i have a theory that Scott was infected by the glow from as early as the first time Ramona skates through his dream desert the first time. I at least think he has it by the end of volume 1 because the memory we see at the beginning of volume 2 about Lisa and Kim is obviously an edited version of what happened. How much of that is Gideon's interference and Scott as an unreliable narrator is mostly up to you but i think the key indication that Gideon has fucked with this memory is that Simon Lee looks like a high school aged Gideon. I think as part of this editing, Kim has the glow in some manner by now too as she dreams that this version of Simon Lee killed Scott and she attends his funeral (in the same scene, Scott is shown to consciously be in this dream, as he can now in some ways use subspace) but at the same time, Kim can clearly remember what Simon actually looked like, a kind of twiggy Asian kid.
@@druidcitycomic5426 oh damn fastest reply ive ever got and on an 11 year old video. i just came back to the novels for like the first time in a decade and am just now seeing everything. im glad your essay was recommended to me, its very well sussed out, the glow was something ive been trying to figure out myself
I know I'm *extremely* late but I need some clarification on something. When Ramona came out of his shirt (after he comes back to life), Scott said "She's real...". I don't quite understand that and I want someone to explain that to me...
Ramona was appearing in his dreams earlier in volume six, but it wasn't her travelling through subspace. It was just a figment of his imagination. That and Scott thought that Gideon had her for the majority of her disappearance, which wasn't true. Thus he was shocked to see her again, in "real life".
I don't really think that Scott overcomes the NegaScott, as much as it beats him and forces him to confront the truth. NegaScott is formed from the dark parts of Scott's past, that Gideon blocked from him. This is why he appears when Scott is being an ass- He first properly manifests during Scott's freakout in Volume 4, and when Scott shouts that he needs Ramona, the NegaScott disappears back into him with the same visuals and onomatopoeia as he does in Volume 6. When he appears in Volume 6, during Scott's breakdown and attempt to just forget about the whole deal with Ramona and rekindle his past loves, it is to stop Scott from running away from his problems. Now, Ramona presumably does not have a NegaRamona appearing to her because she hasn't had the same treatment as Scott: While she too runs away from her problems, she remembers it, and, combined with the Glow, it becomes a heavy amount of self-loathing- I don't think it's a coincidence that Gideon describes her as a self-harmer when he realises that she's been using the Glow in conjunction with Subspace. Scott, meanwhile, has had his own responsibility for what he did in the past surpressed, and sees himself as a blameless paragon.That's why NegaScott appears. So when it confronts him in the wilderness, Scott tries to fight it. He tries to keep running away from his problems, refusing to accept that he's made mistakes and that he shares the blame. Because he doesn't accept this, he can't overcome NegaScott, and is defeated. As he finally remembers everything and realises what he did (Note that the flashback panels come before the NegaScott merges with him), he accepts it, and NegaScott is no longer necessary, merging with Scott completely. It's worth noting that the video game actually has a play on this: NegaScott is the sixth boss of the game, and naturally, he has to be defeated to beat the game. However, if you defeat him as Scott (Or rather, if Player 1 is Scott- If player 3 is Scott and he/she lands the final blow to NegaScott, the ending will still be PLayer 1's), then the ending has little canonical relation to the series: Ramona leaves, and Scott has a foursome with Kim, Knives, and Envy, with a hint that he's not entirely happy with his situation. While at first, it makes little sense, if you take into account the fact that Scott defeated NegaScott, then that means he wasn't confronted by his problems, he didn't get his memory restored, and he's still just as much of a jerk as he was at the beginning of the comic series. Meanwhile, the other characters all get happy endings, whch don't relate to the NegaScott at all. Ramona's is the closest to the canon ending: She overcomes her personal demons with Gideon, and starts a new life with Scott.
i have a theory that Scott was infected by the glow from as early as the first time Ramona skates through his dream desert the first time. I at least think he has it by the end of volume 1 because the memory we see at the beginning of volume 2 about Lisa and Kim is obviously an edited version of what happened. How much of that is Gideon's interference and Scott as an unreliable narrator is mostly up to you but i think the key indication that Gideon has fucked with this memory is that Simon Lee looks like a high school aged Gideon. I think as part of this editing, Kim has the glow in some manner by now too as she dreams that this version of Simon Lee killed Scott and she attends his funeral (in the same scene, Scott is shown to consciously be in this dream, as he can now in some ways use subspace) but at the same time, Kim can clearly remember what Simon actually looked like, a kind of twiggy Asian kid.
He probably gets infected as soon as he kissed Ramona.
@@druidcitycomic5426 oh damn fastest reply ive ever got and on an 11 year old video. i just came back to the novels for like the first time in a decade and am just now seeing everything. im glad your essay was recommended to me, its very well sussed out, the glow was something ive been trying to figure out myself
Out of all your videos this one is the most fantatsic oneam thank you so much for making this
I know I'm *extremely* late but I need some clarification on something. When Ramona came out of his shirt (after he comes back to life), Scott said "She's real...". I don't quite understand that and I want someone to explain that to me...
Ramona was appearing in his dreams earlier in volume six, but it wasn't her travelling through subspace. It was just a figment of his imagination. That and Scott thought that Gideon had her for the majority of her disappearance, which wasn't true. Thus he was shocked to see her again, in "real life".
I don't really think that Scott overcomes the NegaScott, as much as it beats him and forces him to confront the truth.
NegaScott is formed from the dark parts of Scott's past, that Gideon blocked from him. This is why he appears when Scott is being an ass- He first properly manifests during Scott's freakout in Volume 4, and when Scott shouts that he needs Ramona, the NegaScott disappears back into him with the same visuals and onomatopoeia as he does in Volume 6. When he appears in Volume 6, during Scott's breakdown and attempt to just forget about the whole deal with Ramona and rekindle his past loves, it is to stop Scott from running away from his problems.
Now, Ramona presumably does not have a NegaRamona appearing to her because she hasn't had the same treatment as Scott: While she too runs away from her problems, she remembers it, and, combined with the Glow, it becomes a heavy amount of self-loathing- I don't think it's a coincidence that Gideon describes her as a self-harmer when he realises that she's been using the Glow in conjunction with Subspace.
Scott, meanwhile, has had his own responsibility for what he did in the past surpressed, and sees himself as a blameless paragon.That's why NegaScott appears. So when it confronts him in the wilderness, Scott tries to fight it. He tries to keep running away from his problems, refusing to accept that he's made mistakes and that he shares the blame. Because he doesn't accept this, he can't overcome NegaScott, and is defeated. As he finally remembers everything and realises what he did (Note that the flashback panels come before the NegaScott merges with him), he accepts it, and NegaScott is no longer necessary, merging with Scott completely.
It's worth noting that the video game actually has a play on this: NegaScott is the sixth boss of the game, and naturally, he has to be defeated to beat the game. However, if you defeat him as Scott (Or rather, if Player 1 is Scott- If player 3 is Scott and he/she lands the final blow to NegaScott, the ending will still be PLayer 1's), then the ending has little canonical relation to the series: Ramona leaves, and Scott has a foursome with Kim, Knives, and Envy, with a hint that he's not entirely happy with his situation. While at first, it makes little sense, if you take into account the fact that Scott defeated NegaScott, then that means he wasn't confronted by his problems, he didn't get his memory restored, and he's still just as much of a jerk as he was at the beginning of the comic series.
Meanwhile, the other characters all get happy endings, whch don't relate to the NegaScott at all. Ramona's is the closest to the canon ending: She overcomes her personal demons with Gideon, and starts a new life with Scott.
+Dan Gleeson Great observation, I never played the game to completion.
I've only seen LPs, it's been taken down now, so I've got no hope of getting it.
@@ToaArcan Good news buddy
@@nikantalis3542 Yes, I'm happy to say that particular comment has aged like milk.
Why is your 5th book cover diffrent from mine?
JuddyFruity Is yours the color edition?
No...
we will never know
@@juddyfruity3917 ik i’m late. But the color editions and normal print have different covers
Cry-o freeze, not ky-ro freeze, but interesting video
Yeah, was too lazy to re-record. Happens.