I am new to veneering. Did you use paperback veneer or raw wood veneers for this project? Originally, I was thinking of making this with solid wood and inlays. Do you think that will work? Would wood movement be an issue with that approach? Thanks.
Love this build. I cannot believe that I’ve been watching woodworking TH-cam videos for over 4 years and no one made a backgammon board before now. Anyone who comes after has a high bar to clear!!
excellent, I'm now subscribed. love the way you have played out the timeline for the video as well so I can skip to the bits I want to see again (in this case all of it !)
Thanks so much for watching and commenting! I love playing backgammon and I play it all the time! I'm definitely better at woodworking than backgammon though 😇
It is my first comment on TH-cam. I can’t thank you enough for making these Videos. When you put a video out it MAKES my day. I mean it really, thank you.
Thank you so much Behzad! Sometimes it is difficult to keep making videos when they don't get very many views, but comments like these keep me going. Have a wonderful day!
Beautiful board~! As mentioned below, this is the first backgammon board I've seen anyone build on TH-cam. Adding this to my list of things to do. Thanks for the video~!
Stunning build, David. Love the piece holder with magnets holding it in place. When gluing veneer (don't do much) I use either parchment paper or wax paper or packing tape as a barrier between pieces. Have you ever had a problem with glue sticking to the melamine? That looks like a nice solution.
Thank you so much Don! In general I've never had a problem with glue sticking to melamine, I've found it to be a good gluing surface. However if parchment/wax paper is working for you, there's no reason to fix something that isn't broken!
Cracking build you made it look so easy! The question is can you play backgammon or was this build for someone who does know how to play!. As always buddy 💯% 👍 🇬🇧.
Very nice work and incredible looking final piece! Just a note, I've heard you shouldn't use TiteBond III with Walnut. I don't know why, but I am considering changing after some research. I just thought I would let you know. Keep up the great work!
Thanks Rj! I'm surprised about TB3 with walnut. I've built many pieces of solid walnut furniture exclusively with TB3 over the past 3-5 years and have had zero issues. TB3 is my favorite!
@@dkbuilds same. Maybe/hopefully it's just internet bs. I've got a lot of end grain walnut cutting boards out there. i'd hate to hear if they are coming apart but so far so good. I've done some research as well and can't really find anything so I'm sticking with it. The only reason I mentioned it is because I heard of the issue on a reputable woodworking vlog.
So my only fear is that I wouldn't know which side was the top or bottom and I'd open things up to have the pieces spill everywhere. That said, I'm guessing the bottom didn't get that walnut burl veneer, correct? I even watched a 2nd time to see if you ever showed the bottom, but I couldn't spot it. Beautiful work as usual. You are inspiring me to give a shot to a hand tool only build. My daughter's been wanting a tic-tac-toe board, and I'm thinking it could time to improve my hand tool work. We'll see though. I might still do the resawing on the bandsaw. 😂
That's a fantastic point Matt! That was my #1 struggle when designing this. Ultimately I'm fine with it because if you open it up the wrong way, all the pieces spill out onto the board (e.g. not onto the ground or something), and you're about to set up to play a game of backgammon with the pieces anyway, so it's not really that terrible. Still, I wish I had a better solution. There is burl on both sides so the case is very symmetrical when closed, so it is difficult to tell which way is up. And, awesome! Let me know how your build turns out! To be honest, even when I'm trying to mostly use hand tools, I still use a band saw for resawing 😅
The work is very good, but the contrast darker wood with the game trapezius cheats my eyes when seeing the end result. Beside that everything is great.
My dad and I love playing backgammon. However the board he got decades started to get moldy (due to monsoon/high humidity) some months ago and we decided we should try to make a simple one. However I have no woodworking experience and my fathers plan was to use plywood with veneer. Would you have any advice for a complete novice, what can I do to try and make a simple board. Edit: oh and even though I just jumped into my question, I hope you know I love your board it looks amazing
Thanks for watching and commenting, kik! A backgammon board is a fairly complicated project for a first woodworking build, but you can do it! I would recommend buying some cheap veneer and experiment with cutting and gluing it like I do in this video. Other methods are (in my opinion) more complicated. It may be possible to buy the triangle template (for example made of metal) which will be a big head start on the process. Good luck on your build!
@@dkbuilds Thanks very much for your help. It was a great project and turned out pretty well in the end, though not as perfect as yours! Love your channel, keep up the great content! i.postimg.cc/7LqKDccj/IMG-8933.jpg and i.postimg.cc/Kz8kZrmZ/IMG-8941.jpg
Thanks John! Unfortunately I don't have the case dimensions. I do have the dimensions of the board itself (the size of triangles etc). Would that be useful for you? Send me an email at dkbuildswoodworking@gmail.com and I can share those
I was going to ask if anyone has ever told you that you look like Volodymyr Zelensky but I see at least one other person beat me to the punch. LOL Serious question though, do you undercut your dados and then use the router plane (not only to clean up saw marks but) to get to final depth?
LOL yeah I actually get that all the time now! And yup that's exactly what I do with the router plane. To be honest it's mostly because my table saw blade is a combination blade which does not leave a flat surface (the teeth leave a groove like |\/|), so I use the plane to flatten out the bottom of the grooves.
@@dkbuilds good result with your followers... I have decided to create a logo and have a website I'm still working on. I don't know if I'll be on yt... Too much work and patience... And my shop looks awful...
You know I hate to be a pedant, but a backgammon set should have four ordinary dice and two tumblers for them to be thrown from. The only reason I mention this is that it would (wood) be amazing if you could show us how to make these too. Please. Fantastic work otherwise.
Thanks for the feedback Tim! The dice set I actually bought for this does include four dice and a doubling die, but I don't show them in the video. It is true that I didn't make any tumblers though... I'll consider that for a future video. Thanks for watching!
Great question! That is called a shooting board, and the purpose there is to make one side of the triangle perfectly straight, and also to make the side of the triangle perfectly perpendicular to the face of the triangle.
@@dkbuilds thank you for responding! I am definitely slow since this would be my second project with wood that I would do under an instructor. I’m planning on making one for my senior project but sadly the whole project (write up and building and planning included) must take 60 hours so maybe I can put some special Armenian designs in haha.
@@Shadowbeast-ww7hi Special designs are a great idea! And, I could see this taking 60 hours. For example you will probably want to do some separate practice with inlays before building the actual thing, making protyptes, etc.
@@Philipbangm Unfortunately I don't remember those dimensions, after building this I gave it away as a gift so I can't measure it again. Sorry about that! Hopefully you can guess from the video.
I don't like heavily figured timber. I don't like backgammon. I do, however, like hand-tool woodwork, and videos without inane commentary, so I watched this through to the end. You might consider a quick touch of wax on your dovetail saw, and I was disappointed to see the table saw used for something easily done with hand tools, but nonetheless, this was a nice project, and a nice video.
I am alway suspect when shops are all clean and neat. This is far from inpressive. Our society in some respects so worried about proper and neat and what have we got chaos. go tol Rob Cossman or Sellars and see what their shops look like and then come back and talk to me. RC
Thanks for watching! What did you think of this video? If you liked it, please consider subscribing to my channel!
Nice video, awesome build, but could you add subtitles?
@@Srv02 Explaining what is going on?
@@dkbuilds Just as translation for us non native speakers. j/k Keep up the good work and your style!
@@Srv02 LOL got it thanks Srv!!
I am new to veneering. Did you use paperback veneer or raw wood veneers for this project?
Originally, I was thinking of making this with solid wood and inlays. Do you think that will work? Would wood movement be an issue with that approach?
Thanks.
If you ever considered teaching a class on how to make your own backgammon set, I would definitely sign up
I hadn’t considered that. Maybe one day I’ll put a course together (or at least draw up plans). Thanks for the idea Christos!
I am really enjoying watching this video. Thanks for your time.
Thanks for taking the time to comment, John! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Awesome work
Thanks so much Pedro!
Love this build. I cannot believe that I’ve been watching woodworking TH-cam videos for over 4 years and no one made a backgammon board before now. Anyone who comes after has a high bar to clear!!
Thanks so much Robert!!
excellent, I'm now subscribed. love the way you have played out the timeline for the video as well so I can skip to the bits I want to see again (in this case all of it !)
Thank you so much Stuart, welcome to my channel! I'm glad you liked the video format. I'll be sure to make more like this one!
Beautiful work, chap.
Thank you Myrks!
Making it whole and then cutting the 2 sides guarantees they are identical. Nice build. Love the Walnut Burl.
Great tip! I wanted to use veneers on this one but your method would be way faster if someone were making many boards at once!
Simple and beautiful, congratulations
Thanks so much Marcelo!
Superb work.
Thank you!
Very satisfying watching your video, mate 👍 thanks.
I imagine you don't play the game with the same passion
Thanks so much for watching and commenting! I love playing backgammon and I play it all the time! I'm definitely better at woodworking than backgammon though 😇
Excellent use of veneer. Not many use it today.
Thanks John! I'm glad you appreciate it!
Congratulations, I cut the molds for the beaks with laser in metal and they are also very exact, Good idea of the magnets
That’s a great idea Pedro! Then the molds will last forever too. Over time my wooden ones wear down. Thanks for sharing!
Great video, thanks. What a super gift for your friend.
Thanks for the kind words Nick! He loved the gift!
Most satisfying video I've ever seen. Real masterpiece! Great work. Subscribed!
Thank you so much Camilo and thank you for subscribing!!
Beautifully made
Thanks so much for the kind words treetop! Glad you liked it!
It is my first comment on TH-cam. I can’t thank you enough for making these Videos. When you put a video out it MAKES my day. I mean it really, thank you.
Thank you so much Behzad! Sometimes it is difficult to keep making videos when they don't get very many views, but comments like these keep me going. Have a wonderful day!
As a cabinetmaker, it is really nice to see people doing veneer. Nice job, and beautiful result !
greetings from france !
Thanks so much Soni! Greetings from the US!
A backgammon board has been on my to-do list of things to make. There arent any good videos of it on TH-cam. You beat me to it! Amazing work!
Awesome! Thanks Ryder, let me know how yours turns out!
Beautiful looking box. 👍👍
Thanks Andy!!
Your work is beautiful
Thank you, Kevin!
Excellent - thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching Frank!
Nice work.
Thank you Vincent!
Amazing. The process is just as beautiful as the end result. 👍
Thank you so much for the kind words Jeremi!
Simply lovely. Great skill
Thanks Gerald I appreciate it!
Beautiful board~! As mentioned below, this is the first backgammon board I've seen anyone build on TH-cam. Adding this to my list of things to do. Thanks for the video~!
Awesome!! Thanks Andrew! Let me know how your board turns out when you build it!
Beautiful, dude! Really amazing work! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thank you MC, I always appreciate your well wishes!
Great job!! Nice!!!
Thanks so much Haroldo!
Beautiful, and a nice relaxing way to start my day...
Thanks Sherrie I'm glad you liked it! Enjoy your day!
Another awesome build, sir. Beautiful piece. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting MM!
9:36 I didn't expect that Zelenski had time to do woodworking now!
Jokes aside it is a nice work and amazing workmanship.
Lol thank you Alfastur!!
I've made a few sets but yours is higher in quality. Maybe one day I'll get to use vaneer and make something just as nice.
Great job.
Awesome, thank you for the kind words Ace!
Such a beautiful build!
Thank you ckbakes! I love your channel!
Bravo!
Thank you Sergey!
Very nice
Thanks so much Vern!
Long time subscriber love your channel, thanks for the awesome project.
Thanks so much Scott! I'm glad to have you as a subscriber!
I like Rob Cosman too
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Love the build! Really like the style and presentation of video. Perfect combo of power tools and hand tools
Thank you so much Devos! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Watching your work is amazing you make woodworking look like an art form 🙌
Awesome content
Thank you so much Lee! That's the highest compliment I can imagine receiving!
@@dkbuilds credit where credits due 👍
Super!
Thanks so much!
Awesome
Thanks so much!
wow tnxxxx
Thank you for watching Farzad!
Stunning build, David. Love the piece holder with magnets holding it in place. When gluing veneer (don't do much) I use either parchment paper or wax paper or packing tape as a barrier between pieces. Have you ever had a problem with glue sticking to the melamine? That looks like a nice solution.
Thank you so much Don! In general I've never had a problem with glue sticking to melamine, I've found it to be a good gluing surface. However if parchment/wax paper is working for you, there's no reason to fix something that isn't broken!
This is great! Thanks. So relaxing to watch. Do you have the measurements for the board?
Thanks! I don't have dimensions for the case, but each board panel is 8" wide by 13" long, triangles are 5" tall and 1.3" wide. Hope that helps!
Cracking build you made it look so easy!
The question is can you play backgammon or was this build for someone who does know how to play!.
As always buddy 💯% 👍 🇬🇧.
Thank you Simon! This build was for someone else, but I personally do play. Backgammon is a great game!
Glue to one surface, accrelator to the other surface my friend. When they come together they do the magic. Regards. 13:10
Thanks for the tip Mucahit!
Very nice work and incredible looking final piece! Just a note, I've heard you shouldn't use TiteBond III with Walnut. I don't know why, but I am considering changing after some research. I just thought I would let you know. Keep up the great work!
Thanks Rj! I'm surprised about TB3 with walnut. I've built many pieces of solid walnut furniture exclusively with TB3 over the past 3-5 years and have had zero issues. TB3 is my favorite!
@@dkbuilds same. Maybe/hopefully it's just internet bs. I've got a lot of end grain walnut cutting boards out there. i'd hate to hear if they are coming apart but so far so good. I've done some research as well and can't really find anything so I'm sticking with it. The only reason I mentioned it is because I heard of the issue on a reputable woodworking vlog.
So my only fear is that I wouldn't know which side was the top or bottom and I'd open things up to have the pieces spill everywhere. That said, I'm guessing the bottom didn't get that walnut burl veneer, correct? I even watched a 2nd time to see if you ever showed the bottom, but I couldn't spot it.
Beautiful work as usual. You are inspiring me to give a shot to a hand tool only build. My daughter's been wanting a tic-tac-toe board, and I'm thinking it could time to improve my hand tool work. We'll see though. I might still do the resawing on the bandsaw. 😂
That's a fantastic point Matt! That was my #1 struggle when designing this. Ultimately I'm fine with it because if you open it up the wrong way, all the pieces spill out onto the board (e.g. not onto the ground or something), and you're about to set up to play a game of backgammon with the pieces anyway, so it's not really that terrible. Still, I wish I had a better solution.
There is burl on both sides so the case is very symmetrical when closed, so it is difficult to tell which way is up.
And, awesome! Let me know how your build turns out! To be honest, even when I'm trying to mostly use hand tools, I still use a band saw for resawing 😅
The work is very good,
but the contrast darker wood with the game trapezius cheats my eyes when seeing the end result.
Beside that everything is great.
Thanks for the feedback Fabio! Yeah it is a very high contrast board. Maybe next time I will use more similar woods to make it easier on the eyes.
My dad and I love playing backgammon. However the board he got decades started to get moldy (due to monsoon/high humidity) some months ago and we decided we should try to make a simple one. However I have no woodworking experience and my fathers plan was to use plywood with veneer. Would you have any advice for a complete novice, what can I do to try and make a simple board.
Edit: oh and even though I just jumped into my question, I hope you know I love your board it looks amazing
Thanks for watching and commenting, kik! A backgammon board is a fairly complicated project for a first woodworking build, but you can do it! I would recommend buying some cheap veneer and experiment with cutting and gluing it like I do in this video. Other methods are (in my opinion) more complicated. It may be possible to buy the triangle template (for example made of metal) which will be a big head start on the process. Good luck on your build!
That’s the most beautiful backgammon board I’ve seen. I really like that mini router plane. Can you tell me where you got it?
Thank you so much Terri! Sure, it is the small router plane from Lie Nielsen. www.lie-nielsen.com/products/small-router-plane
An interesting way to achieve a large number of pounds per square inch!
Hehe thanks!
Fantastic video!
Am going to make one myself, and was wondering what thickness your MDF was, please?
Keep up the great videos!
Thanks!! It’s 1/4” MDF. Let me know how yours turns out!
@@dkbuilds Thanks very much for your help. It was a great project and turned out pretty well in the end, though not as perfect as yours!
Love your channel, keep up the great content!
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@@isaacscrimgeour979 Wow Isaac that looks stunning! Fantastic job!!
That’s perfect technique beautifully done and will last can I ask what size thickness did you use for the mdf piece?
Thank you for the kind words Karim! The mdf is 1/4" thick.
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Hi … are you able to provide the dimensions for the case please? Great job and very informative video…thank you
Thanks John! Unfortunately I don't have the case dimensions. I do have the dimensions of the board itself (the size of triangles etc). Would that be useful for you? Send me an email at dkbuildswoodworking@gmail.com and I can share those
I was going to ask if anyone has ever told you that you look like Volodymyr Zelensky but I see at least one other person beat me to the punch. LOL Serious question though, do you undercut your dados and then use the router plane (not only to clean up saw marks but) to get to final depth?
LOL yeah I actually get that all the time now! And yup that's exactly what I do with the router plane. To be honest it's mostly because my table saw blade is a combination blade which does not leave a flat surface (the teeth leave a groove like |\/|), so I use the plane to flatten out the bottom of the grooves.
Bravo, like always! How long have you been woodworking, since when are you on yt and how many videos have you posted more or less so far? Cheers
Thanks so much Duke! I've been woodworking and have been on TH-cam for 4 or 5 years so far, with 60 videos posted!
@@dkbuilds good result with your followers... I have decided to create a logo and have a website I'm still working on. I don't know if I'll be on yt... Too much work and patience... And my shop looks awful...
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Hi lovely build as always do you sell plans
Thanks John! Unfortunately I don't have full plans for this, but here are the dimensions for the board panels: imgur.com/a/3juaGyT
@dk builds thats great many thanks
Great video! Do you sell these backgammon boards ?
Thanks! Unfortunately I only made this one ☹️
@@dkbuilds well it’s a very nice one great piece of art, keep it up 👍:)
You know I hate to be a pedant, but a backgammon set should have four ordinary dice and two tumblers for them to be thrown from. The only reason I mention this is that it would (wood) be amazing if you could show us how to make these too. Please. Fantastic work otherwise.
Thanks for the feedback Tim! The dice set I actually bought for this does include four dice and a doubling die, but I don't show them in the video. It is true that I didn't make any tumblers though... I'll consider that for a future video. Thanks for watching!
Hi, what’s the purpose of what you did at 0:55? I’m very new to woodcraft and learning it.
Great question! That is called a shooting board, and the purpose there is to make one side of the triangle perfectly straight, and also to make the side of the triangle perfectly perpendicular to the face of the triangle.
@@dkbuilds Thank you!
I'm considering making a board for myself, may I ask how many hours this took you? it is a really nice board
Good question! I would estimate the entire build would take me two full days (16 hours) if I weren't filming. But, I'm definitely slower than average!
@@dkbuilds thank you for responding! I am definitely slow since this would be my second project with wood that I would do under an instructor. I’m planning on making one for my senior project but sadly the whole project (write up and building and planning included) must take 60 hours so maybe I can put some special Armenian designs in haha.
@@Shadowbeast-ww7hi Special designs are a great idea! And, I could see this taking 60 hours. For example you will probably want to do some separate practice with inlays before building the actual thing, making protyptes, etc.
@@dkbuilds Yes for sure! Thank you so much for the help bro!
What’s the measurements on the board that you put the triangles in
The board is 8" by 13", six triangles on each 8" long side, the triangles are 1.3" wide at the bottom and 5" long. Hope that helps!
@@dkbuildsthanks for answering one more question about the side panels that you use when you glue it all together what are the dimensions on them
@@Philipbangm Unfortunately I don't remember those dimensions, after building this I gave it away as a gift so I can't measure it again. Sorry about that! Hopefully you can guess from the video.
What is the tool you are using at 12:50 called?
That is called a router plane, in this case it is this one specifically: www.lie-nielsen.com/products/small-router-plane
I don't like heavily figured timber. I don't like backgammon. I do, however, like hand-tool woodwork, and videos without inane commentary, so I watched this through to the end. You might consider a quick touch of wax on your dovetail saw, and I was disappointed to see the table saw used for something easily done with hand tools, but nonetheless, this was a nice project, and a nice video.
That's great, Mike! I'm glad you watched. Good call about wax, and I agree about the table saw. I would have preferred all hand tools myself!
good job but handtools?
Thanks! What do you mean?
Me again, what was the diameter of your game pieces? Thanks.
1" diameter, 1/4" thick. Specifically these: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003D27X0W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Hope that helps!
@@dkbuilds thank you.
Could you build me one just like that?
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Use your words
Nah
I am alway suspect when shops are all clean and neat. This is far from inpressive. Our society in some respects so worried about proper and neat and what have we got chaos. go tol Rob Cossman or Sellars and see what their shops look like and then come back and talk to me. RC
What?
Very nice
Thanks Ruben!