Dallas: Clayton threatens Wes Parmalee

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  • @sophieboatman1447
    @sophieboatman1447 6 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    "The Hell you are !" Love JR!

  • @TheCmascagni
    @TheCmascagni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Clayton’s most badass moment.

    • @sccc6758
      @sccc6758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah. Clayton was no jock but he had his moments. Clayton unlike jock always played a shinning night jock would do just as much black mailing and do whatever it took to win or make the deal and come out on top. Jock and jr shared that in common. A trait bobny lacked i loved bobby character too cause i like the thin line between the two. Such as when bobby gave up the company and gave it back to JR and telling him he could no longer wake up every day seeing what he was looking at in the mirrot. But even jock had a moral code and a line he would not step over. Admitting he taught jr every dirty trick in the book and how to always win but he never taught him when to stop and know when enough is enough the show had a brilliant writing cast thats for sure. First 6 seasons anyways especially the first 3. After jim davis/jock died the show was never quite the same

  • @TheCmascagni
    @TheCmascagni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    When you have JR speechless and Bobby shocked, you’re the real deal. Clayton was a boss here.

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Clayton was an idiot. If anything had happened to Wes, Clayton would've been the prime suspect. You don't tell someone you'll track them down & kill them.

    • @jameshendricks2197
      @jameshendricks2197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Via_The_Void He didn't give a flying f!

    • @patrickperalta59
      @patrickperalta59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Via_The_Void I agree with you that is true Clayton told everyone in that room he would kill Wes if he was proven to be a lier and not Jock............so even if Clayton never found Wes, if Wes later died Clayton would be the main suspect. so yes I agree Clayton was a idiot and a moron.

    • @darrendunn134
      @darrendunn134 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Clayton right here

    • @Greg-re7nj
      @Greg-re7nj ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Finally, Clayton showing guys!

  • @timriggins70
    @timriggins70 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Bobby: No one wants to listen to your lies.
    Wendell: Actually I do.

  • @jameskennedy4377
    @jameskennedy4377 8 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    One of the best scenes of the later seasons. The Wes/Jock question was also the last really gripping storyline of the series, imo.

    • @ShowsMorgie
      @ShowsMorgie 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      YES! I really loved the Wes Parmalee storyline!!!

    • @derrickjackson6737
      @derrickjackson6737 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's not John Ross Ewing sr Jock come from the grave and kick his ASS good.

    • @derrickjackson6737
      @derrickjackson6737 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      who sold this son of bitch a ticket

    • @derrickjackson6737
      @derrickjackson6737 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe Ewing Boys wouldn't Fuck him up real Good

    • @derrickjackson6737
      @derrickjackson6737 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He will never Jim Davis bka Jock Ewing Hell to da NAW NAW

  • @michaeljackson7732
    @michaeljackson7732 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    the irony of this is Steve Forrest and Jim Davis did an episode of night gallery together

    • @CardShopReality
      @CardShopReality ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WOW cool I wanna see that. Thumbs UP

  • @psychodelicrock12
    @psychodelicrock12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The “Wes Parmalee is Jock Ewing” is the best plot since Jock died

    • @citygirl5705
      @citygirl5705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was totally far-fetched, but it was awesome.

  • @towns316
    @towns316 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I think Wes could’ve taken Clayton

    • @caza728
      @caza728 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was pretty light on his feet making his way onto the stage.

  • @apolloniaaskew9487
    @apolloniaaskew9487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This show had the BIG men of the Old West. Howard Keel, Jim Davis , Morgan Woodward and Steve Forrest.

  • @fredricardo3272
    @fredricardo3272 6 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Let me tell you one thing, at the end of the episode when Clayton tells Parmalee that he’ll track him down and kill him; the reaction in Bobby’s eyes was priceless. Truly one of the best scenes in Dallas history.

    • @sugarbaby547
      @sugarbaby547 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      plus the music at the end...

    • @JohnBlack2345
      @JohnBlack2345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Bobby never heard Clayton guarantee a man he would kill him if he found out he was a liar. JR looked like he was rather proud of Clayton.

    • @fredricardo3272
      @fredricardo3272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      JohnBlack2345 ...I’m sure he was.

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Clayton was still an idiot though!

    • @patrickperalta59
      @patrickperalta59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Via_The_Void i agree Clayton was a idiot for saying he would Kill Wes Parmale if it turned out he was not jock..... that is stupid because if Wes had died in the future and not by Clayton.....the police would question him since a whole room of people heared him say it.

  • @jasonraczkowski6001
    @jasonraczkowski6001 7 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I think they missed a great opportunity to have Wes parmalee be jason Ewing instead. jason Ewing against Jr and Bobby with Jamie and Jack would have been great

    • @CaptainSpalding72
      @CaptainSpalding72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. Good point. I was ok with him as Jock.

    • @CaptainSpalding72
      @CaptainSpalding72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @NM1Raider that's the point. He should have come back as Jason.

    • @nrkgalt
      @nrkgalt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The plot twist should have been that Wes Parmalee was an imposter hired by Jeremy Wendell as part of a plot to take over Ewing Oil.

    • @CaptainSpalding72
      @CaptainSpalding72 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nrkgalt yeah. Not bad... at least it would have added up to something. It's a well prepped storyline and then nothing... too bad, lots of great acting and it props up Jock as a mythical figure. Had Bobby not been resurrected... it would have made a poignant storyline jock being told Bobby was dead. Plus, Steve Forrest was a fine actor.

    • @CaptainSpalding72
      @CaptainSpalding72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wanted Steve Forrest as Jason Ewing. That would have filled the spot left by Jock and could have made it where Jason marries Ellie after Claytons sudden death and Jamie And Jack are step siblings.

  • @CMRinehart
    @CMRinehart 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    When a storyline becomes unbelievable, the show soon goes off the air.

    • @jeffcarr1754
      @jeffcarr1754 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uh yeah and that didn't happen. When a show starts letting one person (Larry Hagman) control everything it will slowly be ruined. This story line should have gone ahead.... Steve forest was great and Howard keel should have never been on Dallas. Disagree with me.... ? Hmmm Larry gave us i dream of Jeanie and Joel grey as the devil plus the child bride nonsense. Ohhh... but that's understandable because he was such a beautiful free spirit and had parades on the beach in front of his house... how fun
      .... some.might call that a kook. I submit that jr could have been played by a lot better people than Hagman and the show would have still flourished.

    • @MrCjchamp
      @MrCjchamp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jeffcarr1754 what a stupid post

    • @marcusj4641
      @marcusj4641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jeffcarr1754 You had me until your last sentence.

    • @chipmichaels5197
      @chipmichaels5197 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jeffcarr1754 stuff it Jeff.

  • @fredricardo3272
    @fredricardo3272 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    “I got something to say, and it may as well get got said right now. Anybody who wants to do business with Ewing Oil...” I vividly remember watching this in the fall of ‘86. I don’t care what anybody says this was great and not only the last great season of the series, but one of the best ever.

  • @marcusj4641
    @marcusj4641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Who sold that son of a b^!c# a ticket?"
    If it takes me the rest of my life, I'm going to find a reason to use that line..🤣

  • @SaxonC
    @SaxonC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    For a man whose vocal cords were damaged in the helicopter crash, he sure has a clear and rich tone to his voice.. lol

    • @jeffw1267
      @jeffw1267 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Everyone knows a helicopter crash makes a man's voice smoother and less gravelly.

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It wasn't his vocal cords that were damaged it was the laryngeal nerve.

  • @CardShopReality
    @CardShopReality ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This storyline is my Dallas guilty pleasure of the series. Sorry I loved it back then. THUMBS UP

    • @citygirl5705
      @citygirl5705 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was a ridiculous storyline. But it was AWESOME!!!!

  • @SaxonC
    @SaxonC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is the only time that I have been impressed with Clayton Farlow because his threat was powerful. I’m glad that the producers didn’t resurrect Jock Ewing by replacing Jim Davis. I think half of the viewers would have a hard time seeing anyone try to even attempt filling Jim Davis’ boots. I always thought that if they did replace Jim Davis regarding Davis’ looks, it would have been Buddy Ebsen. I always thought that their faces showed a convincing resemblance

    • @PungiFungi
      @PungiFungi ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I honestly did not mind seeing Jock returned, I would've loved to see the subsequent fireworks and fallout.

  • @SirManfly
    @SirManfly 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    i was never a fan of Wes. Jock was gone and they should have left things that way.

    • @SirManfly
      @SirManfly ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya I thought all this "I'm Jock Ewing" stuff was a pretty big stretch though it made for a reasonably interesting storyline !

  • @SUPERMAN3309
    @SUPERMAN3309 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wes parmalee had that expression on his face when he called out punk anderson was like damn it punk you better back up my story lol

  • @kaymarham5486
    @kaymarham5486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "I'm Jock Ewing."
    "The HEEEEEEEELL yoooou aaaaare."

  • @chiliman7662
    @chiliman7662 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    This was the moment Clayton proved he could equal Jock's strength.

    • @reneep9972
      @reneep9972 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      BS. If someone threatened the real Jock Ewing like that, Jock would've dropped him on the spot, Clayton included.

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Clayton was lightweight compared to Jock. The only issue I have is with the writing, Wes/Jock should've been more confrontational the way Jim Davis was.

    • @phalynwilliams4119
      @phalynwilliams4119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Via_The_Void , True! Jock always came out swinging with words or fists or both if necessary. 😂 If Wes had clocked Clayton everyone would have believed that he was Jock.

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@phalynwilliams4119 Yeah he should've said "Don't you talk to me like that Farlow! Here's what real power feels like!!" Before punching him in the gut!! Bobby & JR would've known straight away who he was then.

    • @phalynwilliams4119
      @phalynwilliams4119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Via_The_Void , Exactly! 😂

  • @rickjones257
    @rickjones257 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I always knew Parmalee was a Fraud but he’s an interesting character. 😀😀😀

  • @Astraldragon1
    @Astraldragon1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    even JR was shocked that Clayton said he would Kill Wes Parmalee if he turned out to be a fake.. threatening someones life...is not good because if later something happens to that person......... the first thing police do is go to the person who made the threat.........and there are plenty of people who heared him make that threat.
    and I know Clayton had good reason...but still you don't publicly make that announcement.

    • @williamharrell3622
      @williamharrell3622 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's not cool

    • @TheCmascagni
      @TheCmascagni 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Astraldragon1 exactly!! It takes a lot to shock JR

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Clayton was an idiot! No two ways about it. As much as I liked the character & Howard Keel, Jock's return was the one thing which would've made Dallas compelling & watchable again. So when they dropped this storyline, the Producers shot the show in the foot by doing so.

  • @yoadrian8496
    @yoadrian8496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The absurdity that JR and Bobby wouldn't sit down and grill him with childhood questions is baffling!

    • @lindakristinekjrlibraten5759
      @lindakristinekjrlibraten5759 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How about miss Ellie? What could she have asked him about?

    • @donnn-ow4rj
      @donnn-ow4rj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because it is clearly explained that not all his memory has come back. He still had huge blanks and could not remember everything. That is mentioned a few times.

    • @stevekru6518
      @stevekru6518 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lindakristinekjrlibraten5759Less on a G rated show than an R rated movie but either way more info than even contemporary AI could handle

  • @ItThats
    @ItThats 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I'm a minority here but I liked this fake Jock storyline and I do think Steve Forrest was a HUGE addition to regular cast in Dallas. Too bad the producers brought him only in Season 9. If they've found him earlier I would love to see him married to Miss Ellie. Much much more suitable than Clayton altho I'm not a Clayton basher. But on the other hand I don't think Forrest would suit as just a support character within Southfork Ranch, he has too much strength and charisma. For that, I think Clayton was better as a support character and with a more passive role.

    • @patrickperalta59
      @patrickperalta59 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I agree I also liked the Fake Jock Ewing Story... and Steve Forrest would have been a good replacement as Jock. the trouble is both the Cast and the Majority of fans didn't want anyone to replace Jim Davis.

    • @randyhatteberg6000
      @randyhatteberg6000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is Was Parmalee Jock Ewing?

    • @donnn-sg4mk
      @donnn-sg4mk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@randyhatteberg6000yes!!

    • @johnothy
      @johnothy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I liked it as well and wished that he had been Jock. I didn't like the abrupt way it ended.

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@randyhatteberg6000 Yes Randy he was really meant to be Jock but a backlash from a vocal section of the fanbase made the Producer's change their minds & write the character out.

  • @phspalace1021
    @phspalace1021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Morgan Woodward, Steve Forrest, Barbara Bel Geddes, Larry Hagman, Ken Kercheval, Howard Keel are all gone now, funny it dont seem that long ago Dallas was on tv, but they will never be forgotten.

    • @KeithFroehlich07
      @KeithFroehlich07 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And Jeremy Wendell snake that he is, is still alive and kicking at 96. 🐍

    • @phspalace1021
      @phspalace1021 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KeithFroehlich07 I know

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KeithFroehlich07 The great William Smithers he was terrific as Jeremy Wendell.

  • @905if6was9
    @905if6was9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love this. Clayton going balls out.
    Those poor writers, Jock (real or fake), Clayton, good for a song and a dance in a 50s musical, playing a hard-ass. The writers had gold. Should have made Parmalee Jock, and Clayton, J R, and Bobby psycho.

  • @astaciamckinnis3969
    @astaciamckinnis3969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dallas and Dynasty are the 2 best shows

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm still amazed today in 2024 just how much love & affection there is for Dallas and Dynasty.

  • @ronyeahright9536
    @ronyeahright9536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dallas history; the first time JR, Bobby, and Clayton are all on the same side.

    • @donnn-ow4rj
      @donnn-ow4rj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha true. They were all on the same side with the ranch war a few years later too.

  • @raw5742
    @raw5742 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The real Jock Ewing would have flattened Clayton as soon as he ran his mouth off at him that's what should have proved to the world that Parmalee was a liar , he calmly took Clayton's threat in a cold and dispassionate manner. The real Jock was all fire and passion.

  • @lindamerchant123
    @lindamerchant123 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Steve forrest don't even talk like Jim Davis

  • @KeithFroehlich07
    @KeithFroehlich07 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bobby was stunned, but JR was standing there like "Screw the lie detector test shoot him now!" 🤠

  • @richardsiciliano7117
    @richardsiciliano7117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Deep down, I think JR liked and respected Clayton......especially after this scene.

  • @allengilbert9545
    @allengilbert9545 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nothing against Steve Forrest, but I think the producers lost their nerve when trying this storyline and learned Jock could only be played by Jim Davis. I think it would have been interesting if Punk Anderson would've been discovered with connections to Parmalee, to try to root out Clayton so he could've make a move to get in on Southfork or Ewing Oil. It's too bad they couldn't have created a better, long lasting role for Steve Forrest, but as a different character.

    • @donnn-sg4mk
      @donnn-sg4mk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was jock....and punk would never do anything like that

  • @ericnielsen7767
    @ericnielsen7767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I grew to like Clayton.He stood up for his new family

  • @TheMafrand
    @TheMafrand 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The plot about Jock coming back was too silly.

  • @MrEdwardsg
    @MrEdwardsg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wendell was in there like a rat up a drain pipe

  • @ealberty66
    @ealberty66 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Wes would have been a better replacement in the Ewing family than Clayton. He never fit in with the Ewings.

    • @jasonraczkowski6001
      @jasonraczkowski6001 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I felt they really missed an opportunity with Jason Ewing and saying he died in 1984, I would have loved to see Jason Ewing interact with JR and Bobby.

    • @tombstone1111
      @tombstone1111 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Damn straight! I couldn't ever stand Clayton or his dumb ass son Dusty. Jock Ewing was the second greatest character ever on the show next to JR.

    • @LBF522
      @LBF522 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree. They should have introduced Jason Ewing instead of just Jamie and later Jack.

    • @jasonraczkowski6001
      @jasonraczkowski6001 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree. Wes parmalee should have been jason ewing coming back to dallas , jr remembering him from his childhood. Bring jason back first then jamie and jack later on. Jason ewing was jocks older brother

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wes was really Jock Ewing all along.

  • @kennethwilliams7697
    @kennethwilliams7697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was one of Clayton's toughest moments! He proved he was a force to be reckoned with! Dallas was one of the greatesr television series ever!

    • @ronkali5365
      @ronkali5365 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which season was this ?

    • @kennethwilliams7697
      @kennethwilliams7697 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ronkali5365 Season 10

  • @spiderman-uz6fy
    @spiderman-uz6fy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I ALSO LIKED THE BD CALHUNN STORYLINE

  • @mgabor6936
    @mgabor6936 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Producers allegedly intended Parmalee to be Jock but backed down when they realised in the meantime that the storyline wasn't going down well with the viewers. So yeah, in the end he was written out of the show.

    • @candiceyates253
      @candiceyates253 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh wow interesting!!!

    • @candiceyates253
      @candiceyates253 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was wondering about this. It seemed too real!

    • @twc3546
      @twc3546 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was gone so fast. Didn’t really let the storyline unfold

  • @KeithFroehlich07
    @KeithFroehlich07 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's apparent that he was going to be Jock until the cast told the brass they didn't like it so they scrapped the idea.
    I would be most interested in reading the scripts, future scripts, after it was proven that Wes was Jock.
    You know they exist.
    Because ditching the storyline was done at the last minute.

  • @balchana3365
    @balchana3365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    JR “the hellll you are” brilliant

  • @danielreid3476
    @danielreid3476 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ellie and Ray both knew he was Jock. I think deep down JR and Bobby knew it too, but neither wanted to give up their power.

    • @connerhuston2613
      @connerhuston2613 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't know about Bobby and especially JR believing he was Jock. The other two especially Miss Ellie yes.

    • @andrewwatson1206
      @andrewwatson1206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He wasn't Jock Ewing . Wes parmalee or Wyatt Haynes was in the helecopter crash with Jock and had total memory loss believing he was Jock that's how he managed to convince miss Ellie almost destroying her marriage to Clayton. Jock unfortunately ended up at the bottom of a swamp

  • @jasonwilkins4864
    @jasonwilkins4864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Who the sold that SOB a ticket!

  • @blakemcnamara9105
    @blakemcnamara9105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This guy was obviously not Jock. He was younger and his personality was nothing like his.

  • @winny8420
    @winny8420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I heard about Jock Ewing coming back into Dallas ( years ago). I imagined at first that JR would be happy to have his daddy back & would work with Wes/Jock to get rid of Clayton.
    Of course it turned out to be the opposite effect only JR & Bobby didn’t believe him and other family members did.

  • @travisjames3517
    @travisjames3517 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He was Jock. Remember, we never saw his final conversation between him and Ellie.

  • @azariah15
    @azariah15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mrs. Ellie was spineless.

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She wasn't. She was emotional and upset because of her love for Jock. She was torn between Clayton and Wes because on a certain level she believed that Wes could be Jock.

  • @derrickjackson6737
    @derrickjackson6737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THE HELL U ARE JR SAID!!!!!!!

  • @jasonraczkowski6001
    @jasonraczkowski6001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a question, if Jock and Wyatt Haines were in the same chopoer , why did Haines parmalee survive and Jock didn't ? And did Haines parmalee know what happened to Jocks body ? Did he see what happened to Jocks body?

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Wyatt Haines explanation was only thought up at the last minute when it became clear to the Producers that Steve Forrest playing Jock wasn't going to be accepted by the fans.

  • @JohnBlack2345
    @JohnBlack2345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    there is a book, Dallas The Complete Series, where the show's producers did hire an actor to play Jock after JD's death. that man was Howard Keel. Jock would have survived the crash but would have had surgery to change everything....that was until HK said that JD was a very close friend of his, and it really touched him that JD, after all his hard work, became a superstar with Dallas, so he turned down playing Jock and CF was created for him.

    • @twc3546
      @twc3546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      JohnBlack2345 Clayton was on several episodes when Jim was still alive, so he couldn’t have been Jock

    • @Chemdawg2009
      @Chemdawg2009 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@twc3546 Actually, Jim Davis was already dead in real life by the time Howard Keel came on to play Clayton Farlow, near the end of season 4 but the show's producers didn't want to kill the Jock Ewing character off just yet and had the character in South America offscreen when the Sue Ellen/J.R. custody battle/divorce storyline played out with Sue Ellen running off to the Southern Cross with Dusty and Clayton protecting her and John Ross. I am pretty sure JohnBlack2345's assertion that Howard Keel was meant to play Jock Ewing as a direct replacement for Jim Davis is incorrect since Davis was unable to perform due to his terminal illness (multiple myeloma) and did not appear in the last two episodes of season 4. His character was kept alive off screen for the first 12 episode of season 5. As I said before, Davis died while the fourth season was still airing and Keel made his first appearance as Farlow during the fourth season, so he was never meant to be a replacement for Davis as Jock Ewing. In fact, the producers had already made the decision when Davis died that they wouldn't recast Jock Ewing with another actor and even considered leaving his name and photos in the opening credits for the duration of the series. As a Dallas native, I am glad they never recast Jock Ewing with another actor. Jim Davis IS Jock Ewing and no one could have played him like he did.

    • @twc3546
      @twc3546 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Wes storyline ended too abruptly. Although they said Xrays showed Wes had the same injuries as Jock. Even if they were in the same crash they wouldn’t have identical scars. But did Wes come thru the rehab thinking he was really Jock due to hearing actual Jocks ramblings when he had the fever

    • @twc3546
      @twc3546 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Chemdawg2009 there were 2 episodes where Keel and Davis both appeared, however they had no scenes together

  • @legendbucwild
    @legendbucwild ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Identity theft....the 1986 version

  • @LBF522
    @LBF522 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why even start this if not going to finish it?

  • @thenostalgicpodblast
    @thenostalgicpodblast ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Steve Forrest was an awesome actor

  • @stanhankins3175
    @stanhankins3175 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He looks nothing like Jock

  • @jameshendricks2197
    @jameshendricks2197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    How did Wes recognize Harv Smithfield and he even knew who Jock's tailor was! 🤔

    • @donnn-ow4rj
      @donnn-ow4rj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because he was jock!!

    • @jameshendricks2197
      @jameshendricks2197 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donnn-ow4rj Lol!!! 😆

    • @connerhuston2613
      @connerhuston2613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, I guess we suppose to believe a delirious, feverish rambling Jock told Wyatt Haines about Harv Smithfield. And Jock had a picture of him handy in South America. SMH 😂

    • @MrCjchamp
      @MrCjchamp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jameshendricks2197 he was supposed to be originally. When Bobby returned from the dead, the show lost credibility and didn’t want to resurrect another character. I liked Wes but not as jock. In the dream, his name was Ben Stivers and he was meant to be Jock. I think they originally meant to keep this but backed out. That’s why there was so much plot holes. Not bc the show wanted you to wonder if he was Jock, but bc they just flat out backed out and created an undoable mess

    • @lostNxbox29
      @lostNxbox29 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was Jock. He saw his family's true nature and that they would rather have him dead. So he just left town lol

  • @KeithFroehlich07
    @KeithFroehlich07 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The last great storyline of Dallas.

    • @tombstone1111
      @tombstone1111 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed. Although the new Dallas from a few years back was pretty damn good I think. JR's Masterpiece and Cliff going down for it was the crowned jewel of the show. Hagman would have been very proud I think.

    • @KeithFroehlich07
      @KeithFroehlich07 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I did like new Dallas too. I liked JR's letter to Bobby.."That malignant little troll Barnes"...LOL Classic JR to the end.

    • @johanbrand8601
      @johanbrand8601 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KeithFroehlich07 this was the worst storyline of the entire series!

    • @KeithFroehlich07
      @KeithFroehlich07 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johanbrand8601
      No way the whole thing with JR marrying a woman that was what 30 years younger than him? Some farmer's daughter?
      That was a joke that pretty much jumped the shark of the show.

  • @leanajeanlouis2396
    @leanajeanlouis2396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    JR Is a total Bad ass and a sceamer but you gatta love him this scene is a CLASSIC J R said your not my Daddy

  • @MultiCased
    @MultiCased 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Maybe Keels best work on Dallas?

    • @tiffanywaldon4875
      @tiffanywaldon4875 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MultiCased Yes! You ain't never lied! 😃

    • @reneep9972
      @reneep9972 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Keel's best work on Dallas? That ain't saying much. Keel sucked.

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@reneep9972 Sad but true. He was a good character Clayton but in no way was he better than Jock Ewing.

    • @johanbrand8601
      @johanbrand8601 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reneep9972 not a fraction as much as you

  • @genesis1177
    @genesis1177 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I loved JR and thought he could have been fine on his own show. However, I think the show jumped the shark for me when Farlow married Miss Ellie and suddenly a migration flow of every Tom, Dick and Harry was coming onto South Fork claiming to be a Ewing. Who wasn't a Ewing by then? I think around season 7 or 8 it should have ended because it got too silly and predictable. The Writers completely lost control of the script and the show just became a merry go round of Husband, boy friend and wife swapping-all on the same property of course with everyone still being friends and so understanding. Sorry, even though I took Drama and literary film study in college, not even my suspension of belief can go that far. Pam with Bobby, Jenna with Bobby, Jenna with Ray, Pam with Mark. It became the Melrose Place of the night time soaps. Everyone's screwing everyone else more than you would if there was a Swingers party going on at the ranch. Every time Writers don't have any real story lines or can't come up with any, they fall back on every body swinging from one sex partner with another. Yet, all that took place and no fire works, no fights? I mean really, come on. In real life people kill each other over things like that. NO one, especially Bobby, is non chalet about stuff like that. I think the producers punted on a lot of real life action that could have been used from how people really re-act when this kind of stuff goes on. But they kept it all composed and with everyone so polite and all this non-sense. People just aren't like that and the Writers really lost grip on some sense of reality when it comes to human behavior. I kind of stopped watching around season 7 or 8 but always stepped in just to watch JR do his thing. If TV is supposed to be as realistic as possible and you have them behaving so far from what real people do in certain situations in real life than its just impossible for me to watch and enjoy. It took JR and a bunch of other GROWN men 8 or 9 years to leave a house where they have no privacy and everyone is in their marriage business. I just find it old after a while. Just like the Cliff Barnes vs JR storyline. IT just seems to me a person is sick in the head if they can't move on from a guy they hate and get on with his life and realize he's not in JR's League. But I have the first 6 or 7 seasons on DVD. However, like most great shows, the first two or three years are always the best because they're new and the story lines are taking shape. I still say Dallas was a better show than Dynasty, although I watched both until the story lines got old and repetitive. I miss Larry. I watched him as a kid as Major Nelson. What a wonderful person that guy was. He will always be an Icon.

    • @herecomesforego1787
      @herecomesforego1787 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right and Major Nelson is who he will always preferentially be to me

    • @jeffreybaker100
      @jeffreybaker100 ปีที่แล้ว

      He thing that always gets me, if these Ewings were multi millionaires or billionaires, why did they all live in that South Fork Ranch together? My God, if my family was that wealthy I sure wouldn't want to live at home with my Parents. I'd have my own mansion to live in

    • @jeffreybaker100
      @jeffreybaker100 ปีที่แล้ว

      The thing...

  • @14DaveHunter
    @14DaveHunter 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wes Parmelee was going to be revealed as Jock. But, fans didn't like it, because they felt it was a disservice to Jim Davis. So, the writers made Parmelee a business associate of Jock, who was on the helicopter.

  • @mariposamichelleable
    @mariposamichelleable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some epic hair in this episode

  • @norellpolk1626
    @norellpolk1626 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great storyline back in 1986

    • @psychodelicrock12
      @psychodelicrock12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One of my favorite storylines since Jock died.

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just a shame that they didn't follow through & make Steve Forrest's character Jock.

    • @connerhuston2613
      @connerhuston2613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Via_The_Void , the prevailing reason was fan backlash didn't want him to be Jock.

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@connerhuston2613 I know, such a shame though as Steve Forrest would've been a great Jock Ewing. Sadly it wasn't meant to be.

  • @phalynwilliams4119
    @phalynwilliams4119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That is the type of thing that Jock would do. 😂

  • @flintknudsen2155
    @flintknudsen2155 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What am I missing here? Couldn't any family member quiz Wes to see if he was really Jock?

    • @connerhuston2613
      @connerhuston2613 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know right! He did remember some things and passed all their tests. I personally believe he was Jock. But to your point when he stood up there he said I have known most of you all my life.
      Okay some people could have quizzed him. Now as the story goes a deleriois/rambling/feverish Jock kept talking about his life. And Wyatt Haines (who they thought was Parmalee) was there at the time. Now come on you mean to tell me Jock would mention things about most of the people in that room? And Parmalee would remember come on. So correct they his family and some of the people in that room should have quizzed. him.

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@connerhuston2613 The Wyatt Haines explanation didn't make sense, especially as Wes's X ray's were identical to Jock's. Two different men cannot have identical X ray's.

    • @connerhuston2613
      @connerhuston2613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Via_The_Void , exactly and even if you could believe (get past) the whole crazy delirious Jock Ramblings of his life in front of Wes Parmelee/Wyatt Hains part.
      How could you possibly explain the identical X-rays?

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@connerhuston2613 Wes was Jock. It's as simple as that.

    • @connerhuston2613
      @connerhuston2613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Via_The_Void , agreed

  • @morgan8757
    @morgan8757 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i hated how miss ellie stood up for that parmalee

    • @johanbrand8601
      @johanbrand8601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because she knew the truth. Wes was Jock all along.

  • @ssnadera6498
    @ssnadera6498 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was cool dramatic scene ending

  • @tombryan1
    @tombryan1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This went off the rails

  • @gretchenwaldvogel7805
    @gretchenwaldvogel7805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved this show ❤.

  • @TheCmascagni
    @TheCmascagni 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Clayton earned his stripes here. He was badass.

  • @marythompson3658
    @marythompson3658 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW.....CLAYTON.....HE MEANS BUSINESS....

  • @somebose7395
    @somebose7395 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jock had retired . Now 5 yrs later he wants take over again. Not something real jock would do

  • @mrcolmun
    @mrcolmun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's Colonel Sanders!

  • @MinisterDavidRagsdale
    @MinisterDavidRagsdale 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is Clayton At his best never cared for his character but everyone is united behind Clayton there.

  • @LB-gz3ke
    @LB-gz3ke 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought this made an interesting story and the actor was good. However, if he had turned out to be the "real Jock" I think it would have been an insult to the late Jim Davis. He made Jock Ewing come alive and the character died when Davis died.

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This storyline was an experiment to see if they could recast the role of Jock with another actor. It sadly didn't work.

  • @BlytheWorld1972
    @BlytheWorld1972 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And this is why Dallas was sooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better than dynasty

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dallas was a lot more grittier than Dynasty.

  • @j.rbrooks300
    @j.rbrooks300 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "The hell you are, everybody can see you're not my daddy"

  • @tomdotson6053
    @tomdotson6053 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    They should have made him jock for real the character. Was needed

    • @Astraldragon1
      @Astraldragon1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They Originally had planed for Wes to Really Be Jock. but Fans out cry at the time and outrage made them change their mind they didn't want someone else playing Jock.
      if you watch the whole Storyline.. you see hints come out that he really might be jock. as the storyline went on.

    • @radrobd
      @radrobd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's not true. By the time, the season 10 episode premiered, the show had already filmed Steve Forrest's last episode, revealing Wes was a con. There was no fan outrage, at least none that prompted him to leave the show as he was already gone when his episodes aired.

    • @radrobd
      @radrobd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm not sure. When they first brought him on in season 9 as Ben Stivers, I thought he would turn out to be Jason Ewing, Jock's brother and Jack and Jamie's father.

    • @radrobd
      @radrobd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, I thought that scene was an indicator that maybe Ben was Jason with a new face/plastic surgery because Jack got a strange vibe from him and the storyline was that Jack and Jason didn't get along.

    • @jasonraczkowski6001
      @jasonraczkowski6001 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      radrobd in the early years movie jock and Jason had a big fight the night of the oil fires in pride texas and they parted ways

  • @connerhuston2613
    @connerhuston2613 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And after listening to this clip once again. That's another thing Parmalee said Anyone or any of you wanting to do business with Ewing oil the man to talk to is ME. So how is Wyatt Haines (the guy Bobby said Parmalee was at the end of the story) suppose to know anything about the oil business? I would have loved if they questioned him about that. If Parmalee was able to answer those questions what excuse could they use then? Parmalee was Jock

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Of course he was Jock. The Wyatt Haines explanation was only used when they had to write him off the show.

  • @dr.roberts4508
    @dr.roberts4508 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A lot of Grey hair there.

  • @lincmerc1581
    @lincmerc1581 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This fiction was stranger than fiction.

  • @patricknaughton1852
    @patricknaughton1852 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It would have been interesting if Wes Parmalee turned out to be Jock Ewing. Great storyline.

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He actually was really meant to be Jock Ewing recast with another actor (Steve Forrest) but some of the fans of the show got into a hissy fit & felt it was disrespectful to Jim Davis who had originally played the role.

    • @MrCjchamp
      @MrCjchamp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Via_The_Void and when Bobby was resurrected the show got cold feet and didn’t want to resurrect another character. They had also done in the beginning of dream season with mark graison. Problem with paramalee is after the cold feet it created plot holes and continuity issues that left many fans believing he was Jock but walked away. That was not the plan

  • @Truthseeker1515
    @Truthseeker1515 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How ridiculous! I had not even known as a kid they had tried to bring back Jock! No wonder my family and I stopped watching after 1984. As if getting rid of Barbara Bel Geddes was not bad enough. The show was already going downhill....

  • @bigroy38
    @bigroy38 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Punk had a hell of a voice.

    • @shawnmichaelduncan5951
      @shawnmichaelduncan5951 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actor is still alive. In his ninties. Did several episodes of Gunsmoke

    • @rockyracoon3233
      @rockyracoon3233 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOVED Punk!!!

    • @bigroy38
      @bigroy38 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was intimidating as hell in the final Walking Tall as the mob boss.

    • @carolynargabright8132
      @carolynargabright8132 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Morgan Woodward, the sunglasses wearing chain gang foreman, in "Cool Hand Luke".

  • @JenniferPatrick-tc3lp
    @JenniferPatrick-tc3lp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clayton best badass moment

  • @tracyfisher3435
    @tracyfisher3435 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with Bob and J.R.that phoney Wes Was Not Jock
    There's no such thing as
    Reincarnation.Thats like someone
    Coming up to me saying he's my
    Dad after my dad died 23 years
    Ago.

    • @donnn-sg4mk
      @donnn-sg4mk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was jock!! Jock never died. He went missing in plane crash. No body was found because he survived.

  • @jasongibson3496
    @jasongibson3496 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This whole story line was an insult to Jim Davis. Jim Davis has past on give his character respect. Steve Forrest is no Jim Davis.

    • @jasonraczkowski6001
      @jasonraczkowski6001 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jason Gibson now if they had brought wes parmalee on as Jason Ewing,jocks brother that would have been a great story!!! Jason and jock from the early years, and Jason as uncle of bobby and jr and ray and Garry,and father of jack and jamie

    • @derrickjackson6737
      @derrickjackson6737 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jim Davis would always be Jock Ewing

    • @johanbrand8601
      @johanbrand8601 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly!! This storyline WAS an insult!!

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johanbrand8601 I thought it was a great tribute to Jim to bring Jock back. Steve Forrest's performance is sometimes very akin to Jim's performance as Jock.

  • @OrangeTabbyCat
    @OrangeTabbyCat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wes Parmalee (what a name!) is a very attractive man!

  • @alexplotkin3368
    @alexplotkin3368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They pushed Wes too far!
    Do business with Wes! He has no legal counsel and no knowledge of Ewing oil's accounts. 😋😄😄

  • @jonstefanik9400
    @jonstefanik9400 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Why doesn't JR and Bobby just ask him where their birthmarks are?

    • @vanessadorahill292
      @vanessadorahill292 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do Caucasian people have birth marks?

    • @clg6373
      @clg6373 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@vanessadorahill292 LOL, some of us do.

  • @phyllishammond9886
    @phyllishammond9886 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You go Clayton!!!!!!

  • @SUPERMAN3309
    @SUPERMAN3309 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    the guy who played wes parmilee would have been the perfect replacement for jock Ewing they both sounded alike and even had his mannerisms down pact that being said I just that cliffhanger music in the end

    • @tombstone1111
      @tombstone1111 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I loved Steve Forrest but have to disagree about the mannerisms being the same or even close for that matter. Wes was a very polite and well mannered guy and Jock was very gruff and didn't take any shit from anyone. But yes, had they allowed Steve to study Jim Davis a little more, I do agree he would have been a great replacement. A great looking older man. Better looking than Jim Davis.

  • @gemmaaboagye8951
    @gemmaaboagye8951 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wes should not mess with JR . He is a very dangerous man

  • @harrellwilliam6
    @harrellwilliam6 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    clayton he's no business threatening wes

    • @tombstone1111
      @tombstone1111 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If that would've been Jock, he would have beaten the living fuck out of Farlow.

    • @reneep9972
      @reneep9972 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tombstone1111 Got that right!

    • @Via_The_Void
      @Via_The_Void 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tombstone1111 The irony is that he was intended to be Jock.

  • @johndrake2729
    @johndrake2729 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Whoa, Clayton!

  • @dr.roberts4508
    @dr.roberts4508 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone tell the Band to start playing.

    • @donnn-sg4mk
      @donnn-sg4mk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha . and just for the record he was jock!!

  • @johnnasiatka5636
    @johnnasiatka5636 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only part of Pam’s dream that should of not been kept a reality.

  • @williamharrell9305
    @williamharrell9305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jr dont take no shit

  • @superbadgirl82
    @superbadgirl82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never liked Clayton