You can get bigger double dogs. I’ve got them on mine. I’ve got a cs 4010, cs 590 and a 620 p. Love my echos. I’ve modded my 590 pretty good though. Ported muffler and 3 point west coast saw dogs on the 620.
I went with the 590 almost purely based on price point, $ to cc ratio. Not a pro saw but close enough and inexpensive upgrades bring it even closer to a pro saw.
I got my 590 on eBay w 24" bar for $399 US. Love it. Do the muffler mods, wakes it up quite a bit. Definitely took a few tanks to get good and broke in.
$399 sure beats the $700 at the Home Depot, here in Canada, and mine with only the 20"bar. Still, I'm happy with the saw and have considered the muffler mod, so thanks for the info. Think I might wait until after the warranty's up though. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
I have an old Husky and Homelite that I use. I think every man needs a chainsaw whether you use it or not. Love the smell of the two stroke exhaust. not ready for electric quite yet. Thanks. Stevo
Homelite eh? Dependable old saws. I'm the opposite, never cared for the smell or noise of chainsaws. Car engines, that's a different story, gotta love the rumble of well tuned american muscle. And deisel, love that knock, knock, knock. So for me I look forward to the cost of the electric saws to be more competitive, the technology is there (espec. Milwaukee). Thanks Bud
There are a LOT more upgrades to the 620 over the 590 than what you listed. The 590 has a single ring piston, the 620 has two. The 620 has a better coil and larger carburetor. The 620 has captive bar nuts. The 620 has a rim sprocket, the 590 has a spur sprocket. I can't think of anything else right now but I do know that both saws seem to bat way above their pay grade.
Thanks for the info. I would expect some such upgrades for the professional saw. It is certainly a consideration if you're going to put the saw through some heavy use.
@@turtlewolfpack6061 yeah, I looked at those two, mainly the 501, decided the extra power would serve me. In the end, I'm pretty happy with my decision.
Well if it was helpful to even just one person, my work is done. Thanks for letting me know, much appreciated. Just remember though, it's not a Stihl. Ha Ha
You left a ton out. The de Bored, Stroked 590/620 is right in the firing line and will hold its own with a Stihl 036/361 at 59cc with both having an internal clutch. (Husky: 262xp, 357/9 but no internal clutch, a 365 has a big bore but next level 36mm stroke so no “other” internal clutch on the market is like a Husky unless you squint at a Echo hard enough to see it…(359 vs 620p) If a log sits back and pinches yer bar, yes it’s common it’s easier to get your powerhead away from the widow maker/barber chair. The 620 is a ported 590 cus the chassis, bore and stroke is exactly the same. It’s a great plug and play saw because parts for its performance twin make things like carbs and coils more common. The 620 has a Ported jug and slightly different piston with dual rings. 2 rings on an chainsaw piston is a rabbit hole; drag vs holds questionable compression… wipes the cylinder walls… solid Aluminum handle and solid metal clutch cover that makes a heat sink. Yes the dogs are small and don’t bite otherwise it’s a jugged saw so you can remove the base gasket if you ever take a notion to tune your saw. Clamshells can’t do that because of the bearing caps limiting jug swapping. It is the “Rancher” of the 55 Series, whereas the 590 is just the standard: spur gear blah blah. I’m a pro saw user so I won’t even use a spur drive cuz we’ll throw chains. The 620 is the same as the 590 except for the jug, piston, Aluminum handle with Full wrap option, oooh ahhh factor you can’t stump with… the clutch cover, rim drive, unlimited coil and the carb has something in it that makes it more tunable. Really the Echo is a Stroked, de Bored, de tuned, Husqvarna “360”… but it’s not. The “Husky 460” Rancher, is a big bored 355 and they’re Clamshells so you can’t tune them to the same level as a Jugged saw. Follow the rabbit trails on the internet for Dyno Joe and his Stihl 44/46 Big Bore mods. Otherwise there are no available oem and bolt on for this saw. Same as the 36 Stihl. You have to make your own. You can not beat this saw at its price point. There is no better option for a big 58.9/60cc saw you need right now, on the market. If you don’t have a dealer just got to Home Depot. I’d take it over a 455/460 Rancher any day. Stroker will pull a 28” plus bar. Not like a Big Stihl or Husky but more common and wayyy cheaper
Thanks for that. Can't say I left it out, more like it's just outside my wheelhouse. In the end, seems to me you just gave me reason to feel even better about my decision. Thanks again.
You can get bigger double dogs. I’ve got them on mine.
I’ve got a cs 4010, cs 590 and a 620 p. Love my echos.
I’ve modded my 590 pretty good though.
Ported muffler and 3 point west coast saw dogs on the 620.
Thanks, I'll look into the dogs and I've been considering modifying the muffler as well.
Been thinking of a new echo, can't decided between the 501p, 590 and 620pw... Hard time deciding
I went with the 590 almost purely based on price point, $ to cc ratio. Not a pro saw but close enough and inexpensive upgrades bring it even closer to a pro saw.
I got my 590 on eBay w 24" bar for $399 US. Love it. Do the muffler mods, wakes it up quite a bit. Definitely took a few tanks to get good and broke in.
$399 sure beats the $700 at the Home Depot, here in Canada, and mine with only the 20"bar. Still, I'm happy with the saw and have considered the muffler mod, so thanks for the info. Think I might wait until after the warranty's up though.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
@@uglyapple did mine right away cuz a TH-camr, can't remember who, said Echo won't warranty if bought online.
@@brandonhoad9033If a TH-camr said it, it must be true!
Thanks, good info.
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for the feedback.
Great saws love mine
Yep, so far so good. Thanks
I have an old Husky and Homelite that I use. I think every man needs a chainsaw whether you use it or not. Love the smell of the two stroke exhaust. not ready for electric quite yet. Thanks. Stevo
Homelite eh? Dependable old saws.
I'm the opposite, never cared for the smell or noise of chainsaws. Car engines, that's a different story, gotta love the rumble of well tuned american muscle. And deisel, love that knock, knock, knock.
So for me I look forward to the cost of the electric saws to be more competitive, the technology is there (espec. Milwaukee).
Thanks Bud
There are a LOT more upgrades to the 620 over the 590 than what you listed.
The 590 has a single ring piston, the 620 has two.
The 620 has a better coil and larger carburetor.
The 620 has captive bar nuts.
The 620 has a rim sprocket, the 590 has a spur sprocket.
I can't think of anything else right now but I do know that both saws seem to bat way above their pay grade.
Thanks for the info. I would expect some such upgrades for the professional saw. It is certainly a consideration if you're going to put the saw through some heavy use.
@@uglyapple yup. Funny fact the 4910/501 has like only two physical differences.
@@turtlewolfpack6061 yeah, I looked at those two, mainly the 501, decided the extra power would serve me. In the end, I'm pretty happy with my decision.
@@uglyapple oh the 590 is no joke at all! I don't think for a 59cc saw there is a better one on the market for price and ability.
@@turtlewolfpack6061 rim drive sprocket real ez swap
I have 2 Stihl's A little 16" small chain and a MS461 monster . I am looking for a good in between firewood saw. Thanks
Well if it was helpful to even just one person, my work is done.
Thanks for letting me know, much appreciated.
Just remember though, it's not a Stihl. Ha Ha
You left a ton out.
The de Bored, Stroked 590/620 is right in the firing line and will hold its own with a Stihl 036/361 at 59cc with both having an internal clutch. (Husky: 262xp, 357/9 but no internal clutch, a 365 has a big bore but next level 36mm stroke so no “other” internal clutch on the market is like a Husky unless you squint at a Echo hard enough to see it…(359 vs 620p) If a log sits back and pinches yer bar, yes it’s common it’s easier to get your powerhead away from the widow maker/barber chair. The 620 is a ported 590 cus the chassis, bore and stroke is exactly the same. It’s a great plug and play saw because parts for its performance twin make things like carbs and coils more common. The 620 has a Ported jug and slightly different piston with dual rings. 2 rings on an chainsaw piston is a rabbit hole; drag vs holds questionable compression… wipes the cylinder walls… solid Aluminum handle and solid metal clutch cover that makes a heat sink. Yes the dogs are small and don’t bite otherwise it’s a jugged saw so you can remove the base gasket if you ever take a notion to tune your saw. Clamshells can’t do that because of the bearing caps limiting jug swapping. It is the “Rancher” of the 55 Series, whereas the 590 is just the standard: spur gear blah blah. I’m a pro saw user so I won’t even use a spur drive cuz we’ll throw chains. The 620 is the same as the 590 except for the jug, piston, Aluminum handle with Full wrap option, oooh ahhh factor you can’t stump with… the clutch cover, rim drive, unlimited coil and the carb has something in it that makes it more tunable. Really the Echo is a Stroked, de Bored, de tuned, Husqvarna “360”… but it’s not. The “Husky 460” Rancher, is a big bored 355 and they’re Clamshells so you can’t tune them to the same level as a Jugged saw. Follow the rabbit trails on the internet for Dyno Joe and his Stihl 44/46 Big Bore mods. Otherwise there are no available oem and bolt on for this saw. Same as the 36 Stihl. You have to make your own. You can not beat this saw at its price point. There is no better option for a big 58.9/60cc saw you need right now, on the market. If you don’t have a dealer just got to Home Depot. I’d take it over a 455/460 Rancher any day. Stroker will pull a 28” plus bar. Not like a Big Stihl or Husky but more common and wayyy cheaper
Thanks for that. Can't say I left it out, more like it's just outside my wheelhouse. In the end, seems to me you just gave me reason to feel even better about my decision. Thanks again.
Oh is that all?