Totally agree. A lot of reviewers are lost for words when reviewing the Tricity, and Kris has articulated the pros and cons very well with extremely helpful and specific pointers.
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Hi! Thanks for the video. I live in a place where is heavy crosswinds. Plan to buy this kind of motorcycle. Do you think it would be more stable also in heavy crosswinds?
I would have said so, the Tricity weighs quite a bit more than your average scooter which helps there, and also benefits from the extra front wheel from a stability perspective. The bodywork being a bit more bulky and potentially catching the wind a little may offset this somewhat, but I think overall you'd find the Tricity much better than a regular 300 cc scooter in those conditions.
Hi Kris, great review on a interesting concept. I’ve recently bought a BMW R1250R, which I really love and suits my motorcycling needs perfectly. But the Tricity 300 may be a suitable replacement for my car down the road. I have a couple of questions: 1. Did you have a chance to ride it in the rain and if so was it more stable and confident than a two wheeler?; 2. Are there options for extra luggage/carrying capacity? Thanks again Kris, great review.
As 1990 said the underseat storage is massive, and there's a rack and 39 or 50L top box available through Yamaha over in Europe, but I'm not sure if they are available everywhere, I don't see them on the Y-Shop here for Australia. I think Givi also do a topbox though. My last day returning the Tricity 300 I actually did have a chance to do about 30 km with some recently rained on roads and with heavy rain all in an urban environment with varying traffic. There's definitely better stability and traction, grip was good, it's a different feel than a regular scooter though. I'd say less intimate front end feel, but that could just be only having a week on the scooter and learning the different feedback you get, however it was really solid through those conditions, which aren't ideal in the wet, and with lots of crud on the road adding plenty of slippery spots.
I own scooter Aprillia Sr Gt 125. Its a nice scooter but top speed and accelaration is a bit too low and I am also 6ft tall and a bit cramped on it. This looks like more comeforteble and faster bike. Is it worth the upgrade?
Really should have done the wheels in Yamaha blue. Backs a mess can’t be fixed was looking at Piaggio but don’t want to deal with their electrical foibles. Wish Honda would jump in. Like to see this in the larger cc size but it’s not very hard to squeeze some decent grunt out of this engine
Hi mate, thanks for your review on the scooter. I got few questions to ask if you can help me it would be appreciated. 1) can it handle heavy wind let’s say 40 k wind speed. How is the performance 2) what is the maximum speed it can go with out stress on the engine 3) can it easily cruise up hill with out lacking speed 4) How is the fuel efficiency of the scooter Thanks
I didn't notice any issues with cross winds, even on the sections of freeway where it's common, however I also didn't have any of the really extremely windy days while testing. 120-130 was pretty cruisy on the flat sections, one of the things I like about the 300 is it has a nice amount of torque and I didn't feel like I was taxing the engine, unlike on some of the smaller machines where you really need to use a lot of throttle. For hills I think it depends, at lower speeds and around town I don't think you'll have any issues. The only place I noticed it wouldn't accelerate is at about 115 km/h up one of the steepest parts of the motorway out of Sydney. There it just sat at 115, but didn't slow down or speed up. I was filling up about 5L per 150 km roughly (not on an empty tank), so not as amazing as something like the little NMax 155, but pretty good I thought.
I did 303 miles (imperial uk) at 60mph to 70 mph with heavy winds on the coast for a third of my journey and it did 85mpg according to the avg of yamaha's onboard comp
It needs a bigger engine for this weight [239 kg wet, Kris, not 250]. Maybe a 500. But it would cost a lot. I'm not anti-three wheels at all. One of my motorcycles back home in southern Europe is a Can-Am Spyder F3-S. I regard it as my car. Back to this machine: I don't like keyless. I made a point when I bought my Aerox in Chiang Rai of getting a model with a key. These keyless systems can fail. Good review, as ever.
I'm not a big keyless fan to be honest, and the battery running out or there being some issue that can leave you stranded is obviously a concern. I was actually surprised how much I liked it on this, I just left it in my jacket pocket and in effect it was like there was no key, which really fits the scooter vibe. I'd never argue against more power, but it's surprising how well it goes for legal speeds. And you're right, not quite at that 250 mark!
Think they come in to there own if you do have back issues or want to ride all year long no matter the weather. I would take one off them out on an icy day instead of my MT
Hey bud I got myself a tricity 300 yesterday. It needs to have a 1000 break in period. What gas do I put in it. 91 unleaded or 95 octane. The people that sold it to me 2 people said 2 different things it's confusesing me. Can you help
@@Dazz-s7f I would say so, I haven't ever been recommended different fuels for break in, vs normal riding, but I normally stick to the recommendations and always avoid ethanol in fuel for my bikes, however I think some countries don't have ethanol free fuel, or it's only premium.
Not self balancing in the sense that there's anything other than the usual physics of a moving motorcycle, except when you lock the front steering/lean mechanism which will it keep the Tricity upright - if that's how it was sitting when you activate the lock/brake. The rest of the time the rider is in charge, but once you're moving like most bikes it wants to stay upright. It doesn't require very much input even at a standstill though to stay balanced.
I think this makes sense, for short vacations, where you do not know the kind of roads you will encounter, where you might need to go off road with the missus on the back till you get to your accommodation... one question... would it cruise happily at 100kph for a couple of hours, and does that "leg brake lever feel in the way"... well i guess two questions then :-)
Thanks for sharing. A question on the suitability this Tricity for beginners into motor bike, then upgrading to two wheel after? Any thought what best to start with?
I'd definitely say you could start on a Tricity 300, it's a very manageable machine and the two front wheels really helps traction and stability. It's not impossible to drop by any means but the extra wheel counters the additional weight in large part. It's fairly similar to other scooters like the XMax in many regards otherwise. You'd still be left with getting used to the balance and front end feel of a regular scooter if you were to switch over later, while a motorcycle adds the clutch and gearbox skills to that as well. So it should make that transition a lot easier. The different feel of the Tricity (and the Niken) is noticeable coming from a motorcycle, and I think that would go both ways.
Waste of money. No need to get three wheels to learn on - riding bikes is not juggling knives where it’s best to start with something safer.... unless you were considering starting on a gixxer lol. A beginner bike is fine. If you want a bike get a learner bike and take it easy. Get one of these if you want a bike for the city commute - they fit through the same gaps with a bit more stability as a regular scooter and have better braking. I think the appeal of 3 wheelers as ‘safer’ is more a perceived risk than actual. If you’re in Australia and go through the lams system, really the biggest risk to you as a new rider is how you ride, not what, and this won’t make much difference with that. If these were cheaper ... eh maybe, but way too much to spend just to learn on and turf
@@jonpram1737 Yep definitely not something you'd buy for just a year or planning on upgrading quickly as a stepping stone. Makes more sense if this is what you want long term, to justify the higher price tag, and where the Tricity's strengths come to the fore, like as a city commuter as you say.
@@Domn879 fair, but that’s really more a UK market specific plus to them, as assuming it’s similar to the mp3, in most other markets it’d need a motorcycle license/permit
@@jonpram1737 Multiple reasons to actually get a three wheeler. First ist of course the license. Not only can you ride it with only a car license, you can even get a 300ccm version were usually a 125ccm whiled have been the limit. Next if you are already looking at a maxi scooter like an Yamaha XMAX, you might consider the Tricity instead. It offers all the comfort etc from an XMAX, but its much more safer. There is no reason to choose a against safety and control. Plus an Xmax is heavy depending in the cirumstances that can be a problem (which I experienced myself two times when it hit the gras because the ground wasn't stable enough under the weight). As a three wheeler this ist a problem anymore. If you are driving in cities with many rails that could alone be a big benefit for a three wheeler.
Yep, it will only stand upright when that front steering assembly is locked. Otherwise the rider is still balancing the scooter, as it leans to turn like a normal two wheeler.
If these Dual Front End Bikes, er Trikes are so good. how come the Major Manufacturers don't supply them in North America? i've tried writing to Yamaha Canada concerning the Niken. No such luck was the Yamaha Canada Sales Representative reply. Go find a 2019 if you can was his return comment. He said they still serviced these products in Yamaha Outlets. But that's not the issue. The issue is, if these bikes er trikes are so much safer for the rider. If these bikes er trikes are or more than meet fuels requirement regulations for federal, State, Provincial governments. Why are they not available for sale? Europe, Asian countries, Australia, have them for sale. I can't even "special order" one from there to here. So what's the problem, ordering a Yamaha Tricity or Niken into North America if they meet all the regulations for public sales?
Sounds like there isn't the demand to justify bringing them in, and these are pricey to start with, considering there's two wheeled versions that most people prefer. That's just guesswork on my part though. It's also possible that regardless of whether the vehicle meets all the requirements, that all the testing and paperwork needed to prove that is prohibitive, especially for a one-off purchase.
It has really good pickup actually, and one-up handles freeway speeds easily, it's just very steep uphills where you'll notice the top speed suffers. You can cruise along at 120 easily in most conditions (km/h).
@@MotoJournoKris I saw a article written in conjunction use a trade show. Like they say you can't believe everything you read on the enthernet. I called two big dealers in Florida, and they haven't heard a thing.
I'd be interested to see the braking distances compared. I generally find you're more aware of the weight of the bigger scooters when braking, just because of the weight distribution being low, which was certainly the case here being even heavier. But it did pull up impressively all things considered.
Still one of the best reviews of this machine out there
Thanks!
Totally agree. A lot of reviewers are lost for words when reviewing the Tricity, and Kris has articulated the pros and cons very well with extremely helpful and specific pointers.
Hi! Thanks for the video. I live in a place where is heavy crosswinds. Plan to buy this kind of motorcycle. Do you think it would be more stable also in heavy crosswinds?
I would have said so, the Tricity weighs quite a bit more than your average scooter which helps there, and also benefits from the extra front wheel from a stability perspective. The bodywork being a bit more bulky and potentially catching the wind a little may offset this somewhat, but I think overall you'd find the Tricity much better than a regular 300 cc scooter in those conditions.
Very good for the city in the rain on tram tracks.
Definitely. Much safer.
Hi Kris, great review on a interesting concept. I’ve recently bought a BMW R1250R, which I really love and suits my motorcycling needs perfectly. But the Tricity 300 may be a suitable replacement for my car down the road. I have a couple of questions: 1. Did you have a chance to ride it in the rain and if so was it more stable and confident than a two wheeler?; 2. Are there options for extra luggage/carrying capacity? Thanks again Kris, great review.
Stacks of underseat storage.
As 1990 said the underseat storage is massive, and there's a rack and 39 or 50L top box available through Yamaha over in Europe, but I'm not sure if they are available everywhere, I don't see them on the Y-Shop here for Australia. I think Givi also do a topbox though.
My last day returning the Tricity 300 I actually did have a chance to do about 30 km with some recently rained on roads and with heavy rain all in an urban environment with varying traffic. There's definitely better stability and traction, grip was good, it's a different feel than a regular scooter though. I'd say less intimate front end feel, but that could just be only having a week on the scooter and learning the different feedback you get, however it was really solid through those conditions, which aren't ideal in the wet, and with lots of crud on the road adding plenty of slippery spots.
@@MotoJournoKris If they were cheaper in Thailand, I'd happily have a Niken.
@@1990-t1j I'd definitely happily own one too, but will have to see how they're priced on the second hand market a few years down the track!
@@MotoJournoKris thanks for the great answers to my questions. Really interesting commuter option.
It would be cool if they made a TriMax with the 560cc engine from the T-Max.
Definitely, that TMax engine would be wicked in this!
That's what I'm waiting for.
I’d be willing to wait an extra year for that
I hope Yamaha is listening. In the Philippines, you can't use anything with less than 400cc on tollways
Yeah! 300cc is just about enough, no more
I own scooter Aprillia Sr Gt 125. Its a nice scooter but top speed and accelaration is a bit too low and I am also 6ft tall and a bit cramped on it. This looks like more comeforteble and faster bike. Is it worth the upgrade?
My favourite bike
had one 3 weeka , love it , i am 75 so was a bit concerned about the weight at a stand still . i dont use the locking mechanism .
Awesome right! I can definitely see just avoiding the locking mechanism being a thing.
Does it have a reverse gear, Kris? Thanks for the video!
No reverse gear, it rolls very easily on flat terrain, but trying to push it against an incline you'll feel the weight.
Hey I have never ridden a two wheeler. Would it be easy to ride a tricity?
I thought so! It's much easier to balance with the extra wheel, although it's not quite at the level of a trike where the bike stands on its own.
Really should have done the wheels in Yamaha blue. Backs a mess can’t be fixed was looking at Piaggio but don’t want to deal with their electrical foibles. Wish Honda would jump in. Like to see this in the larger cc size but it’s not very hard to squeeze some decent grunt out of this engine
Can you ride this one on a car licence in Britain?
I'm not in the UK, but I believe if you're over 21 you can, due to the wheel track width classifying the Tricity as a trike.
@@MotoJournoKris thanks👍
Hi, would you choose the tricity over the new mp3 300 hpe? Let's say they priced the same
I haven't actually tested the MP3, so it's hard to say anything specific.
Hi mate, thanks for your review on the scooter. I got few questions to ask if you can help me it would be appreciated.
1) can it handle heavy wind let’s say 40 k wind speed. How is the performance
2) what is the maximum speed it can go with out stress on the engine
3) can it easily cruise up hill with out lacking speed
4) How is the fuel efficiency of the scooter
Thanks
I didn't notice any issues with cross winds, even on the sections of freeway where it's common, however I also didn't have any of the really extremely windy days while testing.
120-130 was pretty cruisy on the flat sections, one of the things I like about the 300 is it has a nice amount of torque and I didn't feel like I was taxing the engine, unlike on some of the smaller machines where you really need to use a lot of throttle.
For hills I think it depends, at lower speeds and around town I don't think you'll have any issues. The only place I noticed it wouldn't accelerate is at about 115 km/h up one of the steepest parts of the motorway out of Sydney. There it just sat at 115, but didn't slow down or speed up.
I was filling up about 5L per 150 km roughly (not on an empty tank), so not as amazing as something like the little NMax 155, but pretty good I thought.
I did 303 miles (imperial uk) at 60mph to 70 mph with heavy winds on the coast for a third of my journey and it did 85mpg according to the avg of yamaha's onboard comp
It needs a bigger engine for this weight [239 kg wet, Kris, not 250]. Maybe a 500. But it would cost a lot. I'm not anti-three wheels at all. One of my motorcycles back home in southern Europe is a Can-Am Spyder F3-S. I regard it as my car. Back to this machine: I don't like keyless. I made a point when I bought my Aerox in Chiang Rai of getting a model with a key. These keyless systems can fail.
Good review, as ever.
I'm not a big keyless fan to be honest, and the battery running out or there being some issue that can leave you stranded is obviously a concern. I was actually surprised how much I liked it on this, I just left it in my jacket pocket and in effect it was like there was no key, which really fits the scooter vibe. I'd never argue against more power, but it's surprising how well it goes for legal speeds. And you're right, not quite at that 250 mark!
Can't understand they didn't use the bigger engine they already have,the xmax 400.
@@frankwhelan1715 Yea to be honest I'm not sure why that hasn't become the norm instead of the 300....
Think they come in to there own if you do have back issues or want to ride all year long no matter the weather. I would take one off them out on an icy day instead of my MT
Yep there's some real niche areas particularly where you can see them excelling.
Hey bud I got myself a tricity 300 yesterday. It needs to have a 1000 break in period. What gas do I put in it. 91 unleaded or 95 octane. The people that sold it to me 2 people said 2 different things it's confusesing me. Can you help
Moto
From what I can see, regular unleaded is ok (RON 95), and E10 is 'acceptable'.
So normal 91 unleaded for a new break in engine
@@Dazz-s7f I would say so, I haven't ever been recommended different fuels for break in, vs normal riding, but I normally stick to the recommendations and always avoid ethanol in fuel for my bikes, however I think some countries don't have ethanol free fuel, or it's only premium.
Can’t find one for sale in Ct yet it’s supposed to be here
I wonder if it will ever make it to Canada?
I've heard from a lot of people hoping it comes to their area around the globe, but sadly haven't seen anything about availability in Canada.
I have some problem with balancing, is it self balancing? So i dont have any trouble specialy when its traffic. Thank you
Not self balancing in the sense that there's anything other than the usual physics of a moving motorcycle, except when you lock the front steering/lean mechanism which will it keep the Tricity upright - if that's how it was sitting when you activate the lock/brake. The rest of the time the rider is in charge, but once you're moving like most bikes it wants to stay upright. It doesn't require very much input even at a standstill though to stay balanced.
Top speed?
I think this makes sense, for short vacations, where you do not know the kind of roads you will encounter, where you might need to go off road with the missus on the back till you get to your accommodation...
one question... would it cruise happily at 100kph for a couple of hours, and does that "leg brake lever feel in the way"... well i guess two questions then :-)
Definitely seemed happy to cruise along like that, and I've gone even further on the XMax 300 with the same engine.
@@MotoJournoKris I'd imagine so... Considering the weight difference... Tricity I carrying the weight of another person around...
@@dweedyburton8642 The only place I significantly noticed that was on very steep uphills where I wanted to sit at 110 and it would slowly drop off.
@@MotoJournoKris one would imagine that you'd feel it more with pillon and luggage though...
this front system can be use for Xmax 300?
This is essentially Yamaha's three-wheeled version of the XMax 300.
Thanks for sharing. A question on the suitability this Tricity for beginners into motor bike, then upgrading to two wheel after? Any thought what best to start with?
I'd definitely say you could start on a Tricity 300, it's a very manageable machine and the two front wheels really helps traction and stability. It's not impossible to drop by any means but the extra wheel counters the additional weight in large part. It's fairly similar to other scooters like the XMax in many regards otherwise.
You'd still be left with getting used to the balance and front end feel of a regular scooter if you were to switch over later, while a motorcycle adds the clutch and gearbox skills to that as well. So it should make that transition a lot easier. The different feel of the Tricity (and the Niken) is noticeable coming from a motorcycle, and I think that would go both ways.
Waste of money.
No need to get three wheels to learn on - riding bikes is not juggling knives where it’s best to start with something safer.... unless you were considering starting on a gixxer lol. A beginner bike is fine.
If you want a bike get a learner bike and take it easy. Get one of these if you want a bike for the city commute - they fit through the same gaps with a bit more stability as a regular scooter and have better braking.
I think the appeal of 3 wheelers as ‘safer’ is more a perceived risk than actual. If you’re in Australia and go through the lams system, really the biggest risk to you as a new rider is how you ride, not what, and this won’t make much difference with that.
If these were cheaper ... eh maybe, but way too much to spend just to learn on and turf
@@jonpram1737 Yep definitely not something you'd buy for just a year or planning on upgrading quickly as a stepping stone. Makes more sense if this is what you want long term, to justify the higher price tag, and where the Tricity's strengths come to the fore, like as a city commuter as you say.
@@Domn879 fair, but that’s really more a UK market specific plus to them, as assuming it’s similar to the mp3, in most other markets it’d need a motorcycle license/permit
@@jonpram1737 Multiple reasons to actually get a three wheeler. First ist of course the license. Not only can you ride it with only a car license, you can even get a 300ccm version were usually a 125ccm whiled have been the limit. Next if you are already looking at a maxi scooter like an Yamaha XMAX, you might consider the Tricity instead. It offers all the comfort etc from an XMAX, but its much more safer. There is no reason to choose a against safety and control. Plus an Xmax is heavy depending in the cirumstances that can be a problem (which I experienced myself two times when it hit the gras because the ground wasn't stable enough under the weight). As a three wheeler this ist a problem anymore. If you are driving in cities with many rails that could alone be a big benefit for a three wheeler.
Is it required balance to drive this scooter?
Yep, it will only stand upright when that front steering assembly is locked. Otherwise the rider is still balancing the scooter, as it leans to turn like a normal two wheeler.
How much is that in the Philippines, thanks
I've only seen pricing for the 125 version quoted I'm afraid.
When 4x4 motion and 1000cm3 ? With rear speed.
If these Dual Front End Bikes, er Trikes are so good.
how come the Major Manufacturers don't supply them in North America?
i've tried writing to Yamaha Canada concerning the Niken. No such luck was the Yamaha Canada Sales Representative reply. Go find a 2019 if you can was his return comment. He said they still serviced these products in Yamaha Outlets.
But that's not the issue.
The issue is, if these bikes er trikes are so much safer for the rider. If these bikes er trikes are or more than meet fuels requirement regulations for federal, State, Provincial governments.
Why are they not available for sale?
Europe, Asian countries, Australia, have them for sale. I can't even "special order" one from there to here.
So what's the problem, ordering a Yamaha Tricity or Niken into North America if they meet all the regulations for public sales?
Sounds like there isn't the demand to justify bringing them in, and these are pricey to start with, considering there's two wheeled versions that most people prefer. That's just guesswork on my part though. It's also possible that regardless of whether the vehicle meets all the requirements, that all the testing and paperwork needed to prove that is prohibitive, especially for a one-off purchase.
Do you need to set your feet on the ground when stopping at traffic lights like a traditional motorcycle? This design is very new to me.
No you don't...there's a switch you flick that locks the bike upright at lights etc
How cheap to fix and reliable the Tricity is compared to other similar 3 wheels motorcycles (like Piaggio's MP3) ...?
Good question, I'm not sure at this stage to be honest. I haven't heard of any reliability issues so far, but it's still early days.
@@MotoJournoKris I see, thanks, good luck with it :)
speed fast ?
It has really good pickup actually, and one-up handles freeway speeds easily, it's just very steep uphills where you'll notice the top speed suffers. You can cruise along at 120 easily in most conditions (km/h).
Is this available in the US
Not that I've been able to confirm yet, there was some mention it was going to be.
@@MotoJournoKris oh ok thank you
Isit available in India...
Wt wl d price..
Most of what I've seen has suggested it won't be available in India, but there's nothing concrete either way.
Bring in philippines manila excellent tree wheels yamaha
how we get this in india
Can't find any confirmation they'll be sold in India unfortunately!
How much in India's price
I haven't yet seen anything about an Indian release or pricing I'm afraid.
NOT AVAILABLE IN THE USA YET
I test motorcycles in Australia, so occasionally it's a model not available everywhere unfortunately.
@@MotoJournoKris you made a wonderful video and I learned a few things....NOT YOUR FAULT.. .
is it availali in the U,S,
Not that I've seen I'm afraid.... But I could be wrong.
@@MotoJournoKris I saw a article written in conjunction use a trade show. Like they say you can't believe everything you read on the enthernet. I called two big dealers in Florida, and they haven't heard a thing.
@@MrManta2012 Yep, it's strange I've seen a few people mention it was going to be but no official sources, but nothing eventuated!
Only really made as in some countries you don’t need a motorcycle licence to ride - otherwise they wouldn’t bother building these I’d say…..
Yea it would make sense that's the majority of sales, and we just see them elsewhere as a bonus.
550cc would be nice
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It's 239kg. Good review anyway.
m p 3 is heavier .
Yes, better. 😉
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If you want to stop twice as fast as an Xmax...
I'd be interested to see the braking distances compared. I generally find you're more aware of the weight of the bigger scooters when braking, just because of the weight distribution being low, which was certainly the case here being even heavier. But it did pull up impressively all things considered.
Not available india yahama tree city 300
Yea unfortunately these haven't come to a number of markets.
I would by one if they had one 500cc the 300cc is to weak
Would be very interesting to see one with the 560 twin in it!
I agree that 300cc is weak for long highway commute or cross country, 400cc( Majesty) is just enough one-up. Two-up 600cc
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