Of the 2 I've owned over the past 15 years, the Tundra issue I have and believe they are very few, is brakes! 11.5" disks wear out quickly, I changed on my 2009 over 12 years of owning it at least 5 times or more!
My 07 5.7 Tundra 4x4 did a great job towing our 35' TT BHDB over the Rockies. The TT plus a bed full of tools weighed alot. Put BFG all Terrains on it and never stopped............Really pulled well!! Dont tell a GM guy that, they will cry!!!!!
A prime example of just because it can doesn’t mean you should. I have always said that I’m not worried about me, my setup, and my skill. It’s everyone else I have to look out for, like the folks out there pushing things to the limits. I have been caught in numerous adverse conditions that if I was in anything less than of a 1 ton truck things may have ended much differently.
Thanks for sharing! ...We have the same truck, same trailer (both just a bit older, 4 & 7yrs respectively), similar air bags (although ours are tied together with an onboard compressor and a wireless remote), very similar sliding hitch - ~10 years in and it still tows very well.
Tundra is an excellent tow vehicle. Especially those from 2021 and prior. Not so much a fan of the 2022s and newer, but that is another story. continued safe travels....
I have the same Tundra. I commend you on you staying on the HIGHWAYS & not on the INTERSTATE. I do the same thing & try to stay on U.S.1. I see a lot of dangerous situations on I-95 due to snowbirds & their campers. Everything from impeding traffic because they can't do interstate speeds of 70+ M.P.H., to wrecks from not having the trailer ballasted correctly. Thanks for sharing, drive safe. 🤠🤠
No one is impeding traffic on an interstate freeway when they drive in right lane even at 55mph is fine because remember 70 75 or 80 is the maximum speed limit and often for trucks it is lowered and who says you are obligated to drive the maximum speed limit anyways. As long as you drive 55mph or more you are fine.
I’m struggling to tow my Jayco 263 RBS, I have a 2016 Tundra TRD with big V8, the empty weight is around 6500, tongue weight is around 700. I know a fifth wheel is going to pull better because the weight is over the axles. I can tow it but any rough roads and/or back roads I get a little squirrelly waddle in the back. I have a top of the line equalizer hitch, so in the process of lessoning the tension per the equalizer company to see if that helps. It was installed at the RV dealer, rechecked for proper setup too. I also tried airbags after watching a dozen videos of people seeming to cure their towing issues with them. It didn’t help my situation. I know a regular trailer and 5th wheel are night and day difference but thanks for the video and travel tips. I may not go over 55 mph, love your 150 miles a day, sounds perfect for us/me, with my bad low back.
While the debate rages over whether the trailer is too heavy for that truck, I can't help but think that if all drivers were as knowledgeable and careful as this guy, the highways would be safer.
Thanks for sharing! Answered a few questions I had. I am looking into a Gooseneck trailer or 5th wheel. This was well done, and thorough. Safe travels to you all!
I have a similar set up. Tundra with airbags and 1460lbs of payload matched with a Arctic Wolf 265DBH8 with 1340lbs pin weight. Not ideal, but legal. DOT scales in the northeast require that your actual gCvw is under your gCvwr. Meaning...Tundra gvwr 7100 + 5ver gvwr 9900 = combined weight rating of 17000. I always travel with empty tanks and minimal cargo, so I know I'm under 17k. Again not ideal. Not for newbs. It demands your full attention, but as he said it can be done. Philadelphia to Tampa Fl no problems! I do recommend adding a sway bar if you don't have one though.
Correct you can not go o ER your gvcw but you also can’t go over your payload capacity and that is your trailers pin weight also the hitch and any other object in the bed of the truck plus the weight of all the passengers in the truck so yes your trailer pin is under but you are probably 5-600 pounds over your payload when you include your hitch and everything else you carry and your self and anyone else so be aware that if anything unfortunate happens an insurance company can refuse to cover due to you being over weight on your truck
TBH I don't rely on insurance for anything, because they always try to find a way out. I just have it to be legal. I don't recommend 1/2 ton 5ver towing, but the video is about it being possible. I traveled from Philly to Bar harbor Maine recently, and the Tundras only problem was its MPGs.
@@Jtruthd I don’t rely on insurance but it is needed in case of a real problem major damage but I would never go over my payload there is a difference of capable and legal and legal is the right way
From what I read only 9 states require an RV to be weighed at a DOT scale if your over 10k lbs. I bet lot of people in RV's just drive by don't even realize it.
If you were to add 1 more leaf spring in the back it would ride nicely with that load. I can not believe it would be too hard if a ride if you were to drive empty all u would do is lower the tire pressure to 26 lbs or so and your tires would take up the suspension.
This guy is Waaaaaay Over his payload. He is not being “careful” unless he is only towing in a parking lot at 2 am with no others around. The only useful information is this info should never be duplicated.
I really hope you never get in an accident.towing that 5th wheel Even a fender bender. Because when the cops come And they find out your truck is a 1/2 ton. You will be at fault for the whole thing. Automatically. And I bet your insurance company will deny you coverage. Your pin weight alone is 2000 lbs. Not to mention your hitch and everything your carrying. Including passengers. Air bags don't increase your payload capacity. Please do yourself and your family a big favor. Not to mention everyone else on the road. Get a truck that's made for towing a 5th wheel. Also, your suspension isn't made for that application.
Well your obviously not a cop and Iam so that whole statement is BS. They only teach you weights and balances as faults in heavy vehicle operator course. Second no accident school tell you to judge what a 1/2 ton truck is pulling and any cop who thinks like that instead of using math is ignorant and uneducated. Tundras can pull some fith wheels and they do make quality light weight fith hitches. So educate your self before writing a message with false information.
Perfect video. Thank you... my question is this, we tundra owners have the pulling power, but with all your travels how is the stopping power?? Aside from the trailer brakes, have you done anything different to the truck brakes?? 😎🤙🏼
No, the brakes are stock. I did go with the ceramic pads, but only cause I didn’t like all the dust on the wheels. Trailer brakes or checked regularly.
I'm looking at a Cougar to pull with my 1/2 ton 5 1/2-foot bed. I have no problem with truck power and torque or weight capacity but will definitely need a slider. I would like to know if you are satisfied with your Cougar? The one I'm looking at is a 29' with unloaded weight at just under 7,000 lbs. I, like you, take it easy on the road and on my truck. I like to keep my load as light as possible for obvious reasons. Any comments would be appreciated.
I love my cougar. Now remember it’s just me and my dog. Once in a while I get a visitor but not too often. It tows very well and I keep really good tires on it. I really like the tight turn feature. If there’s anything I would change would be an airbag on the fifth wheel tongue. But that’s in the future.
Yes, a half ton can tow that trailer. That being said, all half ton trucks have too soft of a suspension in the rear. Absolutely upgrade the springs. I had an extra leaf to my truck right after I bought it. I hate a truck that squats when I tow. Also like this guy says, don't go too fast and leave lots of stopping room.
My 2014 one owner 80k miles came with that controller Tekonsha haven't used it yet but I'm surprised the farmer who owned the truck didn't take it out. I haven't really towed anything yet with my SR5, but I'm wanting to turn it into a truck camper with a topper only.
It’s not a question of can it do it . It’s should you do it? I cannot even begin to tell you how many times I’ve been held up in traffic on Rte. 93 N & S in NH because some idiot in a 1/2 ton was flipped over towing a camper that was way too heavy for his truck! I’ll stick to my 2021 F-350 thank you!
i’ve overloaded my truck sr5 loading cantaloupes and a few times watermelons i probably 1000 pounds a couple times and numerous times hundreds over how did i know i bought whole sale the scale was across the street. my truck i felt ran better with weight than empty. at 3 k my truck did run different but as expected … years later my counter parts have all needed new trannys they drove chevys
I have never pulled a fiver. I worry that I would lose to much truck bed storage. I put kayaks and bikes in there. Glad to see Sunny Peaches made the video. Nice job.
I love my 07 tundra and now im looking for another tundra to pull my 6x12 enclosed trailer with Lawn Care equipment. But im not sure if the 4.0,4.6 will do the work or should i stick with the 5.7
My first attempt was, I did install helper springs. But it Road horrible. So I removed the helper springs and only went with the stock springs and airbags. I run 35 psi in them now. I lighten up my camper a little bit taking out unnecessary items.
Looks like Tundra only has a payload of around 1730#’s. With approx 20% of your trailer weight of 10k #’s that would be a pin weight of a little less than 2000 #’s before you add 2 people (350 #’s) and stuff (100#’s?) in the truck + your mini-bike(200#’s). Yikes!. Manufacturers don’t attach 12’ high campers to vehicles blowing in the wind to obtain max tow capacity, they actually use flat bed trailers on driving courses. Airbags don’t add structural integrity to a vehicle, it’s still a 1/2 ton frame that is rated for 1730#’s. Any vehicle can tow most things, but will it stop it? Lawyers look for these types of set-ups after an accident. We are very conservative and our preference is never tow more than 60% of max allowable tow rating for reasons listed above. Just us. Our current set-up is RAM 2500 (payload 3300, max tow 14,700) with a 25’ 5th wheel max weight 7700 #’s. May be overkill, but safe. Best of luck to you and everyone on the road with you.
I'm interested in doing this with my 2015 tundra 1794. I am a little confused on the weights. My Toyota dealer says my model truck is USK56L-PSTZKA with a 1335 payload. So I think I understand that I need to account for all passengers, gear, hitch weight in the payload number. minus 10% brings me to about 9350 (9800 is the standard max weight for my configuration). So if I subtract the weight of people, gear and hitch lets say it is 600 lbs from the 1335 is 735. How do I know the weight of the trailer I can pull? just kind of confused with all the calculations
I tow a fifth wheel camper and a fifth wheel utility trailer with my 16000 lb dozer..but I'm a bit nuts..09 tundra 5.7ltr super charged 220000 miles..iv had no issues..
So are you still under the GWVR for the truck? Or would this fifth wheel and that payload with the tongue weight included put you over what it’s rated for safety wise?
Don’t know the details of this truck but if it was a 2012 Tundra outfitted properly it could have a max payload of 2000 lbs. To be able to hit those maximum towing and payload numbers typically trucks are the 2 door long box 2wd model. This trailer would likely have a 20% pin weight putting it at 1985 lbs. Assuming this was a model that could hit that 2000 lbs payload mark, passengers, 5th wheel hitch, and any additional cargo on the truck would put the truck over weight. Maxing out the tow vehicle to 100% isn’t a a huge deal if it’s max towing or max payload, but riding on both lines and pushing the tow vehicle to its maximum limit can lead to control and stability issues in adverse conditions. It’s a situation like this where I would recommend at least a 3/4 ton truck. Even then people need to watch the payload on 3/4 tons because this trailer could potentially put it over the max payload on some 3/4 tons (especially diesels).
So true! Yes, he is way over cargo capacity sitting motionless, forget the in motion weight. None of these 1/2 ton towables should be towed by a 1/2 ton. Tundra has dismal tow ratings. It’s more suited for a utility trailer to the dump or lumber yard, maybe a small TT. Manufacturers and sales are doing a big disservice to the public. They need to take a physics course. Eventually a smart law firm will figure this out and the lawsuits will start. @@R3lyc
@@edmundsmith7199 NEVER WOULD! A half ton is only a Light Duty truck. You can add springs, shocks, bump stops or whatever. It’s still a half ton frame and brakes. Can you tow it? Yes, but the question is can you stop it? All weights given are an RV sitting still in a parking lot. Big difference with the physics of weight in motion bouncing, chucking and pushing that Light Duty frame and brakes. That king pin is like a jack hammer with all that weight and force radiating down through the hitch, bed, frame and axels. Please look up the J2807 Tow Tests that auto manufacturers use to determine max tow and cargo weight. They set those max weights using a flat bed trailer for 11.3 miles on a course in AZ and they have to maintain 40 mph to the max of 65 mph. So your truck may have never been driven more than 40 mph to “pass” the test and obtain that max tow rating. They also have the option to complete the test on a computer simulator, so your truck may never have actually been driven to “pass” the test. BIG DIFFERENCE with a 12’ high RV whether people want to believe that or not. Here is a simple experiment: Take a 20 lb dumbbell and hold it with both hands out in front of you. (That is you holding your king pin motionless). Now have someone push forward/down-up, pull/push on it. Tell me if there is a difference and if you can remain in the same position without fatigue. You getting pushed around and fatigue is your truck in motion. Also, safe tow recommendations have always been to take any max rating and never exceed 75-80% of that value. It’s called margin of error and common sense.
@@edmundsmith7199 @edmundsmith7199 NEVER WOULD! A half ton is only a Light Duty truck. You can add springs, shocks, bump stops or whatever. It’s still a half ton frame and brakes. Can you tow it? Yes, but the question is can you stop it? All weights given are an RV sitting still in a parking lot. Big difference with the physics of weight in motion bouncing, chucking and pushing that Light Duty frame and brakes. That king pin is like a jack hammer with all that weight and force radiating down through the hitch, bed, frame and axels. Please look up the J2807 Tow Tests that auto manufacturers use to determine max tow and cargo weight. They set those max weights using a flat bed trailer for 11.3 miles on a course in AZ and they have to maintain 40 mph to the max of 65 mph. So your truck may have never been driven more than 40 mph to “pass” the test and obtain that max tow rating. They also have the option to complete the test on a computer simulator, so your truck may never have actually been driven to “pass” the test. BIG DIFFERENCE with a 12’ high RV whether people want to believe that or not. Here is a simple experiment: Take a 20 lb dumbbell and hold it with both hands out in front of you. (That is you holding your king pin motionless). Now have someone push forward/down-up, pull/push on it. Tell me if there is a difference and if you can remain in the same position without fatigue. You getting pushed around and fatigue is your truck in motion
It’s a Toyota with a 5.7 L gas engine. Unfortunately it has a very small gas tank only about 22 gallons. My average mileage for towing my camper is right around 10 mpg
@@thetravelingelk1155 That is not bad MPG and I installed the 38 gallon tank on mine. Mine is 2X4 with tow package. How much does the trailer weigh and what is the touge weight?
Trailer GVRW is 9000 pounds. As far as the tongue weight I’ve always wanted to take it to a truckstop and weigh it. But I haven’t gotten around to it. Like I mentioned I’ve towed it thousands of miles and I’ve never had an issue. But I don’t carry a lot of stuff in my fifth wheel either. I am a very minimalist when it comes to things I take with me. No rock collections here. Lol
With my bad luck, a slick lawyer could make me liable for some horrendous damage or loss of life, because I was 100 lbs. over my payload capacity.......even if the accident was completely unavoidable. That's just the kind of luck I have.
Traveling Elk Great Video....What's the pin weight on that 5th wheel....I have a GMC 1500 Sierra 5.3 4x4 looking to tow a 5th wheel also....Seen the Revealtuons 226 which is very light for a 5th wheel....Which Toyota do you have....Thanks
Another video I've watched says you can. But should you? No. It's stressing your tow vehicle without you knowing it until your chassis breaks. And he showed some photos of vehicles breaking in half.
10,000lb 5 th wheel has a tongue weight of approximately 2500 lbs. that’s twice the cargo capacity of the Tundra. Tow capacity means nothing. Very dangerous and illegal. Insurance and truck warranty will be null and void.
At 10k you have about 2k pin weight. You tundra has about 2k payload and i am being nice.. With fuel, the hitch and all the stuff in the back of the truck you are AT LEAST 1,500 overweight.
This is such a nuance question that I think the only responsible answer would be to do your own research on your own truck and trailer before deciding. As a trucker of 8 years I’ve seen plenty of friends either destroy their trucks transmission or suspension by trying to tow more than they can actually tow. Air ride is great, but you should def check your transmission oil and send it off to get examined to make sure nothing is slowly breaking over time.
Your like most people before social media started making such a big deal about weight. Now days have guys going to certified scales and using calculations. I bet if you asked people who are old enough did they ever take an RV to a certified scale the answer will be no. What we did was when the back-end dips too much you put overload springs on it. Forums, comments, FB they make these claims that if you wreck be liable. Show me one incident where that happened when it was overloaded with in reason. I'm not talking about the guy with the F350 towing a 50k lb boat down a grade in NV plowed into bunch of people. If you plow into bunch of cars cops might break out scales but use common sense, make sure you can stop brakes are good enough. Don't overload by 1000's of lbs use common sense. Don't drive fast like you said stay at 65 mph most of the time cars are passing you it always leaves room. Going down a steep grade put the flashers and go slow with the trucks to the right no need to rush. I think that is where people get into trouble with these high output diesels, they can get going really fast.
I have both a 5.7 tundra and a gmc 2500. The tundra is a half ton truck. A very good one but no where near what a 3/4 ton is. Everything is bigger on the 3/4.
@@Bostonharborwateragreed, I have a 2020 Tundra and an F250, the diesel is much better for towing and stability, the Tundra, while a great truck and extremely capable one at that, should never (in my opinion) attempt to tow above 8,000 lbs. it’s too close to the maximum. Towing that 5th wheel I’d install a transmission cooler also, the 2018 Tundra (I believe) was the last year to come with them.
@@XRakkgruntX Agreed on the weight. My boat is about 8000+/- on the trailer. While it does great, I would definitely want a bigger truck if it weighed any more. I added airbags and LT tires. It made quite the difference, I never tow it with the 2500 gmc I also have because that trucks for work and it’s always at MAX gvwr. Welder. Tools in the back. You’re also right about the tranny cooler. 2018 was the last year. I was pretty bummed out when I found out, But it’s been 5 years and I haven’t heard of anyone on the forums have any issues with the post 2018 trucks. So I stopped worrying about it. 🤣.
Cat got your tongue? No response to the effect that you are WAYYYY OVERRRR your Payload! Please STOP promoting this bad advice. Period! Anyone reading this, PLEASE don’t follow this guy’s advice.
I’ll have to add a live action towing this. I do have several videos with me driving my truck pulling a camper. Check out my channel and subscribe. Thank you very much and thank you for watching
According to him, "Yes, it can pull a fifth-wheel camper" based on his experienced as an owner of a Toyota Tundra truck and a fifth-wheel camper. No need to urgue what he is saying. Thanks for that info.
“Suggested payload” written by the manufacturer for liability reasons. Max payload does not mean failure point. If you really want to drill down, find the RBM spec, yield strength and tensile strength of the frame rails. That will tell you much more than the numbers on the door.
You will be in serious trouble if you wreck. Way over payload and not following specs for your truck. This is criminal on the roads…do research before you cost other people.
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Towing is not the problem it's what type of brakes you have on the trk to stop the load.
Of the 2 I've owned over the past 15 years, the Tundra issue I have and believe they are very few, is brakes!
11.5" disks wear out quickly, I changed on my 2009 over 12 years of owning it at least 5 times or more!
Key words here “Do your own research… I am not responsible.” 😂
My 07 5.7 Tundra 4x4 did a great job towing our 35' TT BHDB over the Rockies. The TT plus a bed full of tools weighed alot. Put BFG all Terrains on it and never stopped............Really pulled well!! Dont tell a GM guy that, they will cry!!!!!
A prime example of just because it can doesn’t mean you should. I have always said that I’m not worried about me, my setup, and my skill. It’s everyone else I have to look out for, like the folks out there pushing things to the limits.
I have been caught in numerous adverse conditions that if I was in anything less than of a 1 ton truck things may have ended much differently.
Well hello neighbor. I’m also here in Ocean city Md. plus I have a 2015 Toyota Tundra crewmax towing my 2022 grand design 17MKE.
What a great truck. Thanks for watching
how much does your Grand design weigh ? I was looking into those I have a crewman as well.
@@autismdad8893 it’s about 5000 lbs.
Thanks for sharing!
...We have the same truck, same trailer (both just a bit older, 4 & 7yrs respectively), similar air bags (although ours are tied together with an onboard compressor and a wireless remote), very similar sliding hitch - ~10 years in and it still tows very well.
Tundra is an excellent tow vehicle. Especially those from 2021 and prior. Not so much a fan of the 2022s and newer, but that is another story. continued safe travels....
You have been looking for that glue since you installed the bike rack. Amazing. Safe Travels and Happy "Sunny Peaches" Trails.
I have the same Tundra. I commend you on you staying on the HIGHWAYS & not on the INTERSTATE. I do the same thing & try to stay on U.S.1. I see a lot of dangerous situations on I-95 due to snowbirds & their campers. Everything from impeding traffic because they can't do interstate speeds of 70+ M.P.H., to wrecks from not having the trailer ballasted correctly. Thanks for sharing, drive safe. 🤠🤠
No one is impeding traffic on an interstate freeway when they drive in right lane even at 55mph is fine because remember 70 75 or 80 is the maximum speed limit and often for trucks it is lowered and who says you are obligated to drive the maximum speed limit anyways. As long as you drive 55mph or more you are fine.
I’m struggling to tow my Jayco 263 RBS, I have a 2016 Tundra TRD with big V8, the empty weight is around 6500, tongue weight is around 700. I know a fifth wheel is going to pull better because the weight is over the axles. I can tow it but any rough roads and/or back roads I get a little squirrelly waddle in the back. I have a top of the line equalizer hitch, so in the process of lessoning the tension per the equalizer company to see if that helps. It was installed at the RV dealer, rechecked for proper setup too. I also tried airbags after watching a dozen videos of people seeming to cure their towing issues with them. It didn’t help my situation. I know a regular trailer and 5th wheel are night and day difference but thanks for the video and travel tips. I may not go over 55 mph, love your 150 miles a day, sounds perfect for us/me, with my bad low back.
Nice;) a undercarriage welded frame may help for towing. The Tundra frame is made for flexibility for off-road but built like a one ton:)
Thanks for your input , very helpful
While the debate rages over whether the trailer is too heavy for that truck, I can't help but think that if all drivers were as knowledgeable and careful as this guy, the highways would be safer.
Great video, love your rig
Can’t wait to hit the road again. Probably be venturing out end of January. Thank you very much for watching.
Tundra owner here and fellow Marylander, I just subscribed.
Thanks for sharing! Answered a few questions I had. I am looking into a Gooseneck trailer or 5th wheel. This was well done, and thorough. Safe travels to you all!
but why the Caribou logo ? Thanks for the info. on the 1/2 ton fifth wheel though- very helpful
Lol… Elk clip art 😂
😂😂 love the spot 😂😂
I have a similar set up. Tundra with airbags and 1460lbs of payload matched with a Arctic Wolf 265DBH8 with 1340lbs pin weight. Not ideal, but legal. DOT scales in the northeast require that your actual gCvw is under your gCvwr. Meaning...Tundra gvwr 7100 + 5ver gvwr 9900 = combined weight rating of 17000. I always travel with empty tanks and minimal cargo, so I know I'm under 17k. Again not ideal. Not for newbs. It demands your full attention, but as he said it can be done. Philadelphia to Tampa Fl no problems! I do recommend adding a sway bar if you don't have one though.
Correct you can not go o ER your gvcw but you also can’t go over your payload capacity and that is your trailers pin weight also the hitch and any other object in the bed of the truck plus the weight of all the passengers in the truck so yes your trailer pin is under but you are probably 5-600 pounds over your payload when you include your hitch and everything else you carry and your self and anyone else so be aware that if anything unfortunate happens an insurance company can refuse to cover due to you being over weight on your truck
TBH I don't rely on insurance for anything, because they always try to find a way out. I just have it to be legal. I don't recommend 1/2 ton 5ver towing, but the video is about it being possible. I traveled from Philly to Bar harbor Maine recently, and the Tundras only problem was its MPGs.
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I don’t rely on insurance but it is needed in case of a real problem major damage but I would never go over my payload there is a difference of capable and legal and legal is the right way
@@markdibiasio2679 thanks for your concern
From what I read only 9 states require an RV to be weighed at a DOT scale if your over 10k lbs. I bet lot of people in RV's just drive by don't even realize it.
If you were to add 1 more leaf spring in the back it would ride nicely with that load. I can not believe it would be too hard if a ride if you were to drive empty all u would do is lower the tire pressure to 26 lbs or so and your tires would take up the suspension.
I like what you said, u are a very careful driver, I try to do the same things, thanks for all the useful information!
This guy is Waaaaaay Over his payload. He is not being “careful” unless he is only towing in a parking lot at 2 am with no others around. The only useful information is this info should never be duplicated.
Move very short distance NP
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I can see the heads of the 1 ton dually tow police explode. Nice setup!
I really hope you never get in an accident.towing that 5th wheel
Even a fender bender. Because when the cops come
And they find out your truck is a 1/2 ton. You will be at fault for the whole thing. Automatically. And I bet your insurance company will deny you coverage. Your pin weight alone is 2000 lbs. Not to mention your hitch and everything your carrying. Including passengers. Air bags don't increase your payload capacity. Please do yourself and your family a big favor. Not to mention everyone else on the road. Get a truck that's made for towing a 5th wheel. Also, your suspension isn't made for that application.
Well your obviously not a cop and Iam so that whole statement is BS. They only teach you weights and balances as faults in heavy vehicle operator course. Second no accident school tell you to judge what a 1/2 ton truck is pulling and any cop who thinks like that instead of using math is ignorant and uneducated. Tundras can pull some fith wheels and they do make quality light weight fith hitches. So educate your self before writing a message with false information.
@@ralphmackelvey6531 facts I am also a cop in Florida and we don’t check that.
Perfect video. Thank you... my question is this, we tundra owners have the pulling power, but with all your travels how is the stopping power?? Aside from the trailer brakes, have you done anything different to the truck brakes?? 😎🤙🏼
No, the brakes are stock. I did go with the ceramic pads, but only cause I didn’t like all the dust on the wheels. Trailer brakes or checked regularly.
I'm looking at a Cougar to pull with my 1/2 ton 5 1/2-foot bed. I have no problem with truck power and torque or weight capacity but will definitely need a slider. I would like to know if you are satisfied with your Cougar? The one I'm looking at is a 29' with unloaded weight at just under 7,000 lbs. I, like you, take it easy on the road and on my truck. I like to keep my load as light as possible for obvious reasons. Any comments would be appreciated.
I love my cougar. Now remember it’s just me and my dog. Once in a while I get a visitor but not too often. It tows very well and I keep really good tires on it. I really like the tight turn feature. If there’s anything I would change would be an airbag on the fifth wheel tongue. But that’s in the future.
I have the 4.6 and I tow excavators and skid steer all the tjme
Yes, a half ton can tow that trailer. That being said, all half ton trucks have too soft of a suspension in the rear. Absolutely upgrade the springs. I had an extra leaf to my truck right after I bought it. I hate a truck that squats when I tow. Also like this guy says, don't go too fast and leave lots of stopping room.
My 2014 one owner 80k miles came with that controller Tekonsha haven't used it yet but I'm surprised the farmer who owned the truck didn't take it out. I haven't really towed anything yet with my SR5, but I'm wanting to turn it into a truck camper with a topper only.
Canadians and Americans,the big 3 use 11” caliber brakes the Tundra 14” 😉
Hey brother. I recommend NITTO Dura Grappler for towing. They are highway towing tires 10 ply.
My question is, which engine are you using? I have a 4.6 L.
My Tundra does have the 5.7 in it. I absolutely love it.
Nice video, thank you!
It’s not a question of can it do it . It’s should you do it? I cannot even begin to tell you how many times I’ve been held up in traffic on Rte. 93 N & S in NH because some idiot in a 1/2 ton was flipped over towing a camper that was way too heavy for his truck!
I’ll stick to my 2021 F-350 thank you!
Was any of them a tundra?
Probably F150's... made out of beer cans.
i’ve overloaded my truck sr5 loading cantaloupes and a few times watermelons i probably 1000 pounds a couple times and numerous times hundreds over how did i know i bought whole sale the scale was across the street. my truck i felt ran better with weight than empty. at 3 k my truck did run different but as expected … years later my counter parts have all needed new trannys they drove chevys
Do you exceed the 9700lb rating ever when towing
What’s the payload on the truck? I think that’s the most concern. Good video. 👍🏻
I think it's like 9000lbs or something like that
@@davidaix5771 he said Payload, not towing capacity haha.
@@Kevincheesepizza oh crap my bad I think it mite be 1000lbs but not sure off the top.of my head but it's easy to look it up
1,600 or so
I have never pulled a fiver. I worry that I would lose to much truck bed storage. I put kayaks and bikes in there. Glad to see Sunny Peaches made the video. Nice job.
I do miss my truck bed. Happy holidays my friend.
So can a Subaru. Dont mean that its safe to do so.😂
Nice video! Thanks for the content. What year is your Tundra?
I love my 07 tundra and now im looking for another tundra to pull my 6x12 enclosed trailer with Lawn Care equipment. But im not sure if the 4.0,4.6 will do the work or should i stick with the 5.7
Did you remove the helper spring when you installed the airbags ?
My first attempt was, I did install helper springs. But it Road horrible. So I removed the helper springs and only went with the stock springs and airbags. I run 35 psi in them now. I lighten up my camper a little bit taking out unnecessary items.
Yall are nuts aboit all this payload bs. Hell they landed a damn 787 in the bed if a tundra when the landed gear failed
Looks like Tundra only has a payload of around 1730#’s. With approx 20% of your trailer weight of 10k #’s that would be a pin weight of a little less than 2000 #’s before you add 2 people (350 #’s) and stuff (100#’s?) in the truck + your mini-bike(200#’s). Yikes!. Manufacturers don’t attach 12’ high campers to vehicles blowing in the wind to obtain max tow capacity, they actually use flat bed trailers on driving courses. Airbags don’t add structural integrity to a vehicle, it’s still a 1/2 ton frame that is rated for 1730#’s. Any vehicle can tow most things, but will it stop it? Lawyers look for these types of set-ups after an accident. We are very conservative and our preference is never tow more than 60% of max allowable tow rating for reasons listed above. Just us. Our current set-up is RAM 2500 (payload 3300, max tow 14,700) with a 25’ 5th wheel max weight 7700 #’s. May be overkill, but safe. Best of luck to you and everyone on the road with you.
I forgot to add in the fifth wheel hitch in your truck (250-300 #’s). Being conservative your set up is 1000#’s over your 1730# payload.
I'm interested in doing this with my 2015 tundra 1794. I am a little confused on the weights. My Toyota dealer says my model truck is USK56L-PSTZKA with a 1335 payload. So I think I understand that I need to account for all passengers, gear, hitch weight in the payload number. minus 10% brings me to about 9350 (9800 is the standard max weight for my configuration). So if I subtract the weight of people, gear and hitch lets say it is 600 lbs from the 1335 is 735. How do I know the weight of the trailer I can pull? just kind of confused with all the calculations
I tow a fifth wheel camper and a fifth wheel utility trailer with my 16000 lb dozer..but I'm a bit nuts..09 tundra 5.7ltr super charged 220000 miles..iv had no issues..
WTF ............WELCOME TO FLORIDA
WTF , helll nooo
So are you still under the GWVR for the truck? Or would this fifth wheel and that payload with the tongue weight included put you over what it’s rated for safety wise?
Don’t know the details of this truck but if it was a 2012 Tundra outfitted properly it could have a max payload of 2000 lbs. To be able to hit those maximum towing and payload numbers typically trucks are the 2 door long box 2wd model. This trailer would likely have a 20% pin weight putting it at 1985 lbs. Assuming this was a model that could hit that 2000 lbs payload mark, passengers, 5th wheel hitch, and any additional cargo on the truck would put the truck over weight. Maxing out the tow vehicle to 100% isn’t a a huge deal if it’s max towing or max payload, but riding on both lines and pushing the tow vehicle to its maximum limit can lead to control and stability issues in adverse conditions. It’s a situation like this where I would recommend at least a 3/4 ton truck. Even then people need to watch the payload on 3/4 tons because this trailer could potentially put it over the max payload on some 3/4 tons (especially diesels).
So true! Yes, he is way over cargo capacity sitting motionless, forget the in motion weight. None of these 1/2 ton towables should be towed by a 1/2 ton. Tundra has dismal tow ratings. It’s more suited for a utility trailer to the dump or lumber yard, maybe a small TT. Manufacturers and sales are doing a big disservice to the public. They need to take a physics course. Eventually a smart law firm will figure this out and the lawsuits will start. @@R3lyc
@@jaccole have you ever done it with a half ton?
@@edmundsmith7199 NEVER WOULD! A half ton is only a Light Duty truck. You can add springs, shocks, bump stops or whatever. It’s still a half ton frame and brakes. Can you tow it? Yes, but the question is can you stop it? All weights given are an RV sitting still in a parking lot. Big difference with the physics of weight in motion bouncing, chucking and pushing that Light Duty frame and brakes. That king pin is like a jack hammer with all that weight and force radiating down through the hitch, bed, frame and axels. Please look up the J2807 Tow Tests that auto manufacturers use to determine max tow and cargo weight. They set those max weights using a flat bed trailer for 11.3 miles on a course in AZ and they have to maintain 40 mph to the max of 65 mph. So your truck may have never been driven more than 40 mph to “pass” the test and obtain that max tow rating. They also have the option to complete the test on a computer simulator, so your truck may never have actually been driven to “pass” the test. BIG DIFFERENCE with a 12’ high RV whether people want to believe that or not. Here is a simple experiment: Take a 20 lb dumbbell and hold it with both hands out in front of you. (That is you holding your king pin motionless). Now have someone push forward/down-up, pull/push on it. Tell me if there is a difference and if you can remain in the same position without fatigue. You getting pushed around and fatigue is your truck in motion. Also, safe tow recommendations have always been to take any max rating and never exceed 75-80% of that value. It’s called margin of error and common sense.
@@edmundsmith7199 @edmundsmith7199 NEVER WOULD! A half ton is only a Light Duty truck. You can add springs, shocks, bump stops or whatever. It’s still a half ton frame and brakes. Can you tow it? Yes, but the question is can you stop it? All weights given are an RV sitting still in a parking lot. Big difference with the physics of weight in motion bouncing, chucking and pushing that Light Duty frame and brakes. That king pin is like a jack hammer with all that weight and force radiating down through the hitch, bed, frame and axels. Please look up the J2807 Tow Tests that auto manufacturers use to determine max tow and cargo weight. They set those max weights using a flat bed trailer for 11.3 miles on a course in AZ and they have to maintain 40 mph to the max of 65 mph. So your truck may have never been driven more than 40 mph to “pass” the test and obtain that max tow rating. They also have the option to complete the test on a computer simulator, so your truck may never have actually been driven to “pass” the test. BIG DIFFERENCE with a 12’ high RV whether people want to believe that or not. Here is a simple experiment: Take a 20 lb dumbbell and hold it with both hands out in front of you. (That is you holding your king pin motionless). Now have someone push forward/down-up, pull/push on it. Tell me if there is a difference and if you can remain in the same position without fatigue. You getting pushed around and fatigue is your truck in motion
What Engine and what milage do you get towing and what is your fuel tank size?
It’s a Toyota with a 5.7 L gas engine. Unfortunately it has a very small gas tank only about 22 gallons. My average mileage for towing my camper is right around 10 mpg
@@thetravelingelk1155 That is not bad MPG and I installed the 38 gallon tank on mine. Mine is 2X4 with tow package.
How much does the trailer weigh and what is the touge weight?
Trailer GVRW is 9000 pounds. As far as the tongue weight I’ve always wanted to take it to a truckstop and weigh it. But I haven’t gotten around to it. Like I mentioned I’ve towed it thousands of miles and I’ve never had an issue. But I don’t carry a lot of stuff in my fifth wheel either. I am a very minimalist when it comes to things I take with me. No rock collections here. Lol
@@thetravelingelk1155 We are thinking about it.
Thanks , Mike
What year is your truck? What's the specs for max towing weight and max payload?
His max payload is way below what he is trying to tow. Very unsafe.
It's NOT what it can tow, It's what it can control. You are living dangerously with your setup. People please don't do what this man is doing.
How many miles does your Tundra have now sir?
With my bad luck, a slick lawyer could make me liable for some horrendous damage or loss of life, because I was 100 lbs. over my payload capacity.......even if the accident was completely unavoidable. That's just the kind of luck I have.
Thanks for the video. Very level headed.
Traveling Elk Great Video....What's the pin weight on that 5th wheel....I have a GMC 1500 Sierra 5.3 4x4 looking to tow a 5th wheel also....Seen the Revealtuons 226 which is very light for a 5th wheel....Which Toyota do you have....Thanks
Another video I've watched says you can. But should you? No. It's stressing your tow vehicle without you knowing it until your chassis breaks. And he showed some photos of vehicles breaking in half.
What rpms are you running at 65mph and what kinda miles per gallon as well
Ill check the RPMs but its a solid 10 MPG
I hauled a 2800lb empty trailer 70 mph @3100-3200 rpm and I was getting 7.8 mpg
When you're towing do you use drive or shift mode and if you're using shift what gear do you mostly run in
What’s the specs on your trailer?
Hi waths your mpg pulling
I haven’t been to the mountainous parts of the country. But on the flatlands I’m averaging 10 miles per gallon
10,000lb 5 th wheel has a tongue weight of approximately 2500 lbs.
that’s twice the cargo capacity of the Tundra. Tow capacity means nothing.
Very dangerous and illegal.
Insurance and truck warranty will be null and void.
At 10k you have about 2k pin weight. You tundra has about 2k payload and i am being nice.. With fuel, the hitch and all the stuff in the back of the truck you are AT LEAST 1,500 overweight.
I agree a 100%
I have had 3k in the bed of my tundra. Firewood
@@SwampDonkeyHomestead so your legally overloaded?
Well said, so dangerous!!!!
what kind of firewood? what kind of bed on the tundra? how did u fit nearly 3 cords of wood on it?
This is such a nuance question that I think the only responsible answer would be to do your own research on your own truck and trailer before deciding.
As a trucker of 8 years I’ve seen plenty of friends either destroy their trucks transmission or suspension by trying to tow more than they can actually tow.
Air ride is great, but you should def check your transmission oil and send it off to get examined to make sure nothing is slowly breaking over time.
Thank you for your comment. I was hoping that this video would help people with their research.
Watching transmission temp gauge helps with that as well
Your like most people before social media started making such a big deal about weight. Now days have guys going to certified scales and using calculations. I bet if you asked people who are old enough did they ever take an RV to a certified scale the answer will be no. What we did was when the back-end dips too much you put overload springs on it. Forums, comments, FB they make these claims that if you wreck be liable. Show me one incident where that happened when it was overloaded with in reason. I'm not talking about the guy with the F350 towing a 50k lb boat down a grade in NV plowed into bunch of people. If you plow into bunch of cars cops might break out scales but use common sense, make sure you can stop brakes are good enough. Don't overload by 1000's of lbs use common sense. Don't drive fast like you said stay at 65 mph most of the time cars are passing you it always leaves room. Going down a steep grade put the flashers and go slow with the trucks to the right no need to rush. I think that is where people get into trouble with these high output diesels, they can get going really fast.
You have the best truck to tow that 5th wheel.Toyota
Amen brother!
The Tundra with the 5.7 V8 is rated at 8,300 to 12,000 lbs. So the Tundra is essentially a 3/4 ton.
I have both a 5.7 tundra and a gmc 2500. The tundra is a half ton truck. A very good one but no where near what a 3/4 ton is. Everything is bigger on the 3/4.
@@Bostonharborwateragreed, I have a 2020 Tundra and an F250, the diesel is much better for towing and stability, the Tundra, while a great truck and extremely capable one at that, should never (in my opinion) attempt to tow above 8,000 lbs. it’s too close to the maximum.
Towing that 5th wheel I’d install a transmission cooler also, the 2018 Tundra (I believe) was the last year to come with them.
@@XRakkgruntX Agreed on the weight. My boat is about 8000+/- on the trailer. While it does great, I would definitely want a bigger truck if it weighed any more. I added airbags and LT tires. It made quite the difference, I never tow it with the 2500 gmc I also have because that trucks for work and it’s always at MAX gvwr. Welder. Tools in the back. You’re also right about the tranny cooler. 2018 was the last year. I was pretty bummed out when I found out, But it’s been 5 years and I haven’t heard of anyone on the forums have any issues with the post 2018 trucks. So I stopped worrying about it. 🤣.
A tundra would probably do better than most 1/2 ton trucks
Cat got your tongue? No response to the effect that you are WAYYYY OVERRRR your Payload! Please STOP promoting this bad advice. Period! Anyone reading this, PLEASE don’t follow this guy’s advice.
Crazy if you do
So you talked and didn't tow for us......
I’ll have to add a live action towing this. I do have several videos with me driving my truck pulling a camper. Check out my channel and subscribe. Thank you very much and thank you for watching
I would say you would not have a problem because a Toyota tundra is considered a three-quarter ton truck
Will he be able to call on you to chip in when he gets in an accident?
According to him, "Yes, it can pull a fifth-wheel camper" based on his experienced as an owner of a Toyota Tundra truck and a fifth-wheel camper. No need to urgue what he is saying. Thanks for that info.
Payload numbers…..you’re overload and not safe for others on the road!
So dangerous and illegal
Exactly
“Suggested payload” written by the manufacturer for liability reasons. Max payload does not mean failure point. If you really want to drill down, find the RBM spec, yield strength and tensile strength of the frame rails. That will tell you much more than the numbers on the door.
@@edmundsmith7199 good luck if you are involved in an accident…….
@@BobBob-dx5jx you didn’t pay attention to what I said
You will be in serious trouble if you wreck. Way over payload and not following specs for your truck. This is criminal on the roads…do research before you cost other people.
But not smart….
Over 45,000 miles on rig not a single issue. Love it!