i think the secret with haze rn is veil walker; the issue with her rn is that she's kind of just worse wraith that builds the same items if you entirely prioritize gun damage, so making her roaming speed that much faster actually gives her a niche imho
Right, but haze isnt wraith. She gains bullet capacity as she levels up and her smoke bomb gives insane healz and run speed. She has a fun a highly deadly dagger on short cool downs too. So abilit 1-3 are focus/hunt. 4 is great with unstopable in team fights
That Mo player has failed his purpose. Bullying the Haze is my only goal when playing MoKrill. It should be 'buy unstoppable or never ult again', when Mo is on the enemy team, smh
i dont take the game seriously nor do i play it competitively lol. sometimes i will buy them if needed but im just here to have a fun and silly time :3
@@exzyle_ I don't really think clicking a 1.25k healbane or reactive is all that competitive /gen That said, most people I see play don't tend to buy much counter stuff beyond armor and maybe something their build pre-highlights like slowing hex on warden^^ Heck, when I see most peeps click 2-3 buttons it's when everyone and their mum is having a team-huddle to beat that one char that is owning the entire lobby 😭😭
awesome lesbian couple??? us mentioned?? :3 big if true haze more like evil and intimidating horse i feel SILLY thumbnail doodle + good video + huge w + :3
just a tip: haze total ammo scales with spirit power, so instead of buying extended mag you could buy some spirit itens such as Ammo Scavenger or Mystic Reach to your ult
@@LampDoesVideogame thats kind of a defeatist mindset imo. there's nothing forcing them to add these abilities to the game and there are ways to accomplish similar results using methods that don't take away as much engagement from the players at the other end of the ability. shutting down your opponent should feel more strategic than just pressing the button that shuts down your opponent. getting hit by the "stop playing" button is way worse of a feeling then feeling like you got outplayed because with the latter, you feel like you tried and can learn something from the experience.
@@psigreen3864 The abilities in this game are very powerful so of course you would need some way of mitigating their power level. Especially if you are relying on certain abilities to outplay opponents like haze ult. Well you could just make the abilities less powerful and then there would be no need to reduce their strength but that just makes it a another shooter.
@@psigreen3864 stuns are fine; you cannot bring up fighting games without bringing up the entire design philosophy of counterplay and how present it is in mobas fighting zoners aren't fun as a rushdown character, but that's different somehow? more importantly, fighting games have had stuns and mash-out states for decades now, with varying degrees of success and bullshit associated, but they were always present
@@eirin481 you make a good point. fighting games have had them for a while. i meant moreso that since fighting games have had these things for so long that you would think that community outcry would have taught designers how it is unfun. but the other point you bring up is also good. it really does just depend on a lot of factors that are more nuanced than just "no more playing". what makes the grabs in smash bros any different than a standard stun in a moba? it's important to factor in the negativity bias when it comes to pvp game design, but it's obviously inevitable when one person has to lose and one person has to win. one would have to argue that stun mechanics tilt that bias _too far_ towards the negative, which is an argument I am not equipped to make.
It was an honor to be there and maul people as an awesome lesbian couple (ivy)
Incredible to see a thwompwalker in the wild, you have my eternal respect
@@TheShadowMarten It is my default Ivy build, I have been enlightened
i think the secret with haze rn is veil walker; the issue with her rn is that she's kind of just worse wraith that builds the same items if you entirely prioritize gun damage, so making her roaming speed that much faster actually gives her a niche imho
nah just buy attack speed and let ur passive carry as it does at least 1.5x of ur weapon dmg on top, so just spam slide and spray
Right, but haze isnt wraith. She gains bullet capacity as she levels up and her smoke bomb gives insane healz and run speed. She has a fun a highly deadly dagger on short cool downs too. So abilit 1-3 are focus/hunt. 4 is great with unstopable in team fights
people who werent there dont really how insane this comeback was
Hey das me! Fun games all around I can’t wait to play more, ggs!
That Mo player has failed his purpose. Bullying the Haze is my only goal when playing MoKrill. It should be 'buy unstoppable or never ult again', when Mo is on the enemy team, smh
I like when the active reload indicator does a little roll when you toll
Playing the game 2± months and not buying counter items 🔥🔥🔥🔥
i dont take the game seriously nor do i play it competitively lol. sometimes i will buy them if needed but im just here to have a fun and silly time :3
@@exzyle_ I don't really think clicking a 1.25k healbane or reactive is all that competitive /gen
That said, most people I see play don't tend to buy much counter stuff beyond armor and maybe something their build pre-highlights like slowing hex on warden^^ Heck, when I see most peeps click 2-3 buttons it's when everyone and their mum is having a team-huddle to beat that one char that is owning the entire lobby 😭😭
@@exzyle_ counterpoint its fun hitting debuff remover when enemy abrams pins you against wall and you shred him
@@SkeleMannknowing when and why to buy things is fairly competitive
@@stonersudowoodo7143 lmfao
Always waste your ult against a Kelvin or Haze, because they will waste their ult on you if you do not
Haze? All I see is an evil and intimidating horse...
why did you plin plin plon me out of nowhere(( it's time for a big sad and another ds walkthrough
Where is the mandatory Ivy "fanwork"
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awesome lesbian couple??? us mentioned?? :3
big if true
haze more like evil and intimidating horse i feel
SILLY thumbnail doodle + good video + huge w + :3
Foxes are cute
cutest animal probably
Truest statement
as a lesbian I can confirm that lesbianism is great and McGninnis is super butch
i love being a lesbian !!!
lesbian deadlock players? subbed.
Now do the epic homoromantic couple (abrams/seven)
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just a tip: haze total ammo scales with spirit power, so instead of buying extended mag you could buy some spirit itens such as Ammo Scavenger or Mystic Reach to your ult
why do game designers never learn from fighting games that abilities that prevent someone from playing the game aren't fun?
This is a moba. You're simply going to have those. Lol.
@@LampDoesVideogame thats kind of a defeatist mindset imo. there's nothing forcing them to add these abilities to the game and there are ways to accomplish similar results using methods that don't take away as much engagement from the players at the other end of the ability.
shutting down your opponent should feel more strategic than just pressing the button that shuts down your opponent. getting hit by the "stop playing" button is way worse of a feeling then feeling like you got outplayed because with the latter, you feel like you tried and can learn something from the experience.
@@psigreen3864 The abilities in this game are very powerful so of course you would need some way of mitigating their power level. Especially if you are relying on certain abilities to outplay opponents like haze ult. Well you could just make the abilities less powerful and then there would be no need to reduce their strength but that just makes it a another shooter.
@@psigreen3864 stuns are fine; you cannot bring up fighting games without bringing up the entire design philosophy of counterplay and how present it is in mobas
fighting zoners aren't fun as a rushdown character, but that's different somehow? more importantly, fighting games have had stuns and mash-out states for decades now, with varying degrees of success and bullshit associated, but they were always present
@@eirin481 you make a good point. fighting games have had them for a while. i meant moreso that since fighting games have had these things for so long that you would think that community outcry would have taught designers how it is unfun.
but the other point you bring up is also good. it really does just depend on a lot of factors that are more nuanced than just "no more playing". what makes the grabs in smash bros any different than a standard stun in a moba? it's important to factor in the negativity bias when it comes to pvp game design, but it's obviously inevitable when one person has to lose and one person has to win. one would have to argue that stun mechanics tilt that bias _too far_ towards the negative, which is an argument I am not equipped to make.