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This was an excellent video. You can't stop people from stealing, but you can out them. Goid job. Your fixing the blade was tedious but gratifying. It was a great job and only time will tell how long it will last. Your test jig was ingenious. Well done. Keep the goodness coming. Be happy, safe and stay healthy 😷⚒
That was super fascinating! I didnt even know the difference between those types of blades and to see you actually doing the repair on camera, was awesome. Its definitely something that i would not try to do at home, but you are not the average user either! Thank you for sharing that information. Your information stands up to any scrutiny. That was extremely helpful and informative. I learn so much from watching your videos. Any day i can learn something new, is a good day!
Thank you, I don't even know if this is something I would really want to do again myself. It took so much time messing around with it off camera to get it right.
Glad you were able to get that blade repaired! Hopefully it lasts longer after you've worked on it. Loved the intro, as well. Hope the next blades don't last so little before they go too!
Great way to honestly work through being taken advantage of and being fair. You do an amazing job of taking what's handed you and making it work! Thanks again for another informative video, Jared!
This never happened to me(outright bending) but the old one did stall a couple of times. At that point it was well worn. Also I made pandora bracelet stones (quartz-mine, tiger eye-bought, fauxonyx-mine)
Hi Jared, well done. Some interesting info in the video. You are a “Rockhounding Nerd” and I mean that in a good way. You don’t seem to accept normal convention and get into the detail of each subject. I for one thank you for the info you provide in your videos. As a retiree who has only been in the hobby for about 4 years it is quite interesting to have your level of detail to view and gain a little education on various subjects you cover. 👍. Keep Safe & Keep Rockin.
Great video and i admire your machinist skills. Im a retired Boeing electrical/electronic technician and have worked with some amazing machinists.They could engineer/fabricate precision products out of a rock. I relied on them so much for the projects i was involved in. Im not confident those skills exist up here in the PNW anymore. That’s nothing to do with Boeing’s problems today. Those have to do with outsourcing and the pressure to work faster and push out those planes.
That was really interesting Sort of the sort of thing my brother might tackle( bicycle fabricator) Nice to watch your process and see it through to the end. I too didn’t put a lot of thought into how my blades were made. Thankyou for the in depth look at the various types and quality of the steel etc I’m rambling….keep the blade rolling Take care
Great topic. I really enjoy your blade series. I also really enjoy hearing your opinions. It great to hear from someone who doesn’t censor their opinions. From someone who knows how it feels when someone steals your pictures, it is very annoying. My product photos are all around the world, still in use today. Water under the bridge, right? 🤦♀️🤷♀️. I never knew those type of segments were replaceable. I was today years old finding this out. lol. This is why I love your content. There is always something I am learning. Thanks for all the work you put into your content. I really appreciate it. Stay Crystal 💫 Mari
Yeah its a bummer really, you know if anyone wants to use my photos or video they can just ask and there is a 99% chance I will say yes and I have said yes to all the requests in the past.
Wow! Strong work Jared!!! I thought that blade was toasted for sure. Love the information on your channel it’s nice to hear opinions from someone who is both knowledgeable and unbiased. Maybe slightly biased but… with good reason! 😆👍🏼
I wonder if that was my post you saw in fb. The issue with highland park is the placement of the overload. If the saw motor trips the overload, it doesn’t stop the feed drive from running, which is what causes that blade breakage like that. I managed to repair my blade in a similar fashion, but I went a step further and built a control panel that eliminated that problem from ever happening again. Now if the motor overload trips for any reason, the feed also stops and everything is fine.
As usual, your subject is one I have dealt with before as well. I however was not as thorough as you were. My 12" blade was bent over quite badly. By placing it on a flat surface and hammering it out I was able to get it flat enough to continue using it. It is unfortunate what happened with HP. I've had better luck in my dealings with them. It would have been a better test if you had cut some Agate since it is an "Agate Eater" blade. I have one on my 18" saw. It is super noisy and super thick, so you loose a lot of material when cutting slabs. But it does work through most every material I've tossed at it. Still a nice video. Keep up the good work. I've injured myself, so not doing videos much right now.
Thank you! I have been continuing to run the blade since fixing it and I have cut up a bunch of different materials with it. It might be a cost effective blade but it does come at the cost of how much material you lose in the cut.
Very good 👍 and informative, I like, as a retired fitter machinists your right on. With the dial indicator on the final testing it should be on bare metal as you will get some run out from the paint. You did a great job and, that, company should take note and apologise or give you credit, don't hold your breathe waiting . But keep up the good work and the informative vids. Stay safe and rock on 🤘 👍
Oh man this is like amateur hour shade tree machining here. I'm sure my el-cheap-o dial indicator has issues as well being that its like $20 and not a beautiful one from starrett.
Solid video, thanks for the demonstration, and hurray for saving blades! How does that flatness compare to a new blade on the truing rig? Would give you a good baseline. If the spot was mangled beyond repair, you could potentially cut the bad area from the blade and leave a notch (as long as it's trued up). My club has an inch or two gap in a blade about that size and it's still cutting like a champ. Ours might be sintered, though.
I would love to try running a broken blade like that but I think would need to be sintered, this blade operates like a zipper so if its missing a tooth the other will all get loose in time. Currently I don't have any new 14" blades to test but I hope to get another at some point in the future.
Great video! All the facts and figures, images and measurements, made for a very well put together story of a damaged saw blade and its repair. Is the use of segments in a blade rather than a continuous sintered blade a cost saving measure? What does it mean when you say a quality blade is tensioned? Thank you for another quality video.
So my understanding of a tensioned blade is that a manufacture will lightly stamp rings around the perimeter of the blade which will create tension in the steel and make it resist bending more than an un-tensioned blade. However at the end of the day you can pretty much bend all of them.
Thanks for sharing this info, very interesting to see how they add the diamonds. Looking at how that blade is put together, from an engineering perspective, each slot that is filled with the diamond bar is a potential fail point. As well as the metal not being tempered, not sure if I would looking at those kinds of blades for my saws.
Excellent repair job sir! The start of my relationship with HP was not good. They called me a few hundred times, usually twice a day to try to sell me stuff. I don't think I will be purchasing anything from them.
I think one major thing you forgot. YOU repaired it. A continuous rim blade with that much damage is probably trash. I have a HP 14" and use that exact blade. They are true work horses and sell for a price that is manageable for the hobbyist. I have 2 of them because I too, had a rock pop out of the vise and cup pretty bad. I replaced it and was able to "beat" the cupped blade back to service. I just lost a segment in my other blade and for a couple bucks and a couple hours I am back in service. Yes HP has done some questionable things (stealing is never acceptable, especially since all they would have to do is to contact you and ask for permission to use your images, and knowing you, you would have let them), but they have shown the lapidary world that things can be done on the cheap. I shopped for years for a good used saw, and never came close to what they were offering. My purchase was smooth and pleasant and the saw arrived about a week before promised. I have talked to Sherman on the phone, and despite being a salesman, he was informative and intelligent. I appreciate the time you took on this video, and found it to be informative and worth the time. Thank you and keep cutting!
I think the time you spent on it was worth more than the cost of the blade. With that said, I have had good luck with mine. Maybe I should knock on some wood.
I know you said it's information only intended for yourself but if we reach out personally/email would you be willing to share manufacturers hardness of their matrix??
I agree with you, continuous sintered blades are the best, thought on that one is it is a cheap blade! Soft material. You were able to fix it because it is soft. A better quality continuous blade would not have done that, that one bent because of the segment design and softness. HP does need their hand slapped for taking your picture without consent, then to criticize it! I tend to stick with Diamond Pacific. Thanks for the video and glad that they did apologize.
It's not the best blade but I did like saving it and I learned something in the process. I would love to try some equipment from Diamond Pacific someday.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding If you ever come to Southern Cal you should visit it, they have a large back area that has rock samples that to my understanding has been there for some 50 years! I know you watch Lapidary Dave he has done a video there, if you haven't seen it you should check it out, its open to the public according to my understanding and they sell for 3 dollars a pound. I have not been there myself but plan on it, 2 hour drive for me. Anyway, I'm rambling, thanks for your reply I do appreciate it.
Stealing photos and making it appear as your own work is shameful. Stealing a photo and crediting the photo to the person who took the photo may be a little more acceptable but should be avoided. Asking permission to use someones photo with a credit is, and should be the standard. We often see "photo courtesy of..." Plain stealing someone else's work is bad practice and just plain lazy... Keep up the great work, Cheers!
If they would of just asked I would have said yes. I have gotten contacted lots of times from other people to use some of my video or photos and I will always say yes.
Highland Park rocks. Get over yourself. Probably not something intentional or malicious at all. Shame on you for taking a malicious bent without full knowledge or reaching out first.
Shame on you for not rubbing your two brain cells together long enough to understand the complexity here or to learn about all the shitty things Highland Park has done in the past and continues to do. I'll list some of them here for you and save you the effort, but keep in mind this list is just a few of the things. 1. How about sending out saws that leak and telling people to fix them with JB Weld. 2. How about taking other individual's intellectual property and selling it. 3. How about sending out countless machines with countless issues over the years and never resolving those issues. 4. How about how John and Sheman even got the name HP, they took it as the rights had expired and the current company has zero connect to the past company and they just ride the coat tails of the past. 5. All of their machines that I own and others I have used are very poorly designed and anyone who uses them would know this, a great example of this would be my WBS and the completely useless buffing wheel on it and the water system that needed upgrading out of the box. 6. They took my research into diamonds and diamond blades, used it without asking, and misrepresented what I said and my findings, I did point it out to them and all they did was take the video down, but after this, they apologized. So I guess bullying people into doing the right thing works. 7. I get emails from people seeking help with new HP machines every few weeks because the company has left them high and dry attempting to figure what is wrong with their new machine. 8. A friend of mine had their core drills come without the diamond bits brazed on and it took them forever to get a replacement from China 9. A friend of mine took the plunge on the 36" lap and they sent it with a warped tray and the replacement they sent was also warped. The facts are, HP is just a low to mid-quality company that makes everything in China as cheaply as possible. Maybe go get on some of the lapidary Facebook groups and you can also then read the countless posts from people with issues similar to what I said here. The only issue I see around here is their lack of quality control, lack of customer service and fanboys like you who think they can do no wrong... Rather pathetic if you ask me.
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UPDATE: The owner of Highland Park Lapidary did reach out to me and apologize.
This was an excellent video. You can't stop people from stealing, but you can out them. Goid job. Your fixing the blade was tedious but gratifying. It was a great job and only time will tell how long it will last. Your test jig was ingenious. Well done. Keep the goodness coming. Be happy, safe and stay healthy 😷⚒
That was super fascinating! I didnt even know the difference between those types of blades and to see you actually doing the repair on camera, was awesome. Its definitely something that i would not try to do at home, but you are not the average user either! Thank you for sharing that information. Your information stands up to any scrutiny. That was extremely helpful and informative. I learn so much from watching your videos. Any day i can learn something new, is a good day!
Well put.
Thank you, I don't even know if this is something I would really want to do again myself. It took so much time messing around with it off camera to get it right.
Glad you were able to get that blade repaired! Hopefully it lasts longer after you've worked on it. Loved the intro, as well. Hope the next blades don't last so little before they go too!
Jared thank you for passing on your insight. Because of your insight I am able to make better decisions as I navigate the lapidary world
Once again the Currently "Expanding The Knowledge Of Lapidary" Rockhounding Episode satisfies. #Exhaustive
Thank you!
Thanks!
Refreshing to view an Ethical person… educating the public…kudos
Oh my gosh! Thank you so much!
Very cool video. Actually love this one. Thank you Jared for being honest and giving true facts that are supported with proof!✌️🤠
I'm glad you liked it!
Great way to honestly work through being taken advantage of and being fair. You do an amazing job of taking what's handed you and making it work! Thanks again for another informative video, Jared!
This never happened to me(outright bending) but the old one did stall a couple of times. At that point it was well worn. Also I made pandora bracelet stones (quartz-mine, tiger eye-bought, fauxonyx-mine)
I had no idea you could replace those teeth - cool!
Thank you!
Hi Jared, well done. Some interesting info in the video. You are a “Rockhounding Nerd” and I mean that in a good way.
You don’t seem to accept normal convention and get into the detail of each subject. I for one thank you for the info you provide in your videos.
As a retiree who has only been in the hobby for about 4 years it is quite interesting to have your level of detail to view and gain a little education on various subjects you cover. 👍. Keep Safe & Keep Rockin.
Thank you very much! I just really enjoy sharing these kinds of things and I hope that other can learn about some of this stuff as I learn myself.
Great video and i admire your machinist skills. Im a retired Boeing electrical/electronic technician and have worked with some amazing machinists.They could engineer/fabricate precision products out of a rock. I relied on them so much for the projects i was involved in. Im not confident those skills exist up here in the PNW anymore. That’s nothing to do with Boeing’s problems today. Those have to do with outsourcing and the pressure to work faster and push out those planes.
I definitely have the skills to straighten metal but i did`nt know about the replacement diamond stick, so it shows your never too old to learn.
Even with the skills I thought it was a pain in the butt to do and I spent much time off camera messing around with it.
Wow, that's beyond my scope of being able to fix. Thanks for your recommendation for a good blade.
That was really interesting
Sort of the sort of thing my brother might tackle( bicycle fabricator)
Nice to watch your process and see it through to the end. I too didn’t put a lot of thought into how my blades were made. Thankyou for the in depth look at the various types and quality of the steel etc
I’m rambling….keep the blade rolling
Take care
I'm glad you liked it!
Bike building sounds really fun!
Awesome repair! 🛠👍
Thank you!
Wow that was too good
Wonderful product as always!
Thanks
As always, heading out but will catch up with the video when I return. Thanks for sharing sir, hope you have an awesome day!
I should start posting sooner so you can watch! :)
@@CurrentlyRockhounding Hahaha, no worries, gives me something to look forward to when I get back from that job. 😁 haha
Great topic. I really enjoy your blade series. I also really enjoy hearing your opinions. It great to hear from someone who doesn’t censor their opinions. From someone who knows how it feels when someone steals your pictures, it is very annoying. My product photos are all around the world, still in use today. Water under the bridge, right? 🤦♀️🤷♀️.
I never knew those type of segments were replaceable. I was today years old finding this out. lol. This is why I love your content. There is always something I am learning.
Thanks for all the work you put into your content. I really appreciate it.
Stay Crystal 💫
Mari
Yeah its a bummer really, you know if anyone wants to use my photos or video they can just ask and there is a 99% chance I will say yes and I have said yes to all the requests in the past.
Wow! Strong work Jared!!! I thought that blade was toasted for sure. Love the information on your channel it’s nice to hear opinions from someone who is both knowledgeable and unbiased. Maybe slightly biased but… with good reason! 😆👍🏼
Thanks man! Yeah now has a new life in my saw doing some testing.
I wonder if that was my post you saw in fb. The issue with highland park is the placement of the overload. If the saw motor trips the overload, it doesn’t stop the feed drive from running, which is what causes that blade breakage like that. I managed to repair my blade in a similar fashion, but I went a step further and built a control panel that eliminated that problem from ever happening again. Now if the motor overload trips for any reason, the feed also stops and everything is fine.
I didn't see your post but now I'm going to try and track it down. Thank you!
As usual, your subject is one I have dealt with before as well. I however was not as thorough as you were. My 12" blade was bent over quite badly. By placing it on a flat surface and hammering it out I was able to get it flat enough to continue using it. It is unfortunate what happened with HP. I've had better luck in my dealings with them. It would have been a better test if you had cut some Agate since it is an "Agate Eater" blade. I have one on my 18" saw. It is super noisy and super thick, so you loose a lot of material when cutting slabs. But it does work through most every material I've tossed at it. Still a nice video. Keep up the good work. I've injured myself, so not doing videos much right now.
Thank you! I have been continuing to run the blade since fixing it and I have cut up a bunch of different materials with it. It might be a cost effective blade but it does come at the cost of how much material you lose in the cut.
Nice work
Thank you.
Very good 👍 and informative, I like, as a retired fitter machinists your right on. With the dial indicator on the final testing it should be on bare metal as you will get some run out from the paint. You did a great job and, that, company should take note and apologise or give you credit, don't hold your breathe waiting . But keep up the good work and the informative vids. Stay safe and rock on 🤘 👍
Oh man this is like amateur hour shade tree machining here. I'm sure my el-cheap-o dial indicator has issues as well being that its like $20 and not a beautiful one from starrett.
OHH, Jared !!
I FEEL ya’ !! You can’t tolerate poor tolerances in metal !! You are a well tempered metal, yourownself!!!
You continue to amaze me with your abilities, and work ethics!
Thank you!
Solid video, thanks for the demonstration, and hurray for saving blades!
How does that flatness compare to a new blade on the truing rig? Would give you a good baseline.
If the spot was mangled beyond repair, you could potentially cut the bad area from the blade and leave a notch (as long as it's trued up). My club has an inch or two gap in a blade about that size and it's still cutting like a champ. Ours might be sintered, though.
I would love to try running a broken blade like that but I think would need to be sintered, this blade operates like a zipper so if its missing a tooth the other will all get loose in time.
Currently I don't have any new 14" blades to test but I hope to get another at some point in the future.
Great video! All the facts and figures, images and measurements, made for a very well put together story of a damaged saw blade and its repair. Is the use of segments in a blade rather than a continuous sintered blade a cost saving measure? What does it mean when you say a quality blade is tensioned? Thank you for another quality video.
So my understanding of a tensioned blade is that a manufacture will lightly stamp rings around the perimeter of the blade which will create tension in the steel and make it resist bending more than an un-tensioned blade. However at the end of the day you can pretty much bend all of them.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding Thanks!
Thanks for sharing this info, very interesting to see how they add the diamonds. Looking at how that blade is put together, from an engineering perspective, each slot that is filled with the diamond bar is a potential fail point. As well as the metal not being tempered, not sure if I would looking at those kinds of blades for my saws.
I agree with your assessment of it. It's like a zipper, its good until it gets stuck on your winter coat during the coldest day of the year.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding Not for this sun loving Aussie hahahahahahhaha
Excellent repair job sir! The start of my relationship with HP was not good. They called me a few hundred times, usually twice a day to try to sell me stuff. I don't think I will be purchasing anything from them.
So the lesson here is that they needed to call you three times a day? :D
@@CurrentlyRockhounding They really, really needed to talk to me 😜
👍👍👍👍👍👍🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝There are no words! Brought the disk back to life!
I think one major thing you forgot. YOU repaired it. A continuous rim blade with that much damage is probably trash. I have a HP 14" and use that exact blade. They are true work horses and sell for a price that is manageable for the hobbyist. I have 2 of them because I too, had a rock pop out of the vise and cup pretty bad. I replaced it and was able to "beat" the cupped blade back to service. I just lost a segment in my other blade and for a couple bucks and a couple hours I am back in service. Yes HP has done some questionable things (stealing is never acceptable, especially since all they would have to do is to contact you and ask for permission to use your images, and knowing you, you would have let them), but they have shown the lapidary world that things can be done on the cheap. I shopped for years for a good used saw, and never came close to what they were offering. My purchase was smooth and pleasant and the saw arrived about a week before promised. I have talked to Sherman on the phone, and despite being a salesman, he was informative and intelligent. I appreciate the time you took on this video, and found it to be informative and worth the time. Thank you and keep cutting!
I think the time you spent on it was worth more than the cost of the blade. With that said, I have had good luck with mine. Maybe I should knock on some wood.
I'm glad I saved it but still a bit of a pain. I don't think its a bad blade but I don't think its the best.
I know you said it's information only intended for yourself but if we reach out personally/email would you be willing to share manufacturers hardness of their matrix??
I do plan on making all of my findings public in the future, which will mostly likely be the fall as rockhounding season starts to draw closed.
I agree with you, continuous sintered blades are the best, thought on that one is it is a cheap blade! Soft material. You were able to fix it because it is soft. A better quality continuous blade would not have done that, that one bent because of the segment design and softness. HP does need their hand slapped for taking your picture without consent, then to criticize it! I tend to stick with Diamond Pacific. Thanks for the video and glad that they did apologize.
It's not the best blade but I did like saving it and I learned something in the process.
I would love to try some equipment from Diamond Pacific someday.
@@CurrentlyRockhounding If you ever come to Southern Cal you should visit it, they have a large back area that has rock samples that to my understanding has been there for some 50 years! I know you watch Lapidary Dave he has done a video there, if you haven't seen it you should check it out, its open to the public according to my understanding and they sell for 3 dollars a pound. I have not been there myself but plan on it, 2 hour drive for me. Anyway, I'm rambling, thanks for your reply I do appreciate it.
Stealing photos and making it appear as your own work is shameful. Stealing a photo and crediting the photo to the person who took the photo may be a little more acceptable but should be avoided. Asking permission to use someones photo with a credit is, and should be the standard. We often see "photo courtesy of..." Plain stealing someone else's work is bad practice and just plain lazy... Keep up the great work, Cheers!
If they would of just asked I would have said yes. I have gotten contacted lots of times from other people to use some of my video or photos and I will always say yes.
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looks like the Agate Ate the blade🤣😂 😅
Ha!
Highland Park rocks. Get over yourself. Probably not something intentional or malicious at all. Shame on you for taking a malicious bent without full knowledge or reaching out first.
Shame on you for not rubbing your two brain cells together long enough to understand the complexity here or to learn about all the shitty things Highland Park has done in the past and continues to do.
I'll list some of them here for you and save you the effort, but keep in mind this list is just a few of the things.
1. How about sending out saws that leak and telling people to fix them with JB Weld.
2. How about taking other individual's intellectual property and selling it.
3. How about sending out countless machines with countless issues over the years and never resolving those issues.
4. How about how John and Sheman even got the name HP, they took it as the rights had expired and the current company has zero connect to the past company and they just ride the coat tails of the past.
5. All of their machines that I own and others I have used are very poorly designed and anyone who uses them would know this, a great example of this would be my WBS and the completely useless buffing wheel on it and the water system that needed upgrading out of the box.
6. They took my research into diamonds and diamond blades, used it without asking, and misrepresented what I said and my findings, I did point it out to them and all they did was take the video down, but after this, they apologized. So I guess bullying people into doing the right thing works.
7. I get emails from people seeking help with new HP machines every few weeks because the company has left them high and dry attempting to figure what is wrong with their new machine.
8. A friend of mine had their core drills come without the diamond bits brazed on and it took them forever to get a replacement from China
9. A friend of mine took the plunge on the 36" lap and they sent it with a warped tray and the replacement they sent was also warped.
The facts are, HP is just a low to mid-quality company that makes everything in China as cheaply as possible.
Maybe go get on some of the lapidary Facebook groups and you can also then read the countless posts from people with issues similar to what I said here.
The only issue I see around here is their lack of quality control, lack of customer service and fanboys like you who think they can do no wrong... Rather pathetic if you ask me.
Nice work
Thank you!