The seat height I believe is 845mm as standard, so definitely not a short seat height by any means - you'd think it'll be good for taller riders. Hopefully when things are better you'll get a chance to sit on one and find out if it suits!
But now when you look for these glorious Italian brands it's a matter of deciding what Japanese engine brand you prefer. Personally I love the Fantic brand but the old one which was 100% engineered and made in Italy. If we look for the best prices then I would opt for the SWM which is cheaper but again personally I prefer the 100% Italian brand so I would buy a Moto Guzzi or a Ducati.
@@BikeMatters Yes they use top brands for the parts but if the engine fails, you're doomed. Chinese engines might be good but we don't know yet for how long their reliability will last. I believe that the Chinese manufacturers in the near future will take a BIG leading position in the world's market in the 2 and 4 strokes motorbike engines but for now I wouldn't trial their engines. You had to to try (and see) old school Minarelli (also modded by Fantic), Rotax (not Italian), Polini, Faccioli Bruno etc. etc. to understand the beauty of the engineering and reliability of the Italian made engines and their modification kits to understand.
@@billadmond9450 Zongshen manufacturer has grown since 1992, and works with Harley Davidson, Piaggio and Yamaha. Their motorcycle engines are reliable, actualy. Zongshen is a major competitor in the china superbike championship and word endurance championchip. I think that Fantic didn't choose a bad manufacturer. And don't forget that SWM engines are chineese engines too (Shineray , Daxing Gong group)
@@ypcgnx7766 Yes I learned later that SWM is made in China too. If you know the glorious Italian engine brand Motori Minarelli, it has teamed with Yamaha, they develop and build engines for scooters and other 2-4 stroke engines too. I'm happy that Chinese engine and motorbike manufacturers are becoming world's primate so we will have more competition and more affordable products. But going back to the Italian manufacturing topic, you should know that they started developing and building engines since early 1900.
@@billadmond9450 I totaly agree with you Bill. I'm an old french man, fond of italian mechanics (bikes, cars). I know well Minarelli, and I'm sad too, when I see that Fantic has no way excepted chineese one...even if Zongshen is not the worse way to revive 😉
Now THATs how you do a retro scrambler! Good looking bikes.
Stunning isn't it!
Excellent review I love the bike 🏍
thank you!
Takes me back to the seventies i had a fantic caballero 50cc moped when i was 16 it was rapid i had it at 68mph my made had his at 74mph.
Good for taller riders?
The seat height I believe is 845mm as standard, so definitely not a short seat height by any means - you'd think it'll be good for taller riders. Hopefully when things are better you'll get a chance to sit on one and find out if it suits!
@@BikeMatters Many thanks
It's a nice bike but not sure you could find it in the US.
3:37 That hardware store bold doesn't belong on a 2020 bike, no matter how cheap, no matter how niche it is...
But now when you look for these glorious Italian brands it's a matter of deciding what Japanese engine brand you prefer.
Personally I love the Fantic brand but the old one which was 100% engineered and made in Italy.
If we look for the best prices then I would opt for the SWM which is cheaper but again personally I prefer the 100% Italian brand so I would buy a Moto Guzzi or a Ducati.
Pretty sure the Fantic Caballeros are still hand assembled in Italy. They are using some top components in their bikes.
@@BikeMatters Yes they use top brands for the parts but if the engine fails, you're doomed.
Chinese engines might be good but we don't know yet for how long their reliability will last.
I believe that the Chinese manufacturers in the near future will take a BIG leading position in the world's market in the 2 and 4 strokes motorbike engines but for now I wouldn't trial their engines.
You had to to try (and see) old school Minarelli (also modded by Fantic), Rotax (not Italian), Polini, Faccioli Bruno etc. etc. to understand the beauty of the engineering and reliability of the Italian made engines and their modification kits to understand.
@@billadmond9450 Zongshen manufacturer has grown since 1992, and works with Harley Davidson, Piaggio and Yamaha. Their motorcycle engines are reliable, actualy. Zongshen is a major competitor in the china superbike championship and word endurance championchip. I think that Fantic didn't choose a bad manufacturer. And don't forget that SWM engines are chineese engines too (Shineray , Daxing Gong group)
@@ypcgnx7766 Yes I learned later that SWM is made in China too.
If you know the glorious Italian engine brand Motori Minarelli, it has teamed with Yamaha, they develop and build engines for scooters and other 2-4 stroke engines too.
I'm happy that Chinese engine and motorbike manufacturers are becoming world's primate so we will have more competition and more affordable products.
But going back to the Italian manufacturing topic, you should know that they started developing and building engines since early 1900.
@@billadmond9450 I totaly agree with you Bill. I'm an old french man, fond of italian mechanics (bikes, cars). I know well Minarelli, and I'm sad too, when I see that Fantic has no way excepted chineese one...even if Zongshen is not the worse way to revive 😉