You have to be taking the piss mate . BBC was the old boys club . Full of private school tossers that looked down on the lesser classes . As they liked to put it . Middle class that forgot where they came from eating spam sandwiches to pay off all the debt they were in just to keep up with the joneses . And ones upper classes . False as f, , k .
I have motorfair 87 on a vhs tape which also has Janet Ellis hosting. Anyone know if there’s another copy on the internet somewhere? If not I’ll try to get some hardware to encode it.
@@kamrankhan-lj1ng noel edmons , he was ok and I loved him on radio 1 but I get the impression he spent more time in the bathroom making himself looking perfect . Where as Chris was more of a bloke .
Well, the answer is, Honda's 4 wheel steering on their Prelude did go the distance. My friend had one identical to the one you see at the end of the video, only J reg, and the 4 wheel steering was working fine and had not had any large issues in its life. Just usual wear and tear items.
Agreed. I put substantial mileages on two 4WS Honda Preludes, neither of which was particularly new when I bought them, one had 180,000 miles on it and never had any steering issues.
I recorded this off the telly at the time (12 years old) and probably watched it about half a dozen times. Janet Ellis was removed from Blue Peter two years earlier once Biddy Baxter found out that she was (shock horror!) an unwed mother.
Janet Ellis would sure look good as frog in smokey and the bandit........ Sure would love to jump her bones lol as burt Reynolds said to frog in bandit ❤
I have to say I think the Calibra still looks pretty sleek even after 21 years! It was kind of like the Audi TT of its day. Based on an ordinary family car, not that thrilling to drive, but ultra modern styling. Not so tempted by the Lada Samara though. Or even the Discovery!
Cor to have one now red top in good nick. I wish i had a garage my dream everyday cars right now would be current shape st fiesta and a 16 plate tt coupe petrol both in safe metallic grey and of the period. Both discontinued ir soon to be both iconic names. Sadly after my pcp is up on my diesel a4 i need a dreary hybrid with a cvt.
Those rover engines gaskets aside were nippy for the time. In the 1996 new shape 214 it could pull 10ish seconds to 60 in a car that felt substantial. Had to run one for a few months when i was in a bad spot in 06 was old p reg thing the alan partridge style but it shifted.
"it was a try hard cavalier with no cred and even less performance" What it was underneath and how little 'street cred' it had has nothing to do with how the car looks. I don't like most Vauxhalls either, especially of that era but the Calibra was a very good looking car, especially for its time and it has aged pretty well. Not a car I would ever have thought of owning, but I give credit where its due.
It does. A little dated, but good. The Calibra was actually made to hit a price point - the whole point of it was Cavalier man (who'd often drive a company car) could choose that instead with it only costing a little more. Being critical of it because it wasn't a competitor to a "serious" sports car is missing the point somewhat. Back then a Vauxhall was maybe 2/3rd the price of an equivalent BMW, Merc, Rover, Alfa etc, so the Calibra was something of a bargain. The V6 and Turbo variants were decently fast cars and good value for what you got. Quite popular with middle management company car drivers who'd been funded for a Senator or Granada, but had too much of a sense of humour to actually drive one...
The Stig's English cousin yeah, but it would probably have put it on a level with the premium cars. It did well as it was barely any more pricey than the cavalier.
Unfortunately rover decided to fit k series engines instead of the Honda realible engines, which they did with the 216.. This car was way ahead of the competition, the next 400 series did not cause the same impact
Always watched the Motorfair Show every year as a wee boy and wanted so much to go to London to see it. Sadly I never did. Maybe one day it'll be back. But that Sierra Minko was awesome shame it never survived as dannyisso said. Would have been pne hell of a fast retro rocket.....
That Sierra IS still on the road. The reg number is E156XUB and not the G260NRA that is on film. That reg belonged to a Peugeot 205GTi. I think the 'G' reg was used simply to make the Sierra look newer than it was!
The music theme at beginning of the film has been haunting my mind for many years. Does anyone know who its by and if i can buy it today as a doenload or CD
nelly6819 hahahaha "haunting your mind"?? Some generic pish music from a crap obscure motoring show from the 80s? Fuck me mate give your head a wobble. Stop sniffing the glue!
@@colinjohnston8519 He actually said "haunting my mind". Suggestion: Spend a little less time mocking people and more time improving your reading skills.
Hey Nelly, its a production track called "Go For It" by a guy called Murray Munro. He wrote many tracks for tv & film in the 80s and 90s. Its on this album: www.discogs.com/chart-show/release/11113381
Yep. I've driven a few over the years. An amazing engine, certainly for it's time. Tarnished by the "oh they blow the head gasket" reputation. Most people who say that, don't even know what a head gasket is. A looked after K-series is a light, powerful and reliable! little engine that was way ahead of its time. Nowadays I pootle around in a boring Astra, with a 1.4 petrol engine. That makes around 100bhp. Rover were doing that with a 1.4 in 1989...
I agree. I had a brand new 214 Si on loan in mid 1990. 4 valves per cylinder was not the norm back then. It was revvy and refined. Ford had nothing to touch it at the time. I seem to recall that Rover later created a 105 bhp variant of the 1.4 K-Series by fitting multi-point injection in place of the throttle body injection used on the 90 bhp models.
I think it was mostly the 1.8 versions that suffered the head gasket problems, but that was enough to tarnish the reputation of the whole range. They were miles ahead of anything Ford, VW, Vauxhall etc. were offering at the time.
+soundseeker63 - undoubtedly true. Ford's CVH engine was ghastly. The only maker offering something similar in terms of technology, economy and power was Nissan with the SR20 series of two litre engines.
The cavalier I owned in the mid 90s was a total heap of unreliable garbage and the Rover 214 was basically a rover badge stuck on a Honda which was a pretty good car when I owned one back then.
The reg on the Sierra is a little weird. G260 NRA. Literally just done a swift check online to see if it's still kicking about and it shows up as a red Peugeot 205, registered 8th August 1989. Tax expired 17th March 1997.
Lmo at that sierra at the start! cool indeed but it aint on the vdla site any more which could means its been scrapped hahah someone probably lost control of it!
No it hasn't. The G260NRA reg number belonged to a Peugeot 205GTi. Try E156XUB for the Sierra. The Sierra still has current tax (October 18) and MOT (April 19).
I'm a Ford man. Chevrolet is a third class car manufacturer. Took a bailout from the American government stifling the American taxpayer. Ford never did that to the taxpayers like Chevrolet did. It makes a big difference to me.
I've never understood the hillbilly obsession of claiming to be a fan of a fucking corporation. Then bragging about it as if it somehow makes you a better person than the next.
Ohhh yes England is soo great these days...no Motorfair- No NEC International Motorshow.....if you are a car crazy kid living in UK its rubbish these days
Was a combination of mismanagement and car TV shows and journalist idiots that kept bringing up the old British Leyland failures over and over until the general public believed all the vehicles were rubbish. They were no worse than equivalent Fords and Vauxhalls at the time. For example anyone would by a Ford Orion over something like that Rover baffles me - they were poorly made, and dull as used dishwater. Guess only redeeming feature was when they broke down, the parts were cheap :-) - That 214 shown in the vid was actually pretty decent, I had the 214SLi. The comment about the solidity and quality feel were spot on - compared to my old Montego it did feel a class apart.
K series engines with the injection are usually pretty unreliable. The Head gaskets go. Think the 8valve (which is very rare) is ok though on that front. 214S Only trouble is you get less power, 13'' wheels, a manual choke and no PAS Sacrifices.. OUCH!
lol @6:11..smooth move Noel.. Cars from this era were utterly horrific..a real low point in car design..the 'jelly mould' years...We British lost our way and never, ever got it back..The appalling lack of brand identity, bland styling and poor build quality sealed our fate...Rover?? a joke..the poor man's Jag but with no style, quality, performance, prestige or resale value.. there were literally only a handful of cars that looked good in this entire decade.
simon lloyd that would be your opinion and not worth a shit. I loved the 80s, it was the decade that determined how cars today still look like, so no not a low point at all. British car industry lost its way in the 70s, the 80s was a comeback but bmw fucked river a decade later because they didn't want us competing. No not a poor man's jag by 1989, just a brand name for the affordable cars instead of Austin. You really don't know much about what you talking about eh?
This was 1989 tbh this was the turn if the decade these were early 90s cars i grew up with as a kid. The jag xj was stunning so was the calibra renault laguna was a good looking car too conpared to the dire 21. Some terrible vehicles on display though that 626 must have been near the end of its shape that looks early 80s garbage. The mid 90s got some individuality back when things like the tigra came out omega 406 coupe etc where the late 80s early 90s you had the jelly mould specials. Cavalier 405 rover 800 etc.
The Calibra was genuinely a very pretty car.
The Calibra design was definitely ahead of its time for 1989.
Was thinking the same, hardly looks dated at all 30 years later - but a very rare sight on the roads now
Yes the 4x4 turbo was quick as well 👍
I had such a thing for Janet 💕
Janet Ellis is hotter than hell.
Well she ain't hot anymore
Correct
Uncle Jane really annoying voice
She was back then!
Back when the BBC had class and intelligence!
You have to be taking the piss mate . BBC was the old boys club . Full of private school tossers that looked down on the lesser classes . As they liked to put it . Middle class that forgot where they came from eating spam sandwiches to pay off all the debt they were in just to keep up with the joneses . And ones upper classes . False as f, , k .
Lord Low Grade Got None Of That
Well the tastiest thing on show was Janet Ellis 🤤🤤🤤
are you fucking serious??
Too right, can't concentrate on a Rover 200 when Janet Ellis is in front of it. Or indeed anything else really!
Pure filth mate
rumour was she went like a cavalier GSI
Damn right! Can see where Sophie Ellis-Bexter got her good looks from!
I had a Rover Sprint, the only problem was Janet Ellis not in the passenger seat
Great seeing the old Rovers. My dad used to work at the Longbridge plant.
so technically, he's a criminal.
Paul Potter.. hardly anything to be fu*king proud of .. utter shit they made
Great shame. Government should saved it.
I'm enjoying this since I went to this show
Could imagine Alan Partridge appearing on a segment on this .
I have motorfair 87 on a vhs tape which also has Janet Ellis hosting. Anyone know if there’s another copy on the internet somewhere? If not I’ll try to get some hardware to encode it.
Janet Ellis, Sophie Ellis-Bextor mom and it shows
Remember the scandal when she was pregnant?
Chris goffey . Proper bloke .
Noel Edmonds ..... Even more a proper bloke.
@@kamrankhan-lj1ng noel edmons , he was ok and I loved him on radio 1 but I get the impression he spent more time in the bathroom making himself looking perfect . Where as Chris was more of a bloke .
Goffey had a voice that was thick yet high pitched at the same time. Quite irritating to the ears.
Well, the answer is, Honda's 4 wheel steering on their Prelude did go the distance. My friend had one identical to the one you see at the end of the video, only J reg, and the 4 wheel steering was working fine and had not had any large issues in its life. Just usual wear and tear items.
Agreed. I put substantial mileages on two 4WS Honda Preludes, neither of which was particularly new when I bought them, one had 180,000 miles on it and never had any steering issues.
I recorded this off the telly at the time (12 years old) and probably watched it about half a dozen times.
Janet Ellis was removed from Blue Peter two years earlier once Biddy Baxter found out that she was (shock horror!) an unwed mother.
Janet is so gorgeous 😘
If you want to see more of Janet Ellis watch her on 'HERE SHE IS' on the link: th-cam.com/video/DlmLEcoWbqQ/w-d-xo.html
Janet Ellis would sure look good as frog in smokey and the bandit........ Sure would love to jump her bones lol as burt Reynolds said to frog in bandit ❤
Alot of these cars are now in the scrapper or been recycled as bin cans lol
Wasn’t this the era of the sweaty gussets and tights over knickers 🤔
I think Janet Ellis was in a few wet dreams of mine.
I have to say I think the Calibra still looks pretty sleek even after 21 years! It was kind of like the Audi TT of its day. Based on an ordinary family car, not that thrilling to drive, but ultra modern styling. Not so tempted by the Lada Samara though. Or even the Discovery!
soundseeker63 I agree. an I'm American!! But owned probably more European cars than you.. not trying to be an ass.. But Alfa Romeo is my brand...
@@davidsherrick2577 i am replying to your comment after 1 year.. I doubt soundseeker read yours after 9 years ..jeez
Agree the calibra still looks pretty good
An Audi TT but for men
Cor to have one now red top in good nick. I wish i had a garage my dream everyday cars right now would be current shape st fiesta and a 16 plate tt coupe petrol both in safe metallic grey and of the period. Both discontinued ir soon to be both iconic names. Sadly after my pcp is up on my diesel a4 i need a dreary hybrid with a cvt.
I remember ragging a brand new 214i hire car around. It was pretty good I thought, really punchy engine and loads of fun to drive.
Those rover engines gaskets aside were nippy for the time. In the 1996 new shape 214 it could pull 10ish seconds to 60 in a car that felt substantial. Had to run one for a few months when i was in a bad spot in 06 was old p reg thing the alan partridge style but it shifted.
Goffey was so effortlessly stylish. Not many people can pull off canary yellow with such ease.
As Chris Goffey's son is in Supergrass, that makes 2 out of 3 presenters are parents of future hitmakers.
I never knew that!
The calibre still looks good today
mate, it NEVER looked good..it was a try hard cavalier with no cred and even less performance...a wanker's car if you will.
"it was a try hard cavalier with no cred and even less performance"
What it was underneath and how little 'street cred' it had has nothing to do with how the car looks. I don't like most Vauxhalls either, especially of that era but the Calibra was a very good looking car, especially for its time and it has aged pretty well. Not a car I would ever have thought of owning, but I give credit where its due.
It does. A little dated, but good. The Calibra was actually made to hit a price point - the whole point of it was Cavalier man (who'd often drive a company car) could choose that instead with it only costing a little more. Being critical of it because it wasn't a competitor to a "serious" sports car is missing the point somewhat. Back then a Vauxhall was maybe 2/3rd the price of an equivalent BMW, Merc, Rover, Alfa etc, so the Calibra was something of a bargain.
The V6 and Turbo variants were decently fast cars and good value for what you got. Quite popular with middle management company car drivers who'd been funded for a Senator or Granada, but had too much of a sense of humour to actually drive one...
The Stig's English cousin yeah, but it would probably have put it on a level with the premium cars. It did well as it was barely any more pricey than the cavalier.
Rapscallion2009 I agree, back in the day very few cars looked as good as it did and it’s ages way better than other cars of that price point.
the reg number on the sierra IS still on the dvla computer - but its attached to a 205 GTI !! was edmonds driving a ringer??
cortinadave that makes no sense. Do you know what a ringer is?? Clearly not..
Simply could have been transferred. I know of a guy who has had numerous cars but he has kept the same registration number since 1963.
"Blobby Blobby Blobby......!!" - shouted critics of the new model Sierra
Actually, those Rover 200 cars were the best small car Rover produced. They were very good
Ben Wilde rover were around for 100 years and the only small car they produced was the 200. Your comment makes no sense.
Because Honda designed the body and supplied the engines for them.
Unfortunately rover decided to fit k series engines instead of the Honda realible engines, which they did with the 216..
This car was way ahead of the competition, the next 400 series did not cause the same impact
You're talking about cars? Everyone else round here seems interested in riding only 1 thing from the 1980s...
So long as you went for the Honda engine.
Always watched the Motorfair Show every year as a wee boy and wanted so much to go to London to see it. Sadly I never did. Maybe one day it'll be back.
But that Sierra Minko was awesome shame it never survived as dannyisso said. Would have been pne hell of a fast retro rocket.....
That Sierra IS still on the road. The reg number is E156XUB and not the G260NRA that is on film. That reg belonged to a Peugeot 205GTi. I think the 'G' reg was used simply to make the Sierra look newer than it was!
Has it really been almost 30 years?
Edmonds still looks the same even all these years later!
mtbuk1982 alittle weathered now in 2018...😏
What’s he like in 2023 ?
Lovely bit of old telly.
The music theme at beginning of the film has been haunting my mind for many years. Does anyone know who its by and if i can buy it today as a doenload or CD
nelly6819 hahahaha "haunting your mind"?? Some generic pish music from a crap obscure motoring show from the 80s? Fuck me mate give your head a wobble. Stop sniffing the glue!
Colin Johnston it sounds like abit of propaganda(the band), yello(band)
@@colinjohnston8519 He actually said "haunting my mind". Suggestion: Spend a little less time mocking people and more time improving your reading skills.
Hey Nelly, its a production track called "Go For It" by a guy called Murray Munro. He wrote many tracks for tv & film in the 80s and 90s. Its on this album: www.discogs.com/chart-show/release/11113381
The Sierra is now on ebay!
What a great time for the British car industry. Things were finally looking up. What happened??
we sold the lot. then blamed the foreigners. and now we live in a country where our leccy, water, trains and cars are owned by overseas investors.
Simple , we made totally shit cars . Fact .
Alan Partridge is Noel Edmonds.
Who would you stand in line to punch first ? 🤔
Janet Ellis one fine lady
Strange how even the rover 200 series models look good inside under the lighting! Haha
Back when women knew how to dress... Janet looked amazing 🤩
A Day Full of Songs [DVD] (2003)
I never realised that the effect of Janet Ellis saying "camshafts" would be quite so profound........
Does that Noel Edmonds ever age!
hard to tell under that beard
Yes, he is 69 and this time last year he was 68.
Wow Neol hasn't aged a day,
secret must be the kind heart that he has
He must be taking advice from Tom Cruise.
As J off the Inbetweeners would say "she'd definitely get it " 😛
She said “10 long rods”, there goes No Nut November.
People who post crap about the K Series have probably never driven a car containing one.
Yep. I've driven a few over the years. An amazing engine, certainly for it's time. Tarnished by the "oh they blow the head gasket" reputation. Most people who say that, don't even know what a head gasket is. A looked after K-series is a light, powerful and reliable! little engine that was way ahead of its time. Nowadays I pootle around in a boring Astra, with a 1.4 petrol engine. That makes around 100bhp. Rover were doing that with a 1.4 in 1989...
I agree. I had a brand new 214 Si on loan in mid 1990. 4 valves per cylinder was not the norm back then. It was revvy and refined. Ford had nothing to touch it at the time. I seem to recall that Rover later created a 105 bhp variant of the 1.4 K-Series by fitting multi-point injection in place of the throttle body injection used on the 90 bhp models.
I think it was mostly the 1.8 versions that suffered the head gasket problems, but that was enough to tarnish the reputation of the whole range. They were miles ahead of anything Ford, VW, Vauxhall etc. were offering at the time.
+soundseeker63 - undoubtedly true. Ford's CVH engine was ghastly. The only maker offering something similar in terms of technology, economy and power was Nissan with the SR20 series of two litre engines.
i had an Elise with a K series lump..head gasket went..pile of shit.
Totally agree...
Hahahaha 'protecting the drivers very vulnerable face'
Yes that one had me in titters too
The cavalier I owned in the mid 90s was a total heap of unreliable garbage and the Rover 214 was basically a rover badge stuck on a Honda which was a pretty good car when I owned one back then.
Rover . Ja uit den goeie tijd nog.
Informations formidables
@MGEFiChrisWGH3Champ they were beasts i used to work on them back in the day very quick!
Not NEC Birmingham but Earls Court
Loved my 216SLI but yeah, too many head-off jobs
wow 8 and a half grand .very expensive back then.and no airbags lol.
The reg on the Sierra is a little weird. G260 NRA. Literally just done a swift check online to see if it's still kicking about and it shows up as a red Peugeot 205, registered 8th August 1989. Tax expired 17th March 1997.
Lmo at that sierra at the start! cool indeed but it aint on the vdla site any more which could means its been scrapped hahah someone probably lost control of it!
No it hasn't. The G260NRA reg number belonged to a Peugeot 205GTi. Try E156XUB for the Sierra. The Sierra still has current tax (October 18) and MOT (April 19).
Janet the hottie 😘
Rover!❤💪
Luckily enough the Morris marinas all had complimentary bus timetables,
Arrh, the Ford Sierra, the car that buggered up the Bathurst 1000.
I'm a Ford man. Chevrolet is a third class car manufacturer. Took a bailout from the American government stifling the American taxpayer. Ford never did that to the taxpayers like Chevrolet did. It makes a big difference to me.
wtf?
Ford was an american company you prick .
I've never understood the hillbilly obsession of claiming to be a fan of a fucking corporation. Then bragging about it as if it somehow makes you a better person than the next.
Ohhh yes England is soo great these days...no Motorfair- No NEC International Motorshow.....if you are a car crazy kid living in UK its rubbish these days
Only Rover could think making a car as heavy as possible would be a good thing!! (03.50)
Ah....yes the Rover K series engine, very famous for Head Gasket failure.
A Day Full of Fun
At the end there, questioning the reliability of 80s Mazdas and Hondas.
Chris Goffey, father of Danny from Supergrass
Arhhhh Rover......what happened to them 🤔
Was a combination of mismanagement and car TV shows and journalist idiots that kept bringing up the old British Leyland failures over and over until the general public believed all the vehicles were rubbish. They were no worse than equivalent Fords and Vauxhalls at the time. For example anyone would by a Ford Orion over something like that Rover baffles me - they were poorly made, and dull as used dishwater. Guess only redeeming feature was when they broke down, the parts were cheap :-) - That 214 shown in the vid was actually pretty decent, I had the 214SLi. The comment about the solidity and quality feel were spot on - compared to my old Montego it did feel a class apart.
Funny how some cars keep there look and age well and others don't, some designers just have forward vision.
The front bumper looks horrible it doesn't suit the ford that Noel edmonds drove in the opening scene
They dont know..they was classic today🤣
Love that tinny 80s hitman n her vibe 😂
She was my schoolboy crush.
K series, the k stands for kettle
That range rover is probably the only thing there worth double now
K series engines with the injection are usually pretty unreliable. The Head gaskets go.
Think the 8valve (which is very rare) is ok though on that front. 214S
Only trouble is you get less power, 13'' wheels, a manual choke and no PAS
Sacrifices.. OUCH!
25 percent is the theme
Noel Edmonds sold his soul to the devil. HE NEVER AGES!!!!!!!!
Good grief, these cars aren't old enough to be interesting yet.
funny he says Discovery like it was the space shuttle
Ben Cheesecake weird to drop the the! Maybe some cringey late 80s early 90s way of selling things.
A lot of the presenters did that at the time, dropping 'the' and just saying the model.... sounds weird now
Blimey Talbot Rancho, there 's a rare car.
Janet Ellis Ahh
Revoloutionary K series engine. I think she is trying to say, worst engine Rover ever produced.
Play to those stereotypes....
Sophie's mum ...how embarrassing 😂🤣😂
Music by Pet Shop Boys fan boy....
🤣🤣🤣
Blimey, doesn't everyone sound posh?
I know. Very received pronunciation. On the other hand it could have been Janet Street Porter who really should come with sub-titles.
lol @6:11..smooth move Noel..
Cars from this era were utterly horrific..a real low point in car design..the 'jelly mould' years...We British lost our way and never, ever got it back..The appalling lack of brand identity, bland styling and poor build quality sealed our fate...Rover?? a joke..the poor man's Jag but with no style, quality, performance, prestige or resale value..
there were literally only a handful of cars that looked good in this entire decade.
They are kind of bland, aren't they?
simon lloyd that would be your opinion and not worth a shit. I loved the 80s, it was the decade that determined how cars today still look like, so no not a low point at all. British car industry lost its way in the 70s, the 80s was a comeback but bmw fucked river a decade later because they didn't want us competing. No not a poor man's jag by 1989, just a brand name for the affordable cars instead of Austin. You really don't know much about what you talking about eh?
That GSI, great car, won’t find many of those on the road today, sadly.
Planet Auto redtop
This was 1989 tbh this was the turn if the decade these were early 90s cars i grew up with as a kid. The jag xj was stunning so was the calibra renault laguna was a good looking car too conpared to the dire 21. Some terrible vehicles on display though that 626 must have been near the end of its shape that looks early 80s garbage. The mid 90s got some individuality back when things like the tigra came out omega 406 coupe etc where the late 80s early 90s you had the jelly mould specials. Cavalier 405 rover 800 etc.
She's hot.
Obsolete so quickly.
The cars or just us?
K series 😂😂😂
Rover 200 - what a bland heap of garbage.
Noel Edmunds. Tosser.
Really? Why?
I'm sure Alan Partridge is based on Edmunds.
@@peteterry2877 Edmunds is more annoying.
@@ericgeorge5483 Yes, but only because Edmunds is, unfortunately a real person!
@@Uzeless I just find him excruciatingly annoying, and up his own arse.