Did Games Workshop Build The Crystal Maze?

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  • @alanmorgan3490
    @alanmorgan3490 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Richard O'Brien came into GW Guildford in the later 90s. We fenced with rolled up GW carrier bags. My then-manager had no idea who he was, and being very straight laced did not like what he saw. There were words said out back later. Worth it.

  • @cantstraferight
    @cantstraferight ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Didn't see any comments about it, but Necromunda has had a few references to Crystal Maze. Bald Bryen of Rust Town likes to put gangers through his "deadly dungeon extravaganza" and winners are awarded Chrono Crystals. It's mentioned a few times here and there in the books and there is even a white dwarf scenario to play (although it's a bit more killing each other than puzzles)

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn’t clock those references, that’s great!

  • @buggersgrips1977
    @buggersgrips1977 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ed TudorPole also appeared in an indie film called “Gamerz”about roleplaygamers set in Glasgow- might be worth looking for.

  • @Yurt_enthusiast7
    @Yurt_enthusiast7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I dunno if it just because I'm drunk right now, but the fact that the TV show Fort Boyard, Rocky horror and GW has a tangential connection is absolutely mind blowing to me.
    It's like the Crystal maze is created solely for my weird interests😅

  • @AntonyJohnston
    @AntonyJohnston 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun fact: this wasn’t the first time Ed Tudor-Pole had followed in O’Brien’s footsteps, as prior to taking over TCM he also played Riff-Raff in a stage version of Rocky Horror 😂

    • @AntonyJohnston
      @AntonyJohnston 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      (The same production which starred a young Anthony Head as Frank N Furter…)

  • @Mark-nh2hs
    @Mark-nh2hs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As soon as I saw this title The Crystal Maze theme played in my head. Remember watching this as a youngster and loving it. As well as Knightmare....... "Oooohhhh Nasty". 😂

  • @chrisherbert9924
    @chrisherbert9924 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s a good game, I had the crystal maze board game growing up

  • @jamescann9152
    @jamescann9152 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Did you ever get that thing, where you were excited to see what the next game was, and got really disappointed if it ended up baing a word puzzle insetad of a remote controlled moon-buggy? 'Cos I did.

  • @infinus_01
    @infinus_01 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Genuinely fascinating, the interweaving story of Crystal Maze and Fort Boyard was completely unknown to me - I always assume Fort Boyard was a ripoff of Crystal Maze. Great stuff Jordan

  • @DaveJoria
    @DaveJoria ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m a yank, but I spent a few years of my childhood in UK, and I agree; the Crystal Maze was such a formative and inspiring show. I definitely share your love, and enjoyed the video.

  • @Rob-nq6br
    @Rob-nq6br ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No-one ever chose "Mystery" enough for the rooms. I only remember seeing a handful of them over the whole run.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, almost makes you wonder if they only really had one mystery per zone!

  • @lokennz
    @lokennz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Richard O'Brien is a bit of a legend. He lives here in NZ now after we cajoled the government to give him citizenship ❤ He also grew up here.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pleased to hear it, such a legend deserves to love in such a beautiful country!

  • @philnewton-england7795
    @philnewton-england7795 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Awesome video, Jordan. It's always great to see others spread the word of The Crystal Maze. Many thanks for the shout out, too. I'm honoured.
    PS loved your "start the fans" bit at the end 😆😆😆
    Edit:What a lovely cat you have too❤️❤️❤️

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks so much Phil, and thanks again for your wonderful contributions! I will let Martha know she has another fan (she is only in the YT game for the fame!)

    • @philnewton-england7795
      @philnewton-england7795 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jordansorcery 👍🏼👍🏼🐈❤️

  • @antoinesoonekindt9753
    @antoinesoonekindt9753 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow. Growing up in France in the 80-90s, I remember Fort Boyard, but I had totally forgotten about "la chasse au trésor" et "les mondes fantastiques" (which I have seen, early).
    It's so funny that a video about British television would bring reminiscences about French TV!
    Great as always

  • @thewatercyclist
    @thewatercyclist ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice history! I loved the original Crystal Maze but my childhood nostalgia is for the Adventure Game on BBC2 and the UK version of the Treasure Hunt on Ch4 in the early 80s. The latter generally seemed to involve rafts, made out of logs, blue barrels and rope, that fell apart halfway across some freezing lake in Scotland or the Lake District. The thing I remember most about the Adventure Game was the vortex puzzle at the end, which often ended the way of a Knightmare quest: “Go right! No left! aarrrrrgh….”

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I missed out on The Adventure Game, but the more I hear of it the more I think I would have loved it!

  • @housewife2000
    @housewife2000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Marvellous work again! Fascinating how there are so many threads connecting these mighty titans of our childhoods - from Crystal Maze to Fighting Fantasy, 2000AD and Doctor Who. Your research is revealing some incredible gems!

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว

      The connections across the industry, especially back then, really are fascinating. There's a few more curios and oddities that I've got my eye on as well (alongside the 'bigger' stuff) so hopefully there'll be even more surprises down the line!

  • @EnDungeoned
    @EnDungeoned ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Are you going to be doing a video on Knightmare soon too?

    • @prepcooksurvive5807
      @prepcooksurvive5807 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was thinking the same

    • @charly03090309
      @charly03090309 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@prepcooksurvive5807 As was I... Dont think there is GW connection though. Either way... Nasty!!!

    • @rp7155
      @rp7155 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’d love that!

  • @timpollard
    @timpollard 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There was also a session with Andy, Jervis and me in an office in Enfield Chambers, one of my suggestions was the 'climbing up the spider's web without disturbing the spider' game due to my then acute arachnophobia...

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I imagine that one caused a fair few panic attacks!

  • @matthayward7889
    @matthayward7889 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brilliant video! Two of my favourite things from my youth
    - WD109

  • @magnifig4366
    @magnifig4366 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You never cease to amaze ! Merci pour m'avoir fait découvrir cet étrange spin-off de Fort Boyard 🙂

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pas de problème! Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @rickstar171
    @rickstar171 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    another amazing video, and the whole "getting to watch just before I had to go to bed" critically hit me right in the feels

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There were always conflicting feelings when it was time for the Crystal dome - it was about to be the exciting finale, but it was also almost time for bed!

  • @MiniatureRealms
    @MiniatureRealms ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoyed that, definitely took me by surprise to see you cover this, but very glad you did.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว

      You and me both! I just couldn’t get the idea out of my head after I found out GW had been involved!

  • @garrysmith9385
    @garrysmith9385 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic work as always Jordan, you took me right back to my childhood. I loved the crystal maze, and you mentioned Red Dwarf, another show I loved and grew up watching.
    Keep up the good work 👍

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Garry, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @veritanuda
    @veritanuda ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant and fascinating. I loved CM, but only really watched it BECAUSE of Richard 'O'Brian, so when he left I did too. Did not know GW came up with the puzzles, but I do remember thinking, these seem very RPG like to me, so who knew?!
    Cheers for doing this. Love these deep dives in to the background of things I still cherish in my memories.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว

      I was a huge Crystal Maze fan as a kid so to find out it was connected to my other great love - Games Workshop - I just had to spend some time on it!

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had to pause to find the theme song. Good stuff.

  • @PRAISE_HASHUT
    @PRAISE_HASHUT ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ok now we need a tangent episode on Channel 4 soap opera Brookside…

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “I’m Jordan, this is Jordan Sorcery, and today we’re exploring why Sinbad and Mick have fallen out again”

  • @Jackalblade9
    @Jackalblade9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the true sorcery of your channel sir; the ability to engage me with something I have absolutely no connection to. Growing up in the US, I never heard of the Crystal Maze until I started catching random references to it from UK friends I'd met online or UK TH-camrs I'd watched who'd grown up with it. Even then I never really bothered to follow up. But as always you've thrown together an engaging and informative video and hooked me all the way through.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheers Jackal, that’s a mighty complement! Just be wary I don’t start doing videos about all the random TV shows from my childhood!

  • @josesolias
    @josesolias ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That show was bloody amazing

  • @Dylanquinn666
    @Dylanquinn666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes! I absolutely loved Crystal Maze as a kid :)

  • @thehappyogryn
    @thehappyogryn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    we only had fort boyard here on the tv at the time, but was one of my favorite shows, i loved the feeling of the D&D on that show. Now i know where that all come from, once again great video....oh and some of the puzzles included those famous vermins...well at least the litle ones...not the warp stone infuse ones...

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว

      You never know where those rat bois will turn up next!

  • @PutYourQuarterUpGaming
    @PutYourQuarterUpGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had similar feeling when learned Battletech and Mechwarrior are same thing essentially.
    Had zero clue about table top etc as a kid or any of that history but I watched a certain cartoon, and loved a certain tiger paint Axmen toy, not to mention the first games ever played were Mechwarrior as a wee little kid on DOS.
    Only few years ago did I find out that they’re same thing, still play Mechwarrior to this day, so was pretty neat to find out. Like always been with me or w/e lol

  • @DarkWaveDuo
    @DarkWaveDuo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Jordan…
    The French Treasure show was like the British TV show called Treasure Hunt… Annika Rice then someone else in later years had to travel round the UK looking for clues. Two members of the public had to solve clues and get Annika known as the Sky Runner had to go around in a Helicopter..
    not sure if you knew of this show but I watched it in the 1980’s

    • @WanderlustZero
      @WanderlustZero 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I thought that French show looked familiar!

  • @danielwilliamson6180
    @danielwilliamson6180 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Richard O'Brien made The Crystal Maze. He gave the show humour and character.

  • @laurentderrien
    @laurentderrien ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting, I had never heard of it but I grew up watching Fort Boyard in France
    keep the geek nostalgia videos coming pls !

  • @Zadster
    @Zadster ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a bit surprised the daddy of all these didn't get a mention: The Adventure Game. But you might be a bit too young to have seen that. Again, it was like a bunch of escape rooms, with puzzles to solve and characters to interact with. There was also Now Get Out Of That from the same era, but nobody seems to remember that.
    I get the feeling that the main reason Games Workshop were involved, was that they are called Games Workshop. Maybe someone in the office was looking for outside assistance in designing games and it seemed like the name of a company who might (duh) design and make games. Never mind that they were a totally different sort of game!

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you’re dead right - like when MB called GW about playing pieces I can imagine someone at Chatsworth just checking out the Yellow Pages for games designers!
      And you’re quite right, The Adventure Game preceded Crystal Maze AND me, but looking at it now there definitely seems to be influence from it!

  • @Gruntcakes69
    @Gruntcakes69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great research, really interesting the GW connection. Thanks for knowledge 🙏🏽

  • @M-E_123
    @M-E_123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's weird about Games Workshop as you say - that they worked on something I enjoyed before even knowing who they were.
    It's kind of like when I found out that the writer behind Babylon 5 had previously worked on the cartoons He-man, Jace & the Wheeled Warriors and The Real Ghostbusters - basically all the cartoons I really got into as a kid in the 80's.
    Or Russell T Davies writing the Dr Who revival in 2005, but I'd first encountered his work all the way back when he was writing for Children's Ward.
    Or most recently, and quite a bit.later, that the guy behind Black Mirror co wrote Brass Eye.
    I guess up to a certain age I was just oblivious to writers and behind the scenes production news. I just watched thing's I enjoyed watching and didn't think about it.
    But it does make me wonder who was behind some other shows I enjoyed growing up, and whether it might be worth looking up what they've been up to the last 20-30 years since.
    Also raises questions about whether the writers just have a way of connecting to me, or if actually they've somehow imprinted themselves on me because I was exposed to their work at a young age, so I now associate the way they write with "good writing" (or is it just nostalgia - an echo in their style that reminds me subconsciously of my youth?).
    Gets quite existential - are my tastes really my own, or am I just a product that certain people have primed early on in order to fund their future careers? Like a sleeper agent.

  • @M2Mil7er
    @M2Mil7er ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm old enough to remember 'The Adventure Game' on BBC2. Before I watch, I'm willing to bet it gets a mention at the very least!
    EDIT: No mention, but The 'Adventure Game' and 'The Krypton Factor' always felt like progenitors to 'The Crystal Maze' to me.

    • @jacobturnerart
      @jacobturnerart ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Adventure Game scared me - I thought they really did get teleported off by that vortex!

    • @M2Mil7er
      @M2Mil7er ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacobturnerart yeah there something eerie about it. The Plant was a bit disturbing to me, but couldn't' stop watching!

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว

      The Adventure Game slipped past me, but now I think you are quite right about it and Krypton Factor being early influences! Even if the Crystal Maze creators didn’t make the connection

    • @WanderlustZero
      @WanderlustZero 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I miss The Krypton Factor. Of all the game shows, that one seemed to actually reward intelligence. Banger theme tune too

  • @mattwaugh5984
    @mattwaugh5984 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome stuff - maybe time for Knightmare!

  • @badlydrawnhobbyist
    @badlydrawnhobbyist ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nightmare next 🤔?

  • @templarsking
    @templarsking ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video, Jordan. So, I'm playing the PC version of Warhammer Quest, and one of the most powerful spells that the enemy units can cast is, you guessed it, "Crystal Maze", which teleports one of your heroes off the map entirely for a whole turn. Not all that bad you'd say, right? Except that if you kill the dark magic user that cast it before your hero is zapped back into the dungeon, that hero will die, forever lost in the crystal maze. (Which is made more frustrating when your heroes have to surround said necromancer instead of killing him, so as not to lose Hero McHeroson to the maze, allowing the necro to resurrect minions and potentially keep up the Crystal Maze cycle on another hero if he has enough power points, prolonging his inevitable demise.)
    I seriously started your video here thinking there was a Warhammer fantasy origin myth to the crystal maze and the spell, but was pleasantly surprised to learn about the UK show of the same name instead.
    I assume the Crystal Maze spell card exists on the tabletop version of Warhammer Quest. I haven't played the tabletop much (I was more a HeroQuest player and then skipped over to WH40K and Mordheim.)
    Is there a crystal maze card anywhere in Talisman? Warhammer Fantasy Battles? A spell in WH Fantasy roleplay?

  • @atp485
    @atp485 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Crystal Maze Mystery books were a blast.

  • @WanderlustZero
    @WanderlustZero 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Credit where it's due, the Ch5 remake of Fort Boyard had an added frisson of danger by having a convicted murderer as one of the co-hosts

  • @dakkawaaagh13
    @dakkawaaagh13 ปีที่แล้ว

    my favorite game was the RC moon lander in the space zone

  • @Lightforeverandever
    @Lightforeverandever 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for all the info. Is the 2018 version better/more fun playable?

  • @picassawi5578
    @picassawi5578 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh I remember that show, good trip to Memory Lane! 💚

  • @almostgoodvariant
    @almostgoodvariant ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t think Crystal Maze was ever broadcast in Finland. But Fort Boayrd sure was and I loved the hell out of that show
    Excited to dig into this video!
    Edit: Well, why it was never broadcast in Finland was in fact answered by the video, ha.

  • @prepcooksurvive5807
    @prepcooksurvive5807 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the reminisces of my childhood 🤜

  • @michaelstockin1636
    @michaelstockin1636 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was into GW at the time, and when I saw them listed in the shows credits it sort of felt like I was part of the show too.
    Kids eh!!
    I recall one game that moved a knight around a landscaped table, that was an obvious GW one.

  • @knucklebonesminiatures6535
    @knucklebonesminiatures6535 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never knew GW was involved with Crystal Maze. I always thought the show spawned from The Adventure Game. There was even some parts of the hexagonal wall stuff used in the show.
    How about Knightmare next?

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว

      I missed out on The Adventure Game, but I'm tempted to check it out now!

  • @highmarshalbalian680
    @highmarshalbalian680 ปีที่แล้ว

    6th edition WFB is what we wanted!

  • @thefenrisianssweatshop
    @thefenrisianssweatshop ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I adored crystal maze. Like you it was a sign beddiebobo’s was approaching. Until Tudor pole took over. He just did have the pizzazz o’brian did. Turns out Brit Box is doing the reruns.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว

      It definitely lost something for me after O’Brien left, he just added the magic!

  • @Mr_Waffle.
    @Mr_Waffle. ปีที่แล้ว

    "It was something that was absolutely the highlight of my week, and when its theme tune started I was in heaven" Sounds like this show to me! (I may or may not be in PJs)
    Unfortunately I don't think we ever got this show in Australia when I was a kid, I guess the "no europe" rule extended to us since we were PAL as well...? Looks like the modern version came to Aus at least. Great video regardless!!

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cheers Waffle! It's a shame the classic show didn't make it to Aus, it was such good fun! I don't know if they're region locked, but the Crystal Maze channel on YT actually has a load of original episodes for free online if you do fancy giving them a go

  • @chocodoco4855
    @chocodoco4855 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating.

  • @meiketorkelson4437
    @meiketorkelson4437 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this. I feel I am going to out myself as MUCH older than you... did you ever watch the BBC Adventure Game, which also felt like a predecessor?

    • @meiketorkelson4437
      @meiketorkelson4437 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gronda gronda...

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hadn’t heard of it until now, unfortunately, but I think you are right on the money about it!

  • @nickharling3902
    @nickharling3902 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fucks sake, Jordan. Stop knocking it out of the park every damn time

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว

      The history simply flows through me Nick, I can’t control it!

  • @toi_techno
    @toi_techno ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The most English thing about it was the hilariously low prize money

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can’t beat a whole two days worth of intense effort for £20 and a packet of crisps!

  • @plunetzero
    @plunetzero ปีที่แล้ว +1

    brilliant vid badger wizard

  • @Hey_McG
    @Hey_McG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When Robin Hood Prince of Thieves appeared I said to myself 'even in a JS video not about GW it still comes back to Nottingham'... then BAM Games Workshop turns up like Stone Cold Steve Austin interrupting a match on WWE 😄
    Does this mean that Richard O'Brian's persona in The Crystal Maze may well have been a hidden Tzeentch lord all along?

  • @Mark-nh2hs
    @Mark-nh2hs ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol even back then GW were at it not having other competition be along side "Their" puzzles hahaha some things never change 😂

  • @WanderlustZero
    @WanderlustZero 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12:36 That's so weird. I was looking for that photo of the guy cosplaying a genestealer hybrid in response to your Genestealer Cults video, yet here it is. That was such a look.

  • @tanyaf2097
    @tanyaf2097 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WILL YOU START THE FANS, PLEASE!

  • @tonythesuperperson
    @tonythesuperperson ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh wow, I remember seeing Fort Boyard and thinking it was the rip off!

  • @josephshriner2850
    @josephshriner2850 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excuse me, but I feel that you mistakenly referred to what is clearly Grant Morrison as Richard O'Brien.

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว

      Entirely possible, both are enigmatic legends!

    • @josephshriner2850
      @josephshriner2850 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jordansorcery I felt like a dork, because he looked like Grant in the thumbnail and knew I should have recognized the name. Like all premature smart Alec behavior in the comments section, I realized who it was as you called out his prior roles. I recognized him from Dark City as Mr. Hand. Phenomenal film if you haven't seen it.

  • @stevenkennedy4130
    @stevenkennedy4130 ปีที่แล้ว

    Neat-0!

  • @GhostGuitars
    @GhostGuitars ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The channel 5 show was a bit shit wasnt it? enjoyed the original series and visiting the live experience (think i might have been in maidenhead)

    • @jordansorcery
      @jordansorcery  ปีที่แล้ว

      It definitely lacked the magic and character of Crystal Maze, that’s for sure!

  • @Lightforeverandever
    @Lightforeverandever 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello
    I have the original game but didnt know/watch the show im sure it was great
    But the original board game, is prolly the most antipractical board game i have ;_;

  • @jprp999
    @jprp999 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't have 20 mins to waste on this but i can tell you it was a rip-off of a previous show called "The Adventure Game".

  • @batjutsu
    @batjutsu ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🔮Fab show and another great source of inspirations for old RPG adventure ideas and puzzles. I'd never looked in to the show's history, so this was a delight to learn about, thank you. Squeak-Squeak 🐀🌠 🔮