Eustace Chapuys: Life, Letters & Legacy
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It’s time to talk about the life, letters and legacy of Eustace Chapuys…
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Images (from Wikimedia Commons, unless otherwise stated):
Screen recording and screenshots from www.british-history.ac.uk/
Portrait of Martin Luther by Lucas Cranach the Elder (1528). Held by the Coburg Fortress.
The 1517 Nuremberg printing of Ninety-five Theses, now housed at the Berlin State Library.
Portrait of Charles III, Duke of Bourbon by an unknown artist (16th century). Held by the Château de Beauregard, Loire Valley.
Portrait of Bcholas de Perrenot, seigneur de Granvelle attributed to Titian (c,1548). Held by the Musée du Temps
Portrait of Emperor Charles V with Dog by Jakob Seisenegger (1532). Held by the Kunsthistorisches Museum.
Portrait of Katherine of Aragon by an unknown artist (16th century). Held by Lambeth Palace.
Portrait of Henry VIII by Joos van Cleve (c.1530-35). Held by the Royal Collection.
Portrait of Eustache Chapuys by an unknown artist (17th century). Held by the Musée-chateau Annecy.
Portrait of Thomas Cromwell by Hans Holbein the Younger (1532-1533). Held by the Frick Collection.
Quoted texts:
A. J. Carlyle, The English Historical Review (1895)
Transcript from media.nationalarchives.gov.uk...
C. S. L. Davies, ODNB entry for Eustache Chapuys.
Also consulted, were:
Other relevant entries from The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography Online.
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The letter where Chapuys describing the facial expressions of Cromwell is interesting. Can you imagine how treacherous that court would’ve been, not only from Henry himself but from ambassadors like Chapuys who were watching every move, every nuance, every facial expression and reporting back. You’d never be able to let your guard down for even a second; I have to think this level of stress contributed to Anne Boleyn’s bad temper. What a terrible place to be, where you trust no one and can’t have a single true friend.
"I have to think this level of stress contributed to Anne Boleyn’s bad temper. What a terrible place to be, where you trust no one and can’t have a single true friend."
And where and when it was so easy to fall from grace in a heartbeat and get your head lopped off!
I read somewhere that one of Henry's contemporaries wrote that he never made eye contact with people. That would have to have been creepy as all get out for those in his company.
@@shesaknitter Only if you were an English born wife. Henry didn’t dare execute Katherine of Aragon or Anne of Cleaves. They were from powerful European royalty. It just proves even more what shit Henry viii really was. I just wish he’d known that all his murderous actions were for nothing.
I know The Tudors series on Showtime took some liberties, but I definitely found Chapuys to be one of the most interesting characters. Excited for this one!
Me too. I also appreciate how long he was at the Tudor court and had no need to be sycophantic unlike other courtiers.
Although I feel that his feelings towards Anne Boleyn may have been a bit extreme - although understandable for the time.
It really is nice to have a credentialed historian present this.
Same for me! I always liked seeing him around. As you stated, he was one of the most interesting characters in the show!
He was probably my favorite character
and he never were in the intro titles like the french ambassador was.....all with an spanish aura the anglos hate
Eustace was one of my favorite Tudor characters. He was a great gossip and he cracked me up sometimes. He is also responsible for us knowing as much as we do today of Catherine of Aragon and Queen Mary I. Thanks so much Dr Kat.
I became more than minimally aware of Chapuys when I read “Wolf Hall” where he was presented very accurately as someone engaged in a complicated but personally friendly ritual of communication and gamesmanship with Thomas Cromwell. I’m strangely pleased but not surprised to learn from your presentation that he was placed in his position at the English court because of his specific skills and not because he was someone’s brother in law.
I think that Eustace was made to bow to Anne, even though it was weeks before her imprisonment, because Henry wanted him to acknowledge Anne as his wife, and therefore Henry's power as church head. It was really all about Henry. It didn't have that much to do with Anne.
I thought the Tudors series had an interesting take. Chapuys was bowing to Jane Seymour, who was behind Anne. She was already rumored to replace queen Anne.
Perhaps, it was not Henry, but a desperate last attempt by the Boleyn faction to have Anne recognized as rightful "Queen", specially as they knew she was never popular and her influence over the Henry was decreasing rapidly, however, nobody expected him to discard her in such as quick and ruthless manner
Amazing he was allowed to dodge it so long
@@matthewgilmore4307 Back then, the most powerful power and king was Charles V, Henry was always trying to be on his good graces and never attempted war with him, it would have been suicide, so it seems reasonable that Chapuys was left to his own devices
I'm so used to hearing about any Spanish person in/around/dealing with the Tudor court as the antagonist or enemy, so it's interesting getting a neutral view of them. I'd love to hear more from other countries perspectives. 🇪🇸 🕵️♂️
Here's an attempt at an emoji: __🚶♂__ Chapuys had to walk a very fine line as an ambassador at Henry VIII's court!
Thank you for this episode! I have always found Chapuys to be a fascinating man. I was happy to hear that he started a school in his retirement.
Brilliant as always. Chapuys’ letters have definitely added to historians’ knowledge of this period of history. Truly a fascinating man 📝
I didn't know that Henry was already looking to rid himself of Anne basically the instant Elizabeth was born. I should have guessed because Henry was literally an overgrown toddler during his entire reign. But that specific detail from Chapuys literally only proves Anne's innocence. If there's a Hell, Henry is undoubtedly burning in it
One can always hope...
Or did someone simply want Chapuys to think that’s what Henry had in mind? 🤷🏻♀️
@ReadingthePast given what we know about Henry, I can only imagine him having actually said that 😅
My personal theory is that Henry engineered that meeting between Chapuys and Anne as 1) a way of lulling Anne into thinking she was still valued and her status was safe and 2) petty revenge at Chapuys for irritating Henry for so long by not acknowledging Anne's status. Or it could just as easily have been for some other reason altogether.
People who find themselves near someone famous enjoy the benefits of being in the company of the powerful. Some of those may realize that their name may go down in history because of that. I wonder if Chapuys would have imagined he would still be talked about in 2023. Thank you for an informative video. 👍👨🏼🎓
I have heard theories that posit that Henry would still have been backing Anne as late as April 18, because, as this theory has it, she was again pregnant, and Cromwell had not yet told Henry about Anne’s « infidelity. »
Anne was in favour of Henry strengthening ties with France, and so it would have been important to demonstrate that Anne, and any future children she might bear, were wholly in the king’s good graces. Chapuys doing homage to Anne would demonstrate her power.
Of course, once Cromwell got Henry to believe the stories of Anne’s treachery, Henry was willing to abandon Anne completely, as well as any (possibly illegitimate) child she might be carrying! ⚔️
Oh, if Anne had been pregnant, that would have saved her. What doomed her was a miscarriage she had about the same time Catherine of Aragon died, in January 1536. The pregnancy was advance enough for them to tell it was a son. This was Anne's death knell.
I see Chapuys as intellectually very shrewd and loyal to his master Charles V, as well as Queen Catherine and Princess Mary, but also wily and highly skilled at recognising courtly disinformation. His interactions with Cromwell in Hilary Mantel's books are most entertaining: two masters of European politics, diplomacy and dissembling enjoying social fencing games. I assume she based them on primary sources. 🦊🦊🦊
Excellent video, Dr Kat. He and Cromwell shared many traits and I'm sure they were friendly. Those two gossiped and placed spies in households and knew the other held the great secrets of their bosses. Match made.
Yes, even in my rural farming community old men are the biggest gossips.😅
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A fascinating man who led a fascinating life. Perfect for a historical drama series, yes?
I agree 🙌
As someone who once worked for a diplomat, I loved this portrait of someone who was played a small but influential role in Henry’s Great Matter. Thank you for this ❤
You're an absolute dote by explaining how to gain access to Chapuys' papers. I am very happy to listen to a video of such an historical figure. There are few ambassadors in history who have such prominence.
🐋: hugely important and a father figure to Mary.
PS: purple is a wonderful colour on you. What a Tudor colour! 😎
Edit: Suggestion for a future video-Henry IV of France.
🎉. Hurray! He completed the game without being killed for his efforts.
I'm glad I had nothing in my mouth when you said the Concubine. Similar word, same sound, four letters -- bad, bad cussword. Even his cleaner references are delicately veiled references to her being -- unsuitable.
Interesting how fast Henry snapped back from that after his disappointment. No "she's young, we'll try again next year."
That meeting with her was interesting. I wonder if people were watching to see his reaction to seeing her so that they might know if he needed to be killed as well.
Glad he made it out alive. It's a nervous game, this Tudor business. Very dangerous, no one is safe.
If you mean that Chapuys might have been at risk of being killed (like every other person at Henry's court, or so it seems), wouldn't the worst risk he would have faced been to be kicked out of England and sent back to Spain since he was an ambassador rather than one of Henry's subjects?
he probably had diplomatic immunity, so as he is not a subject of Henry the 8th he wouldn't be killed, would cause war.
Dr. de Puebla, ambassador of Isabella and Ferdinand during the time of Henry VII would be interesting. We love all your segments.
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You are absolutely my favorite history channel. Instead of regurgitating the usual snippets of history, you dive into the lesser known characters. While lesser known as compared to someone like Henry VIII, Chapuys actually provided us with so much of the information we have about the Tudor court today. Your in depth analysis actually helps us understand the motivations and backgrounds of these interesting characters, transforming them from two dimensional figures to real people.
You are very kind, thank you for these lovely words 🥰
Chapuy was obviously a highly intelligent and socially intelligent scholar and diplomat. He was extremely valuable to his master and the queen and Mary, whether they realized it or not. Being able to chum around with Cromwell was probably his most impressive feat.🤴👸👸👸👸👸👸
I love all your videos and the English/British history I am learning! (American here, who's mother was obsessed with British history and passed on her love of it to me!) Thank you so much for all your research and sharing
One tiny request (don't know why my obsessive compulsive self needs this info...) but when you give a death date on a person, can you also give their age - or approximated age- as well. It seems that the "retired" Chapuy died well after his paid service and I find that interesting. So often, the people you teach us about die right after they retire or majorly screw up. I guess as I grow increasingly older (age 69) it adds context and I identify with their life's length and work.
I can give age or approx age a death in my videos. Thank you for letting me know that you would find that helpful 😊
Google tells me Chapuys was 67 when he died...
@@renastone9355 Google has picked a year for his birth, but we don’t know for sure. A span of over a decade has been suggested 🤷🏻♀️
Very excited about this one, Dr. Kat! I actually visited the town where Chapuys was born in France, Annecy. I was there before I knew that it was his birthplace. So interested in learning more about what he saw, and what he knew! I've loved so many of your videos but I have a feeling that this one about Chapuys is going to be my favorite! Thank you ahead of time!
Annecy was the cradle of the house of Savoy that ruled Italy until 1946 - having changed their capital to Turin. It was where the famous shroud of Turin was housed before also being transferred to Turin. The kingdom of Piedmont-Sardinia gave Savoy and also the city of Nice to France in return for an alliance against Austria and the promised expulsion of that empire from Italy.
@@kaloarepo288 Fascinating! Thank you for this additional information about Annecy, none of which I knew before reading your comment.
Eeeeek thanks so much for this Dr Kat! Chapuys is one of my favourite characters at the Tudor court, he livened up history A-Level no end with his delightfully pithy observations 😂 I was touched by his going to see Queen Katherine before her death, I hope it eased her last days to have a staunch ally and well-wisher there.
Also on your point about historiography - Chapuys was one of our key sources for that discussion at school, set opposite Polydore Virgil!
What’s history A-level? Asking for an American lol
A-level is short for "Advanced" level, they are exams kids in the UK take in their last year of school - you choose three subjects to study at that level, and drop everything else, which allowed me to avoid studying advanced maths 😅
I have heard the man's name (and read it) many times in regards to the court of Henry VIII. I did not know much about him other than his support to Catherine of Aragon. Now I'm more interesting in learning about him. Thank you! ✍📃🧑🏫
A fascinating account of a fascinating figure at the Tudor court! Brava, Dr Kat!
I have always been fascinated by Chapuys. Until this video I did not know much about the latter years of his life. I was glad to hear that he "paid it forward" to try to help other bright young men succeed. 📚🕯
I love that his letters feel like they're written from the outside looking in on the activity. Like a fly on a wall.
As usual Dr. Kat, a thoughtful video that makes me want to research more. 📝
His letters are a treasure trove of information of this particular time frame. Every single book I've read about Tudor England, his letters are utilized as a source.
As always, dear Dr.Kat thank you for such a fascinating and educational video. Can't wait for the next video.
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I have heard you mention Chapuys many times. I am so grateful for an actual overview of his involvement in Tudor England’s various intrigues. Thank you Dr. Kat!
Thank you, Dr. Kat, for another posting. I have wanted to learn more about Dr. Chapuys.
I adored Eustace Chapuys in the Tudors, he was one of my favorites. I don’t know how much this was dramatized, as will happen in tv and movies, but I always loved how supportive he was of Mary. He was her staunchest ally and seemed to be a true father figure which she so desperately needed after all her actual father put her through
🏰⛵️⚖️🛡Important figure rarely covered . I’m impressed by his longevity at a court where so many fell.
Well done! Extremely excellent introduction to the whole man. It is so nice to see Chapuys lited out of the footnotes and placed into the story. 💯
Thanks Dr. Kat!! Always enjoy your videos and especially this one on Chapuys. I never thought that about how uncovering information could be a battle between the reporter and the one who's being reported on. The 15th Century take on media spin teams🤔
Thanks again and Happy Christmas to you and your family!
Excellent presentation of an important and sometimes overlooked individual. I've always found the relationship between Cromwell and Chapuys fascinating. I love the way it was portrayed in Wolf Hall.
Having been a huge fan of Anne Boleyn and her daughter for so long, I've come to think of Eustace Chapuys as an outright villain. Thank you for rounding out the historical man so that he has become more human. I love that he caused a college to be founded before he died.
I love Anne but I can see her many faults and she wasn't a really nice person, but she was Queen so of course she thought her elf a bit up their
Hilary Mantel’s version of the relationship between Cromwell and Chapuys is fascinating.
Another very interesting video - thank you so much for all of the effort you put into producing these for us. I always look forward to learning from you. ✍ And I believe your young son will be enjoying a birthday soon - hope he has a lovely time!🎂🧁
I've always had a fondness for Chapuys because of the wealth of information he's given us in his correspondence, and what great information because of his wonderfully gossipy self. But I love him even more now having learned of the musical trauma he inflicted on those guarding Catherine of Aragon! As a harpist, I really hope there was a large-soundboxed, horribly out of tune harp amid the minstrels.
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What an extraordinary man! It is a treasure to have his letters as a primary source for research.
📖📓📚📔I've been fascinated by the lives of the lesser known characters of the early modern era. It's clear that Chapuys earned his status with education being the primary stanchon of his personal and professional construct. One so educated can choose two courses: one, to stagnate and find work comparable to that of a bean counter or second, as Chapuys did, continue to learn, explore and put his education to its fullest use. It helped, no doubt, to have a certain measure of guile added to his considerable skills to be so able a representative in a court where perspicuousness was the accepted norm. I prefer the company of the latter and essay to follow such a course of endless curiosity and search for learning.
Oh, YEAH. But of course! The one person who had his ears to everything Katherine and Henry. Oh. My. This is gonna be great! 🎉
I always thank Chapuys for being such an excellent source of information; we know so much due to his correspondence and without it we would be much more in the dark about this time period. I like to refer to him as the Tudor town gossip 😂😂
Yay!❤ I’m number 50 on the like button. Now, to settle back with my coffee and enjoy another unique and extraordinary presentation by Dr Kat. Dr. Kat is my absolutely favorite historian and educator!! 👑
Cromwell and Chapuys being friends seems like a match made in heaven (or hell), those 2 had so much information, they were in a powerful and priviledge position in their societies and they knew it, so off course they were besties, in their own sneaky way, i wish i could have seen all their secret schemes and banter, best medieval bromance!
🛡✉️📚 Thank you very much not only for the video on a fascinating diplomat, but also for sharing how you go about the research and how it might be accessible to your audience. As for the social glyphs I chose, I often think of diplomats as a first line of defence, hence the shield, the letter is self explanatory, I think, and the books for Chapuys vast knowledge and love for learning.
Interesting blog. It's amazing to see that history of one country can be found in another.🏰📜⏳
Eustace had eyes 👀 and ears 👂 everywhere knowledge is power especially if your playing diplomatic chess ♟️
What a fascinating man! And how fortunate for us that he left such a huge cache of resources for us to devour. Xx
🔎📝📖 so wonderful how you bring these historical figures to light . Brilliant!
that was probably one of the better commercial transitions I've come across before.
Have seen enough Tudor content where his name comes up to be glad I am hearing about the man himself.
Chapuys sounds like a fascinating person. Being at court could be dangerous and he rarely held back. 🤴🇬🇧
I really enjoyed this - I thought of Chapuys as a provider of useful and interesting historical information - it was good to be introduced to the person behind the information. 📃
Thank you! One of my favourite Tudor characters! I wonder why, if he thought Anne was innocent, he began to refer to her as The Concubine?
Thoughts?
Because he didn’t consider her marriage to Henry legal. Therefore, she’d be his mistress.
Another interesting topic and as always well delivered. I was surprised how well he and Cromwell got ,it must have been sad to return to England just before his execution . What a tipsy turvy world they lived in
It's possible that the meeting was arranged to keep Anne and Eustace thinking all is well.
✨️ Best i could think of for an emoji since he was a star of his profession.
NEVER boring & eternally interesting! HH is gripping... I just love it! Thank you to ALL of the team in front & behind the 📽 🎞 🎬 👏🏽👏🏽😊👍🏽📖📚
Impressive that he survived such a complicated position in such a toxic court. That alone shows he was above average in cleverness and caution. 🧠
Thanks for this! You and so many other historians use his letters and writings as sources for the Tudor court so often, it’s good to hear more about the man himself. Did he ever marry or have children?
Love your channel and Eustace is one of my favourites! 🎉❤
This was great: I've heard this name Eustace Chapuys so much in so many docos on the Tudors, thanks for delving into the man & the machinations he was witness to- could watch a whole documentary on this guy's life!
I want a statue of Chapuys somewhere near a Tudor place like Hampton Court. We know so much because of his work.
Chapuys sounds like an intelligent and thoughtful man. Very interesting how his missives have been misinterpreted.🤔
😊I‘m interested in Chapuys - will now search for a biography.
I am enjoying you channel immensely. I love British history.
Looking forward to this because I hate this man because of his hate towards Anne Boleyn.
Maybe Dr. Kat will have something that could change my view of him! 🤷🏻
But I believe even he said that the allegations Henry made against her were ridiculous.
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I haven't watched the video yet. I hope D. Kat mentioned something like that in the video.
I like him for his loyalty to Katharine of Aragon.
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I do too. I grant him that.
He lived long enough to see Mary on the throne...that must have pleased him...
Unrelated to the topic, but I do appreciate the “Ritual Purposes” candle. 😉
🍀 because to live a long life being that well connected to royalty during this period always makes me think about how lucky they have been!
I love Dan Jones Docs❤😊
📝🖊️🗞️📚First an explanation for emojis chosen, Books- because he was a scholar, Letters- for his writing on the matters &comings & goings at the Tudor court.
Thank you for this video because I really admire Chapuys. It must have been a dangerous position to be but he did so. I’m sure his communications with Cromwell were amiable & must have eased the stress of court. I think they were very alike.
This was a fascinating video! Thank you! A broader picture of events in the Tudor court is presented when seen through the eyes of an "observer". And while Chapuys has his bias, I think he had less to lose by upsetting Henry (his head for example 😅). It is interesting to read his reports prior to the death of Katherine and afterwards. Great video!
How interesting. I've never heard of Chapuys, but now I want to learn more about him. Thank you!
I am so happy I have the day off to see you Dr. Kat. I love your presentations.
He made such a great contribution to our understanding of the Tutor court through his writing. He sounds to be a good man. ❤
Thank you so much, yet another fantastic presentation. I am sure you have a lot more info to share with us about the Ambassador Chapyus, maybe you could produce a follow up with more details. Chapyus it seems was a well rounded person, I was under the impression that he was very disrespectful in his correspondence to Queen Ann, but you dispelled that impression and now I will see him in a different light, more positive and constructive.
👨🎓🕸🎭 A scholar, a web of information and spies, and masks. Both by wearing a mask, and deciphering the masks of everyone else. I think that sums up Eustace Chapuys as an ambassador. Great video as always Dr Kat 😊
Interesting to think what might've happened to Mary I if Chapuys didn't trick her into signing her submission. In Wolf Hall, I think they showed her being persuaded to sign it. With regards to why the meeting between Chapuys & Boleyn was orchestrated, I tend to agree with the reason provided in Wolf Hall. (that Henry couldn't or wouldn't get rid of her without her being officially acknowledged by the Imperial Ambassador) He was the 👀👂👄 in the 🏰 Thanks, Dr. Kat.
Fantastic topic. Loved this! Chapuys was always so interesting to me.
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What a political game he lived through amazing that he managed to survive.
He was an utter genius. 🐱
Okay, I recently rewatched Tudors and I know it is historical fiction, but I did like Chapuys as a character in it. His relationship with Lady Mary/ Princess Mary was interesting.
😊 Thank You!
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🕵thanks Dr Kat. one of the most interesting men of the era.
Thank you 😊🎉
What a fascinating character!
So glad you did this, thank you❤
Love this! Thank you!!
Fascinating, thank you.
Excellent video!!
Fascinating as always. Thank you.
Good work!
Great topic. Thanks.
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What an amazing life. He had a front row seat to all of the goings on in the Tudor court. Is there a novel ( historically accurate) from Chapuy’s point of view?
Yeesssssss!!!! I have been waiting for you to do a video on Chapuys! By the way you look absolutely stunning lately Dr. Kate!