mando season 4” Iger: “and it’s now a movie. People love baby Yoda. get Fav to reverse engineer the story to make it into a fun summer blockbuster. It’s coming out next year” End of fucking story
Honestly, I know it's not a popular opinion, but I think if any Star Wars movie needs to be next it NEEDS to be the Rey movie. The sooner we rip off the bandaid and start fresh in a new era with a new Jedi order where anything can happen the better... But with this move they've probably doomed the Rey movie if it goes wrong.
They really screwed up such an easy way to age Grogu all for the sake of a "gotcha" in the first season. If hes 50, he should be around 5ish human years. Young adult around 180 tp 190 years old. 900 for Yoda would be 90 for us. Simple math, but now he cant even say words.
I fear Grogu will continue to be a victim of his own popularity. Allowing him to talk would change the status quo. It would be a risk. There would be no going back. This is the one new character everyone knows about and likes, and he’s not tied to an actor. They aren’t going to CHANGE him.
Making the protagonist of the unique, grounded, western/samurai inspired story the Iron Man of the Star Wars universe is the most out of touch, mind-numbingly stupid decision I’ve ever seen from Lucasfilm, it’s so transparently desperate and against Din’s entire concept as a character that they should be ashamed.
I want them to do something contemplative and existential with this movie, but I'm getting more and more worried the inherent quality of the first two seasons was a fluke, born about by Filoni having proved himself with animated stuff but still having the freedom to do something new. 'Baby Yoda' is part of the brand now, which means he'll always be a cute and marketable baby, except for maybe a tacked on epilogue to some future movie or show, or possibly a comic if we're talking a decade+ later.
Well I have been giving SW another chance and another for to long. The franchise just seems to be going a direction Im not enjoying. Mando S3 was my final straw and just like Ahsoka Im taking a hard pass on all of this. TBB S3 and Andor S2 are most likely my GOTG 3s of SW, where once that's done so am I with this franchise, while still remebering the stuff that was enjoyable.
I know what you mean. if it wasn't for Percy Jackson getting renewed, I probably would have canceled my Disney Plus subscription after Bad Batch S3. Because Star Wars has been doing a terrible job at giving me reasons to stick around.
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Star Wars is an endless canvas on which anyone could paint a masterpiece (or something great) but everyone just keeps adding more strokes onto existing art. New time period, new characters, new stakes. Tell a new space opera! Stick within the parameters of what Star Wars "is" but break free of all the oppresive canon. I really thought they were gonna make a bunch of interconnected shows that span 1000 years with Grogu connecting them all but no one's got the chops to achitect something that cool. Apparently.
100% agree about the volume and needing to bring Greg Frasier or at least someone who is experienced with the volume onto this. My worry is that if the script isn’t good or genuine that he won’t sign on to it.
In this show Grogu definitely needs to age up and do more, as a co-lead I dont want to sit through Grogu doing cute baby-ish things, we had the show for that. I want this to be a passing of the torch movie since those movies are very emotional for me and its why I love Andor so much, please do more with these characters and dont be a disappointment.
LucasArts was an unsung hero here in keeping the brand in public memory with games (of varying qualities) coming out pretty much every year. Even if not that many people played it, there was always some cool shit coming out just around the corner and they usually innovated somewhere and weren't a reskin (notable exception star wars II: -The Age of Kings- galactic battlegrounds). If they retire the band completely for several years, they'll end up being like the world of darkness after CCP held the IP and have to rebuild from the brand wilderness, starting with getting people under 30 to show up
The logic of Grogu being the title Mandalorian aside, 'The Mandalorian and Grogu' is such a clunky name. 'The Mandalorians' would have been more fitting as a title imo.
@@FullFatVideosyep. You gave the play by play on the 3vDooku fight. Look, I get that you cut yourself off from the force because of the utter lifeless mediocrity of so many things they've done lately... But Andor is different, it's not like other Disney Star Wars. Seriously it's like Tony Gilroy just snuck into the studio and made the show before any of the executives could even tell him to fill it with cameos and make the stormtroopers useless. It's brilliant and made my cold & jaded heart feel things. But you're the chosen one. You have the gift to take the things people love & show them a whole new reason to appreciate them even more. You're one of the GOATs mate, and Andor is worthy.
@@Keyatzin I can't believe I came so close to skipping Andor after the disaster that was Kenobi. I figured if getting actual Obi-Wan back wasn't enough, then nothing ever would be - especially the backstory of some guy who already died in the movies and didn't leave much of an impression. But then I gave it a try because I was at a loose end, and it was honestly incredible. Not just good Star Wars, but great TV full stop.
@@FullFatVideos Yup and I am subscribed. I watched your vids since you did that breakdown of Captain America, and have consistently recieved notifications. Its been too quiet the past few months.
Them making this film isn't meant to be a desperate attempt to get you back into star wars, it's meant to try and recuperate some of the budget spent on the mandalorian because *steeaming services don't make money*
Make Grogu the main character of Star Wars forever (seeing as he can live for 100s of years) and have the story take place in order and focus on new threats and stories. Enough of this bouncing all over the place storytelling that they've been doing since the begining with characters that we know are either going to die or just go away and never be seen again. Why does every main character need to be some boring human when you can have an alien msin character that could live for hundreds of years, travel the galaxy making new friends and then have to let them go as he will outlive them: always running and never looking back because he dare not out of fear: and fear leads to the Dark Side.
It definitely feels like they're going the safe route and want a safe film in the theaters first before they move onto things that might be more risky. Honestly though Tony Gilroy is the one making the best Star Wars films and series in the Disney era and I honestly feel they should go back to 5 seasons Gilroy originally wanted with Andor. Idk I just don't feel too excited with Lucasfilm putting more and more of their baskets into the "Filoniverse" when it favors fan service over story.
I haven’t watched andor or mando s3 the bad batch tales from the empire or the first eps of the acolyte so yeah I think I have been very much done. I only make videos about the older stuff which is different or speculation videos when I think it’s interesting.
This movie has a lot of potential to be good, but its almost definitely going to tank miserably and be terrible. Ill not watch it until i can find it for free somewhere
At this point I just do not care about the "mandoverse" side of star wars content. Book of boba fett was a mess with some ideas I thought were okay, mamdo season 3 was awful and Ahsoka was such a bore I couldn't finish it. I'll keep an eye out for Andor and the animated shows, but the main stuff is not for me anymore. Stixking to the high republic and the comics for now, they rule telling new good stories.
In my opinion it can’t be just Jon Favereau . He needs Filoni’s Star Wars show experience just as much as Dave needs Favereau’s live action directing experience. After Mando S1, Disney put so many projects onto both of them and the projects suffered. Eventually, we got Boba Fett with minimal Filoni input, and Ahsoka with little Faverau involvement, and both were worse for it… A creator should never be trapped in one medium, and Filoni has been doing Star Wars for almost 20 years now, but it is clear that his work with Animation is better than his attempts at live action, and I think the Bad Batch premiere shows that. SPOILERS!! It also shows just how trapped all Star Wars projects are right now by having to world build backwards to prop up The Rise of Skywalker and the dumb decisions that were made there regarding the return of Palpatine…
It really sets the tone that he starts the video off by whining that the title doesnt line up with his fan theory 😂😂😂 And filler? This isnt anime or any kind of adaptation, what hes describing is just a normal tv show episode. We used to get 24 a season but he thinks 8 is too much? And what a basic movie plot. Oh Grogu grows up and Mando dies? Not a creative bone in his body.
Grogu should’ve not come back. Mando S3 should’ve been about uniting roamin and different Mandos with Din alongside Bo getting them to be one once more. The show is more than just Grogu
@@FullFatVideos Just so I'm a little clear, that was my point. It seems that the execs in charge and literally zero understanding of what will make Star Wars work both as a cultural phenomenon like it used to be, and give fans new stuff to chew on. The apathy I feel towards Star Wars is frankly insane, considering how much I hyped up TFA.
Good points overall, but I disagree very strongly about Mangold’s movie sounding boring, and “Who asked for this?” is a question that always really annoys me. The best pieces of media are never the things people are asking for; they’re the things that the creators are passionate to make and release regardless of the audience poll popularity of the idea - see Andor.
Whilst I do agree, I hate going back to the start for origins especially when there’s really no pressing questions that need answered. And Mangold hasn’t necessarily made this out of pure passion, it’s a franchise deal
Idk, after the last 19 or so announced Star Wars films got cancelled I somewhat doubt this will ever be a thing. God I’d love to know what dirt KK has on Disney execs.
I feel like this is the first one announced since the sequels that actually has a concrete chance of getting made. Favreau will churn it out and has no problem working with Disney
I'm 16 years old and I can tell you my generation don't care about rey or the sequel trilogy none my friends ever talked about any of the sequels so there won't be a resurgence for that crap
I agree that the movie feels like a desperate financial decision more then a creative choice, but I disagree with a few of your points. Grogu being the mandolorian in the title is not accurate. Sure Grogu will probably become a mando at some point, probably in the movie or season 4, but Dinn is still THE mandolorian. Dinn who brought people back to mandalore. Another thing I disagree with is your no more filler as a pro. This is because Mandolorian is at its best when he is just hunting random bountys and doing quests that arent super entrenched in an overall story, this is why season 1 was so good, and what i assume you may see as filler. Its like with early seasons of Rick and Morty where there is a big story episode at the beginning and end, and for the most part they do various unrelated things for the most part in the middle of the season
I’m sorry but Star Wars to me was the episodic films 1-9. After TROS I had lost all faith in SW, it was dead to me. Mando S1/S2 brought back that magical feeling that the originals had and made me love this franchise again. But after Book of Boba Fett, Obi Wan and ESPECIALLY Mando S3 I’m back to wanting this franchise to simply end. After Andor S2 I will be done. I’ll always love Star Wars but as far as new stories coming out I couldn’t care less
Disney Star Wars has just been 90% nostalgia bait and that's been it's biggest problem. Leave the Skywalker era of Star Wars behind and try something big and bold, like what Star Wars did with the KotoR era back in the day. Give us something we've never seen before instead of shoving Mandalorians and Darth Vader down our throat every five seconds.
Nah Grogu being “The Mandalorian” is an awful idea. Even if he is classed as a foundling. He’s literally a tiny yoda species force user. The complete opposite of what a one with that title should be. I’m glad Dins got that title and they didn’t go along with that awful fan theory
@@FullFatVideos he’s not though. He’s more Jedi than mandalorian. A mandalorian is a armour mercanary, blunt hunter and warrior tied to a code. He can’t even speak and is a tiny alien. It would be like having a character called “The Jedi” and it’s just a droid without force powers or a lightsaber. He completely goes against the idea of one.
All Kathleen needs to do is start focusing on the old republic. Like everyone wants that but nope. Imo disney is too proud to take stuff from the past (legends) timeline and want to use their ideas the new republic/sequel trilogy
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I feel like making the mandalorian into a movie (no doubt packed with cameos etc) completely misses the point why people fell in love with S1 in the first place
If they keep it low stakes I think it could work. But nah.. you're right its probably gonna be a cameofest complete with fully AI voiced and generated Luke
I still feel like season 3 regardless of any opinions on its quality felt like the end. Mandalore is reclaimed and Din and Grogu are united. The two characters feel they don’t have much story to tell and can just be supporting characters in other projects. Now we have the ideas of “thrawn can be the big bad, mythosaur etc” but how do those things serve the story of mando dad and grogurt? I see a lot of people talk about the tie ins to the wider universe but I don’t see a lot of talk about the two characters that made the mandalorian a hit. It was just these two characters and some low stakes that made season 1 a hit.
@@CyberSonic-V3.0Fr, and you’re right like they’re trying to set up these shows like it’s the mcu being interconnected but obviously that wasn’t even a big emphasis in the beginning. Like I get it if they want to do one more thing but hype and trust are at an all time low and the only way I see them recovering is making new stories that are quality and not more milking. But let’s be honest that’s a big ass prayer that most of us don’t see coming true
@@Evets_03 I feel they need stuff to stand on its own more. No interconnected stuff just watch this show and toon in for the next season.
It’s basically a follow up to what Jango said with: “I’m just a simple man trying to make his way in the universe.” The Mandalorian takes that concept and explores it with Din who travels planet by planet, claiming his next bounty, and meeting all sorts of people whether it be friends or foes. That was the core of the show to me. I don’t know where any of this is going anymore. I remember in season 3 hating episode 3 because we randomly cut to this other character we only know little about and follow this boring side plot regarding the new republic. I don’t know whose idea it is but I hate the fact that these shows waste runtimes to focus on pointless characters and subplots; hijacking someone else’s story. It’s a scummy move. Book of boba fett and the mandalorian season 3 suffered because of this and it shows.
Grogu actually growing up is what the Din/Grogu dynamic on the Mandalorian DESPERATELY needs. But Grogu is way too marketable just like he is. He is so marketable in stagnation that they couldn’t let Din/Grogu be separated for any meaningful length of time and they immediately reversed the ending of Season 2. There is no way Grogu is ever growing up and getting a meaningful arc, especially in movie form where Disney is banking on that marketability
Exactly we needed him way for some seasons and then Back to see him grow
I am Groot
Yeahhhhh especially since by the time Grogu has grown up, Din would be dead.
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They gotta update that IP.
@Julianjulesr1361 Hollywood is it's own biggest enemy.
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Honestly strongly disagree on the filter point about the Mandalorian. The episodes where nothing bigger happens but we just learn a little bit about everyday life in the starwars universe were fantastic! I loved the series being a view of star wars from a more normal view than any film could do. Which is why I felt the later series lost it a bit and I'm worried about a film
With you there. I was surprised by how well all that worldbuilding worked for me. I always think it's gonna be boring, and then I love it.
They were hit or miss
I think the filler would've been better served in a show that had longer seasons. With a show only 8 episodes a season, should 3-4 of those episodes really have little or nothing to do with the overall plot?
Agreed! In season 1 I loved the classic "A Team" style of writing. Just a bounty hunter living life learning to help
These are not mutually exclusive concepts. If the show is done well, then the world building can absolutely be part of the story. Look at Andor. There was very little filler there, everything was building towards the ending, and yet I feel like I learned more about everyday life in the SW universe in that one show than I've learned since the original trilogy.
The real Mandalorian was inside you all along.
eeeew
Maybe the real Mandalorian was the friends we made along the the way
Oh God yes, I can feel The Mandalorian coming inside me. ☺
You mean season one?
No, you can't cut the spider cave scene without any loss of narrative. That scene is a part of Grogu's development, as he learns to have sympathy for that frog lady and her offspring, plus it establishes the relationship between Din Djarin and the Starfighter Captain, and of course deepening the relationship between Grogu and Din. It might seem like a pointless diversion, but it has it's place.
You could segue these moments into another episode, doesn’t justify the runtime and is a complete side quest. Not without it’s fun but it pads out the season
@@FullFatVideos Oh yeah you could move all that character development to another episode, but my point is what that episode gives the characters is some time to interact. Whether it's in the spider cave or cruising around in the Razorcrest, they still need to spend that time. The episode isn't wasted.
0:26 "Missed opportunity to say "THE MANDALORIAN AND THE MANDALORIAN 🗣🗣" after that lol
After Andor, Lucasfilm should offer Tony Gilroy whatever he wants for another movie. People generally liked Rogue One. Another movie like that could be cool. The Mandalorian movie has the potential to be good but given that quality of the show recently, I doubt it will live up to said potential.
9:26 Come on pal, we don't need to be so kind after all the mistakes that have been made so far: Dave CAN'T direct live action and I think, by all means, let him write his upcoming film but get somebody else to direct it. He's only going to end up embarrassing himself and I'm sure none of us want that.
Honestly? Hard agree. The dude just isn't cut out for live-action.
Disney took one look at the merch sales and went let’s milk it some more!
If it gets made, it gets made. I'll reserve all judgment until I see a trailer. Same thing with the Rey movie.
If
*The movie ends triumphantly with Grogu standing tall as an adult, we cut to a spoiler reveal that the movie is actually titled "The Mandalorian and Din". Star Wars is good again.*
But there's no chance of that, right? It will just be another shitty cynical cash grab by a company that has no need of grabbing any more cash. It'll look worse than the TV show and Favreau continues to have a finger stuck up there because he can see the way this is all going. Fool me once, fool me twice, fool me thrice, but they won't get me again.
Movies used to have to deal with making their money back. Then they had to deal with being expected to launch a trilogy. Now they are expected to launch a cinematic universe and hit a billion at the box office
Yeah. Force Awakens ruined it for the franchise, ironically. It making more than $2 Billion raised the minimum floor for a Star War. I fully believe they intended the Star Wars Story in-between movies to be lower-stakes (both plot and expected box office), but after $2B, anything less than $1.5B would be seen as a massive failure. That's why they had to go back and completely retool Rogue One. The original version, while I'm sure it was more cohesive and maybe even a better movie, was clearly not going to make $2B or even $1B, so they had to Vader it up and bump everything up to a more typical Star War. They've been chasing $2 Billion ever since, and it'll never achieve that level again unless it lies fallow for another fifteen years. I think going forward, $900 Million is going to be the ceiling for a Star Wars film, with $700 Million being what they will have to settle on as being a hit.
The Mandalorian isn’t just Grogu
The Mandalorian is every single character besides Pedro Pascal
Gus Fring in a Mandalorian suit? Mandalorian. Bo Katan? Obviously. The sheriff character? Just wait.
The Doctor Who cameo without warning, I'm crying
The first season particularly eps 1-3,7-8 the actual ones that have a through line story, Have a small simple charm, I rewatch quite often, And I’ve found the reason why is because it’s entirely its own corner of the Star Wars universe, that’s why Andor I love so much, it’s completely different and focuses has confidence to be its own thing without relying on big names. Mando 2 I like but ages worse as the days go by, it should never have been tied in so heavily with Falonis world, cause it now makes you have to watch a bunch of other shows and it’s a spider web of disasterous proportions.
I do believe bringing Luke in he had every right, as the only legacy character cause he’s the only Jedi around (Ahsoka died in rebels💀)… but they shit the bed, they should’ve announced a movie centred on mando and grogu while Luke was training him, could be a empire strikes back parallel story, seeing mando and grogu in their own, amazing. Anyway the Ahsoka show was a perfect example that putting in familiar faces with zero substance to get a temporary high will age like poo, that show is terrible. Wooden acting, terrible writing and directing. This mando movie shouldn’t have absolutely no connection to any of what Faloni is doing imo, be it’s own thing
then when it’s time for mando to join we can see what he’s up to in the Faloni avengers style movie, I pretty much described what the MCU phase 1-3 did so well and it was creating separate stand alone films and the filmmakers don’t bog the story down in world building. That’s why I’ll sour if in andor 2 there’s more familiar characters and it loses its substance, that’s what Faloni would do if he took over andor, bunch of people we recognise who have zero character development and look pew pew action same old bullshit
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In the same way that Han Solo is essentially Chewbacca’s dog in terms of lifespans, Din is more like Grogu’s gerbil.
I can't wait for the movie to be about some secondary character who is actually thr main protagonist
The one thing I have to strongly disagree on is the idea that seasons 1-2 had a filler problem. I think the show was often at its best when working in a more episodic fashion with relatively self-contained Adventure Of The Week type episodes. That was part of what made it feel so much like the classic western serials that inspired Star Wars to begin with. In fact I think moving to a more serialized, over arching narrative has actually been the shows biggest weakness in season 3. It couldn't deliver on the larger retaking Mandalore/fighting Moff Gideon plot because it's a show that shines when it's doing smaller scale, more personal stories.
The classic saying of "Cautiously Optimistic "comes to mind when I think about this movie. I don't get why it needs to exist, to be honest it almost sounds like it's just going to be the show compacted, but maybe there will be some essential stuff, too. And it's a shame that The Mandalorian was killed as the sleeper name of Grogu because of that one episode of Book of Boba Fett referring to Din as The Mandalorian. They should probably just rename this series The Mandalorians because then we can explore what it means to be one from the many different angles this show has taken us anyway. But whatever, can't have anything nice anymore.
The most hyped stuff in Star Wars that I care about is animated anyway. Animated Star Wars has been going strong since 2008 (or really 2003 but I'm more focused on Lucasfilm Animation than outsourced stuff), and say what you will about Resistance, but when you can just watch it instead of going week to week, it's a pretty decent show. The Bad Batch has been one of my favorite things in Star Wars as of late, Tales of the Jedi promises to be even better as it goes on with more diverse characters taking the focus over Ahsoka (I sure hope that's the case anyway), and while not made by Lucasfilm Animation specifically, Young Jedi Adventures is weirdly enjoyable despite being a preschooler show, and neither am I in that demographic or know anyone that would be in that demographic. And let's not forget Star Wars Visions, which while not canon has given us some great stories, too. Everyone complained how the Ahsoka series wasn't like Andor, but I don't want everything to be like Andor, and nor do I want everything to be live action either because if it weren't for tying into all the Mando-Verse stuff, I think Ahsoka would have been even better (I quite enjoyed it as is, but still) if it were animated because of how much it tied into Rebels' open ended Finale. The Bad Batch ends with this upcoming Season, and I'm more excited for not only it, but whatever may come after it than more of the Mando-Verse shows. That doesn't mean I think they're bad, I like that they pull from everything and make a more cohesive world than the Sequels, but animation, while taking more time, has just given me the stories I'm more interested in, stories I didn't even know I wanted, they can be a bit more liberal with the physics and it not look weird, and the characters and worlds can be more fantastical than you'd ever see in live action (just as an example, the Pykes are terrible in live action but are great in animation). You couldn't get away with Quick-Draw Quasar in live action, and we know this because it happened back in Attack of the Clones, but in Bad Batch, 2 seconds of this racecar driver with a battle droid head on a protocol droid body gives me the giggles and I love him.
And I'm sure that Disney's hesitant to greenlight any Star Wars animated movies, but it's been over 15 years since the Clone Wars movie that never should have been a movie, let's actually make a dedicated Star Wars movie that can only be animated and get more people interested in this side of Star Wars that way than ripping characters from animation and putting them in live action shows. Do it the other way and make an essential piece of the Mando-Verse animated just to mess with people. Or continue the Solo plot thread with an animated story focusing on Maul and Qi'ra because I know people want more, but I don't know how well that's going to translate in live action because of how much dubbing needs to be done for Ray Park, and Maul clearly works better in animation anyway. There's always comics and books, but that's just even more niche stuff, animation is the best thing for people that don't want to read to see stories play out, and it's flexible enough to allow for any story to be put on screen that live action just can't, or at least would be too prohibitively expensive with photoreal CGI. More love for Star Wars animation from the general public please!
Not going to lie, grogu should have just stayed with Luke. Season 2 perfectly tied up his story with djin and season 3 should have been djin becoming mandolore. Grogu isn’t a character but a prop. It doesn’t help that djin also isn’t much of a character either but that could have changed.
When Season 2 ended, I figured Grogu would remain on the show but in a separate storyline from Din. Din would be taking back Mandolore alongside Bo-Katan and Grogu would be simultaneously training with the new Jedi Order & maybe towards the end of the season they get reunited. I never imagined they would undo the ending of Season 2 before Season 3 even began. They really don’t want us to take this story seriously
Grogu merch sold a ton, that is exactly why they undid the ending of S2 so quickly
@@joh2434 They didn't have to do that. Grogu could have been featured in every episode of S3 without Din/Grogu being reunited
If anything, this potentially upcoming film is the point where the two of them should've been reunited, having completed their own stories and become older and wiser people, it would've been the perfect opportunity for a moving and powerful moment in their story
Great video❤
Thank you!!
Maybe that Star Wars magic, was the friends we made along the way.
The obvious answer will be that they will do the worst thing with it, but try to sell it as the best thing.
Wrong “its”, mate. You’ve written “Star Wars is on it is knees”
whoops! cheers
@@FullFatVideos no bother 👍
@@FullFatVideos Concur, it's "its". It's is short for "it is" . I know, English is confusing, it sucks for all of us lol
Edit: Dang that was fast, good job
@@WobblesandBean"I concur" shut up lil bro
0:19 - 0:35
The whole thing is beyond played out. Originally, Boba Fett was a ruthless bounty hunter, even though he didn’t pose much of a threat to Luke. Not knowing much about him, made the universe feel big. KOTOR expanded on Mandalorians and they come across as a different culture there, and actually feel warlike, who regarded lives as disposable.
Then came Filoni and they went from lame to lamer. Then they decided to make the posterboy of Mandalorians a fairly sensitive dad guy who is mostly saved by plot armor and invincible Beskar armor. The lore became pretty dumb and barren. There is just the armor-smith lady and a handful of often repeated phrases and concepts. I guess going fishing in real life is more detailled and varied than bounty hunting. Bounty Hunters should have inventive technology, “best practices”, connections, perhaps profession-rules and so on.
So instead of a “exception of the rule” with the stoic and brutal warrior who bonds with a child, Din Djarin is more of a “nice guy” and he’s so prominent and on the poster that his “the way” is now the typical. Another adventure with a child sounds incredibly boring and unexciting. Grogu as more than a temporary mcguffin sounds terrible. When they seriously now introduce several Jedi-Mandalorians, and one Yoda-Jedi-Mandalorian. I just cringe. It’s very unfortunate development of a once amazing franchise. This has nothing anymore that made the universe so great back then.
IMO we were in for a rough ride the minute Disney gave Mando an episode of Boba Fett's show so he could reunite with Grogu. It displays Disney's inability to prioritize (seeing as they have to plug another character's show in Boba Fett's) and they're incapable of being content with a complete story arc (Din learning to let go of the child he's been raising for 2 years).
When this was announced my immediate thought was 'meh I'll watch it on D+' The only SW movies I've deliberately not seen in the cinema are the TCW movie and Solo.
Sad state of affairs when this is essentially they’re next force awakens in terms of reigniting the audience for a slew of films
Any excuse for a David Mitchel rant is always a pleasure
Not trying to pester you here but will the Andor video ever happen? Or are you waiting for season 2?
When I get round to watching it 😂
@@FullFatVideos Ohhhhhh. In that case I highly recommend it, and hope the channel is doing better than it was last summer
Because Papa Iger said “stop fucking around lucasfilm, give me some fucking product we can make money off, it’s been forever”
Kath: “the most recent movie announcements are still years away and we’re about to shoot Mando season 4”
Iger: “and it’s now a movie. People love baby Yoda. get Fav to reverse engineer the story to make it into a fun summer blockbuster. It’s coming out next year”
End of fucking story
1:25 why did she turn around like that? 😂
0:23 *I didn’t know you were a Peep Show fan.* 😃😃😃😃😃
1:10 The Gareth Edwards cut of Rogue One
If this movie isnt the critical and commercial hit that it needs to be, Star Wars might never recover
It already can't recover. I don't see this passing a billion if it gets released.
Honestly, I know it's not a popular opinion, but I think if any Star Wars movie needs to be next it NEEDS to be the Rey movie. The sooner we rip off the bandaid and start fresh in a new era with a new Jedi order where anything can happen the better...
But with this move they've probably doomed the Rey movie if it goes wrong.
They really screwed up such an easy way to age Grogu all for the sake of a "gotcha" in the first season. If hes 50, he should be around 5ish human years. Young adult around 180 tp 190 years old. 900 for Yoda would be 90 for us. Simple math, but now he cant even say words.
I fear Grogu will continue to be a victim of his own popularity. Allowing him to talk would change the status quo. It would be a risk. There would be no going back. This is the one new character everyone knows about and likes, and he’s not tied to an actor. They aren’t going to CHANGE him.
I think grogu's just traumatized into not speaking after order 66
The Din and Baby Yoda should be Doctor Who companions and I'm only 75% joking when I say that.
Making the protagonist of the unique, grounded, western/samurai inspired story the Iron Man of the Star Wars universe is the most out of touch, mind-numbingly stupid decision I’ve ever seen from Lucasfilm, it’s so transparently desperate and against Din’s entire concept as a character that they should be ashamed.
I honestly am mixed whenever TV shows make movies
I want them to do something contemplative and existential with this movie, but I'm getting more and more worried the inherent quality of the first two seasons was a fluke, born about by Filoni having proved himself with animated stuff but still having the freedom to do something new. 'Baby Yoda' is part of the brand now, which means he'll always be a cute and marketable baby, except for maybe a tacked on epilogue to some future movie or show, or possibly a comic if we're talking a decade+ later.
Well I have been giving SW another chance and another for to long. The franchise just seems to be going a direction Im not enjoying. Mando S3 was my final straw and just like Ahsoka Im taking a hard pass on all of this. TBB S3 and Andor S2 are most likely my GOTG 3s of SW, where once that's done so am I with this franchise, while still remebering the stuff that was enjoyable.
I know what you mean. if it wasn't for Percy Jackson getting renewed, I probably would have canceled my Disney Plus subscription after Bad Batch S3. Because Star Wars has been doing a terrible job at giving me reasons to stick around.
Disney talking to Fans of Star Wars
Disney: I won't Questions or Answers from the likes of you
Fans: Who's the blame here Every decision you have made Have led us from bad to worse
The only way for this to do well is if Disney drops that "Grogu" shit already and renames the movie to Mando and Baby Yoda.
Star Wars is an endless canvas on which anyone could paint a masterpiece (or something great) but everyone just keeps adding more strokes onto existing art.
New time period, new characters, new stakes. Tell a new space opera! Stick within the parameters of what Star Wars "is" but break free of all the oppresive canon.
I really thought they were gonna make a bunch of interconnected shows that span 1000 years with Grogu connecting them all but no one's got the chops to achitect something that cool. Apparently.
Why would I psy to see a TV show in theatre? I barely go there to see movies anymore. I'll wait.
100% agree about the volume and needing to bring Greg Frasier or at least someone who is experienced with the volume onto this. My worry is that if the script isn’t good or genuine that he won’t sign on to it.
In this show Grogu definitely needs to age up and do more, as a co-lead I dont want to sit through Grogu doing cute baby-ish things, we had the show for that. I want this to be a passing of the torch movie since those movies are very emotional for me and its why I love Andor so much, please do more with these characters and dont be a disappointment.
LucasArts was an unsung hero here in keeping the brand in public memory with games (of varying qualities) coming out pretty much every year. Even if not that many people played it, there was always some cool shit coming out just around the corner and they usually innovated somewhere and weren't a reskin (notable exception star wars II: -The Age of Kings- galactic battlegrounds). If they retire the band completely for several years, they'll end up being like the world of darkness after CCP held the IP and have to rebuild from the brand wilderness, starting with getting people under 30 to show up
Star Wars should make a character that can rocket jump
That'd be cool I think
You can never go wrong with rocket jumping
Apple needs to own Star Wars.
How did we get this before the church on ruby road review?! Or did he say he’s not doing it?
I could still do it I just thought it was a little too late!
@@FullFatVideos are you kidding Bruv!? I’ve been checking every couple of days waiting! 😅
I always enjoy your videos. Loved this one too, spot on!
The Andor episode... It isn't coming, is it?...
It is!
It is way too soon to kill off Din, he hasn't trained grogu at all yet
The logic of Grogu being the title Mandalorian aside, 'The Mandalorian and Grogu' is such a clunky name. 'The Mandalorians' would have been more fitting as a title imo.
FullFat, I'm still mad at you for not watching Andor. You made a video about litterally every other Star War, except the best one.
I’ve made videos on attack of the clones?
@@FullFatVideosyep. You gave the play by play on the 3vDooku fight.
Look, I get that you cut yourself off from the force because of the utter lifeless mediocrity of so many things they've done lately... But Andor is different, it's not like other Disney Star Wars. Seriously it's like Tony Gilroy just snuck into the studio and made the show before any of the executives could even tell him to fill it with cameos and make the stormtroopers useless. It's brilliant and made my cold & jaded heart feel things.
But you're the chosen one. You have the gift to take the things people love & show them a whole new reason to appreciate them even more. You're one of the GOATs mate, and Andor is worthy.
@@Keyatzin I can't believe I came so close to skipping Andor after the disaster that was Kenobi. I figured if getting actual Obi-Wan back wasn't enough, then nothing ever would be - especially the backstory of some guy who already died in the movies and didn't leave much of an impression. But then I gave it a try because I was at a loose end, and it was honestly incredible. Not just good Star Wars, but great TV full stop.
I would have been OK if the Mandalorian had stayed a serial TV series with only a small focus, and a slowly developing plot
The algorithm doesn't show me when you release new videos. It seems like disney is choking on your channel
That’s a shame! Maybe have the notification bell on?
@@FullFatVideos Yup and I am subscribed. I watched your vids since you did that breakdown of Captain America, and have consistently recieved notifications. Its been too quiet the past few months.
Them making this film isn't meant to be a desperate attempt to get you back into star wars, it's meant to try and recuperate some of the budget spent on the mandalorian because *steeaming services don't make money*
every time I get reminded FullFat likes peep show is a happy day for the britland nerds. If you know, you know :)
Make Grogu the main character of Star Wars forever (seeing as he can live for 100s of years) and have the story take place in order and focus on new threats and stories.
Enough of this bouncing all over the place storytelling that they've been doing since the begining with characters that we know are either going to die or just go away and never be seen again.
Why does every main character need to be some boring human when you can have an alien msin character that could live for hundreds of years, travel the galaxy making new friends and then have to let them go as he will outlive them: always running and never looking back because he dare not out of fear: and fear leads to the Dark Side.
Still waiting for a full fat video on Andor :p
I loved seasons 1 and 2 of the mandalorian and season 3 was ok and I miss old Star Wars!😭
Rise of Skywalker killed my future interest in Star Wars.
yeah even years on its stench is smelt
Din can die, only if he has a child that Grogu has to look after
Ypu know they're going to fuck this up spectacularly.
Have you ever thought about doing a video on Star Wars Visions?
When are you going to cover andor
For those of you tired of Disney Star Wars, I invite you to join me in enjoying Legends.
They pulled a 180. Panicking and turning their movie ideas into overlong shows now to panicking and turning their shows into rushed movies
My heart shatters for people who still have faith in Star Wars while Kennedy and her minions are still there...
It definitely feels like they're going the safe route and want a safe film in the theaters first before they move onto things that might be more risky. Honestly though Tony Gilroy is the one making the best Star Wars films and series in the Disney era and I honestly feel they should go back to 5 seasons Gilroy originally wanted with Andor. Idk I just don't feel too excited with Lucasfilm putting more and more of their baskets into the "Filoniverse" when it favors fan service over story.
Right!
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Remember when you were “done with Star Wars”? Man alive these youtubers are nothing but grifters
I haven’t watched andor or mando s3 the bad batch tales from the empire or the first eps of the acolyte so yeah I think I have been very much done. I only make videos about the older stuff which is different or speculation videos when I think it’s interesting.
This movie is probebly the same thing as the previusly anounced mandoverse movie
no, thats the filoni team up movie
I love Star Wars. However i don't trust Disney to do anything valuable with it
We can't have nothing nice anymore
Is it weird I want the Razor Crest back?
Me too. I have the Lego version which is pretty sweet to have around
Its*
Edit: yay
This movie has a lot of potential to be good, but its almost definitely going to tank miserably and be terrible. Ill not watch it until i can find it for free somewhere
At this point I just do not care about the "mandoverse" side of star wars content. Book of boba fett was a mess with some ideas I thought were okay, mamdo season 3 was awful and Ahsoka was such a bore I couldn't finish it. I'll keep an eye out for Andor and the animated shows, but the main stuff is not for me anymore. Stixking to the high republic and the comics for now, they rule telling new good stories.
In my opinion it can’t be just Jon Favereau . He needs Filoni’s Star Wars show experience just as much as Dave needs Favereau’s live action directing experience. After Mando S1, Disney put so many projects onto both of them and the projects suffered. Eventually, we got Boba Fett with minimal Filoni input, and Ahsoka with little Faverau involvement, and both were worse for it… A creator should never be trapped in one medium, and Filoni has been doing Star Wars for almost 20 years now, but it is clear that his work with Animation is better than his attempts at live action, and I think the Bad Batch premiere shows that.
SPOILERS!!
It also shows just how trapped all Star Wars projects are right now by having to world build backwards to prop up The Rise of Skywalker and the dumb decisions that were made there regarding the return of Palpatine…
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It really sets the tone that he starts the video off by whining that the title doesnt line up with his fan theory 😂😂😂 And filler? This isnt anime or any kind of adaptation, what hes describing is just a normal tv show episode. We used to get 24 a season but he thinks 8 is too much? And what a basic movie plot. Oh Grogu grows up and Mando dies? Not a creative bone in his body.
the number of episodes don't make something filler lmao
@@FullFatVideos never said it did.
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Grogu should’ve not come back. Mando S3 should’ve been about uniting roamin and different Mandos with Din alongside Bo getting them to be one once more. The show is more than just Grogu
If Star Wars is on it's knees, then why have they done a fan-favourite move and are making a Rey sequel? It's madness.
You’d have to be living under a rock to ignore the difference in apathy now to the 2015 launch of TFA
@@FullFatVideos Just so I'm a little clear, that was my point. It seems that the execs in charge and literally zero understanding of what will make Star Wars work both as a cultural phenomenon like it used to be, and give fans new stuff to chew on. The apathy I feel towards Star Wars is frankly insane, considering how much I hyped up TFA.
Good points overall, but I disagree very strongly about Mangold’s movie sounding boring, and “Who asked for this?” is a question that always really annoys me. The best pieces of media are never the things people are asking for; they’re the things that the creators are passionate to make and release regardless of the audience poll popularity of the idea - see Andor.
Whilst I do agree, I hate going back to the start for origins especially when there’s really no pressing questions that need answered. And Mangold hasn’t necessarily made this out of pure passion, it’s a franchise deal
Idk, after the last 19 or so announced Star Wars films got cancelled I somewhat doubt this will ever be a thing. God I’d love to know what dirt KK has on Disney execs.
I feel like this is the first one announced since the sequels that actually has a concrete chance of getting made. Favreau will churn it out and has no problem working with Disney
I'm 16 years old and I can tell you my generation don't care about rey or the sequel trilogy none my friends ever talked about any of the sequels so there won't be a resurgence for that crap
Like fire fly film I took break
To be honest as log as the Rey movies do not have Reylo in them I will watch them.
The Reylo stuff was one of the few things I liked. I think it kills it not having Ben Solo around for the future
I agree that the movie feels like a desperate financial decision more then a creative choice, but I disagree with a few of your points. Grogu being the mandolorian in the title is not accurate. Sure Grogu will probably become a mando at some point, probably in the movie or season 4, but Dinn is still THE mandolorian. Dinn who brought people back to mandalore. Another thing I disagree with is your no more filler as a pro. This is because Mandolorian is at its best when he is just hunting random bountys and doing quests that arent super entrenched in an overall story, this is why season 1 was so good, and what i assume you may see as filler. Its like with early seasons of Rick and Morty where there is a big story episode at the beginning and end, and for the most part they do various unrelated things for the most part in the middle of the season
I’m sorry but Star Wars to me was the episodic films 1-9. After TROS I had lost all faith in SW, it was dead to me. Mando S1/S2 brought back that magical feeling that the originals had and made me love this franchise again. But after Book of Boba Fett, Obi Wan and ESPECIALLY Mando S3 I’m back to wanting this franchise to simply end. After Andor S2 I will be done. I’ll always love Star Wars but as far as new stories coming out I couldn’t care less
Disney Star Wars has just been 90% nostalgia bait and that's been it's biggest problem. Leave the Skywalker era of Star Wars behind and try something big and bold, like what Star Wars did with the KotoR era back in the day. Give us something we've never seen before instead of shoving Mandalorians and Darth Vader down our throat every five seconds.
Nah Grogu being “The Mandalorian” is an awful idea. Even if he is classed as a foundling. He’s literally a tiny yoda species force user. The complete opposite of what a one with that title should be. I’m glad Dins got that title and they didn’t go along with that awful fan theory
What do you mean the opposite, he’s literally a Mandalorian
@@FullFatVideos he’s not though. He’s more Jedi than mandalorian. A mandalorian is a armour mercanary, blunt hunter and warrior tied to a code. He can’t even speak and is a tiny alien.
It would be like having a character called “The Jedi” and it’s just a droid without force powers or a lightsaber. He completely goes against the idea of one.
All Kathleen needs to do is start focusing on the old republic. Like everyone wants that but nope. Imo disney is too proud to take stuff from the past (legends) timeline and want to use their ideas the new republic/sequel trilogy