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Why are you covering this? You're just fueling their scams. You're part of the problem. Bellular News is probably taking money from the developers of The Day Before to promote their scams.
"We didn't scam you; we just tried to take your money for a product we lied about, and since Steam refunded you, technically we gave you your money back."
Exactly it’s fair to give them the benefit of the doubt but you don’t trust anything they say until they actually produced results. Best example is still No Mans Sky they also over promised hard acknowledged their mistake and actually made good on it and now that game is amazing but it took quite a bit of time for them to regain trust as it should be. If it’s too easy they’ll just do the same again
@@philritter9042 giving someone the benefit of the doubt literally translates to trusting them, and believing they are being honest about what they are saying. You shouldn't do that with pretty much any company that is in the business to make money. And you should definitely not give this company the benefit of any doubt. You should think that everything they do and say is a scam intended to separate people from their money, by doing the least amount of work possible. If you buy a meal and they charge you 20, come set some chewed up chicken bones on your table and go, oh sorry.... That's not what you wanted? Well, your bank can refund you due to fraud, but please come back next month, we will have some awesome ribs for only 25. Do you go OK but, I want to see the ribs before I pay you.... No. You go, nah. I'm good. I won't be returning to your store. This is NOT a NMS situation. They fixed the thing they sold FIRST before asking you to spend for something else. Just like if the chicken you ordered took another 20 minutes but it came out and was awesome... THEN maybe think about coming back for the ribs.
@ don’t get me wrong I was generalising here these devs clearly don’t have any remorse and just want to test what they can get away with but that doesn’t mean studios can’t make mistakes and better themselves like NMS did. Sure it’s hella rare and that’s why on their second try they will have to deliver a full product before anyone should buy into it
Does your friend get scammed a lot? They couldn’t be more obvious with everything they have done and are doing at this point I’d be better for them to ditch their name and make a new company
The problem is that a lot of people either have short-term memory, couldn’t be bothered to do basic research, or just simply don’t care no matter how much evidence you throw at them. Especially the “I don’t care” people.😕
The Escape Factory Kickstarter didn't simply fail Kickstarter took action against them. I reported it an got an email back from Kickstarter using the exact words "we are taking action".
@@mdb45424wasn’t that what they did to begin with? Wasn’t it this company that made promo for other games during day before announcements and such? It seems to me that they never even wanted to make a real game and now they are back since their first scam wasn’t big enough
From all the new info I gather so far, now I finally sure those brothers are complete M (can't even type this, why YT?) Before this, I was one of many "conspiracy theorist" who think those two have long term scheme or doing "The Producers". But nope, just M
@@mdb45424 they also said they shutting down or that they are in dept of their publisher, although the publisher owned by the same brothers. Why do you believe them?
@@hafirenggayuda Cause they don't want you being aggressive to other people to avoid the lack of regulation that twitter has with people saying some truly outlandish things or really intolerably mean things. So I understand wrangling it in to prevent that, I do think its a little heavy handed with some words but I understand why its done.
Shout out to the time that Riot, who ran the Dota 1 forums, deleted all of the content in the Dota 1 fan hero creations subforum and then added those heroes into LoL
there were actually people enjoying The Day Before and i have NO CLUE how someone could find enjoyment in THAT! You'd have to be content with the smallest hint of a game somewhere deep inside the asset flip for this...
@@Aryasvitkona Devovler Digital?? i think you got something completely wrong because those are legit devs responsible for the likes of Hotline Miami, Enter the Gungeon and some of the funniest "Press Conferences" during E3. Those are NOT Scammers at all!
@@AryasvitkonaYou mean Digital homicide. But eventually people wised up and dropped like yesterday's trash. The Romaine bros supposedly got the hint and left the game development industry.
They built up years of hype, ended up releasing a product that made Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing look good by comparison, then shut down their servers days after launch. One of the only times in history to that point that Steam FORCED refunds for a game. And people were ready to give them MORE money?
Not the only time. There have been a few times Steam has released unconditiional full refunds for a game, but usually the publisher / developer accepts Steams decision after the fact to do so. Now Steam is rolling out more and more policies about giving user more product information, season pass and dlc guarantees etc. So we may see this more.
@@emanojc8878 One of the earliest famous cases of a game being released in an obvious alpha state trying to be passed off as a finished product. Kinda like The Day Before, almost nothing promised in the game was even there, much less WORKING. I'd recommend looking up a couple videos about it to see the finer details.
The best Prop Hunt game that COULD exist. Is one that's randomly generated. Yes the current games aren't bad. But there are people that memorize everything. And they wont have any issue finding the people. I wish for a random generized prop hunt game. It would be soo good.
day before left them in big debt from all the resources they bought, servers bougth and of course fines from steam themselves, this is just a quick cash grab before they go bankrupt.
that would be the hope in the economy recovering from trump. Basically people are betting on people having extra money and wanting to get in on a pump an dump before the bubble pops
@@mdb45424 If anything, if Trump actually follows through with his braindead idea of having America be in possession of a Bitcoin reserve, it will basically devalue the dollar all the way to hell and crumble Bitcoin shortly after.
Prop Night was an actually good game. As another comment pointed out, however, it suffered from memorization which led to new players being skill gated.
I don't really mind map design contests, but the company has to have a fleshed out high quality FINISHED AND RELEASED project made by paid workers. Needless to say, a map design contest for an unreleased game is absolutely, as you said, speculative labor.
Two Brothers, they fight zombies and stuff, and the moon is crashing into the earth, and then theres the grannies, with guns, and their pissed! Two Brothers!
"We're going to be honest from now on!" "If the Kickstarter fails, we'll go away forever." *Kickstarter fails* "We're gonna pretend that didn't happen."
At the very least, scope wise, Escape Factory is at least plausible for their company to successfully make. I still wouldn't have bought it or cared it, nor would I expect them to be successful in actually launching it, but at least it was within the realm of possibility. A much better promise than their horror of The Day Before, who I don't even think Riot could have succeeded in making.
These guys make me think of the Groucho Marx quote: "He may look like an idiot, and talk like an idiot. But don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot."
i think part of the reason why they "returned" is because almost no one brought their story of them stop producing games, since it was known what they whent by a diferent name after "fntastic ceased of existing", so likely they tried to go the route of "we will be more transparent! we will become better!" and all that spiel in hopes they could get the desired effect(which ofc, it didnt), and now unsuprisingly a majority what still gives them some degree of attention does not shallow their lies in any way or form due to their unwillingless to keep their word with their last crowfunding of ceasing making games if it failed also the survey they did about people could be willing to crowfunding another game could be probably doctored in some way, because i doubt the numbers they gave are truthfull
The way this company moves they seem to want to take the loan of player's money to get their leg in the door. I will say they are trying their best to stay alive which I respect. Grabbing free labor is fine so long as the people signing up to it are in agreement.
Can all internet scams going forward be like this? With the exception of the worker abuse, it's pretty ideal for the public. Everyone got a refund, those who choose to get to watch the scammers fall comically from grace, and content creatirs get thousands in ad revenue.
Im actually suprised they havent tried to change the studios name so they can market themselves as a up and coming studio.. not one thats already tried to fleece people.. twice... and failed.
Maybe this is a combination of my perspective as a hobbyist game dev and the benefits of hindsight, but a game company marketing itself as "wanting to make games that will be loved for decades" strikes me as a huge red flag. Like, IMO you don't say something like that because you want to make good games that people will enjoy, you say that because you want to be rich and famous but you have to pretend it's about the quality of your work. [Edit] Re: the whole "speculative labor" bit: I recognize that whether I engage in such a competition is on me. But I also recognize that the organization is complicit in it by, y'know, being the organizers. I would be more willing to buy the "community engagement" narrative if the _only_ reward was having your map added to the game, with credits. In that case, the reward is _explicitly_ that community members get a chance to be a part of something they enjoy. But the rewards also include what I would consider monetary compensation, which paints it less as competing in a talent show and more as bidding for a contract.
I was going to say that their words are air at this point, but their words are less than air. Their words are the words of an ex asking for an eighth chance.
You can be forgiven for spending money on one or two of Fntastic's previous endeavors, but if you put a dime into their "products" now, you deserve what you get.
As a gamer, my first instinct about the crowd sourcing of content is, it's good. It looks more imaginative, inspired and fun than a lot of what I'm seeing, so I'm not even much inclined to be critical of the process since it is was freely offered. I'm a career musician of many decades, a BMI affiliated composer, performer and arranger, and because of the ever increasing power of a handful of corporations I am somewhat hamstrung by the misuse of DRM practices such that it's not even easy for me to use my own original works on major platforms. Is the company a fraud? They may not even acknowledge it to themselves, but yes, certainly to some degree. But I'm willing to consider the possibility that they really do believe they can create good games, even if cashing in is part of their dream. As for The Day Before in particular, I don't even consider it the biggest disaster. Rather, I'm amazed at how very few offerings we get in the open world action/survival adventure genre. I'm somewhat of a fan of DayZ and how much it has been tweaked and improved over time, but find it absurd that there are so few if any viable competitors after so many years. Even with numerous engine improvements they're still loaded with legacy issues such as the crazy physics bugs and limitations. My view of the Day Before release was that if they had actually made a few more systems functional they'd have had a shot. Kind of ironic actually how much was made of the asset flip thing since that would probably be the end result of their new works if not for "community volunteer" contributions. No, I did not buy Day Before, but if I had and given the choice, I'd be more anxious to get back what I paid to RSI, or Quantum Integrity, or Brian Fargo.
Dunno, while I understand volunteering and good will work, doing it for a gaming company doing it privately? Not for me. If it was some kind of free game for a good cause, then I could understand working for free, but not for something that is supposed to make money.
The biggest problem they have is they're deceptive and just create sub-par work. Getting the community to design your maps, which is the biggest part of making a good map, is just getting free work done. Also, Prop Night was shut down by Mytona and Mytona won't give them the IP and yet here they are making a clone game of something they already developed. Mark my words, 6 months or a year from now they'll release ITEMS and it'll be a carbon copy clone of their own game, just with new characters and maps. No creativity whatsoever.
And the funny thing is that given how they have the existing codebase already made up for Prop Night if they had even half a dozen, half-decent developers working a nomal 40-hour week then they'd have the game finished within 6 weeks. Given how that hasn't happened I'd say this is yet another con and there isn't even a dev team this time.
Fntastic: When asset flippers believe their own nonsense... XD Anyone who fell for The Day Before frankly deserved to be scammed though. It was obvious from the get-go. >.>
They have a grift, they have gotten away with it and suffered no ill effects from scamming people. So why wouldn't they do it again? they may not have gotten money the first time. why not try again
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Call em what they are: scammers. Not developers.
Why are you covering this? You're just fueling their scams. You're part of the problem. Bellular News is probably taking money from the developers of The Day Before to promote their scams.
"We didn't scam you; we just tried to take your money for a product we lied about, and since Steam refunded you, technically we gave you your money back."
Hopefully steam bans this company from its Storefront
When a known liar is telling you they are changing and that honesty is important, keep your guard up.
Exactly it’s fair to give them the benefit of the doubt but you don’t trust anything they say until they actually produced results. Best example is still No Mans Sky they also over promised hard acknowledged their mistake and actually made good on it and now that game is amazing but it took quite a bit of time for them to regain trust as it should be. If it’s too easy they’ll just do the same again
@@philritter9042 giving someone the benefit of the doubt literally translates to trusting them, and believing they are being honest about what they are saying.
You shouldn't do that with pretty much any company that is in the business to make money. And you should definitely not give this company the benefit of any doubt. You should think that everything they do and say is a scam intended to separate people from their money, by doing the least amount of work possible.
If you buy a meal and they charge you 20, come set some chewed up chicken bones on your table and go, oh sorry.... That's not what you wanted? Well, your bank can refund you due to fraud, but please come back next month, we will have some awesome ribs for only 25. Do you go OK but, I want to see the ribs before I pay you.... No. You go, nah. I'm good. I won't be returning to your store.
This is NOT a NMS situation. They fixed the thing they sold FIRST before asking you to spend for something else. Just like if the chicken you ordered took another 20 minutes but it came out and was awesome... THEN maybe think about coming back for the ribs.
If by "keep your guard up" you mean disregard every single word they say, then yes
@@philritter9042 they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt because they're still lying about what happened to this day.
@ don’t get me wrong I was generalising here these devs clearly don’t have any remorse and just want to test what they can get away with but that doesn’t mean studios can’t make mistakes and better themselves like NMS did. Sure it’s hella rare and that’s why on their second try they will have to deliver a full product before anyone should buy into it
Can't wait for The Day Before 2: Big Laundering Boogaloo
i cant wait for the day before 3: electric turd boogaloo
Nah the sequel would be The Year After
I told my friend that it was gonna be a scam and he didnt believe me
Does your friend get scammed a lot? They couldn’t be more obvious with everything they have done and are doing at this point I’d be better for them to ditch their name and make a new company
Same. Called it day one. Or should I say, the day before? Haha
@@DaniVegaz 😎👉👉
The friend should ditch his name and get a new one too.
stop giving proven scammers money, jesus. in this current climate we can't afford to give these clowns second chances
This is definitely a con, but if they keep doing it and getting away with it then it’s just good capitalism
The problem is that a lot of people either have short-term memory, couldn’t be bothered to do basic research, or just simply don’t care no matter how much evidence you throw at them. Especially the “I don’t care” people.😕
The Day Before 2: The Search For More Money
This WOULD be a good use for Spaceballs: The Flame Thrower...
They evolved, now they ripped off spaceballs for the title!!!
The Escape Factory Kickstarter didn't simply fail Kickstarter took action against them. I reported it an got an email back from Kickstarter using the exact words "we are taking action".
They still could not afford that extra vowel
I pronounce them “F’ntastic” because that’s the reaction I get whenever I see that they’re in the news again
I pronounce it "F'ntastic" because as far as I'm concerned that just IS THEIR NAME with the way they spell it.
@@orvilleredenpiller338 replace the first t with sp
@@StephenMcGregor1986😂😂
Instead of completing the games they produce, they start new scams.
it didnt get crowdfunded so they scrapped it. They are indebt and trying to make quick cash at this point.
@@mdb45424wasn’t that what they did to begin with? Wasn’t it this company that made promo for other games during day before announcements and such? It seems to me that they never even wanted to make a real game and now they are back since their first scam wasn’t big enough
From all the new info I gather so far, now I finally sure those brothers are complete M (can't even type this, why YT?)
Before this, I was one of many "conspiracy theorist" who think those two have long term scheme or doing "The Producers". But nope, just M
@@mdb45424 they also said they shutting down or that they are in dept of their publisher, although the publisher owned by the same brothers.
Why do you believe them?
@@hafirenggayuda Cause they don't want you being aggressive to other people to avoid the lack of regulation that twitter has with people saying some truly outlandish things or really intolerably mean things. So I understand wrangling it in to prevent that, I do think its a little heavy handed with some words but I understand why its done.
They weren't sorry the day before but they are sorry the day after.
@@syvulpie 👏
Shout out to the time that Riot, who ran the Dota 1 forums, deleted all of the content in the Dota 1 fan hero creations subforum and then added those heroes into LoL
@@Mark-nh7zg
This is the first time I've heard about this.
@@WeabooMoe same. is that true?
How is riot running valve forums? This seems so fake lmaoo
We all know that, Gaben told people that shit after he beat Steve Austin at ufc 1337
They are trying to monetize apologies post scam
They also lied about Escape Factory assets being "carefully designed and crafted" by their team when a lot of it was just bought from the asset store.
Amazing there were STILL people willing to hand them money despite everything. Says more about gamers than Fntastic.
Eternal September- just because BASICALLY everyone has heard of them doesn't mean EVERYONE has.
there were actually people enjoying The Day Before and i have NO CLUE how someone could find enjoyment in THAT! You'd have to be content with the smallest hint of a game somewhere deep inside the asset flip for this...
Cant steam perma ban that company from releasing anything on the platform?
they dont have too. devs are listed and most people heard about the drama.
They'll just make a shell corpo to do it. Like uhh.. who was the people Sterling kept covering back in 2018? Devolver Digital?
@@Aryasvitkona Devovler Digital?? i think you got something completely wrong because those are legit devs responsible for the likes of Hotline Miami, Enter the Gungeon and some of the funniest "Press Conferences" during E3. Those are NOT Scammers at all!
@@AryasvitkonaYou mean Digital homicide. But eventually people wised up and dropped like yesterday's trash. The Romaine bros supposedly got the hint and left the game development industry.
@@darkhawk5231 they also published Downwell and own the Shadow Warrior series
Internet memory can be short, but not this short. These boys need hide out a while longer
"There's a sucker born every minute."
They built up years of hype, ended up releasing a product that made Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing look good by comparison, then shut down their servers days after launch. One of the only times in history to that point that Steam FORCED refunds for a game.
And people were ready to give them MORE money?
Not the only time. There have been a few times Steam has released unconditiional full refunds for a game, but usually the publisher / developer accepts Steams decision after the fact to do so. Now Steam is rolling out more and more policies about giving user more product information, season pass and dlc guarantees etc. So we may see this more.
@@RookMeAmadeus what the hell is Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing
@@emanojc8878 One of the earliest famous cases of a game being released in an obvious alpha state trying to be passed off as a finished product. Kinda like The Day Before, almost nothing promised in the game was even there, much less WORKING.
I'd recommend looking up a couple videos about it to see the finer details.
if you put lipstick on a pig it's still a pig, scammers will be scammers no matter what changes they make
Corruption always claws back to try again.
The best Prop Hunt game that COULD exist. Is one that's randomly generated. Yes the current games aren't bad. But there are people that memorize everything. And they wont have any issue finding the people.
I wish for a random generized prop hunt game. It would be soo good.
This what the 4th time Fntastic has been back since they shut down _The Day Before._ At this point it's laughable.
day before left them in big debt from all the resources they bought, servers bougth and of course fines from steam themselves, this is just a quick cash grab before they go bankrupt.
Fntastic team got theoretical degrees in game design.
There's another one called Paradise that's a scam as well
They may be bad at making zombie games, but they're pretty good at doing a zombie impersonation.
I Saw the title and got excited The drama is more fun than their games.
Seeing that crypto is once again having another rise for god knows what reason, I'm confident people love getting scammed
that would be the hope in the economy recovering from trump. Basically people are betting on people having extra money and wanting to get in on a pump an dump before the bubble pops
@@mdb45424 If anything, if Trump actually follows through with his braindead idea of having America be in possession of a Bitcoin reserve, it will basically devalue the dollar all the way to hell and crumble Bitcoin shortly after.
the reason is elon trump getting cozy with him and that joke of "doge" to pay off the 35 TRILLION US debt and people are eating it UP
And the worst thing is, even if they keep pumping fake Kickstarter campaigns with 5 backers max, they will still profit from doing nothing.
I mean- as I understand it, Kickstarter should only be taking your money if the funding goal is reached?
They should be pumping fake Indiegogos!
Prop Night was an actually good game. As another comment pointed out, however, it suffered from memorization which led to new players being skill gated.
I don't really mind map design contests, but the company has to have a fleshed out high quality FINISHED AND RELEASED project made by paid workers.
Needless to say, a map design contest for an unreleased game is absolutely, as you said, speculative labor.
DONT BE SORRY, BE COMPETENT
Two Brothers, they fight zombies and stuff, and the moon is crashing into the earth, and then theres the grannies, with guns, and their pissed!
Two Brothers!
The Day Before and The SCAM After!
Bros thought that if switching from red to blue worked for Umbrella corp., surely it will work for them as well.
When scammers aren't arrested, they're going to eventually come back to scam again. 🤷♂️
"We're going to be honest from now on!"
"If the Kickstarter fails, we'll go away forever."
*Kickstarter fails*
"We're gonna pretend that didn't happen."
"The thing with Boot is that it's made by two brothers, that give a lot of heart" Fntastic is made by two brothers too btw XD
How was that saying again? Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, start a Kickstarter.
Video starts at 5:50
Every Bellular video feels like the exact same video
At the very least, scope wise, Escape Factory is at least plausible for their company to successfully make. I still wouldn't have bought it or cared it, nor would I expect them to be successful in actually launching it, but at least it was within the realm of possibility.
A much better promise than their horror of The Day Before, who I don't even think Riot could have succeeded in making.
i think they could have it wasn't exactly a high scope game and had a playable demo
There's a guy on Twitter giving Fnatastic the sloppy toppy of the century, damn
Gotta keep up the grift, they have no other business model. Thanks for keeping us informed.
Can’t wait for “The Day After”
These guys make me think of the Groucho Marx quote:
"He may look like an idiot, and talk like an idiot. But don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot."
Fntastic making games great again.
Can't wait for The Week Before.
My guess is they saw Concord and decided they still have a shot in this industry as they are no longer the biggest fuckup around.
it'll be different this time trust me bro
i think part of the reason why they "returned" is because almost no one brought their story of them stop producing games, since it was known what they whent by a diferent name after "fntastic ceased of existing", so likely they tried to go the route of "we will be more transparent! we will become better!" and all that spiel in hopes they could get the desired effect(which ofc, it didnt), and now unsuprisingly a majority what still gives them some degree of attention does not shallow their lies in any way or form due to their unwillingless to keep their word with their last crowfunding of ceasing making games if it failed
also the survey they did about people could be willing to crowfunding another game could be probably doctored in some way, because i doubt the numbers they gave are truthfull
The way this company moves they seem to want to take the loan of player's money to get their leg in the door. I will say they are trying their best to stay alive which I respect. Grabbing free labor is fine so long as the people signing up to it are in agreement.
Yeah, I am sorry for that
Can all internet scams going forward be like this? With the exception of the worker abuse, it's pretty ideal for the public. Everyone got a refund, those who choose to get to watch the scammers fall comically from grace, and content creatirs get thousands in ad revenue.
A fool and his money..... That's to the 50 backers and anybody else that would give them money.
Fan labor doesn’t bother me if they get credit for their work. It’s like an internship. Prop game looks good
Glad to see others covering this besides just me
Im actually suprised they havent tried to change the studios name so they can market themselves as a up and coming studio.. not one thats already tried to fleece people.. twice... and failed.
Maybe this is a combination of my perspective as a hobbyist game dev and the benefits of hindsight, but a game company marketing itself as "wanting to make games that will be loved for decades" strikes me as a huge red flag. Like, IMO you don't say something like that because you want to make good games that people will enjoy, you say that because you want to be rich and famous but you have to pretend it's about the quality of your work.
[Edit] Re: the whole "speculative labor" bit: I recognize that whether I engage in such a competition is on me. But I also recognize that the organization is complicit in it by, y'know, being the organizers. I would be more willing to buy the "community engagement" narrative if the _only_ reward was having your map added to the game, with credits. In that case, the reward is _explicitly_ that community members get a chance to be a part of something they enjoy. But the rewards also include what I would consider monetary compensation, which paints it less as competing in a talent show and more as bidding for a contract.
You build our game and we profit.
- F'ntastic, 2024
So, you know that Southpark guy saying "I'm sorry" over and over again?
Their next game would be "The Year After"
I didn't buy into them the first time, I"m not buying into them a second. I'm usually willing to be proven wrong about something though.
Good. Needed a giraffe.
I have no idea how people don't pronounce the company's name as "F-n Tastic".
I still don't believe "most wishlisted game on steam" was ever legit.
My guess is they refunded gamers but didn't refund the investors. This is basically the scam from The Producers.
People are so stupid if they give these scammers a second chance.
Every time they do this, the first thing I think is "Again? Really?"
I was going to say that their words are air at this point, but their words are less than air. Their words are the words of an ex asking for an eighth chance.
Aren't sorry enough it seems, since they are back.
You can be forgiven for spending money on one or two of Fntastic's previous endeavors, but if you put a dime into their "products" now, you deserve what you get.
Never keep a good scammer down!
"we gave everyone refunds" - because Steam forced it
I hope valve bans the entire studio and any shell companies they make from selling at all on steam
Day Before Bros... WE ARE BACK
imagine losing trust from the entire gaming community then coming back with another scam like nothing happened
"Paid" and "good will" sounds like the people are paid but probably like an intern for full time work or something as bogus
F’ing fantastic more like it
As a gamer, my first instinct about the crowd sourcing of content is, it's good. It looks more imaginative, inspired and fun than a lot of what I'm seeing, so I'm not even much inclined to be critical of the process since it is was freely offered. I'm a career musician of many decades, a BMI affiliated composer, performer and arranger, and because of the ever increasing power of a handful of corporations I am somewhat hamstrung by the misuse of DRM practices such that it's not even easy for me to use my own original works on major platforms.
Is the company a fraud? They may not even acknowledge it to themselves, but yes, certainly to some degree. But I'm willing to consider the possibility that they really do believe they can create good games, even if cashing in is part of their dream. As for The Day Before in particular, I don't even consider it the biggest disaster. Rather, I'm amazed at how very few offerings we get in the open world action/survival adventure genre. I'm somewhat of a fan of DayZ and how much it has been tweaked and improved over time, but find it absurd that there are so few if any viable competitors after so many years. Even with numerous engine improvements they're still loaded with legacy issues such as the crazy physics bugs and limitations. My view of the Day Before release was that if they had actually made a few more systems functional they'd have had a shot. Kind of ironic actually how much was made of the asset flip thing since that would probably be the end result of their new works if not for "community volunteer" contributions.
No, I did not buy Day Before, but if I had and given the choice, I'd be more anxious to get back what I paid to RSI, or Quantum Integrity, or Brian Fargo.
Dunno, while I understand volunteering and good will work, doing it for a gaming company doing it privately? Not for me. If it was some kind of free game for a good cause, then I could understand working for free, but not for something that is supposed to make money.
They're back for a third time??
Alright who let them out of the time out closet
The biggest problem they have is they're deceptive and just create sub-par work. Getting the community to design your maps, which is the biggest part of making a good map, is just getting free work done. Also, Prop Night was shut down by Mytona and Mytona won't give them the IP and yet here they are making a clone game of something they already developed. Mark my words, 6 months or a year from now they'll release ITEMS and it'll be a carbon copy clone of their own game, just with new characters and maps. No creativity whatsoever.
The brothers are delusional main character narcissists, they aren't going to go away.
The Day After
not really true on the refind thing,,, steam forced the refunded not the devs get it right!
Almost all the map designs were garbo AI slop wtf
And the funny thing is that given how they have the existing codebase already made up for Prop Night if they had even half a dozen, half-decent developers working a nomal 40-hour week then they'd have the game finished within 6 weeks. Given how that hasn't happened I'd say this is yet another con and there isn't even a dev team this time.
Honestly, this clown show was even better than the whole Warcraft reforged, overwatch 2 or concord debacle, based on the entertainment it provided.
*play South Park sorry meme"
Fntastic: When asset flippers believe their own nonsense... XD
Anyone who fell for The Day Before frankly deserved to be scammed though. It was obvious from the get-go. >.>
NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE!!!
They are scammers.....
Who are those 50 backers? I've got a BS project of my own I want to sell.
✨✨" V o l u n t e e r "✨✨
Fake it till you make it...
They have a grift, they have gotten away with it and suffered no ill effects from scamming people. So why wouldn't they do it again? they may not have gotten money the first time. why not try again
They're a scam studio, plain and simple
scammers to be trying to scam again