I bought the same paddle from Alibaba. I have the one with the green edge guard which was marketed as a Magnus clone and the pictire showed a paddle with partial Joola graphics. Re eived the same blank black and was slightly disappointed. However, after playing with it for about 3 weeks now, 6 days a week for about 60 hours total, I LOVE this paddle. My paddle progression over the last 4 montjs has been from a Joola Perseus Gen 2 to a Gearbox Pro Power Elongated to this. Believe it or not, this is my favorite. I felt the Perseus didnt have the power i wanted, the Gearbox had too much (great groundstrokes and NVZ play, but after a month, i stipl couldnt keep my serves in), and this one is a great compromise between those 2. Definitely more power than the Perseus, but not as much as the Gearbox, and more control than both. I find i have tremendous, controllable power on groundstrokes, great pop at the NVZ, and exceptional spin which allows me to consistently hit the best serves ive ever hit. I get great topspin on my serves and can consistently keep them within the deepest part of the box 1 - 3 feet from the baseline. Im thrilled with the purchase and very glad their minimum purchase was 2 units so now i have an extra one. Btw, im about a 3.9 player. Sorry tjis was so long, but i thought it would be helpful for anyone considering buying one. I highly recommend! Still would live to see one cut open though.
you shouldn't get used to the Gen3, it's basically cheating. Most pros don't even like it and you have an immediate advantage over everyone else on the court. If you're 3.9 with the paddle, you're probably more like 3.5 without it
I also ordered the same paddles from the same vendor and my experience is similar. I also own a real Gen 3 and they feel like regular previous Gen paddles. The vendor however contends that it is a Gen 3 core -- to the point where they said if you cut it open and it isn't, they would refund 100%.
theyre the same paddles from the same factory right? if not im guessing theyre made using the same process? there is no chance that a plastic honey comb + layer of carbon fiber is worth over $5 let alone $300
@@ShrimpCracka I'm not sure about that to be honest. like I said the paddles don't feel the same at all. and newsflash: When you're paying that much above cost for anything, you're paying for marketing, R&D, etc etc. Even your Cheerios you're paying into the profit margins.
I'm always curious about what's being offered on AliExpress. Especially the Juciao brand and their quality/reliability. My friend has two and in a months time they seem to hold up.
Why didn’t you cut open one of the clones to see if the design corresponds to the Joolas? I’m so doing, you would’ve bolstered your credibility by quite a bit; after all, you’re giving us subjective impressions versus objective dimensions.
I ordered a Jikego Kevlar carbon fiber mix paddle off Aliexpress a few months ago and improved my game significantly over the Joola Gen 1 I was using. I love it; Decided to order a Gen 3 clone off of Alibaba (not the same company hoping to get a design on the paddle as these look terrible in the video. ). Good luck
Good to know! I tried the clone for about an hour and it seemed to be roughly the same power levels whereas the real gen 3 was powerful immediately. I’ll keep trying to “break in” the clones.
The ruby is not a great comparison because it's got Kevlar in the face which alters the play/sound profile compared to normal raw carbon fiber gen 2 and gen 3.
The Kevlar doesn’t make that much of a difference. It’s basically just a Gen 2 paddle that the Kevlar gives a plusher feel too. Power and pop are the same.
😅bro "The JOOLA Ben Johns Hyperion pickleball paddle is an elongated paddle with a hybrid shape that falls between standard and elongated paddle shapes"
No code specifically for the paddle but there’s a signup link in the description for some general Alibaba coupons that you can use on the paddles or other items
That's because it's not. Anyone buying these is mostly doing it for fun and only to use during rec play, if anything. There are plenty of non-approved paddles used in rec play.
Guessing it’s a gen 2 Joola clone. Thank you for doing this, need to do more!
I bought the same paddle from Alibaba. I have the one with the green edge guard which was marketed as a Magnus clone and the pictire showed a paddle with partial Joola graphics. Re eived the same blank black and was slightly disappointed. However, after playing with it for about 3 weeks now, 6 days a week for about 60 hours total, I LOVE this paddle. My paddle progression over the last 4 montjs has been from a Joola Perseus Gen 2 to a Gearbox Pro Power Elongated to this. Believe it or not, this is my favorite. I felt the Perseus didnt have the power i wanted, the Gearbox had too much (great groundstrokes and NVZ play, but after a month, i stipl couldnt keep my serves in), and this one is a great compromise between those 2. Definitely more power than the Perseus, but not as much as the Gearbox, and more control than both. I find i have tremendous, controllable power on groundstrokes, great pop at the NVZ, and exceptional spin which allows me to consistently hit the best serves ive ever hit. I get great topspin on my serves and can consistently keep them within the deepest part of the box 1 - 3 feet from the baseline. Im thrilled with the purchase and very glad their minimum purchase was 2 units so now i have an extra one. Btw, im about a 3.9 player. Sorry tjis was so long, but i thought it would be helpful for anyone considering buying one. I highly recommend! Still would live to see one cut open though.
Where did you order it from
you shouldn't get used to the Gen3, it's basically cheating. Most pros don't even like it and you have an immediate advantage over everyone else on the court. If you're 3.9 with the paddle, you're probably more like 3.5 without it
@@DannyBPlays That's interesting, because I was a 3.9 before I got it, does that mean like I'm a 4.2 or 4.3 now?
@@fishinfever3577 Alibaba. It's in the first line of my comment.
They also say you can press your fingers into the area where the “propulsion core” is and it feels softer.
I also ordered the same paddles from the same vendor and my experience is similar. I also own a real Gen 3 and they feel like regular previous Gen paddles. The vendor however contends that it is a Gen 3 core -- to the point where they said if you cut it open and it isn't, they would refund 100%.
theyre the same paddles from the same factory right? if not im guessing theyre made using the same process? there is no chance that a plastic honey comb + layer of carbon fiber is worth over $5 let alone $300
@@ShrimpCracka I'm not sure about that to be honest. like I said the paddles don't feel the same at all.
and newsflash: When you're paying that much above cost for anything, you're paying for marketing, R&D, etc etc. Even your Cheerios you're paying into the profit margins.
Not great tests.Spin tests, speed tests, etc vs Joola? cut the paddle to see if the inside has the extra foam.
I'm always curious about what's being offered on AliExpress. Especially the Juciao brand and their quality/reliability. My friend has two and in a months time they seem to hold up.
I've been playing with their approved one and it's way better than what I got for $50 off amazon.
Why didn’t you cut open one of the clones to see if the design corresponds to the Joolas? I’m so doing, you would’ve bolstered your credibility by quite a bit; after all, you’re giving us subjective impressions versus objective dimensions.
I ordered a Jikego Kevlar carbon fiber mix paddle off Aliexpress a few months ago and improved my game significantly over the Joola Gen 1 I was using. I love it; Decided to order a Gen 3 clone off of Alibaba (not the same company hoping to get a design on the paddle as these look terrible in the video. ). Good luck
Great video. Can you please give me the link where to order?
How were they shipped.? Envelope, bag, box??
Mine came 2 in a bubble wrapped bag inmside a box
you have to break in the clone and then it starts to feel more similar to the gen 3
Good to know! I tried the clone for about an hour and it seemed to be roughly the same power levels whereas the real gen 3 was powerful immediately. I’ll keep trying to “break in” the clones.
The ruby is not a great comparison because it's got Kevlar in the face which alters the play/sound profile compared to normal raw carbon fiber gen 2 and gen 3.
The Kevlar doesn’t make that much of a difference. It’s basically just a Gen 2 paddle that the Kevlar gives a plusher feel too. Power and pop are the same.
@@Xav3rageJoeX Yeah, but as you say, it gives it a plusher feel. That plusher feel comes with a different sound too.
Link to order?
You can try juciao's paddle. Many people like it.
Can you cut it open to see if it is built the same as the Gen3?
4:12 to 4:16 sounds good
This was cool. Thanks for sharing
hyperion is not hybrid shape. it's elongated. that paddle you have looks like a vatic prism clone
😅bro "The JOOLA Ben Johns Hyperion pickleball paddle is an elongated paddle with a hybrid shape that falls between standard and elongated paddle shapes"
is there a coupon code?
No code specifically for the paddle but there’s a signup link in the description for some general Alibaba coupons that you can use on the paddles or other items
@@DYPickleball if you ever become an influencer can you do a promo code as glass ankles?
Been waiting to hear about clones on YT. Temu has some really good clones too for $30-40 (not Gen 3)
Love this content. I wish more people would do more of this comparison.
It’s doesn’t say that it’s approved by the pickleball association on the paddle . Not good .
That's because it's not. Anyone buying these is mostly doing it for fun and only to use during rec play, if anything. There are plenty of non-approved paddles used in rec play.
@@sol1280 Gen 3's are also banned...
Only pros care about that. Who is going to sanction you in the club or in the park? The grandma playing across the court?
We would like to work with you to review our edgeless Kevlar. Can you share your contact info?
we have really good pickleball program, with over 1000 participants monthly at drop-in play feel free to contact me if you want to send demo paddles
am I the only one who couldn't hear any difference between any of the paddles?
Good headphones or speakers. I hear a clear diff.
They all sounded different.