EN members who can *confidently* and *fluently* speak Japanese: Myth : Ina, Kiara, Calli Promise : Bae, IRyS Advent : FWMC Justice: _No confirmed cases yet_ ID Members: Area15: Yopi (probably[?] Risu, too) Holoro: All three of them Holoh3ro : Zeta Edit: *confidently* and *fluently*
To be fair with Karaoke machines in Japan, on top of the English Lyrics on the screen you can also see the Japanese pronunciation of Lyrics, i also accidentally pronounced English lyrics with Japanese accents when I'm singing in karaoke places in Japan lol
Living in another country, or heck, even another part of your own country, is bound to result in your picking up an accent. I lived in England for about two months and when I came back I realized I had picked up a slight English accent. It went away very quickly when I was back home, though. I don't think it's something Bae has to worry about. Even if she picks up a Japanese accent, it's not like she won't still be speaking clearly understandable English. She just might not be doing it with a heavy Aussie accent.
Same. After 2 years in uni in different region, my friend back home said that my accent changes significantly. Meanwhile I didn't notice that at all. But going back home after uni, the accent just disappears completely.
If your english level decreased from "eigo umai" to "eigo jouzu" its a problem. Sasuga HoloJP! But why so shy Bae? You with IRyS, Anya, Calli, Kiara and Fuwamoco can create entire JP gen!
Im russian, but all of my friends are from other side of the world, and speak english, and i do notice that i started thinking in english more than in russian, and when i go to the grocery store, i actually need to stop myself for a moment, and THINK what language i am gonna start speaking to the cashier XDD
As ESL living in an English speaking country, but also having native language speaking friends living in the same place as I do, I constantly need to change gears between both languages and oftentimes I will start speaking in English just for someone to point out that there's no need for that or start speaking to the cashier on my native language until their puzzled face makes me extremely embarrassed (Thank goodness for the self check out)
Tbh same. I've been learning Japanese for a while now. I did notice at some point that my "L" and "R" sounds are starting to get mixed up whenever I speak in English. This never happened before I started learning Japanese. Oh well, you get some, you lose some 💀
I have a similar problem, where it is sometimes easier for me to say something in English than my native language. The bad part is I haven't even moved. But 90% of the content I consume is in English and my work is also mostly in English. Combine that with not going out that often and yeah…
I have this issue with dutch, I'm dutch but work in a different country and do everything in English, now both my English and Dutch are like I'm not 100% fluent
I'm not fluent in japanese even after living in japan for 3 yrs But I almost forgot how to write in alphabet I mean legit forgot how to write some of the alphabet so yeah kinda understand her a little bit
Bilingual struggle let's gooooo!!! Honestly, I'm on the same boat, I have whole weeks where I don't say a single word in spanish, my first language, and when my mother calls me to talk, or I see a friend online and get into discord to talk with them, I either can't say the word I want because I've forgotten it, or I mispronounce it like a drunk brit in Benidorm at 5am. It is honestly concerning, moreso when I've noticed I don't think in spanish anymore.
Well, she can leave HoloEN and join HoloJP if she wants to I'm sure any JP members will give her warm welcome, and she's gonna much happier after that 😁
I had this exact problem when I was in Japan for a month. At first I was with other English speakers because we were there to learn Japanese, but I stayed after the semester for two weeks and only spoke English to my parents who I talked to for like 5 minutes every other night so Japanese began to sound more normal than English to me. It was very jarring and a bit scary.
I guess the likes of Bae, Irys, Fuwamoco, Kiara, Zeta They can be a transitional group between English & Japanese a buffer between the pure English hololive & pure Japanese ones (even Indonesians)
Funnily enough, I understand her quite plenty. 🤣 I'm trying to learn Japanese (Duolingo, Anime, Games, etc.) and there are times where when I try to think of a word, the Japanese comes first before the English. It doesn't help the fact that I am a Filipino who mainly speaks in English in my head and to myself. 🤣 I can still speak Tagalog quite nicely, the problem is I cam only do so when talking to someone else. Everywhere else, my go to is always English. I'm proficient with 2 languages now, and I'm adding another one. I already feel the struggle. 🤣
Yep, the more I speak english the less I can speak french for some reason. I forgot spanish entirely because I stopped using it completely for a few years, at least it wasn't useful to me
It’s time to do a trade: Bae, Anya, and IRys to HoloJP and with how much English they been speaking in their streams, Zeta, Ollie, and Kaela to HoloEN.
Mostly communicating in another language than your native can have that effect. If I didn't live and work in Germany, my German would deteriorate *so* fast.
It's pretty wild when you realize that Bae's cognitive recognition in Japanese seems to happen much faster than it does in English. She literally thinks quicker in Japanese.
I can believe that she is half Japanese mode, because her Japanese friends are there. It would actually start to concern if she talked English in Japanese accent with other English speakers.
1:12 She already losing it
I can't... 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Engrich
Anya, Bae, Fuwamoco, and Irys about to make HOLOJOUZU
With Miko as the founder with her Elite English
just saw FWMC's old records, I can say that they are basically the OG generation of weebs. their hard work has definitely paid dividends now in Cover
Don't forget Zeta will join them soon since she recently moved to Japan.
Can't wait..
Can't wait..
Anya : 1st time?
Anya everyday life
Miko : 1th time?
@@Myth31104 its 1st
@@sul-yt It's Miko.
@@tiamatslayer i mean, you should use 1st not 1th.
Wow！ Bae speaks Japanese so fluently that it doesn't feel strange to call her HoloJP.
So is Anya
Even more fluent than (former) #1 nihongo jouzu in En, Miko.
Have seen you several times so just wanted to ask, is your name a Jojo's reference?
At this point we will have to learn Japanese to watch her
Wait, Bae can speak english fluently?! First I heard of this, lol.
Yea! She's always spoken Australian after all.
@@totallyathomeThe English love language.
@@totallyathome Where's the Jdon?😂
to be fair no one speaks it fluently XD
@@LOLKIE-x9rIn my soul.
EN members who can *confidently* and *fluently* speak Japanese:
Myth : Ina, Kiara, Calli
Promise : Bae, IRyS
Advent : FWMC
Justice: _No confirmed cases yet_
ID Members:
Area15: Yopi (probably[?] Risu, too)
Holoro: All three of them
Holoh3ro : Zeta
Edit: *confidently* and *fluently*
It feels like Shiori has some half decent grasp of japanese, but is somewhat too shy to use it. But that's just from an outsider's perspective.
Shiori seems to be in that part of the language learning journey when you manage to understand a lot of things but can't really speak it yet
StarsEN:
Tempus: Axel
Armis: Jurard (I think?)
Nerissa can pretty well tho
holoEN mikochi can speak pretty good japanese too
To be fair with Karaoke machines in Japan, on top of the English Lyrics on the screen you can also see the Japanese pronunciation of Lyrics, i also accidentally pronounced English lyrics with Japanese accents when I'm singing in karaoke places in Japan lol
I love the clips where JP people complement her on her english. lol
0:28 Ingles? Ingles?
bae worried about becoming too japanese meanwhile the real threat was the spanish secretly sneaking into her brain.
@@mayayamato7351Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Bae really is becoming HoloJP.
Eigo jouzu'd, her japanese speech was smoother at the end though lmao
Living in another country, or heck, even another part of your own country, is bound to result in your picking up an accent. I lived in England for about two months and when I came back I realized I had picked up a slight English accent. It went away very quickly when I was back home, though.
I don't think it's something Bae has to worry about. Even if she picks up a Japanese accent, it's not like she won't still be speaking clearly understandable English. She just might not be doing it with a heavy Aussie accent.
Same. After 2 years in uni in different region, my friend back home said that my accent changes significantly. Meanwhile I didn't notice that at all. But going back home after uni, the accent just disappears completely.
i dont think bae is actually worried about it. the entire scenario is just funny.
one day, an unconfirmed tab will be added to the holojp list with bae in it or (JP?) will be added to her name in the holo site
Anya too
If your english level decreased from "eigo umai" to "eigo jouzu" its a problem. Sasuga HoloJP!
But why so shy Bae? You with IRyS, Anya, Calli, Kiara and Fuwamoco can create entire JP gen!
Zeta recently moved to Japan, right? we have a new entry
@@shaoronmdindo represent, let's go zeta
0:30 Ah yes, some spanish or Filipino accent right there
INGURISHU!!
Im russian, but all of my friends are from other side of the world, and speak english, and i do notice that i started thinking in english more than in russian, and when i go to the grocery store, i actually need to stop myself for a moment, and THINK what language i am gonna start speaking to the cashier XDD
As ESL living in an English speaking country, but also having native language speaking friends living in the same place as I do, I constantly need to change gears between both languages and oftentimes I will start speaking in English just for someone to point out that there's no need for that or start speaking to the cashier on my native language until their puzzled face makes me extremely embarrassed (Thank goodness for the self check out)
"It's like riding a bike, you never forget." - Mr. Krabs
Bae: "Am I a HoloJP member?"
Chat: "Always have been"
She needs to embrace the Jouzu.
Bae's next Karaoke is gonna start with a cover of "Turning Japanese" by The Vapors.
Bae: I THINK I'M TURNING JAPANESE 🎶
I REALLY THINK SO
we need a member swap soon. a JP holomem slowly learning and being fluent in english sounds neato
2:03 Yep, there she goes, never beating the HoloJP allegations. 🤣
This is literally me with English vs my mother tongue.
SOMEONE CALL THE VAPORS! Their song came true!
anya be.....
she sometimes forgot indonesia ....
and there are some Indonesian words that she doesn't know what it means
Tbh same. I've been learning Japanese for a while now. I did notice at some point that my "L" and "R" sounds are starting to get mixed up whenever I speak in English. This never happened before I started learning Japanese.
Oh well, you get some, you lose some 💀
Yagoo:
*ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN*
Her Japanese sounds so cute and natural. Almost like it's her first language...
Bae should just accept the facts, she belongs in holoJP like anya. Also love the way you zoom in on Bae everytime she takes a sniff
Eigo jouzu
She's evolving into HALOS BAELZ
I have a similar problem, where it is sometimes easier for me to say something in English than my native language. The bad part is I haven't even moved. But 90% of the content I consume is in English and my work is also mostly in English. Combine that with not going out that often and yeah…
same, if I want to think in my native language i have to do it with intent and do it activly
Goodness gracious I was laughing 😂😂😂
IRyS: first time?
She's evolving
dude if bae did forget how to speak en i gotta start learning jp!
Get this girl a couple teaspoons of Vegemite quick!
That'll bring out the Aussie in her real quick, though it won't be streamer friendly. 😏
Petition to transfer mikochi to promise and Bae to JP. you wouldn't notice a thing that chaos is missing from promise.
I can't watch a lot of her collab streams because of it. Good for her tho.
the zoom-ins at every sniff are amazing
I have this issue with dutch, I'm dutch but work in a different country and do everything in English, now both my English and Dutch are like I'm not 100% fluent
What a graffic revelation...or Holo-grapffic *badums*
I'm not fluent in japanese even after living in japan for 3 yrs But I almost forgot how to write in alphabet I mean legit forgot how to write some of the alphabet so yeah kinda understand her a little bit
Bilingual struggle let's gooooo!!!
Honestly, I'm on the same boat, I have whole weeks where I don't say a single word in spanish, my first language, and when my mother calls me to talk, or I see a friend online and get into discord to talk with them, I either can't say the word I want because I've forgotten it, or I mispronounce it like a drunk brit in Benidorm at 5am.
It is honestly concerning, moreso when I've noticed I don't think in spanish anymore.
Anya 🤝 Bae
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Literally getting dragged by both JP viewers and JP talents to their side.
べーちゃん英語上手だね！
Her english was concerning since the beginning, what with being aussie and all
Well, she can leave HoloEN and join HoloJP if she wants to
I'm sure any JP members will give her warm welcome, and she's gonna much happier after that 😁
hololive isn't niji, there isn't a english vs japanese 12 meter high wall here
I had this exact problem when I was in Japan for a month. At first I was with other English speakers because we were there to learn Japanese, but I stayed after the semester for two weeks and only spoke English to my parents who I talked to for like 5 minutes every other night so Japanese began to sound more normal than English to me. It was very jarring and a bit scary.
Well _that_ sure backfired...!
Bae: sniffs
SodaFunk: let's zoom in for a closer close up
Don't worry Bae, you sound like you just came off the set of "Neighbours" to me
she can make an event out of it if it gets really bad... EN Graduation Stream in morning... right after that ends, JP Debut Stream in afternoon :p
I guess the likes of Bae, Irys, Fuwamoco, Kiara, Zeta
They can be a transitional group between English & Japanese
a buffer between the pure English hololive & pure Japanese ones
(even Indonesians)
She's already speaking passion english I can't 😂
Funnily enough, I understand her quite plenty. 🤣 I'm trying to learn Japanese (Duolingo, Anime, Games, etc.) and there are times where when I try to think of a word, the Japanese comes first before the English. It doesn't help the fact that I am a Filipino who mainly speaks in English in my head and to myself. 🤣 I can still speak Tagalog quite nicely, the problem is I cam only do so when talking to someone else. Everywhere else, my go to is always English. I'm proficient with 2 languages now, and I'm adding another one. I already feel the struggle. 🤣
Yep, the more I speak english the less I can speak french for some reason.
I forgot spanish entirely because I stopped using it completely for a few years, at least it wasn't useful to me
her and irys really are a match made in heaven
Waiting for chat to one point just say “?” “What did she say?” “Bae what?” “We didn’t understand you”
It’s time to do a trade: Bae, Anya, and IRys to HoloJP and with how much English they been speaking in their streams, Zeta, Ollie, and Kaela to HoloEN.
Time to graduate her from HoloEN and debut her in HoloJP 7th Gen
Funny how Wife Irys had this same conversation on her stream not long ago.
Might want to join the English Corner Bae
Its ok, Kanade and Ririka are great additions to HoloEN, preceeded by their counterparts Haachama and Coco.
How could I forget Elite Miko.......
I mean it's happening to her wife too so we just need HoloCross with Bae, Irys, Calli, and Anya XD
Like they say, "use it or lose it" 😂
Yeah moving to Japan or any countries with a different language long enough can decrease your previous language skill, it's called immersive learning.
Polyglot's dilemma, basically
We do need HoloJouzu as a new unit after all..😌
Baelz got drafted
anya: holojp > holoid
cali: holoen > holo jp
kanade: holojp > holoen
zeta: holoid > holojp
bae: holoen > holojp
my prediction next:
kaela: holoid>holoen
korone:holojp>holoid
kiara: holoen>holojp
kronii: holoen>holoid
marine: holojp>holoid
reine: holoid>holoen
hachama: holojp>holoen
Mostly communicating in another language than your native can have that effect. If I didn't live and work in Germany, my German would deteriorate *so* fast.
The rat of chaos.the only chaos she brings is to herself 🤣
It's pretty wild when you realize that Bae's cognitive recognition in Japanese seems to happen much faster than it does in English.
She literally thinks quicker in Japanese.
Yare yare, Bae got her Japanese accent by living in Japan while I got my accent by binge watching jojo. Tch.
Bae is HoloJP
Kroni is HoloID
this feels like a sports player trade off
I can believe that she is half Japanese mode, because her Japanese friends are there.
It would actually start to concern if she talked English in Japanese accent with other English speakers.
Language Attrition is a known phenomenon.
If she is Spanish, she would totally say "Don't habla Eigo"
Just like IRyS before joining HoloEN (ﾟ∀。)
When your love for Japanese language and culture is so great that you completely forget about your English roots.
Bae speaks English : Heeeeee, sugoi
Irys : this is like dejavu
ngl, it's goals
Wow I can't believe she will be moved from Hololive English to Hololive Hololive
Pretty sure I remember a clip of IRyS saying she joined HoloEN so she could actually speak English more.
Ngl her Japanese do sound smoother here in the clip lol
I'm more at awe at how calli can speak Japanese in a texan accent 😂
Most of the time i tune in her stream or clips, she speaks Japanese
Well, Calli and Irys are considered as "JP Talent" by Cover.
Personally I also think a lot in English, and it's my 3rd language 😂
Well, guess she will *have* to hang out with IRYS more. Just for language practice of course.
Bae literallg living every weeb's dream lol
I feel like soon enough Bae will become a Jp vtuber😂
An anglophone thinking her "r"s were ever pronounced clearly, cute.
Holo's next gen will be Hololive Japanglishonesian
An F in English? Bae you speak english!
We have new holo JP now !!
Year 3 Day 309 of asking Soda to become my mom. Hakotaro eigo jouzu desu ne?
Good job, Bae 😂
Her voice changes quite a bit when she speaks japanese.