The last time I took a vehicle to a Ford dealer was to replace a blend door motor on an F150. They charged a couple hundred dollars and didn't even tighten the screws all the way. I found out when it started making noise again and decided to fix it myself. God help anyone who needs a whole engine replaced at a Ford dealership.
I had a similar experience when I had the brake booster replaced under recall on my F150. There were multiple sensors left unplugged and a band clamp left off the intake in the bottom of the engine bay. I didnt even make it out of the parking lot before the check engine light. But I had the same thing happen at the Lexus dealer who were doing a recall on my Lexus GX460. Moral of the story, they all suck. This is why I do my own work on my cars.
At least Ford is giving very specific details on what went wrong and why. Toyota’s mfg debris statement still seems vague and frankly not believable (especially considering trucks newer than the recalled dates are still having the same issue).
Even before this recall, a Ford engine mechanic told me that if you are going to buy an F150, only get the normally aspirated 5.0 V8. Too many problems with all the V6 turbos.
At least theyre fixing and standing behind models. Anything w moving parts are gonna have some issues and its how those are handled. Thx sir great info!
Difference is they are not replacing 100k engines like Toyota has to do. BTW, this same thing happened on early 5.7L Toyota motors. There was quite a few 5.7's that dropped valves and took out the motor. There is a thread on the Land Cruiser forum im on right now.
@@kdavid123186 Yoda fanboys are absolutely the worst. And this is coming from a guy who has owned a 1995 4Runner, 2011 Lexus GX460 and currently owns an 2018 LX570. Ive owned lots of different brands over the years and the Toyota fanboys are easily the worst. It’s so bad that, even as a Toyota owner, I still troll them because they are so obnoxious.
All that hate from Ford people on our #Ram is showing us how great the Ram is. They all have problems, but the fact that our new Ram SST 1500 not only beat the ford up the TFL toaster, it did it with many disadvantages and an unproven drivetrain. We will purchase an aftermarket warranty. Why? Because we keep our Rams forever. Our oldest Ram in our collection is almost a quarter of a century old. It's a 1500 4x4 and has never left us stranded 1 time. The new Ram is just unbelievable. We don't want our new truck to be loud. I love my old v8s, but the inline 6 is better for us. The feel/fit and interior are class leading. But the ride to quality and performance experience is really a whole other level. You do you, but we work in security. #Ram is the only option. God Speed, only Jesus saves.
Also alot of these newer engines have open deck cylinder wall cooling which is hell on head gasgets ! Not sure why but could be to save weight -metal and lower engine noise !
Head gaskets really have not been an issue on the Ecoboosts, with the exception of the 2.3L that was in the Focus RS tuned to like 350hp. Guys run huge power numbers in the 3.5 and 3.0L and I've not heard of any head gaskets.
I seem to remember the old Chevy 2.2L had a reputation for valves breaking off. You used to see a lot of cars for sale with “just a misfire in one cylinder, probably needs a coil” in the ad.
Is there any truck out there right now that just works and doesn't have any recalls or serious issues?? Tundra with engine bearing issues, Tacoma with transmission issues, Ford with all of this, GM and all of their 8 speed stuff... It's ridiculous.
I don't understand how ford can stay in business. It seems like every year they're recalling vehicles. How does a company stay in business having to fix all these recalls? It's funny back in the day without technology we built great cars that lasted forever. Now they have to seem to build cars with all kinds of electronic gadgets and computer modules to the point where nothing's reliable. Does everything have to run on computer modules? Can some things just go back to the way they were . Half the stuff in vehicles we don't use as we're driving anyways. Can you imagine trying to use every little gadget in a car while you're driving you would be distracted and probably in a car accident. And what's funny is no matter how many recalls Ford has people still buy these vehicles at this point who's stupid? This goes out to every car manufacturer you don't need to put everything running on computer modules. The only thing that needs to run on a computer module is the engine and transmission and that's it. Everything should just go back to basics. A few airbags inside and that's about it. Put on your seatbelt and not worry about anything. I don't feel sorry the people keep buying Ford products that you're the one that needs to look in the mirror and ask yourself why? If anybody's going to spend $60 to $100,000 on a car get yourself a classic car go to a custom shop and build that car from the ground up and you can put anything you want in there as you're building it and it'll be more reliable than what comes from a factory. And if you are spending $60 to $100,000 on your vehicle, then you need to have your head examined. Also one more thing let's do away with a knob to putting the car in reverse and drive. That's another thing that's going to break. Overtime turning a knob like that eventually is going to break and then what you're not going to be able to move the car. Let's go back at least on trucks to put back the old shift column. Makes you wonder where are these engineers heads are. There are a bunch of suits that sit out a computer screen all day and know nothing about being out in the real world and using a truck for what it really is supposed to be for..
@westcoastronnieOC714 Agreed 100%, heck you can even take a 6.8L SOHC 2V or 3V Triton V10 and custom make it into a 6.8L DOHC 40V Triton V10 and make dead more reliable than any Ecoboost engine Ford makes and not to mention outlast any Ecoboost vehicle as well.
There was a time when Ford made everything themselves for quality control. Unfortunately those days are long gone and Ford is subject to suppliers’ quality issues.
Meanwhile at GM the 2.7 seems to be pretty bulletproof so far after 6 model years. Ford's problems seem to be QC with sourcing parts. In this case intake valves. Toyota's problem is much much worse, it's their assembly process itself which is in question, at least what the official story is.
Recalls suck but there actually a good thing. Atleast the manufacturers fix the problem. Now, when i was a kid vehicles were always broke down and no manufacturers acknowledged the problem you were on your own. People don't admit it but vehicles have only gotten more reliable even with all the fancy tech. Social media makes things look worse but you don't see many problems in the real world.
true but when there is a problem, its big and im talking big money to fix, old cars could be fixed fast and at a decent price. todays cars are throw away cars
No it has not. The 2.7L, especially in the F150, has probably been the most reliable motor they have except for the base NA V6. The 5.0 has had more issues.
@Jay-me7gw Ask any Ford tech what motor blows up the most. It's the 2.7. Yep, the 3.5 and the 5.0L have issues too. The 2.7 has the most catastrophic failures.
Why can't we just have more small displacement diesel engines. Power and efficency all in one. Oh wait, that would make too much sense. We have only one left in the GM lineup, which will probably get the axe soon since they are actually marketing their Turbomax engine now. Ok, rant over.
@Pickuptrucktalk all these new trucks run hotter , have higher pressure and use thinner oil than ever before. The more mechanical parts, higher pressures and heat your just bound to have problems. That's just facts no matter how the manufacturers wanna spin it .
@@371kenny If the hotter temps and pressures were a big failure point, wouldn't you think that would impact all the Ford EcoBoost engines going back to 2009? That's 15 years of Ford turbocharged engines.
This crazy Why does ford make 2.7L 3.0L 3.5L 3.7L all four , can’t they just rid off 2.7L and streamline and just make better engines unrealistic stupidity
Hi Tim, First things first: I’ve been a FORD man for over 40 years, so this problem will soon pass, like all the others have! What Ford will probably do, will send us a letter telling us of the recall and to stand by for the recall notice. They've done it before they'll probably do it again. Another thing to realize about the 91K vehicles affected: My wife several years ago, bought a used (from the dealership) Mercury MKZ, a short time after purchase we brought it back to the dealer (with the engine light illuminated), service diagnosed antifreeze leaking into the block. They said don't worry about it, we'll take care of the problem! After three months we had our vehicle back with a new block. The dealer could not have been more accommodating and supportive in this endeavor. The point being, if one vehicle takes 3 months to replace the block and you’ve got 91K of these coming along, with similar work, dealership technicians are going to be very, very busy! 🛻
FORD has many problems. This 3.0 liter recall. The 1.0 liter recall due to timing belts falling-apart & clogging oil pump. The class-action lawsuit on their dual-clutch transmissions Ford sucks.
90,000 recalls but about 1% of those are possible problems. So, not nearly as bad as the media makes it out to be. I'm driving my 2nd F150 with the 2.7 and love them. Awesome engine.
Old news, this is/was a known issue with the 2.7 in the early Broncos that ate an intake valve. The problem was with a supplier and has been resolved, I doubt that Ford will need to replace any more engines over this. It’s not like the Tundra engine replacement program.
Todays engines are true high performance master pieces. I mean, the new Dodge Hurricane 6 cylinder makes 540hp out of 182 cubic inches. The old 225 cube slant six with the hyper-pack, multicarb set up only made 180hp. The cylinder pressures with the turbos must be unimaginable! 🤔
Hopefully these companies will learn their lessons and stop building these tiny GTDI engines. Give us naturally aspirated engines and clean up emissions post combustion. The technology and patients are there to do it.
@@Jay-me7gw because these engines run way more cylinder pressure and heat to achieve the same work as a V8. That stress is why these manufacturers are having these recalls
Easily is a bit of a stretch. The cars in question were being manufactured barely more than 3 years ago or less than 3 years ago(May 2021 to October 2021). Meaning the car would have had to have been delivered to the owner in June or July and the engine have had to blow up in the last month after their 3 year/36k expired. And honestly, people have known about this for like two years now, so Ford was certainly well aware. I’m sure that if somebody had been denied a replacement engine under warranty, we would’ve already heard about it
@@Jay-me7gw True and true. Now the lifter issue is 1.4 percentage failure rate. I bet most people don’t change oil on time. One route cause. Manifold bolt breaks. Soooo… That is a poison that I will pick. Cheaper to repair. Not like turbo issues, cam phasers etc. higher cost and higher percentage failure rate. So the Hemi tick and maybe, just maybe a lifter issue. Still cheaper to repair if it should happen. They’ll have problems of course. Which expensive or destructive issue do people want to chose? Cheers
@@ramrider1453 turbos don’t fail often and are actually really easy to replace. They hang off the side of the manifold. It’s probably easier than a manifold. Ecoboost turbos are typically $400 so it’s not expensive either. And 1.4% I higher than the failure rate for the recall this video is about. I believe it’s less than 1%. Cam phasers were not an issue on the 2.7 or 3.0, only the 3.5, and only for 2 or so years. They have not been an issue since Ford started putting the updated phaser in at the factory in November 2019, so 5 years ago. That’s ancient history at this point. If people are still getting phaser jobs done it’s 2018 and 2019’s that the owners never got fixed under the TSB.
I hope people are starting to notice the pattern which is all of these tiny overstressed turbo engines are absolute garbage. It does not matter on the manufacturer it’s a technology that was unproven and confused to show why companies like Saab went out of business because it’s an epic failure.
Most engines suck. GM can’t get to 100k miles with either V8 without having lifters fail. Hemi lifters are a problem. Even the 5.0 coyote has issues. I’ve actually heard decent reviews about the 2.7 with 200k+ miles. Point is, a good design and quality manufacturing is more impactful on reliability than turbos or displacement. Diesels have been running turbos and high pressure fuel for decades- and some were terribly unreliable and some could go a million miles with regular maintenance.
@@Lq32332 I agree with you. You made a great comment and I think you made some good points. Honestly this is just my opinion I don’t trust anything made post Covid. Everything is cheaply made and on top of that 2022 is when all the new church of global warming bullshit went into effect so things are even worse than ever before. personally, I drive a tundra 5.7 L V8 I hope to God that truck never dies from some bimbo texting and hitting me. I can tell you if it’s up to me it’ll last forever because I take good care of it.
To be fair, Ford is doing something about it. Toyota was slow to recall the 3.4 and there are failures in 2024 MY and 2024 production year which is well outside the recall notice. GM on the other hand knows about lifter issues and just keeps building them anyways. lol
@@cpftank09 you’re defending Fords garbage?? lol they have so many issues they can’t even keep track of them. What about Fords cam phaser issue? Or all their failing motors and transmissions? Or the cam and lifter issues on the 7.3? Ford quality has been the worst of any for years. Don’t defend garbage
@@cpftank09 until greed leaves this country and also around the world these car manufacturers are going to have nothing but problems. Until you start making every thing of a car here in this country making every single part of the internals of the engine here this is never going to stop. You can't trust these outsiders to build good parts. Every time something goes wrong internally with an engine regardless of who the manufacturer is they always blame the outside company for not making the internal parts of an engine properly. Once again until you get rid of greedy CEOs and greedy shareholders and keep making cars and trucks like garbage and only to last a certain amount of time this is never going away. The only way it's going to go away is to not buy these products and just customize a car yourself and put the best in it and not buy these manufacturer garbage vehicles. Also maybe just going to back to basics and not having so much technology in a vehicle will make these vehicles from every manufacturer more reliable. the consumer don't need all kinds of things in a car while they're driving they're supposed to be worrying about getting from point A to point b.
Ford did not do an official recall from when they found the issue Jan 25, 2022 until Aug 16 2024! @6:48 Ford is know for their quality issues and im sure its not surprising. Recently fords fix for the bronco sport and escapes cracked fuel injectors was to put a drain to stop fuel dumping on the engine and install a software patch to detect fuel pressure drop. Ford didn't even want to replace the fuel injectors! NHTSA had to get involved and tell ford they needed a better solution!
@@joshm9003 yep! These are the facts. Ford quality has been horrendous the last 4 years and anyone who makes excuses or defends them is just a blind fan boy
@Billybob50119 it's amazing how people continue to coddle ford like a bad child and just excuse all their problems and bad designs. I still see people say the 6.0 diesel is one of the best diesel engines every made haha but you have to dump $1,000s just to built proof it because ford had so many design problems! Ford even threw International under the bus trying to blame them for the bad design even tho ford approved it haha
See people Ford takes care of their customers. The sad part is that now that this is a recall Ford is going to cut probably 5-7hrs off the labor to replace the engines.
@@Billybob50119 don't forget Fords fix for the bronco sport and escapes cracked fuel injectors was to put a drain so the fuel wouldn't puddle on the engine and install a software patch to detect fuel pressure drop. NHTSA had to step in and tell ford that their solution wasn't good enough! Ford didn't even want to replace the fuel injectors! Imagine that! Don't even forget Fords mishandling of the powershift transmissions they openingly knew they produced defective transmissions and still put them in cars!
I blame Government. EPA standards and regulations force all car makers to build complicated emissions-minded vehicles. I believe car makers want to build more simplstic, reliable trucks but cannot. They are forced to come up with ways and ideas to save on gas/emissions. The answer...less Government.
This valve failure issue was problematic years ago. Why is it taking this long to address the problem? Way to go ford. Another great engineering failure. Ford quality is job NONE…..
Im not sure how you can make that statement when they only produced like 10 of those things. One failure would be like 10% of the total produced engines.
@@Pickuptrucktalk I have known about this for quite awhile. A few of the 2021 & 2022 engines had intake valves that were improperly manufactured and subsequently fractured. They fractured at low mileage. Those who have 30,000 + miles on the engine should not worry.
Yes, Ford will have to replace. Yes, Toyota will have to replace, don’t we see an increasing pattern here? IYes, Ford will have to replace. Yes, Toyota will have to replace, don’t we see a increasing pattern here? I don’t understand how anybody can say that vehicles are getting better. vehicle manufacturers are cutting corners at every turn. More plastics in the engine, thinner, aluminum, longer oil intervals. I get it. They are forced into doing this and that isn’t their fault. vehicles as a whole are getting less reliable, and vehicles now are at an average of $11,000 more than they were five years ago. No-win situation for the consumer. Take care of the vehicles that you have now, the ones that are older, because they are going to be worth a lot more than you think
haha so glad i got a new tundra with the 3.5 yesterday...instead of this American crap.. i wont have to worry about engine problems like these american trucks for like 15 years
You haven’t been around the 22+ Tundras long then. There are Tundra engine failures daily, even 2024 hybrids. Look, I’m a Toyota nerd, but Ford seems like the best overall truck right now.
Here is the link to the story: pickuptrucktalk.com/2024/09/ford-trucks-suvs-recall-91k-for-catastrophic-engine-failure/
Toyota: "We will be issuing a massive engine recall with new Tundra"
Ford: "Hold my beer..."
No, Toyota still wins this one. They are actually replacing 100k motors, Ford is not
😂
@@Jay-me7gwthanks for setting the record straight.
Toyota's 90k recall is a recall of 90% of the 3.5tt engines produced VS Ford, which has produced multiple millions of the ecoboost.
@Jay-me7gw At least Toyota stands behind they're products while Ford doesn't.
The last time I took a vehicle to a Ford dealer was to replace a blend door motor on an F150. They charged a couple hundred dollars and didn't even tighten the screws all the way. I found out when it started making noise again and decided to fix it myself. God help anyone who needs a whole engine replaced at a Ford dealership.
I had a similar experience when I had the brake booster replaced under recall on my F150. There were multiple sensors left unplugged and a band clamp left off the intake in the bottom of the engine bay. I didnt even make it out of the parking lot before the check engine light.
But I had the same thing happen at the Lexus dealer who were doing a recall on my Lexus GX460.
Moral of the story, they all suck. This is why I do my own work on my cars.
Ford marketing about to be like “recall leader for last 75 years!”
Now thats funny.
? Hyundai and Kia have way more recalls than everyone...xd
@@1976axerhand you didn’t get the sarcastic joke….
Ford remains the KING of recalls!!!
And here Toyota thought they could muscle that title away...pfffft!
Not with their coyotes
@@jjpark1989The 5.0L Coyote V8 (from 2011-2017) are awesome the EcoBoost engines (both 2.7 and 3.5) not so much.
@@Dusdaddy😂
It still shocks me to see Ford making Ram look good in the reliability department.
At least Ford is giving very specific details on what went wrong and why. Toyota’s mfg debris statement still seems vague and frankly not believable (especially considering trucks newer than the recalled dates are still having the same issue).
Even before this recall, a Ford engine mechanic told me that if you are going to buy an F150, only get the normally aspirated 5.0 V8. Too many problems with all the V6 turbos.
The 2.7 and 3.5 are great engines. I own all three currently.
It's been that same story since 2011.
@@peiguy1982 The 3.5 and 2.7 are good engines. I run a fleet of them and have a couple personal ones.
2.7 is an amazing engine, this is supplier bullshit.
@@cwqrpportable Yeah well my 2013 threw the con rod at 2 years old and 65k km. Disagree. Canada puts different stress cycles on them up here maybe.
so many recalls now adays. They just don't build them like they use too.
DEI based labor force.
Ford owners. “Yea those damn 5.3’s and the lifter issues”
Chevy owners: “Yeaaa”
It's really sad now Trucks have gotten so expensive and every brand is junk now. GM, FORD, RAM and even Toyota.
Couldn't agree more. I'm really torn for what to buy in the next few years. It's all junk!
There is more accountability now to, previously cars just got fixed under warranty and not a lot of keeping track of these things.
Massive blame due to the near impossible demands and hoops of the EPA & C.A.F.E. regulations
Those are the reasons why I bought the 2024 Nissan Titan with the 5.6L Endurance V8 in it with 400 HP and 413 Ibs of Torque.
@@CJColvin solid buy Nissan feels like the new toyota
At least theyre fixing and standing behind models. Anything w moving parts are gonna have some issues and its how those are handled. Thx sir great info!
Yup.... I wonder what the toyota haters from Ford have to say about this..... I'm sure it's gonna be ok.
Im a Toyota hater but don't drive a Ford lol
What I am wondering as well
Difference is they are not replacing 100k engines like Toyota has to do.
BTW, this same thing happened on early 5.7L Toyota motors. There was quite a few 5.7's that dropped valves and took out the motor. There is a thread on the Land Cruiser forum im on right now.
Both trash but watching how they fix the problem. Of course fanboys will still deny it. It’s obvious yoda fanboys are the worst
@@kdavid123186 Yoda fanboys are absolutely the worst. And this is coming from a guy who has owned a 1995 4Runner, 2011 Lexus GX460 and currently owns an 2018 LX570.
Ive owned lots of different brands over the years and the Toyota fanboys are easily the worst. It’s so bad that, even as a Toyota owner, I still troll them because they are so obnoxious.
The problem was poor management….
Seems like an extension of the valve spring recall that 2.7 Bronco owners had a year or so ago.
How long have they made the 2.7? Really Ford? I would never consider the brand. They are completely out of control as far as fixing chronic QC issues.
Amen!!! 😂 Your correct
at least they are fixing them.
@@Jay-me7gw They should or they won’t sell trucks anymore. Fords best interest.
@ramrider1453 For me I'll stick with the 2024 Nissan Titan with the 5.6L Endurance V8 in it
From single best selling vehicle to fourth but still first in recalls. Good work. Uaw should be proud
I'll stick to my 2024 Nissan Titan with the 5.6L Endurance V8 in it.
The recall involves testing - only a fraction (1%) are suspected of needing replacement
Correct. All the Ford haters don't mention this.
All that hate from Ford people on our #Ram is showing us how great the Ram is. They all have problems, but the fact that our new Ram SST 1500 not only beat the ford up the TFL toaster, it did it with many disadvantages and an unproven drivetrain.
We will purchase an aftermarket warranty. Why? Because we keep our Rams forever. Our oldest Ram in our collection is almost a quarter of a century old. It's a 1500 4x4 and has never left us stranded 1 time. The new Ram is just unbelievable. We don't want our new truck to be loud. I love my old v8s, but the inline 6 is better for us. The feel/fit and interior are class leading. But the ride to quality and performance experience is really a whole other level.
You do you, but we work in security. #Ram is the only option.
God Speed, only Jesus saves.
Ford has been neglecting things for decades
Ford…issuing recalls is Job One!
Also alot of these newer engines have open deck cylinder wall cooling which is hell on head gasgets ! Not sure why but could be to save weight -metal and lower engine noise !
Head gaskets really have not been an issue on the Ecoboosts, with the exception of the 2.3L that was in the Focus RS tuned to like 350hp. Guys run huge power numbers in the 3.5 and 3.0L and I've not heard of any head gaskets.
I wonder if an open deck block is cheaper to make? Casting wise.
The 2.7 is a closed deck, very well built. This sounds like defective manufacturing ,not design
I seem to remember the old Chevy 2.2L had a reputation for valves breaking off. You used to see a lot of cars for sale with “just a misfire in one cylinder, probably needs a coil” in the ad.
Is there any truck out there right now that just works and doesn't have any recalls or serious issues?? Tundra with engine bearing issues, Tacoma with transmission issues, Ford with all of this, GM and all of their 8 speed stuff... It's ridiculous.
Yes, the 2024 Nissan Titan with a V8 that is being discontinued. Go figure.
I don't understand how ford can stay in business. It seems like every year they're recalling vehicles. How does a company stay in business having to fix all these recalls? It's funny back in the day without technology we built great cars that lasted forever. Now they have to seem to build cars with all kinds of electronic gadgets and computer modules to the point where nothing's reliable. Does everything have to run on computer modules? Can some things just go back to the way they were . Half the stuff in vehicles we don't use as we're driving anyways. Can you imagine trying to use every little gadget in a car while you're driving you would be distracted and probably in a car accident. And what's funny is no matter how many recalls Ford has people still buy these vehicles at this point who's stupid? This goes out to every car manufacturer you don't need to put everything running on computer modules. The only thing that needs to run on a computer module is the engine and transmission and that's it. Everything should just go back to basics. A few airbags inside and that's about it. Put on your seatbelt and not worry about anything. I don't feel sorry the people keep buying Ford products that you're the one that needs to look in the mirror and ask yourself why? If anybody's going to spend $60 to $100,000 on a car get yourself a classic car go to a custom shop and build that car from the ground up and you can put anything you want in there as you're building it and it'll be more reliable than what comes from a factory. And if you are spending $60 to $100,000 on your vehicle, then you need to have your head examined. Also one more thing let's do away with a knob to putting the car in reverse and drive. That's another thing that's going to break. Overtime turning a knob like that eventually is going to break and then what you're not going to be able to move the car. Let's go back at least on trucks to put back the old shift column. Makes you wonder where are these engineers heads are. There are a bunch of suits that sit out a computer screen all day and know nothing about being out in the real world and using a truck for what it really is supposed to be for..
@westcoastronnieOC714 Agreed 100%, heck you can even take a 6.8L SOHC 2V or 3V Triton V10 and custom make it into a 6.8L DOHC 40V Triton V10 and make dead more reliable than any Ecoboost engine Ford makes and not to mention outlast any Ecoboost vehicle as well.
There was a time when Ford made everything themselves for quality control. Unfortunately those days are long gone and Ford is subject to suppliers’ quality issues.
Meanwhile at GM the 2.7 seems to be pretty bulletproof so far after 6 model years. Ford's problems seem to be QC with sourcing parts. In this case intake valves. Toyota's problem is much much worse, it's their assembly process itself which is in question, at least what the official story is.
Was thinking these recalls are over till my private jet dealership recalled my jet
Cool.....so I get to pay $70k for a truck that may have a junk engine...sweet!
Recalls suck but there actually a good thing. Atleast the manufacturers fix the problem. Now, when i was a kid vehicles were always broke down and no manufacturers acknowledged the problem you were on your own. People don't admit it but vehicles have only gotten more reliable even with all the fancy tech. Social media makes things look worse but you don't see many problems in the real world.
true but when there is a problem, its big and im talking big money to fix, old cars could be fixed fast and at a decent price. todays cars are throw away cars
Whew... got a '23 F150.
It would also be nice of them to replace the plastic oil pans for any of these motors where that applies also.
3.5 eco boost engine in Canada replacement cost at dealer 25k ,
Ford went down hill
They all have
Wonder how many engine recalls in the past 5 years from all manufacturers.
More junk. Don’t they ever learn. Haven’t heard of much from Nissan trucks. The most reliable now???
Nissan has historically had pretty reliable trucks.
This is why i own GM products❤....say what you want.
That 2.7L has been tossing rods since it first came out. This is a minor recall.
No it has not. The 2.7L, especially in the F150, has probably been the most reliable motor they have except for the base NA V6. The 5.0 has had more issues.
@Jay-me7gw Ask any Ford tech what motor blows up the most. It's the 2.7. Yep, the 3.5 and the 5.0L have issues too. The 2.7 has the most catastrophic failures.
@@terrencejones9817 it does not do your research
@@jasonbrushett2005 I have 25 years of experience. I've done the research.
@@terrencejones9817 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ford will check each engine and calculates only have about a 1% engine replacement.
Why can't we just have more small displacement diesel engines. Power and efficency all in one. Oh wait, that would make too much sense. We have only one left in the GM lineup, which will probably get the axe soon since they are actually marketing their Turbomax engine now. Ok, rant over.
Here's an idea. Simplify these engines.
Intake valves are simple.
@@Pickuptrucktalk turbo pressure isn't.
@@371kenny what does the turbo have to do with brittle metal on the engine intake? Completely separate parts.
@Pickuptrucktalk all these new trucks run hotter , have higher pressure and use thinner oil than ever before. The more mechanical parts, higher pressures and heat your just bound to have problems. That's just facts no matter how the manufacturers wanna spin it .
@@371kenny If the hotter temps and pressures were a big failure point, wouldn't you think that would impact all the Ford EcoBoost engines going back to 2009? That's 15 years of Ford turbocharged engines.
Will the supplier that did the heat treating of the valves be responsible for paying for this recall??
Good question. We will probably never know.
GM you are next up!
GM has had lifter issues especially with the 6.2 that they refuse to address.
Icky boost!
Eco Boom
This crazy
Why does ford make 2.7L 3.0L 3.5L
3.7L all four , can’t they just rid off
2.7L and streamline and just make better engines unrealistic stupidity
Hi Tim, First things first: I’ve been a FORD man for over 40 years, so this problem will soon pass, like all the others have! What Ford will probably do, will send us a letter telling us of the recall and to stand by for the recall notice. They've done it before they'll probably do it again. Another thing to realize about the 91K vehicles affected: My wife several years ago, bought a used (from the dealership) Mercury MKZ, a short time after purchase we brought it back to the dealer (with the engine light illuminated), service diagnosed antifreeze leaking into the block. They said don't worry about it, we'll take care of the problem! After three months we had our vehicle back with a new block. The dealer could not have been more accommodating and supportive in this endeavor. The point being, if one vehicle takes 3 months to replace the block and you’ve got 91K of these coming along, with similar work, dealership technicians are going to be very, very busy! 🛻
FORD has many problems. This 3.0 liter recall. The 1.0 liter recall due to timing belts falling-apart & clogging oil pump. The class-action lawsuit on their dual-clutch transmissions
Ford sucks.
At ford quality is job one build ford tough.
90,000 recalls but about 1% of those are possible problems. So, not nearly as bad as the media makes it out to be. I'm driving my 2nd F150 with the 2.7 and love them. Awesome engine.
Same here. The 2.7L is a great engine. The engine is actually known for its reliability. Just change the oil every 5000 miles with full synthetic.
Old news, this is/was a known issue with the 2.7 in the early Broncos that ate an intake valve. The problem was with a supplier and has been resolved, I doubt that Ford will need to replace any more engines over this.
It’s not like the Tundra engine replacement program.
Seriously. The actually production window of affected motors was like 6 months in 2021. People are acting like all 2.7L just suck because of this.
@@Jay-me7gw I think Tim and some others get a kickback from Toyota for promoting Toyota and dissing other brands
Exacty. People forget 90k is probably 90% of the Tundra engines produced vs Fords 90k out of multiple million ecoboost engines produced.
@@dand2334 Yet still won't outlast the 5.6L Endurance V8 in the Nissan Titan.
Todays engines are true high performance master pieces. I mean, the new Dodge Hurricane 6 cylinder makes 540hp out of 182 cubic inches. The old 225 cube slant six with the hyper-pack, multicarb set up only made 180hp.
The cylinder pressures with the turbos must be unimaginable! 🤔
22psi on standard version and 26psi on high output version. that’s peak boost as stock
Dodge do not make the Hurricane engine, Stellantis does.
Also the Hurricane engines is having issues as well
Hopefully these companies will learn their lessons and stop building these tiny GTDI engines. Give us naturally aspirated engines and clean up emissions post combustion. The technology and patients are there to do it.
Why does this have aynthing to do with GTDI's? The same thing happened to the 5.7L Toyota V8. They were dropping valves into the cylinders too.
@@Jay-me7gw because these engines run way more cylinder pressure and heat to achieve the same work as a V8. That stress is why these manufacturers are having these recalls
@@ML-lg4ky it’s a manufacturing defect. The 2.7 was out for 6 years before these affected engines were produced and were not dropping valves
Fred Flintstone comes to mind.
So are they going to give back money to the people that had engine replaced before the recall?
Did those people not have warranties?
@Jay-me7gw you could easily be out of warranty on a 22 model, or if you bought a used car, it could be out of warranty.
Actually they do often reimburse for these things.
Easily is a bit of a stretch. The cars in question were being manufactured barely more than 3 years ago or less than 3 years ago(May 2021 to October 2021). Meaning the car would have had to have been delivered to the owner in June or July and the engine have had to blow up in the last month after their 3 year/36k expired.
And honestly, people have known about this for like two years now, so Ford was certainly well aware. I’m sure that if somebody had been denied a replacement engine under warranty, we would’ve already heard about it
Ford took care of many of the trucks with the fractured valves long before this recall.
Hey, when was the last time that Ram recalled the Hemi? Hmmm been awhile hey boys. But now it’s gone…
I mean, they warp exhaust manifolds and destroy cams. They probably should have been recalled numerous times.
@@Jay-me7gw True and true. Now the lifter issue is 1.4 percentage failure rate. I bet most people don’t change oil on time. One route cause. Manifold bolt breaks. Soooo… That is a poison that I will pick. Cheaper to repair. Not like turbo issues, cam phasers etc. higher cost and higher percentage failure rate. So the Hemi tick and maybe, just maybe a lifter issue. Still cheaper to repair if it should happen. They’ll have problems of course. Which expensive or destructive issue do people want to chose? Cheers
@@ramrider1453 turbos don’t fail often and are actually really easy to replace. They hang off the side of the manifold. It’s probably easier than a manifold. Ecoboost turbos are typically $400 so it’s not expensive either.
And 1.4% I higher than the failure rate for the recall this video is about. I believe it’s less than 1%.
Cam phasers were not an issue on the 2.7 or 3.0, only the 3.5, and only for 2 or so years. They have not been an issue since Ford started putting the updated phaser in at the factory in November 2019, so 5 years ago. That’s ancient history at this point. If people are still getting phaser jobs done it’s 2018 and 2019’s that the owners never got fixed under the TSB.
F150 3.5 ecoboost oil pumps
What the heck do you think FORD stands for? Fix or repair daily or found dead on road. They used to build a great product, but today no way.
What about the engine grid heater nut/bolt failure for Cummins diesel engines?
Did they issue a recall?
@@Pickuptrucktalk
It looks like there was. Also, Banks has a performance product that addresses the defect too.
@@Pickuptrucktalk
Add GM to the list of recalled engines; the 5.3 has a contamination issue as well; more on GM authority
I hope people are starting to notice the pattern which is all of these tiny overstressed turbo engines are absolute garbage.
It does not matter on the manufacturer it’s a technology that was unproven and confused to show why companies like Saab went out of business because it’s an epic failure.
Most engines suck. GM can’t get to 100k miles with either V8 without having lifters fail. Hemi lifters are a problem. Even the 5.0 coyote has issues. I’ve actually heard decent reviews about the 2.7 with 200k+ miles.
Point is, a good design and quality manufacturing is more impactful on reliability than turbos or displacement. Diesels have been running turbos and high pressure fuel for decades- and some were terribly unreliable and some could go a million miles with regular maintenance.
@@Lq32332 I agree with you. You made a great comment and I think you made some good points. Honestly this is just my opinion I don’t trust anything made post Covid. Everything is cheaply made and on top of that 2022 is when all the new church of global warming bullshit went into effect so things are even worse than ever before. personally, I drive a tundra 5.7 L V8 I hope to God that truck never dies from some bimbo texting and hitting me. I can tell you if it’s up to me it’ll last forever because I take good care of it.
To be fair, Ford is doing something about it. Toyota was slow to recall the 3.4 and there are failures in 2024 MY and 2024 production year which is well outside the recall notice. GM on the other hand knows about lifter issues and just keeps building them anyways. lol
@@cpftank09 you’re defending Fords garbage?? lol they have so many issues they can’t even keep track of them. What about Fords cam phaser issue? Or all their failing motors and transmissions? Or the cam and lifter issues on the 7.3? Ford quality has been the worst of any for years. Don’t defend garbage
@@cpftank09 until greed leaves this country and also around the world these car manufacturers are going to have nothing but problems. Until you start making every thing of a car here in this country making every single part of the internals of the engine here this is never going to stop. You can't trust these outsiders to build good parts. Every time something goes wrong internally with an engine regardless of who the manufacturer is they always blame the outside company for not making the internal parts of an engine properly. Once again until you get rid of greedy CEOs and greedy shareholders and keep making cars and trucks like garbage and only to last a certain amount of time this is never going away. The only way it's going to go away is to not buy these products and just customize a car yourself and put the best in it and not buy these manufacturer garbage vehicles. Also maybe just going to back to basics and not having so much technology in a vehicle will make these vehicles from every manufacturer more reliable. the consumer don't need all kinds of things in a car while they're driving they're supposed to be worrying about getting from point A to point b.
Ford did not do an official recall from when they found the issue Jan 25, 2022 until Aug 16 2024! @6:48
Ford is know for their quality issues and im sure its not surprising. Recently fords fix for the bronco sport and escapes cracked fuel injectors was to put a drain to stop fuel dumping on the engine and install a software patch to detect fuel pressure drop. Ford didn't even want to replace the fuel injectors! NHTSA had to get involved and tell ford they needed a better solution!
@@joshm9003 yep! These are the facts. Ford quality has been horrendous the last 4 years and anyone who makes excuses or defends them is just a blind fan boy
@Billybob50119 it's amazing how people continue to coddle ford like a bad child and just excuse all their problems and bad designs.
I still see people say the 6.0 diesel is one of the best diesel engines every made haha but you have to dump $1,000s just to built proof it because ford had so many design problems! Ford even threw International under the bus trying to blame them for the bad design even tho ford approved it haha
Ford …… cmon man 🤦♂️
This is blown out of proportion
I see what you did there
See people Ford takes care of their customers.
The sad part is that now that this is a recall Ford is going to cut probably 5-7hrs off the labor to replace the engines.
Ford was forced by the Govt to do this.
@@Billybob50119 no they weren't.
@@Billybob50119 don't forget Fords fix for the bronco sport and escapes cracked fuel injectors was to put a drain so the fuel wouldn't puddle on the engine and install a software patch to detect fuel pressure drop. NHTSA had to step in and tell ford that their solution wasn't good enough! Ford didn't even want to replace the fuel injectors! Imagine that!
Don't even forget Fords mishandling of the powershift transmissions they openingly knew they produced defective transmissions and still put them in cars!
@@joshm9003 yep Ford is king of band aide fixes for their low quality and bad designed products!
Why do all new vehicles suck
Are they partners with with Tundra's? 🙂
I'm here for all the ford owners who chirped all the Tundra owners 😂😂😂
Breaking news 🤣
I blame Government. EPA standards and regulations force all car makers to build complicated emissions-minded vehicles. I believe car makers want to build more simplstic, reliable trucks but cannot. They are forced to come up with ways and ideas to save on gas/emissions. The answer...less Government.
This valve failure issue was problematic years ago. Why is it taking this long to address the problem?
Way to go ford. Another great engineering failure. Ford quality is job NONE…..
GM, you're up....
The 3.0L diesel ⛽ was Ford's most reliable engine and they dumped it....
Im not sure how you can make that statement when they only produced like 10 of those things. One failure would be like 10% of the total produced engines.
@@Jay-me7gw Because I have one with 135k trouble free miles....
@@henryford2736 I had an Ecoboost that was trouble free for 135k. So therefore the engines must be equally reliable.
@@henryford2736 ive owned f150s with the 300 ci six that lasted close to 500000 miles
THIS IS "O L D E NEWS " BUDDY !!
It literally just became public buddy.
@@Pickuptrucktalk I have known about this for quite awhile. A few of the 2021 & 2022 engines had intake valves that were improperly manufactured and subsequently fractured. They fractured at low mileage. Those who have 30,000 + miles on the engine should not worry.
Yes, Ford will have to replace. Yes, Toyota will have to replace, don’t we see an increasing pattern here? IYes, Ford will have to replace. Yes, Toyota will have to replace, don’t we see a increasing pattern here? I don’t understand how anybody can say that vehicles are getting better. vehicle manufacturers are cutting corners at every turn. More plastics in the engine, thinner, aluminum, longer oil intervals. I get it. They are forced into doing this and that isn’t their fault. vehicles as a whole are getting less reliable, and vehicles now are at an average of $11,000 more than they were five years ago. No-win situation for the consumer. Take care of the vehicles that you have now, the ones that are older, because they are going to be worth a lot more than you think
Ford sucks
haha so glad i got a new tundra with the 3.5 yesterday...instead of this American crap.. i wont have to worry about engine problems like these american trucks for like 15 years
You haven’t been around the 22+ Tundras long then. There are Tundra engine failures daily, even 2024 hybrids. Look, I’m a Toyota nerd, but Ford seems like the best overall truck right now.
Huh? Dude your joking right? Have you no knowledge of the 100k Toyota trucks being recalled for engine replacement 😂
i should have bought the ev mustang suv instead
@@marcolcorreia Haha. I see you were joking. You and I are on the same page. ✅️
You should have done some research on that engine. Toyota is having a lot of problems with it. Good luck.