FLSUN Speeder Pad review: Control 3 printers at the same time, Buy Speeder Pad or Creality Sonic Pad
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ม.ค. 2023
- Welcome back to Aurora Tech Channel. Today, I will be reviewing the FLSUN speeder pad, which looks pretty similar to the Creality Sonic Pad. The major hardware differences between these 2 pads are that the Sonic Pad has 2GB RAM, 8GB ROM, 4 USB ports, and a power button, while this Speeder Pad has 1GB RAM, 16GB ROM, 3 USB ports and no power button. Besides that, features like the processor, the 7” touchscreen, accelerometer, and the rest of the hardware are pretty much the same. As for the software, the Speeder pad runs the Mainsail web interface and the Sonic pad runs Fluidd by default, but you can also launch MainSail using another port number. For printer profiles, the Speeder pad comes with 4 FLSUN printer profiles, including the V400, Super Racer, QQ S-Pro, Q5, and 5 types of common printer profiles. The sonic pad comes with 22 Creality printer profiles and a tool that allows you to generate firmware files for different printers.
I reviewed FLSUN’s latest machine, the V400 a few months ago. The V400 runs Klipper and prints as fast as 400mm/s with an 8k acceleration with pretty good print quality. Like some of you, I still have an older FLSUN Super Racer, which is also a pretty fast printer, but it’s limited by the Marlin firmware and the slow on-board processor, so it can only print up to a 150-200mm/s speed with a 3k acceleration, so it may not print as fast as the V400. I was wondering if adding a speeder pad to run Klipper firmware will make the Super Racer work as well as the V400, so we are going to find out today.
Additionally, the speeder pad claims it can control 3 printers at the same time, so I will hook up some other non-FLSUN printers like a basic Ender-3 and an Ender-3 S1 and see how it does.
I would like to thank FLSUN for sending me the speeder pad to review, and with that, let’s get started.
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Now we need a side by side comparison of both this and the Sonic Pad
How easy you make it for me and others. Thank you. Most important to me is that you are "encouraging" printer manufacturers to do all the work for us so that all we have to do is have a credit card. I do hope the garage starts to warm up!!!!!
Your videos are always great!! Straight to the point, super precise and honest reviews! Thank you!!
Great review as always
Interesting direction the printer interface is going.
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts on the topic 👍
Another fantastic and thorough review. Thank you
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very nice Video! thanks a lot! And also nice comparison to Sonic pad. I think it's really great and adds so much value that you can add multiple printers to those pads and print at the same time.
Always clicking Aurora Tech. ❤
Awsome review again. I knew the flsun was big, but with you next to it it seem gigantic 😎
On the notion of large printers, will you be looking at the elegoo neptune plus or max anytime soon?
Fantastic video. Glad I got the sonic pad!
Aurora the wise is doing it again 💪
Excellent work, thanks!
Y’all should cover the ‘proffesional’ firmware for the Ender!
Hi @Aurora Tech I was just wondering about how much a "Klipperized" SuperRacer could get closer to a V400, so this video is great timing!
Just one thing of note here; I've already bought both a Speeder Pad and a Sonic Pad. And the Retail version of FLSUN's Speeder Pad doesn't actually ship with an accelerometer. I was very surprised to see it missing in the box, but before I filed a complaint with the seller, I googled a bit to see if it's actually supposed to ship without. Sam Prentice's video on the Speeder Pad confirmed that retail, it indeed does not ship with either the accellerometer, or the stand. These are just for review samples it seems.
Also, the Sonic Pad has a bespoke port and cable for the accelerometer in the P/S2 form factor. Whilst the SpeederPad uses USB. So these can not be used interchangeably between the Pads.
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Amazing video review as always. I purchased my Flsun Speeder Pad about five months ago. It has been a complete "turd" and a waste of money. No support at all from Flsun and it does not come with the accelerometer. They do not offer it as an option to purchase. Only reviewers on social media got the accelerometer. If I could do it over I would not have spent money on the Speeder Pad at all. It has been sitting in a box for months and I can't return it and nobody will even buy it from me for half the price.
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Great review
Awesome video! As always you and your brother bring the most detailed information (based on my hours of sr videos on yt!). Any chance we could get a recommendation for a extruder+hotened equivalent to the v400 but for the flsun sr? Readers if you have upgraded those parts could you share your results :)?
Super well done!!!!!!
Great video.
My pet peef is companies using the word ROM to describe onboard Flash storage. ROM stands for Read Only Memory. You cannot store anything there. That is where firmware is stored. SSD and HDD is storage. I am sure someone in a foreign country translated it wrong, and now we are stuck with this oxymoron.
Intersting results, i was expecting a bigger increase but it makes sense the speed is hardware limited, bowden tube vs direct drive/ all metal hotend etc play a factor. Without a hardware upgrade maybe machine learning could produce an algorthim that finds the best settings for your model, and even applies them dynamicly so when your model has long walls it changes the settings to match, whereas right now if im not mistaken the settings dont change throughout the whole model which probably slows things down when its not needed to be. Ultimately being able to change the nozzel size on the fly would be ideal so you can really speed up on infills with thick layering and slow down with a smaller nozzel for finer detail but that tech doesnt exist yet so in the meantime... im guessing a machine learned or script even could maybe cut down print times on all these printers that are printing at one setting throughout the whole model. Some kind of intelligent AI model analzyzer (slicer basically) that can find the best settings for your model and apply them dynamically. Maybe could eek out another 20-30% speed boost sort of how like AI upscaling in gaming gives us a free performance boost.
awesome video, gave me lots of ideas.. orthopedic innersole where did you get the model? would to see more videos about making the inserts . thanks
I would love to see you review the new Creality Laser Module 10 watt that fits on a CR-10. I'm curious how operating it on a CR-10 compares to using a dedicated laser, such as the Creality 10 Watt laser falcon or another comparible laser. Thanks! Love your content!
Great job as always. I have been unable to find out what Klipper release the Sonic Pad uses. There is an update in the manual but I believe that is the Sonic Pad software not Klipper. I am trying to find out if Sonic Pad has in print, Object exclusion now.
Love the video!! My speeder pad did not come with the accelerometer....How do I get one?
Thanks for the wonderful, comprehensive video
I have a question, I have an artillery sidewinder x 2 which port should I connect it to and which file should I insert on the sd card
Thank you
Another awesome video thank you but I have a a couple of questions that maybe you can make a video on and share with us newbies. I have a QQS-Pro running with a speeder pad, Question 1 is on the top of the speeder pad is a slot for a micro sd card it is recessed really low in the unit and very hard to put in a sd card and remove but, what is this used for?? I thought if you don't have wifi you can put your stl file on a sd card and insert it here instead but does not seem to work.How to you get stl files onto the speeder pad now that the original machine slot is not used anymore. Question 2 is why do some of the icons from the stl print file show up in red or yellow on the speeder pad screen ??? is this related to the filament i.e PLA is yellow and TPU is red ??? Question 3 is can I see my printer from a webcam while using another internet connection like while at work ?? my ip is not 192.168.etc. its 10.0.1.etc should I add the 7125 ??? can you please help and clear up some of these things that are confusing. Many Thanks keep up the great reviews love watching your unbiased opinion. Wayne, Western Australia
Very nice 👌
Thanks for the speeder pad setup esp for the SR. May I know if I use the FLsun 400 printhead unit / mod to direct drive & cht, does it match its speed? ❤thanks for showing the way.
Great video, as always. However, I am sure many, like me, would like to know what version of Cura, as it has V400 profile. The only one I found is the new beta version, but it does not connect to Moonraker. Thanks for the reply.
Hey Aurora, I’ve watched this video a bunch of times. Made me order the speeder pad for my SR.
I think there should be a note added to your video as all consumer versions of the speeder pad come with nothing other than the pad and a power cable.
Unlike the Creality Sonic Pad which comes with a USB to connect to the printer and an accelerometer. Speeder pad has neither.
Your video shows that you got an accelerometer, but that seems to be only influencers who got those.
Thanks for the info. Having problems with my Speed Racer. It won't read my sd cards nor my computers does not recognize the usb cable connection.
I wonder if this pad will be able to work with resin printers with the proper firmware update.
ROM? I believe it has NAND Flash which is writeable! if Klipper were written to a ROM you would not be able to save any adjustments to the Klipper FW.
Thanks for the video! I've been wanting for it!
I have the V400, but I would like to connect the pad to my ender v2, but i have installed the new Sprite kit which has direct drive, i needed to do some changes to make it work, installed jyres os code and some manual changes.
How would you connect the pad to that modified printer? It seems to be worth the effort
You just need to edit the printer.cfg, use the Ender-3 S1 cfg file as reference to set the extruder values as well as bltouch(if you have upgraded to ABL).
Hmmm the B type printer.cfg is just for a standard ender 3 V2 - How did you get the version with bed leveling for the CR-Touch?
Hi, I have a flsun V400 which of course comes with a FLSUN Speeder Pad. I also have two FLSUN-SR's which I wanted to Klipperise and run from the speeder pad. I followed your youtube video and was able to control all three printers from the speeder pad. However, accessing the speeder pad over the LAN using the Mainsail app, I can only see the V400 which is connected to the USB port 1 on the Speeder Pad. If I try and add a printer in Mainsail, it only wants to know the IP address and port number. Is there something else that I need to do to allow Mainsail to see all three printers?
you rock little girl!!
Can we flash the sonic pad with the speeder pad software?
If one has an Ender 5 Plus and Ender 3 Pro with SKR mini e3 v3 boards installed is it any easier to use the crealty sonic pad over the FLSUN Speeder Pad, or once the new board is installed would it be just as easy to use a speeder pad?
Has the Speeder Pad root ssh access? The sonic pad has not.
While having 3 or 4 printers on one pad, I actually am more intersted in one printer with multiple MCUs on one pad (like main printer board, CAN for printhead and second MCU for ERCF)...
By default, no, but you can get root access by doing this:
github.com/Guilouz/Klipper-Flsun-Speeder-Pad
Can I also use this speeder pad for my tevo little monster printer?
My speeder pad did not come with the accelerometer or USB cable.
You forget that when you want a webcam and use a usbstick for STL tranfer, all usb-connectors are used.
good morning my name is Christian. With the flsun speeder pad that comes with the v400 3d printer can it also be used with fdm printers that are not flsnu? Thank you
Is there a profile on the speeder pad for the ender 5 plus or would the ender 3 s1 possibly work?
smart cookie you are but the duets i am sure you know can run as many as you want on a tablet or pc but without the fun of accelerometer of course is why i may have to learn klipper sooner then later perhaps
I have the V400 and works great with that. Trying to link my other 2 ender 3 V2s but the speeder pad didnt come with an accelerometer :( is there any way around this?
You can print a model to calibration it manually: www.klipper3d.org/Resonance_Compensation.html
@@AuroraTech great! However the speeder pad i got with my V400 wont recognise my Ender 3 V2 :( I dont even have a printer option on my speeder pad.
Also does anyone have a cura profile set up for when i can eventually connect the ender 3 v2 to the speeder pad please? and what speeds etc do i print the resonance_compensation?
Would it be possible to get your total printer profile for this SR setup ?
I have the speeder pad but I don't see any option to choose other printer. Is this a new version?
I'm extremy happy with my SR running version 1.4 .So if I'm correct this add on is speed orientated With a input shaper feature , So my ? Is why is it necessary at all .I mean I printed a torture toaster which printed great .
It's more about that Klipper can use more advanced features. Your torture toaster came out nearly perfect, but that's probably all the better you'll ever get it with Marlin. If the price is worth it to you, switching to Klipper will give you that last 2.5% that marlin can't handle. Faster acceleration and speed, more fine tuned and precise control, more accurate hotend and bed temperature control, input shaping that allows those higher speeds with the same or better print quality, Klippers version of linear advance for getting those nice sharp corners. That's all not to mention controlling more than one printer from one single place, as well as much much better remote control for when you want to check on/change/start/stop a print when you're away (octoprint can do some of this remote stuff but mainsail/fluidd has more features).
If you're happy with Marlin then by all means continue with it! I know I am for sure. But in the future I see more and more printers coming stock with Klipper or having a much easier/cheaper way of implementing Klipper.
First thank you for the reply ! As of now I'll wait out for further development of the speeder pad .As i mainly use my 3 printers for 3d printed rc planes . KLIPPER seems interesting though I have to admit .But I'll give it a few more months .Oh I have two creeality v2 stock and the formentioned SR
I download E configuration file for my creality CR-10S Pro V2 but the file just came with to files printer.cfg and readme.txt, copy the cfg file to the micro USB and put it my printer but nothing happens, and in my speeder pad don't appears the option of printers in the actuons menu 😢
Hello, I have a Flusun qqs pro printer and I bought a speed pad after installing it, wanting to base the printer, the motors turn on and hum and the head is stationary, please help
No USA shipping?
I am having trouble connecting Speeder Pad to CR10-V2 there is no file to flash it, any recommendations?
How does one contact you to suggest doing a review on a geetech a10t with a 3 in 1 out with auto leveling?
I don't have the option "Printers" when I go to configuration in the Speeder Pad??
Creality cr4m review needed
How on earth was she using flsun v400 settings with this thing. I just installed and fine tuned my speeder pad with super racer and tried the v400 settings on it and got the most obvious examples of what happens when a printer is trying to print faster than it can. My printer is the exact same as hers just without the fan upgrades how was hers able to print anywhere close to those speeds??
Wonder if I can do this to run my Anycubic kobra 2 Neo
I really need the config file for the SR there is not a default profile for sr on klipper and all I can find are others files which vary a lot and don't have fine tuning on some
38 minutes to print a becnhy at 350mm/s and 5-8k acceleration doesn't match my cura profiles at aprox. the same speed. on my profile i'm hitting well below 20 minutes and even less (depending on infill and wall settings). How does that make sense?
How does this sound: SonicPad for my CR10S Pro V2 and then get the FLSun super racer to put beside it for smaller prints? I need you to confirm this idea so my wife will let me buy them. 😏
Help me out. My printer Top speed is 300 but this speed Pad can make it faster?
in my Speeder pad the Printer option does not appear to add my flashed ender 3. what can i do?
Where can I get a v400 profile in cura? throw it off, please
I never even knew these things exist
Has abybody used this on a skr mini e3 v2?
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Can the creality sonic pad be installed tp the VLSun Speed
racer?
Yes, they work the same way, but the FLSUN pad provides profiles for their own machines, making it easier for the speedracer.
13:03 Can't you just share all profiles from both, so then it wouldn't matter which one we get?
Аврора, вопрос не по теме, но сколько вам лет?
you blocked your wifi password, but your finger still shows where you are pressing.
I have a Super Racer that only has the 5015 mod you have. I printed a comparable benchy at 37 minutes with no other abnormal slicer settings and NO Speeder Pad. Also, your own benchy in your Super Racer review printed at 32 minutes (again, NO Speeder Pad). Now here the Speeder Pad is giving you a 41 minute benchy on the Super Racer. So this is actually slowing your machine down??? (more like a brake pad than a "Speeder" pad...)
Your Dad don't need a clean surface, 🤣🤣🤣
Yes, he put those things under the insoles of his shoes to work as arch supports.
@@AuroraTech You are very kind using TPU instead of PLA, Dad will be happy 😅
Creality updated the SonicPad lately and the firmware it produced just doesn’t run on the E3V2. Needless to say, I’m sending it back for a refund. What a fail.
There are 3 different motherboards (v4.22, v4.27, v4.31) for the Ender 3 V2. Combining with ABL or no-ABL, you may need to manually edit the printer.cfg file.
it concerns me that nearly every you tuber claims that the prints look good after a high speed test. to me they look very bad and i would throw them in the trash. did all of are opinions drop a few levels for speed? none of those benchies would pass as good just a year ago but now we call them all ok just for speed?
Flsun stock firmware is trash! I can't believe it still only v1.2
What happens if you use a USB hub? Can you talk the pad into handling more than 3 printers?
P.S. I would strongly encourage you to remove your location from your videos.
The screen may not be able to support that as it only allows you to choose from port 1-3. Is there any specific reason that you suggest me to remove my location?
@@AuroraTech
Well, I was, and still am, curious as to whether or not you could use up more of that CPU's overhead that way.
On the other issue.
1. It's not pertinent to the topics you cover.
2. It increases your personal risk.
Stranger danger may be overblown, but it is still a valid concern. Even adults generally don't post their location on their videos, unless it is relevant to the topics they cover. If I were a betting man, I'd even go so far as to wager your parents hadn't realized you'd made the change to your account to indicate your approximate, city-level, location. Claim the state, if you must; I can understand both state and civic pride, and the desire to "represent", and you are an exemplary representative for every quality that is known or inferrable about you; but I'd recommend against giving away more information than that.
In short, it's not needed by your legitimate audience, and you don't need the creeps and weirdos to have it. Especially any creeps or weirdos that live within commuting distance already.