One Bird vs. Ahlul Sunnah | The Hadith of al-Tayr

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  • @TheBelievers112
    @TheBelievers112  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Do not forget to join our server!
    discord.com/invite/K89FzMPPSN
    Just an additional point:
    Qadhi Numan al-Maghrabi (d.363) quotes at-Tabari (d.310) while abridging an Isnad to Abū Ayyub al-Ansari the Hadith of at-Tayr.
    This means we have records of in-fact eleven companions who narrate this report.
    - Ibn Asad

    • @SyedRaza-t4m
      @SyedRaza-t4m 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Salam can you unban my brother who tried to join the server when he was 15 and he got banned permanently. He’s now 16 and old enough for the server

    • @TheBelievers112
      @TheBelievers112  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What is the name of your brothers user?

    • @SyedRaza-t4m
      @SyedRaza-t4m 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheBelievers112 kRaBsArEbAcK

    • @Mohammed-Baqer-313
      @Mohammed-Baqer-313 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So i am in the vc verification and no one has come to talk with me

    • @DuBeIssI
      @DuBeIssI 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Whats the point when you ban anyone with a difference of opinion, even shias lmao

  • @mohammadmehdihashemi5992
    @mohammadmehdihashemi5992 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    May Allah curse the eyes that when looking at a virtue of Imam Ali (a.s), desperatly looks at the chain to somehow prove one of its narrators weak in any way possible.

    • @JadAwwad
      @JadAwwad 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Indeed
      God bless you

  • @ethandouro4334
    @ethandouro4334 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    May Allah bless Mohammed and Family of Mohammed

  • @jewadalbaghdady3285
    @jewadalbaghdady3285 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    More of this back and forth, co host ting. May Allah bless you guys.

  • @abdul_majid_ict
    @abdul_majid_ict 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    for some reason i enjoy the longer videos than short ones. Thank you for your hard work into this amazing video!

  • @eyrrrr
    @eyrrrr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There is a book called
    (فِي حَديِثِ الطّائِرِ )
    by Sayed Raad Al-Marsoumi that you can benefit from on the topic of bird hadith

  • @HusseinAlAmili12
    @HusseinAlAmili12 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Salam from Jabal Amel!

  • @HusseinAlAmili12
    @HusseinAlAmili12 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Can you guys please do a video about evidence for the uslil belief against the akhbaris?

    • @JadAwwad
      @JadAwwad 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Our greatest scholars were Akhbari , from Sheikh Mohammad Ibn Ya'koub Al-Kulayni to Sheikh Mohammad Baqir Majlisi
      Both schools have true and wrong approaches
      I dare say the akhbaris have the upper hand in most arguments
      (Don't be fooled by the modern so called neo akhbaris like Wathiq Al-Shummari , those are clowns)

    • @user-qe3qs9bv2r
      @user-qe3qs9bv2r 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they dont focus on those kinda polemics iirc

  • @aliagha1221
    @aliagha1221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All the most educated people and scientists in the world have noticed who the real prophet Muhammad(SAWA) was and thought of him to be the most INTELLIGENT man who ever lived, yet our Sunni families still think he was not smart enough to know after himself over a million of his followers needed someone to lead them!

  • @eyrrrr
    @eyrrrr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Through a little research, I learned that the bird hadith is weak according to them, but it came from multiple paths, and according to my humble knowledge, multiple paths strengthen weak hadiths to the rank of hasan, right?
    Your brother from Iraq ❤

    • @muhammed_kadhimi
      @muhammed_kadhimi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Did ya watch the video? They prove it to be authentic.

    • @eyrrrr
      @eyrrrr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@muhammed_kadhimi
      Not yet, but I'm watching it now

    • @muhammed_kadhimi
      @muhammed_kadhimi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@eyrrrr watch the video first before commenting, they address the problem of its authenticity

  • @Xiad5
    @Xiad5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Can you please make a video on ibn tamiya and how we shia can counter his views.....also recommend books of rad e ibn tamiya ... Apart from his anthropomorphic views ...

    • @samcorrityne1433
      @samcorrityne1433 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      May Allah grant Sheikh Ibn Taymiyyah a high rank in paradise.

    • @Xiad5
      @Xiad5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@samcorrityne1433 bro was depressed

    • @samcorrityne1433
      @samcorrityne1433 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Xiad5 Bro worked hard for the deen, dedicated his life to it. We don't even compare an ounce to him

    • @maisamtejani
      @maisamtejani 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@samcorrityne1433 my cat has mountains of iman more than ibn taymiyyah. Ibn Taytay doens't compare an ounce to the iman of any muslim

    • @samcorrityne1433
      @samcorrityne1433 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maisamtejani Kids, please say no to drugs.

  • @oversteer6771
    @oversteer6771 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jazakum Allah for this beautiful channel 😊 so much learned! I always click so fast on every episode. Can you please make an episode on tawasul (particularly about calling upon dead) this is where Sunnis keep debating it that it can only be called upon alive people . I’m aware of the ayah discussing martyrs are not dead and also the Hadith of umar going to prophets grave to request rain with the prophets uncle . They claim that he says he used to go to the prophet when he was alive but now go to his uncle since he’s alive. Thoughts ?

  • @potatoman-vro
    @potatoman-vro 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    lol i refuted this a long time ago. and about Ubaidallah, why did you try to authenticate him, it clearly says that the narrator is ubaidullah and not abdullah. futhermore, it sasy in 38:58 that yazeed al rashk narrated from him, Ubaidallah was not narrated from yazeed bin rashk. Also why would Dhahabi say about him that he is majhool if he knew all these authentications on him??

    • @potatoman-vro
      @potatoman-vro 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      also in 17:52 ya mudaliseen, after the part you read where it says its weak because of his bidah, ibn hajar basically says about Ubaidallah that he is majhool.الله يهديكم يا زنادقة

    • @potatoman-vro
      @potatoman-vro 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also abdullah bin mothna isnt strong except when he narrates from his uncle.

    • @potatoman-vro
      @potatoman-vro 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      and Thahabi didnt authenticate it, he said its fabricated at al Mughni fi al Du’afa’, 2/394

  • @decomposed4295
    @decomposed4295 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    why does it say 1 minute ago?

    • @TheBelievers112
      @TheBelievers112  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      It was released a minute ago

    • @ethandouro4334
      @ethandouro4334 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@TheBelievers112now it says 30 min ago

    • @re4lity176
      @re4lity176 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TheBelievers112now it says 1 month ago

  • @jaleel42
    @jaleel42 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    😅

  • @astroflyinsights
    @astroflyinsights 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So much time, effort spent on hadith and divisions over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Quran 25:30.

  • @satiricalpataphysician8938
    @satiricalpataphysician8938 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Assalamualaikum, what is the source for the thumbnail? I have seen that painting, and as far as I know, it shows an Al-Azhari shaykh. Do you have a link?

  • @khalilmason
    @khalilmason 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Glorify Allah and Muhammad morning and night.” - Quran 33:36; 48:9
    “Obeying Muhammad is obeying Allah…” - Quran 4:80, 33:36, 46:31, 33:55-56
    Isn’t that Shirk? Does the Quran not equate Muhammad’s authority to Allah’s here?

    • @Mirko7012
      @Mirko7012 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As for 33:36 and 48:9, those verses do not say what you have claimed. As for the latter ones, yes; obeying Muhammad (ص) is obeying Allah. How is that shirk? Shirk is associating a partner with Allah (i.e. in lordship or in worship or in his attributes etc). Obeying the prophet is obeying Allah because Muhammad (ص) is a messenger of Allah. Allah reveals the religion through him and Allah has made him infallible. Ergo, obeying the prophet is obeying Allah BECAUSE Allah has ORDERED us to obey his messenger. Do you now understand?

  • @sayed129
    @sayed129 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job again keep up the great work

  • @Norcus1
    @Norcus1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm not a Sunni or Shia, I'm a muslim. Whatever Allah revealed in the Quran and the Authentic hadith of Prophet Muhammad (s.a), that is what i follow.

    • @gq55sqgq55sqdoa
      @gq55sqgq55sqdoa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are worse than donkeys. That's what sunni hadith books says about muslims who follows only the Quran
      And if you really listen to prophet Muhammad. Then prophet Muhammad says follow my householders.
      You liar

    • @SarimNaqvi-k5u
      @SarimNaqvi-k5u หลายเดือนก่อน

      The prophet in Hadith instructed us to follow the Quran and his ahlul bayt ie Muhammad Fatima Ali hassan Husain. If u want to be a Muslim then shiaism is the only true path as they are the only sect that fulfill the prophets request to love and respect his family on equal ground with the Quran.

    • @gq55sqgq55sqdoa
      @gq55sqgq55sqdoa หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SarimNaqvi-k5u well said

  • @mostafahashmi8950
    @mostafahashmi8950 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m Shia and I have a question. Does this narration also exist in our Shia books?

    • @TheBelievers112
      @TheBelievers112  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, it exists in various Shia works. We quoted one near the end of the video from Sheikh al-Ṣaduq’s work.

  • @albadrharharah5753
    @albadrharharah5753 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ahsant wa barik allahu feekum

  • @samcorrityne1433
    @samcorrityne1433 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Much respect and love to the wives of Prophet Muhammad PBUH, and all his family members, and the Khalifas Imam Abu Bakr, Imam Omar, Imam Othman, and Imam Ali ❤

    • @gq55sqgq55sqdoa
      @gq55sqgq55sqdoa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't put the names of great people next to demons
      Abu bakr and omar and othman were evil.
      And 2 wives of. Muhammad were also evil.
      God bless to Muhammad and to imam Ali, lady Fatima. Imam hassan and imam hussian

    • @samcorrityne1433
      @samcorrityne1433 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@gq55sqgq55sqdoa Let me guess you believe that Prophet Muhammad PBUH daughters were also evil, you also believe that the daughter of Imam Ali was evil

    • @gq55sqgq55sqdoa
      @gq55sqgq55sqdoa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@samcorrityne1433 you are a fool and nasibi and blind.
      G
      Didn't you see me saying God bless to Muhammad and imam Ali and lady Fatima

    • @alimaster5292
      @alimaster5292 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@samcorrityne1433 brother its about guessing, its about the reality. there is proof and evidence on Umar and Abu bakr without respect to Messenger of Allah (s.w.t)

    • @jah-4
      @jah-4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you are stupid

  • @jewadalbaghdady3285
    @jewadalbaghdady3285 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You say mutiwatter is a way we can prove its authenticity, and that basically means a mass transmitted narration. But cant the same thing be said about other mass transmitted narrations, that are obviously a lie, how can they be authentic?
    like jesus being son of god, astagfallah

    • @moesh5475
      @moesh5475 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      its different when its outside of islamic work, might as well do that for hinduism

    • @muhammed_kadhimi
      @muhammed_kadhimi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is no mass transmission for that saying being attributed to Jesus lol

    • @ali-55928
      @ali-55928 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@moesh5475 Where did you get this information? Tawatur under correct conditions is a way to reach knowledge no matter what sphere, it doesn't make sense to say that it only works for islam and for the rest it dosent. That would only be a fallacy. How do you know china actually exist if you never went there? You know china exist because of tawatur. Same for historical facts in the past, like the existence of empires. Tawatur can give certainty, but only under **specific conditions**. Which cannot be explained under a comment, you can learn about the conditions of tawatur with our scholars. If you know arabic, checkout al baheth, he has a video on tawatur and he also responded to a question about using tawatur for the crucifiction of Isa (A).

    • @kebab7023
      @kebab7023 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The difference is is that this isn't just a general claim they are making. They are transmitting that they heard the exact same thing, from the exact same people, at the exact same time, with the exact same wording. These are people across many different generations, tribes, etc, who have never even met each other. They could never have conspired together, so if they all narrate the exact same thing, the only logically conclusion is that it happened.

    • @jewadalbaghdady3285
      @jewadalbaghdady3285 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kebab7023 can't other religions and schools of thought claim the same thing ? What's the difference in that sense?

  • @zamanraf7836
    @zamanraf7836 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm aware of a particular chain of this hadith in which all the narrators are Muhaddith(Highest grading given to a narrator after Sheikh al Islam and Imam if i'm not mistaken) and Ahmed Ibn Hanbal is also their in the chain. I would like to mention the source if you guys are interested.

    • @juniorslice9618
      @juniorslice9618 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes please mention the source for us

    • @zamanraf7836
      @zamanraf7836 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@juniorslice9618 I actually made a mistake, the narrator named Ahmad here in the chain is not Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, but Ahmad Ibn Al-Ja'ad Al-Washa'a but I checked his biography on Hadithdb and he's been graded Thiqah(Thruthful). There's is also a person named Al-Awzaii in the chain and he's on the ranks of Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Abu Hanifa, etc.
      Mu'jam Al-Awsat, Volume 2, Page 443 (Printed on 1405 Hijri / 1985)
      Ahmad(Ibn Al-Ja'ad Al-Washa'a) narrated to us, said: Salamah ibn Shabib narrated to us, said: Abd al-Razzaq narrated to us, said: Al-Awza'i informed us from Yahya ibn Abi Kathir.
      From Anas ibn Malik, who said: Umm Ayman gifted to the Prophet (peace be upon him) a bird between two loaves of bread. Then the Prophet (peace be upon him) came and said, "Do you have anything?" She brought him the bird, and he raised his hands and said, "O Allah, bring to me the most beloved of Your creation to You to eat with me from this bird." Then Ali came, and I said, "The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) is busy, and the Prophet (peace be upon him) has just entered." The Prophet (peace be upon him) ate some of the bird, then raised his hand and said, "O Allah, bring to me the most beloved of Your creation to You to eat with me from this bird." Then Ali came, and the voice was raised between me and him. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "Let him in whoever he may be." So he entered. Then the Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "My guardian, O Lord," three times, and he ate with the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) until they finished.
      Here's the Arabic Text
      حدثنا أحمد قال : حدثنا سلمة بن شبيب قال : حدثنا عبد الرزاق قال : أخبرنا الأوزاعي عن يحيى بن أبي كثير .
      [ ص: 443 ] عن أنس بن مالك قال : أهدت أم أيمن إلى النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم طائرا بين رغيفين . فجاء النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ، فقال : " هل عندكم شيء ؟ " فجاءته بالطائر ، فرفع يديه ، فقال : " اللهم ائتني بأحب خلقك إليك ، يأكل معي من هذا الطائر " ، فجاء علي ، فقلت : إن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم مشغول ، وإنما دخل النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم آنفا . . . النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم من الطائر شيئا ، ثم رفع يده ، فقال : " اللهم ائتني بأحب خلقك إليك يأكل معي من هذا الطائر " ، فجاء علي ، فارتفع الصوت بيني وبينه ، فقال النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم : " أدخله من كان " ، فدخل . فقال النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم : " والي يا رب " ثلاث مرات ، فأكل مع رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم حتى فرغا " .

  • @arari8578
    @arari8578 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ahsant