The CSI Effect had nothing to do with similar shows, but with how those shows, particularly CSI, influenced the public's understanding of how the science actually worked, to the point that criminal trials were being picked apart because the evidence wasn't as clear-cut as what they showed on TV. People actually believed that because shows like CSI could solve these seemingly complex crimes so quickly, that reality HAD to work the same way, and challenged the idea that real science in trials couldn't be as absolute.
Especially running DNA and getting back a match in an hour. In reality, it takes at least a week for the dye to set before the DNA can even be processed.
Sorry to say you got one wrong. The very last one, the CSI effect, is actually the effect it had on people believing that forensics was a much more instantaneous process, allowing people to get answers from hours to days instead of the actual months it takes togo through DNA evidence and such.
Saved by the Bell doesn't belong here. What you describe IS NOT the CSI effect. The CSI effect is when a jury expects an unreal level of evidence in real cases, thereby unreasonably biasing them against prosecution. Though it was contentious among many people, there were enough instances, and the uproar large enough, many She-Hulk moments should have been on here whether you agree with them or not.
That’s not what the CSI effect is either. The CSI effect was people believing evidence like DNA and fingerprinting and such could be Identified and solved cases in a matter of minutes not days or weeks or months and gave everyone an unrealistic expectation in the crime solving process.
They had a better nod toward the Olsens near the end of the series. They find Michelle's old bike in the attic and someone says they should get rid of it because "if she hasn't shown up by now, she's not going to."
@@jrod2510 I guess I'm old enough that he's not on my radar much. If I thought about it for a couple of minutes, I might be able to name the one song I associate with him (only because it's on my wife's spotify)
I always thought that the fourth wall break in "Fuller House" was very disrespectful to the Olsen Twins. They've clearly moved on from their child star days, and they don't need to be shamed or pressured into returning. The iCarly revival was respectful towards Jennette McCurdy's decision not to return as Sam.
How about “Northern Exposure” season 2 episode 6. (War and Peace) In the middle of a dual between two characters, the rest of the cast that is watching, suddenly face the camera and say that it makes no sense for the dual to continue, and they say that the television audience would never believe it. Then they say that they should just go on to the next scene.
8:22 This is not '4th wall breaking'. As most of the other clips are or could at least somehow be considered breaking the 4th wall, you know what the expression means. Well, that one is not breaking the 4th wall at all.
@@jrod2510 ratings don’t mean shit every year movies general audiences didn’t much enjoy win awards while public favourites don’t get shit girlfriends had better jokes better chemistry and better plot lines
A fourth wall break I hated was during the Arrowverse Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover. Sarah Lance grabbing an alternate version of her crew because she promised her actual crew that they wouldn't do any more crossovers was just dumb. What was even worse was the fourth wall breaks coming from characters from shows that don't do fourth wall breaks. Hearing Diggle say "I am never letting my kids watch this show" just felt incredibly jarring.
that wasn't the only time it happened either, legends of tomorrow had multiple mentions of referring to the crossovers (i think a few of them were done by Nate). then again those times were done in their own show where they embrace the wacky comic book shenanigans so it can get away with them there compared to the rest of the arrowverse where they try to have more of a sense of "grounded in their reality"
@@thetruesora Yeah, LoT quickly became a parody of itself after the first season, so it wasn't really that surprising to see them break the fourth wall. It was mostly when characters from Flash or Arrow it did that really bothered me because it was completely out of character for them.
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How did 'K.E.V.I.N.' from She Hulk not make the list? I quite enjoyed She Hulk for the most part but that felt like I was being told that nothing in the MCU actually matters. It was bad. It felt like a slap in the face for investing in this for over ten years.
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I've heard his name and all, but I'm sure I'm not alone when I say that you could get as many close-ups of Ed Sheeran as you want, and I STILL wouldn't know who he is: or care.
the she-hulk finale belongs here. they were building to an ending that felt like the logical endpoint of the villain plotline, and then forced a bunch of supporting characters into the scene for no reason all, just so she could stop the show, go into the real world, and track down a robot kevin feige to convince him to change the ending to a less satisfying one that she wants. and after all that they don't even show us the actual conclusion, only what happens after. it was so stupid it singlehandedly made me stop giving a shit about the mcu
3:30 It's not that Shereen was in the show. It's that the song was so fucking BAD and modern. He wasn't the upsetting part, the VERY CLEARLY MODERN SONG was off-putting. Why was a 2010 pop song in a story set 600 years ago? It's just felt stupid.
The CSI Effect had nothing to do with similar shows, but with how those shows, particularly CSI, influenced the public's understanding of how the science actually worked, to the point that criminal trials were being picked apart because the evidence wasn't as clear-cut as what they showed on TV. People actually believed that because shows like CSI could solve these seemingly complex crimes so quickly, that reality HAD to work the same way, and challenged the idea that real science in trials couldn't be as absolute.
This.
exactly
Correct. I remember watching an episode of Forensic Files, where a forensics investigator complained about this very same issue.
Especially running DNA and getting back a match in an hour. In reality, it takes at least a week for the dye to set before the DNA can even be processed.
I was thinking the same thing❤
Nah the saved by the bell time outs were funny
💯% agree! Different generation I guess
Sorry to say you got one wrong. The very last one, the CSI effect, is actually the effect it had on people believing that forensics was a much more instantaneous process, allowing people to get answers from hours to days instead of the actual months it takes togo through DNA evidence and such.
I thought the Fuller House callouts were hilarious and actually served to recognize their time on the show in a silly way.
Whilst i didn't like the crew being introduced in The Office, that wasn't a 4th wall break...
Saved by the Bell doesn't belong here.
What you describe IS NOT the CSI effect. The CSI effect is when a jury expects an unreal level of evidence in real cases, thereby unreasonably biasing them against prosecution.
Though it was contentious among many people, there were enough instances, and the uproar large enough, many She-Hulk moments should have been on here whether you agree with them or not.
That’s not what the CSI effect is either. The CSI effect was people believing evidence like DNA and fingerprinting and such could be Identified and solved cases in a matter of minutes not days or weeks or months and gave everyone an unrealistic expectation in the crime solving process.
@@ae_sko88 Yours is a more specific description which falls under the umbrella I gave, which is accurate.
Okay, so only like a couple of these are actual 4th wall breaks. Some dude has a cameo on GOT and that makes the list? Alright.
They had a better nod toward the Olsens near the end of the series. They find Michelle's old bike in the attic and someone says they should get rid of it because "if she hasn't shown up by now, she's not going to."
I never saw what the problem with Sheeran was supposed to be. It's not like the last couple of seasons didn't have a bunch more serious issues anyway.
@@jrod2510 I guess I'm old enough that he's not on my radar much. If I thought about it for a couple of minutes, I might be able to name the one song I associate with him (only because it's on my wife's spotify)
I'm not sure I'd call most of these "fourth wall breaks"
The season finale of She-Hulk should have definitely been on this list.
Ridiculous that Saved by the Bell is on here
I don't understand why "Saved by the bell" is on the list when it made the show so special and original.
"I've never met Mickey Rourke"
- 30 Rock
"Hey, you're Annette Benning"
- The Sopranos
"TIMEOUT" is epic. Don't you dare.
I always thought that the fourth wall break in "Fuller House" was very disrespectful to the Olsen Twins. They've clearly moved on from their child star days, and they don't need to be shamed or pressured into returning. The iCarly revival was respectful towards Jennette McCurdy's decision not to return as Sam.
They had numerous 4th wall breaker in last episode of two and a half men when Jake shows up
How about “Northern Exposure” season 2 episode 6. (War and Peace) In the middle of a dual between two characters, the rest of the cast that is watching, suddenly face the camera and say that it makes no sense for the dual to continue, and they say that the television audience would never believe it. Then they say that they should just go on to the next scene.
"Fourth Wall Break" - I don't think this means what you think it means Ellie, if you wrote this episode, all I can say is that you can do better.
I want Cobra Kai to do a fourth wall break.
Also a few episodes of HUNTER with Fred Dwyer had Hunter speaking to the audience
I really like the "Time Out" from Saved by the Bell 😊
I didnt mind ed sheeran cameo
That's not what the CSI Effect is.
8:22 This is not '4th wall breaking'. As most of the other clips are or could at least somehow be considered breaking the 4th wall, you know what the expression means. Well, that one is not breaking the 4th wall at all.
Y'all can go ahead and delete the Saved by the Bell entry. It's absolutely gold for the show
Ed Sheeran wasn't a cameo or a 4th wall break, but way to shoehorn something in.
It was 100% a cameo. He is in one scene
@@hahajaxsontv YUP!
@hahajaxsontv I've always thought the definition of Cameo is you play yourself in an appearance. He wasn't playing Ed Sheeran
@@andyk5549 nah. A cameo is like stunt casting for a small role.
If it takes you out of the show and reminds you you’re watching a show it’s breaking the 4th wall
Joan from Girlfriends for the same reason as Carrie .
@@jrod2510 k thanks for the update ☺️
@@jrod2510girlfriends is soo much better then sex and the city
@@jrod2510 ratings don’t mean shit every year movies general audiences didn’t much enjoy win awards while public favourites don’t get shit girlfriends had better jokes better chemistry and better plot lines
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Are you saving William Hartnell wishing everyone at home a Merry Christmas for a WhoCulture version? Or was there one already and I missed it?
A fourth wall break I hated was during the Arrowverse Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover. Sarah Lance grabbing an alternate version of her crew because she promised her actual crew that they wouldn't do any more crossovers was just dumb.
What was even worse was the fourth wall breaks coming from characters from shows that don't do fourth wall breaks. Hearing Diggle say "I am never letting my kids watch this show" just felt incredibly jarring.
that wasn't the only time it happened either, legends of tomorrow had multiple mentions of referring to the crossovers (i think a few of them were done by Nate). then again those times were done in their own show where they embrace the wacky comic book shenanigans so it can get away with them there compared to the rest of the arrowverse where they try to have more of a sense of "grounded in their reality"
@@thetruesora Yeah, LoT quickly became a parody of itself after the first season, so it wasn't really that surprising to see them break the fourth wall. It was mostly when characters from Flash or Arrow it did that really bothered me because it was completely out of character for them.
I enjoyed the first seven season of GOT. But the Ed Sheeran thing didn’t phase me. I didn’t know who he was at all when I saw him on the series.
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Good press bad press it gets the audience talking in someway
Nothing from SHE-HULK?
No. Those were good and true to the comic
These are from TV show people watched
-Disparu
It's literally part of who the character is. If they hadn't done that, the trufen would have gone nuts.
The whole show was hated so not really necessary to bring up
Just one scene lol
Plain looking Romulans? How about Joanne Linville in The Enterprise Incident?
How did 'K.E.V.I.N.' from She Hulk not make the list? I quite enjoyed She Hulk for the most part but that felt like I was being told that nothing in the MCU actually matters. It was bad. It felt like a slap in the face for investing in this for over ten years.
Fuller house : We only exist because nostalgia and Netflix are desperate for content ...can we get a boost to viewing figures from the breakout stars ... and not just the also rans who need the work ... No ...
Vegeta talking to the camera literally once in Dragon Ball GT. Weird.
He did it in regular Z as well.
Lol, there's a few things i can't forgive tv audiences for and the overreaction to Ed Sheeran is one of them. Yall petty af 🤷🏾
I've heard his name and all, but I'm sure I'm not alone when I say that you could get as many close-ups of Ed Sheeran as you want, and I STILL wouldn't know who he is: or care.
Everyone, really?
the she-hulk finale belongs here. they were building to an ending that felt like the logical endpoint of the villain plotline, and then forced a bunch of supporting characters into the scene for no reason all, just so she could stop the show, go into the real world, and track down a robot kevin feige to convince him to change the ending to a less satisfying one that she wants. and after all that they don't even show us the actual conclusion, only what happens after. it was so stupid it singlehandedly made me stop giving a shit about the mcu
No idea who Ed Sheeran is so it didn't made a difference to me. If anything it only dragged on too much and made it a bit annoying but that's it 🤷🏻♂️
3:30 It's not that Shereen was in the show. It's that the song was so fucking BAD and modern. He wasn't the upsetting part, the VERY CLEARLY MODERN SONG was off-putting. Why was a 2010 pop song in a story set 600 years ago? It's just felt stupid.
1st view
Every season of Picard was damn awful except for the third.
Nerd alert
Hated She Hulks 9th episode BS. "Whose episode is this?!" The paying customere that's who!