Well the similarities are eerie. They're both military juntas disguised as democracies just like Pakistan or Egypt except in Thailand the military is allied with the monarchy.
Why are their military seems to move like an independent entity from their government. Isn't the military supposed to be part of the government or something? As I see it the military is like the rebels disguised as the military. How could this happen. Guess not all countries function the same way I guess.
@@gr8life12 the similarities are not coincidence: Both Prayut Chan-o-cha and Min Aung Hlaing has ties with Prem Tinsulanonda, an influential army commander.
IMPORTANT NOTE: This result came from a joint sitting of the House of Representatives and the Senate. If we were to exclude the Senate from the results (as should be the case in a functioning parliamentary democracy), the Move Forward Party (MFP) would have received a significant outright majority, with 311 out of 500 MPs voting in favour of Pita. For this reason, the MFP is now planning to introduce a bill to amend the Constitution to revoke the temporary clause that gives the Senate power over electing a new Prime Minister. While it may seem far-fetched to expect such a bill to pass, introducing a little context may explain why the MFP has made this move. Although what happened was in practice a Senate veto against Pita’s rise to premiership, most Senators actually did not vote at all. Instead, most chose to abstain, taking advantage of the electoral rule which requires an absolute majority (more than half of all MPs and Senators combined) for a prime ministerial designate to be approved. Since the senators were actively employed as MPs, they still counted towards the total and thus still counted towards the minimum number of votes needed to win an absolute majority. This meant that any abstentions could effectively amount to “Noes”, while also providing the convenient excuse of “simply not wanting to get involved with lower house affairs.” As many as 159 Senators out of 250 abstained, using this obviously fallacious argument as their justification. As a result, by proposing this constitutional amendment, the MFP is essentially asking these 159 Senators to put their money where their mouth is by removing themselves from the equation. This move hands a simple yet difficult dilemma over for senators to decide: sacrifice dignity and legitimacy (which many of them are still seen to have by significant parts of the public, as crazy as it may sound) for power, or concede the Prime Minister’s role to the MFP. Whatever happens, the MFP gains something - whether that is respect for trying to maintain accountability or the premiership itself. There is still some hope left that Thailand will overcome this detour and back onto a democratic path.
No. There ALWAYS needs to be freedom of speech. If you don't like someone, that's your opinion. No one needs to be free from criticism by laws. That is just being a p*ssy.
The son didn't make that law. That law has been in place for centuries. If his father was so great the father should have remove that silly law himself and yet he didn't. His father believed in that law and many served long sentences due to that silly law. His father could have pardoned the peopled or not even charge the people in the fist place and get rid of that silly law. Double standard you guys only call out the son but not the more beloved father.
Governments never respected people they only understand fear. They don't fear the Thai people that is the problem. Another thing is foreign governments like the US and the UN itself must call it out and put pressure on the Thai government that they need to get their act together or no country will do business with them.
My Thai wife is sick of Thai politics as she was so hopeful for the orange movement. There was a large protest in the streets earlier... the stage is setting for violence and another coup. And people are trying to leave again.
And still - so many people chose to go on vacation in Thailand and boosting the profits of the military who owns many, many companies. All these turists are in effect supporting a military junta.
As someone how is living in Thailand for years now. Democracy replacing Thai Monarchy will only introduce utter chaos and possibly becoming Myanmar 2.0. The problem in Thailand right now is power imbalance. The military is the one that controls the state. The monarchy is dysfunctional and drowned in euphoria. And the people are disillusioned by sweet talk of democracy.
The old power bloc, conservatives, has made the progressive party the top vote-getter. must become the opposition It's really embarrassing, Thai politics. Damn it.
Thailand's has a democracy? I always thought they were a monarchy state thinly veiled by false pretences of democracy? Am I wrong in assuming this? Why do they then have pics of their monarchs everywhere?
Absolute Monarchy should have been kept in place. Monarchy requires the trust of the people to survive. The Current paliarment system requires distrust in the othet party to survive.
@@Chrom420 in thailand, if you by any mean hint at the reduction of monarchy power. you set the entire world on fire. Rama 10th probably grew up expecting the parliament system to do all the work for him. It doesn't seem like he learnt much from his father. as his father basically did all the work while the parliament was busy arguing with each other, and keeping money for themselves.
@@atom1236 If that's the case then it wouldn't have been able to change to constitutional monarchy in the first place. Elected parliament might sucks for some people but if it work as it should those people the corrupt would have been voted out or not elected again and you are supposed to be able to punish them, meanwhile all of the absolute monarchies that exist today are backward countries and the ones that are able develops at all are oil-rich countries who also have been wasting money on impractical projects- and when they do something like this or even if they become more corrupt than elected people(which they tends to be) there would be nothing you can do.
Guess what? The currect prime minister of the ruling party who opposes the MFP went to BlackRock CEO and Klaus Schwab smiling in just a few months after 'election'. He also happens to be an owner of a large real estate company in Thailand, coincidences?
Because the Monarchy kept the country together from being colonized by Westerners? While it may be disfunctional now, as someone who has been in Thailand. I would rather fix the monarchic system to adapt to modern ways than shoehorn Democracy that will never work.
@@GrgLuz it's not like democracy worked for them anyway, or anyone ever lmao it's always the flashiest most funded dude that wins and guess who decides that? not a government that might have a slight interest in making the country livable but big companies wanting to sell stuff that should be illegal (ಡ‿ಡ)
@@osheridan Actually on average elected heads of state spend way more. In fact the British crown is a net contributer to the state. Im sure you care very deeply about Trump and Biden and how much money they waste. Nope. If the person wears a crown in your view. Every dollar should be multiplied by ten or something. I wish you republicans were always this fiscally responsible
Based, reject the ideologically rotten west and autocratically oppose the global banking system, surely this won’t devolve to either Islamic theocracy or communism
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I really hope we're not going to watch Thailand become Myanmar 2.0
Well the similarities are eerie. They're both military juntas disguised as democracies just like Pakistan or Egypt except in Thailand the military is allied with the monarchy.
With the junta moving towards China that's a real possibility.
Why are their military seems to move like an independent entity from their government. Isn't the military supposed to be part of the government or something? As I see it the military is like the rebels disguised as the military. How could this happen. Guess not all countries function the same way I guess.
@@gr8life12 the similarities are not coincidence: Both Prayut Chan-o-cha and Min Aung Hlaing has ties with Prem Tinsulanonda, an influential army commander.
Cope
WTF.. Military appointed senators?😂😂😂😂😂
Sounds like a coup in the making
Who do you think selects your senators now? Hint: Voters only choose from preselected candidates.
It's largely due to the intense military boundaries near Thailand with the USA and China. Gives militarists a great way to sneak into power
@@paulpratt Our senators are elected by the people along with the members of the Sejm. The most recent Sejm/Senat election was 2 months ago.
@@galaxypl7756😂ok bud. Whatever makes you sleep at night
IMPORTANT NOTE: This result came from a joint sitting of the House of Representatives and the Senate. If we were to exclude the Senate from the results (as should be the case in a functioning parliamentary democracy), the Move Forward Party (MFP) would have received a significant outright majority, with 311 out of 500 MPs voting in favour of Pita. For this reason, the MFP is now planning to introduce a bill to amend the Constitution to revoke the temporary clause that gives the Senate power over electing a new Prime Minister. While it may seem far-fetched to expect such a bill to pass, introducing a little context may explain why the MFP has made this move.
Although what happened was in practice a Senate veto against Pita’s rise to premiership, most Senators actually did not vote at all. Instead, most chose to abstain, taking advantage of the electoral rule which requires an absolute majority (more than half of all MPs and Senators combined) for a prime ministerial designate to be approved. Since the senators were actively employed as MPs, they still counted towards the total and thus still counted towards the minimum number of votes needed to win an absolute majority. This meant that any abstentions could effectively amount to “Noes”, while also providing the convenient excuse of “simply not wanting to get involved with lower house affairs.” As many as 159 Senators out of 250 abstained, using this obviously fallacious argument as their justification.
As a result, by proposing this constitutional amendment, the MFP is essentially asking these 159 Senators to put their money where their mouth is by removing themselves from the equation. This move hands a simple yet difficult dilemma over for senators to decide: sacrifice dignity and legitimacy (which many of them are still seen to have by significant parts of the public, as crazy as it may sound) for power, or concede the Prime Minister’s role to the MFP. Whatever happens, the MFP gains something - whether that is respect for trying to maintain accountability or the premiership itself.
There is still some hope left that Thailand will overcome this detour and back onto a democratic path.
Best wishes from Germany!
best wishes that you can get through this madness from the uk
Best wishes and prayers from the United States
Thankyou for writing this, it's incredibly informative for an outsider like me.
Wait, can’t he just amend the part where Senators are equivalent to MPs thus making them not part of the decision makers?
The thing here is the military are essentially double counted, they get the 250 senators and they still have the vote for the parliament
If their king was a decent human being (like his father was), there would be no need for laws against insulting the king.
No. There ALWAYS needs to be freedom of speech. If you don't like someone, that's your opinion. No one needs to be free from criticism by laws. That is just being a p*ssy.
I’m telling the police
thats exactly why you need laws numbnuts
The son didn't make that law. That law has been in place for centuries. If his father was so great the father should have remove that silly law himself and yet he didn't. His father believed in that law and many served long sentences due to that silly law. His father could have pardoned the peopled or not even charge the people in the fist place and get rid of that silly law. Double standard you guys only call out the son but not the more beloved father.
The father that killed his own brother for the throne?
Thai elites, army and monarchy should respect Thai common people choice.
More power and hail common people.
Governments never respected people they only understand fear. They don't fear the Thai people that is the problem. Another thing is foreign governments like the US and the UN itself must call it out and put pressure on the Thai government that they need to get their act together or no country will do business with them.
Progressivism is a cancer that destroys countries. The West has been overrun by progressivism and it's destroying us. Don't make the same mistake.
@@iggyzeta9755😂 Ragebait
Why they hell does military appoint leaders to thailand , I hope he can get the support he needed
It seems Thailand has turned into a Shogunate. The monarchy doesn't have as much power as the military.
2014 coup happened
My Thai wife is sick of Thai politics as she was so hopeful for the orange movement. There was a large protest in the streets earlier... the stage is setting for violence and another coup. And people are trying to leave again.
Who's voice is this?
The military having 250 Senators is crazy
The French have a very good approach to deal with monarchs.
As a Thai its a very big problem here
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@@leo-messi61what?
@@teartime592 eat dogs 😂😂
@@leo-messi61 that chinese tho...
@@teartime592 no it is common in tailand 💩
The world is watching, old guard. Let him take office, or Myanmar like corruption of military dictatorship.
Didnt even get a chance to try again before getting forces out of the parliament. That was a sad day.
Only now I noticed that the Thai flag is just two Dutch flags joined at the bottom.
And still - so many people chose to go on vacation in Thailand and boosting the profits of the military who owns many, many companies. All these turists are in effect supporting a military junta.
I can't believe no-one saw this coming..
I think everyone saw it coming, tbh
Dude has a contant voice crack
GUESS which side the US supports. The result MAY NOT surprise you.
This has been going on for years
As someone how is living in Thailand for years now. Democracy replacing Thai Monarchy will only introduce utter chaos and possibly becoming Myanmar 2.0. The problem in Thailand right now is power imbalance. The military is the one that controls the state. The monarchy is dysfunctional and drowned in euphoria. And the people are disillusioned by sweet talk of democracy.
If I had a nickle for every time Thai democracy was in an oopsie moment I'd have a lot of nickles
Pita griffin
I really hope he doesn't mysteriously disappear
This is the second time the military has done this.
They barely had a democracy
This feels quite 1930s Japan
Better get the king on lockdown! Constitutional monarchy if he wants to keep his throne!
Sadly, evil people have power even if they are just a few, and this on many places on the world.
If only Britain would get rid of their speech laws.
The old power bloc, conservatives, has made the progressive party the top vote-getter. must become the opposition It's really embarrassing, Thai politics. Damn it.
Well just shows you if you have a king Mos likely they still make the rules
So are they a democracy or not 🤔?
The guy kissing the gun
Pretty rude to label them progressives when we’ve seen what progressivism has got us here in America
To anyone freaking out. This is nothing new and happens every so often in Thailand.
Thailand's has a democracy? I always thought they were a monarchy state thinly veiled by false pretences of democracy? Am I wrong in assuming this? Why do they then have pics of their monarchs everywhere?
Let's goooo!!
I don't like the recent change in narrators lol
Absolute Monarchy should have been kept in place. Monarchy requires the trust of the people to survive. The Current paliarment system requires distrust in the othet party to survive.
Demanding Absolute Monarchy in 21st century is crazy
@@Chrom420 in thailand, if you by any mean hint at the reduction of monarchy power. you set the entire world on fire.
Rama 10th probably grew up expecting the parliament system to do all the work for him. It doesn't seem like he learnt much from his father. as his father basically did all the work while the parliament was busy arguing with each other, and keeping money for themselves.
@@atom1236 If that's the case then it wouldn't have been able to change to constitutional monarchy in the first place.
Elected parliament might sucks for some people but if it work as it should those people the corrupt would have been voted out or not elected again and you are supposed to be able to punish them, meanwhile all of the absolute monarchies that exist today are backward countries and the ones that are able develops at all are oil-rich countries who also have been wasting money on impractical projects- and when they do something like this or even if they become more corrupt than elected people(which they tends to be) there would be nothing you can do.
Democratic? Thailand?
LOL
AI voice?
I support the king of thailand and the monarchy
“I like licking boots”.
Why?
@@BRUH-lx3jvthere are like 5 real monarchies left in the whole world, it would be sad if they're replaced with nerds wearing suits and ties
Move Forward is a WEF creation.
😂
More like a product of US Endowment for Democracy. What that would be called is an attempt to gain a puppet state.
Guess what? The currect prime minister of the ruling party who opposes the MFP went to BlackRock CEO and Klaus Schwab smiling in just a few months after 'election'. He also happens to be an owner of a large real estate company in Thailand, coincidences?
This is ridiculous, why do some countries have monarchies still?
Because they haven't been removed yet, often because western governments try to destroy movements for liberation.
The Thai Monarchy kept the country together and not colonized? Learn to history.
I'm not talking about Thailand but in some countries monarchy works better than a republic.
Because the Monarchy kept the country together from being colonized by Westerners? While it may be disfunctional now, as someone who has been in Thailand. I would rather fix the monarchic system to adapt to modern ways than shoehorn Democracy that will never work.
Do you want the world to be ruled by people wearing suits and ties?
I support the monarchy
Ok this is literally the good guys vs the bad guys now
As a foreigner you should not meddle in Thai politics, it's their country and they can make laws and govern any way they want.
This is no way shape or from of meddling it's called journalism
@@jayhardline7557I bet he's Thai, not foreigner.😂 Thais lie a lot on the Internet.
I will meddle all that I can, and there is nothing you can do to stop me.
@@JanBruunAndersen stay out of my country if I find out who you are you'll be sorry
@@TC.....Shiver me timbers, thats some jolly good arguments there mate, shant you take a little break aye
Good, democracy is abhorrent
Down with democracy. up with the king!
Go back to bed, kid. Mommas calling you.
@@GrgLuz it's not like democracy worked for them anyway, or anyone ever lmao it's always the flashiest most funded dude that wins and guess who decides that? not a government that might have a slight interest in making the country livable but big companies wanting to sell stuff that should be illegal (ಡ‿ಡ)
@@3mar00ss6And a total monarchy will have absolutely none of that wealth-flashing or careless power. Source: I made it up
You know, if it was his father that was still ruling, no one would be complaining that hard.
@@osheridan Actually on average elected heads of state spend way more. In fact the British crown is a net contributer to the state. Im sure you care very deeply about Trump and Biden and how much money they waste. Nope. If the person wears a crown in your view. Every dollar should be multiplied by ten or something.
I wish you republicans were always this fiscally responsible
I’m sick of democracy. We need to return to authoritarian paternalism
Based, reject the ideologically rotten west and autocratically oppose the global banking system, surely this won’t devolve to either Islamic theocracy or communism
I see you ain't Thai...
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYING MANN