Could you consider doing a re-boxing video for the all-in pledge please? I actually feel a little overwhelmed with the whole package, having just received it.
@@kennychan6645 Personally as someone who is deep into frosthaven right now, I would still say yes. Its nice to just pick up and be casual without as many moving parts AND its a nice entry point if youre unsure if someone will enjoy the concepts and mechanics in gloom/frost. Not to mention price point lol
Haha! I really enjoyed this review. Especially Violet and Ruby calling out Tom about him dying the most, damaging his own team, and his criticism of anime. Hahaha I’m looking forward to more Vasel family reviews. Keep up the great work Violet and Ruby.
As much fun as the component drop was, it always bothered me that I couldn't really see individual pieces. This new camera pan solves that problem! And it shows how much space the game takes up on your table. Thanks!
I can't wait to get my copy. A few comments: You can actually be more than one elite class as long as you meet the requirements. The rule is that only one player can be a particular elite class (so you cannot have 2 necromancers). When you take a level in a different elite class, it replaces your current class card, however if you take another level in an elite class that isn't your current class, it will replace it again. When leveling up, there are different symbols next to the cards that you add. One of them indicates that you can replace a card which means that you can cull cards out from your deck which adds another element to the level up process. Additionally, the Side Quest book is not part of the base game. It was a kickstarter bonus or can be ordered directly from Letiman Games for non-backers.
I can't express enough how cool this game is. I played the prototype quite a bit. This is literally FFT. When and if they come back to KS, this game could be a great game. That random order thing, I was hoping they changed that too. I totally agree with this review.
There are some classes that can influence the Initiative Order. We also added a mechanic that allows you to cash in a Revive Potion that allows you to completely re-do the Initiative as well. It can be risky to do that as those are basically your party's lives but can prevent you from running into a situation where it feels like you have "bad" back-to-back Initiatives. That being said, I'm open to revisiting the mechanic in the future as well!
Love this guys!!! Violet, you're so insightful and Ruby your "I'm Ruby" at the end gives me a huge smile!! Would love to see more of these videos and when my kids are old enough soon I hope to be looking at both of your recommendations for which games to play. Thank you so much! God bless your entire family.
I really do love this game. It’s been a fun recreation of FFT. I’ll also say the directions need improvement and the boss card actions need clarification. For instance there was an action that read if there are two or more undefeated... Why describe that action in the negative versus saying if you defeated 2 or more. Also there were multiple instances were names changed spoiler warning is it the (c***d) of light or of destiny. Why use them interchangeably. There was another instance were we didn’t know if the boss began emerged or not emerged. Generally I love the game and this is making me want to go back and play Jaws of the Lion.
Ah, sounds like an Aeon's End style turn-order system, which I recall being one of Tom's biggest issues with that game as well. Very fun review to watch! Might have to check this out. And yes, nothing wrong with anime! ^_^
Question. Obv feels like it's geared to a younger audience (awesome) but also looks like there are a lot of abilities/cards on the dashboard. Did your kids utilize/remember them all, or were you sometimes reminding them "oh, dont forget you have this, and you can do this..."
This is a common question: Which game to get for my kids? There are a few very good kids games released lately: Adventure Tactics: Domianne's Tower, Andor the family fantasy game, Chronicles of Avel, CoraQuest, and The Quest Kids According to BGG rating (and their age group as per community): 1 Coraquest 6+ 2 Adventure Tactics: Domianne's Tower 8+ 3 Chronicles of Avel 6+ 4 The Quest Kids 3+ 5 Andor the family fantasy game 5+ Of the 5, the only 1 I own is CoraQuest. It is as good as they say it is. I would argue it is the most play tested by kids out of the bunch, since kids (including the designer's own daughter) was heavily involved in its design. Other than kids, I was also able to play this with adults who has never dungeon crawled before, and they all got it in a few minutes. So this can potentially also be used as a gateway game to start an adult dungeon crawl group, before you start playing Gloomhaven and others. The other games also looks good from the reviews I watched. It just depends on your kids and their age. I cannot speak more about them because I haven't play them.
I am glad that Tom have pointed out the similarities of this game with Final Fantasy Tactics. The leveling up system with different class requirements and skills are amazing! Hope to play this game soon 😁
Thank you for the review. I really liked some parts of Gloomhaven but the theme is too dark to be appealing to my kids and I. I think this game will be a great game to level up characters in a lighter setting. Just ordered it from CoolStuff.
I had seen a different review which indicated that some of the components had quality control issues. Does anyone know if they have been resolved, or maybe that one was an anomaly?
The big problem is the player boards being warped. They've announced they're having new ones made, but no date for release or if/how much it will cost to replace them.
how expensive is this game. on the creators company website is is $90.00 plus shipping for the main game. Is this because a rarity/scarcity or is this the retail price?
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Thanks so much for checking it out
Hoping you have a bit more diversity in the works.
@@jareduxr the game has a good amount of diversity imo, have you even played it?
@@jareduxr Maybe you should be more specific about what kind of diversity you think the game needs. "More diversity" is not a helpful criticism.
@@jareduxr I agree. We need to diversify! We definitely need more people who don't bitch about diversity.
Could you consider doing a re-boxing video for the all-in pledge please? I actually feel a little overwhelmed with the whole package, having just received it.
Drop "The Drop" confirmed! It's a big change and I am here for it!
My feel was that this was a lighter Gloomhaven. Lighter box, lighter art, lighter gameplay, but a lot of mechanics still felt like Gloomhaven.
Yea my question is….parking children interest aside…will you get this over gloomhaven?
@@kennychan6645 Personally as someone who is deep into frosthaven right now, I would still say yes. Its nice to just pick up and be casual without as many moving parts AND its a nice entry point if youre unsure if someone will enjoy the concepts and mechanics in gloom/frost. Not to mention price point lol
Right…thanks for replying!
“Daddy killed me with a fireball” lol
Haha! I really enjoyed this review. Especially Violet and Ruby calling out Tom about him dying the most, damaging his own team, and his criticism of anime. Hahaha I’m looking forward to more Vasel family reviews. Keep up the great work Violet and Ruby.
As much fun as the component drop was, it always bothered me that I couldn't really see individual pieces. This new camera pan solves that problem! And it shows how much space the game takes up on your table. Thanks!
Its a cool addition to have more of your kids on the show!
I can't wait to get my copy. A few comments:
You can actually be more than one elite class as long as you meet the requirements. The rule is that only one player can be a particular elite class (so you cannot have 2 necromancers). When you take a level in a different elite class, it replaces your current class card, however if you take another level in an elite class that isn't your current class, it will replace it again.
When leveling up, there are different symbols next to the cards that you add. One of them indicates that you can replace a card which means that you can cull cards out from your deck which adds another element to the level up process.
Additionally, the Side Quest book is not part of the base game. It was a kickstarter bonus or can be ordered directly from Letiman Games for non-backers.
Thanks for the clarifications, Tristan! Good points, all around.
Violet and ruby are not camera shy! They did a great job! You guys sold me on this game!
I enjoyed your guys’ review so much. Looks like a great game
X. x BBCh Jin. V softyuylkyuu.
I had to stop by and see for myself... NO COMPONENT DROP! Luckily it has no effect on the quality of reviews ;). Thanks Tom, looks fun!
I can't express enough how cool this game is. I played the prototype quite a bit. This is literally FFT. When and if they come back to KS, this game could be a great game. That random order thing, I was hoping they changed that too. I totally agree with this review.
There are some classes that can influence the Initiative Order. We also added a mechanic that allows you to cash in a Revive Potion that allows you to completely re-do the Initiative as well. It can be risky to do that as those are basically your party's lives but can prevent you from running into a situation where it feels like you have "bad" back-to-back Initiatives.
That being said, I'm open to revisiting the mechanic in the future as well!
Fantastic Kickstarter from 2019. Fingers crossed for an expansion box in 2021!
Tom loved the game so much he wouldn't do the drop!? This is a MUST BUY! ❤️
This is one of the most adorable reviews I've ever watched.
Make a dice people mascot for these reviews as a puppy with huge cute eyes.
Love this guys!!! Violet, you're so insightful and Ruby your "I'm Ruby" at the end gives me a huge smile!! Would love to see more of these videos and when my kids are old enough soon I hope to be looking at both of your recommendations for which games to play. Thank you so much! God bless your entire family.
I just preordered this for my birthday because I was looking for an easier dungeon crawl and I love the level up and class changes they offer.
I really do love this game. It’s been a fun recreation of FFT. I’ll also say the directions need improvement and the boss card actions need clarification. For instance there was an action that read if there are two or more undefeated... Why describe that action in the negative versus saying if you defeated 2 or more. Also there were multiple instances were names changed spoiler warning is it the (c***d) of light or of destiny. Why use them interchangeably. There was another instance were we didn’t know if the boss began emerged or not emerged.
Generally I love the game and this is making me want to go back and play Jaws of the Lion.
Ah, sounds like an Aeon's End style turn-order system, which I recall being one of Tom's biggest issues with that game as well. Very fun review to watch! Might have to check this out.
And yes, nothing wrong with anime! ^_^
Question. Obv feels like it's geared to a younger audience (awesome) but also looks like there are a lot of abilities/cards on the dashboard. Did your kids utilize/remember them all, or were you sometimes reminding them "oh, dont forget you have this, and you can do this..."
This is a common question: Which game to get for my kids?
There are a few very good kids games released lately:
Adventure Tactics: Domianne's Tower, Andor the family fantasy game, Chronicles of Avel, CoraQuest, and The Quest Kids
According to BGG rating (and their age group as per community):
1 Coraquest 6+
2 Adventure Tactics: Domianne's Tower 8+
3 Chronicles of Avel 6+
4 The Quest Kids 3+
5 Andor the family fantasy game 5+
Of the 5, the only 1 I own is CoraQuest. It is as good as they say it is. I would argue it is the most play tested by kids out of the bunch, since kids (including the designer's own daughter) was heavily involved in its design. Other than kids, I was also able to play this with adults who has never dungeon crawled before, and they all got it in a few minutes. So this can potentially also be used as a gateway game to start an adult dungeon crawl group, before you start playing Gloomhaven and others.
The other games also looks good from the reviews I watched. It just depends on your kids and their age. I cannot speak more about them because I haven't play them.
I am glad that Tom have pointed out the similarities of this game with Final Fantasy Tactics. The leveling up system with different class requirements and skills are amazing! Hope to play this game soon 😁
Sounds like that Mike curse of bad rolls/card draws is contagious! :o
This looks like a family version of a cross between Gloomhaven and Too Many Bones : ]
I'm glad Tom liked it after playing it, even though he didn't when he looked at the KS. Also, this doesn't look like a kid's game does it?
Mechanics are simple but tons of options for level up and equipment. Kids can get it.
Such a beautiful game. My sons just love it!
Rahdo said this could be the next Gloomhaven in a stream so pretty good recommendations overall.
@@clvrswine no one. Absolutely no one watches Rahdo or the Dice Tower or cares what they think. You cam finally move on and not worry about it.
Loved this format, so good.
Will try to catch the (inevitable?) next KS.
Awesome job all. You've got natural camera presence
Violet and Ruby! I want to see your top 50 games! Please!
That would be awesome and possibly toms favorite to play with his family.
Rolling a lot one ones? Take comfort in the knowledge that Mike can't even hit a rock.
After completing Gloomhaven, this looks like the next thing to do. My inner child says ... yaaay !
For kids, under 10, would you recommend this over Stuffed Fables, Heroquest, or Mice & Mystics?
Thank you for the review. I really liked some parts of Gloomhaven but the theme is too dark to be appealing to my kids and I. I think this game will be a great game to level up characters in a lighter setting.
Just ordered it from CoolStuff.
Awesome video :D Need more Vasel Family Reviews
I had seen a different review which indicated that some of the components had quality control issues. Does anyone know if they have been resolved, or maybe that one was an anomaly?
The big problem is the player boards being warped. They've announced they're having new ones made, but no date for release or if/how much it will cost to replace them.
What's the top middle box on the wall?
There should be several ways to house rule the initiative order on bgg by now
Looks like a fun game, also like the boku no hero academia hat from Ruby!! :D
One of the best Tom's reviews. I usually only like his really negative reviews. Must be the lighting. :D
This game is frickin amazeballs! I can't wait for MORE!!!
Was Ruby playing in the same chair that Mike uses?
how expensive is this game. on the creators company website is is $90.00 plus shipping for the main game. Is this because a rarity/scarcity or is this the retail price?
there's 6 copies left on Miniature Market for preorder for $57.99 USD
Lol Love Tom’s daughters keeping him honest.
Lovely kids! Great review.
They said i like it at the same time!
Collateral damage 😆, A anime series oldie but good was the Slayers series, pretty good and goes along with the theme of the game
Text on the underside of a baseball cap's bill... Interesting.
This sounds like a more family friendly Middara.
These kids are throwing so much shade, they’re oak trees. 🤣
What a lovely review!!! Loved it !
Holy crap! 9.5! Wow!!
thx for the explenation
Your daughters are making me laugh dude
nice review, thank you for this... hope this game gets a german localization ;) looks great!
Finally the drop is gone!
It was the only part Inwaa skipping all the time, well ok and the intro sequence was to long.
Do all of Tom's kids have names that are nouns? He's like Joss Whedon!
(Not proper nouns. You know what I mean.)
There’s Amy, Clara, and Jimmy also
@@tribalguy2 Oh. Well so much for that. I have a new theory: all of Tom's kids who have noun names enjoy board games.
"Don't you dare say 'eh'!"
Is that a My Hero Academia hat I see?!?! Nice.
Ruby got her confidence from her dad. Is the game hard? Ehh. 😂
Really don’t like the art. Wish it was more Epic like old school Hero Quest. Passing based just on theme. Too bad, seems like the game play is great.
To each his own, but good lord no. I don't think Hero Quest has aged well but the art has aged the worst.
Isn't there enough of that kind of art style in board games and rpg games in general? Frankly I can't stand the boring old style.
Personally I love the art. It's a big reason I got the game.