I feel he is at the top of his game for 2 reasons. He approaches all his jobs with common sense and he is willing to put in the work and not leave till it’s fixed! He actually has the customer at heart and would never leave them cold and stranded. Definitely a role model in the field!
Knowing the sequence of operation is key to understanding what it supposed to be doing, and check what’s falling. Great video good to see you working hard after your nineteens. You are a great tech, thanks for your video.
Sequence of operations is the first principle they taught us in class. Without knowing it, we are next to useless. Every ice machine is different. Furnaces are all the same aside from certain system pre-checks.
Suzy B Invents Pretty Interesting Good Fishing Books Signal from thermostat Board self test Inducer blower start Pressure switch confirms blower Ignition Gas valve opens Flame sensed Blower for house starts
Nice diagnostic Steve ! ... I had the controller go out on an older 1995 Lenox the day I put my mothers house on the market ... I'm a carpenter/builder, but have a little experience with gas units having worked with a lot of top notch HVAC guys for 3-4 decades, a little research showed a common problem with the Johnson controller they used ... cracked circuit boards were an issue, but an updated one was available online, came in 2 days ... mostly "plug and play" except for thermostat, AC and humidifier wires ... took 15 minutes to install .... ran like a top for 4 months until the buyer/builder knocked the house down to build a McMansion .... and I agree, so glad you mentioned the FILTER ISSUE .... I've never run anything greater than a MERV 4 on my units (but do use a filter charger spray) ... furnaces are not designed to be "air purifiers" ... those "allergen" filters restrict air flow too much causing all sorts of high limit issues ... overheating, cycling, fan motor and other parts burn out ... and of course, very inefficient air circulation .... I use the cheap green filters on the returns as "pre-filters" because I have large, hairy dogs ... and a MERV 4 at the furnace .... I buy a 6 pack and change every 2 months ... 6 year old propane unit in a 150 year old house and my returns, ducts and furnace are spotless ... in a pinch you can spray "Endust" instead of "charger" lightly on any filter to increase capture without slowing down air movement ... hope that helps some viewers as having a "balanced" and efficient system with the right filters saves you a ton on fuel costs and reduces wear on a constantly cycling unit
I can remember back when once I rushed to blame the pressure switch and spent 2 hours fooling around without fixing anything. That was before I found Steve's videos. Now I'm watching this, calling out the board. That's a great feeling. Really grateful for these videos, which are clear, No-Nonsense, and easy to learn from.
@@murkyturkey5238 i was talking about a long time ago, when I didn't have much experience. Blaming the pressure switch or some other component that very rarely fails is something that people with less experience tend to do. I recently had a no heat call and the owner told me it needed a new gas valve after he already replaced the transformer and a few other small things. It was not the gas valve, it was the thermostat. But when you don't have a bunch of past experiences to rely on, and not enough knowledge to logically diagnose, then you will jump to conclusions.
@@murkyturkey5238 but why blame the pressure switch? Maybe because the board was giving him an error code saying something along the lines of the pressure switch isn't working or something. If the pressure switch isn't working, it could be bad, but you have to test it first, and really you need the inducer to turn on too, and if it doesn't turn on then that probably means the problem isn't the switch, it is the inducer or it is the thing that is supposed to be powering the inducer. But the handyman in this video was maybe strictly reading the error code off the furnace. Another thing that leads people jump to conclusions.
The soldered pins on the female part of the 9 pin molex plug on the board sometimes get a hairline crack due to blower vibration over time. It will throw codes depending on which pin is making intermittent contact. If you take the board off and pinch the pins a bit on the back where they are soldered with needle nose pliers, you can sometimes get it to run temporarily until a replacement can be installed. I run into this all the time. As soon as it threw the air proving switch code upon a call for heat, I knew the board needed to be replaced. If you have trouble getting a board, you could try resoldering the pins on the old board to buy them some time as well (if you have a soldering kit on hand).
@@skliros9235 because I will warranty a new board but not guarantee them a solder job will last. (We used to solder them in the past) I have had a couple customers actually solder their own boards and I reinstalled them.
Good job! Maybe we should educate customers to buy air filters based on MERV rating instead of fancy advertising. Not all filters are compatible with all equipment👍
And sometimes it isn't the filter at all. There are several things that need to be tested and/or adjusted before just assuming the filter is the problem.
You did the right thing by this lady. Being a super hero for people who need it, there’s nothing better. You should be proud of yourself and your great work ethic. I really enjoy your channel. Keep the great videos coming. Thanks Steve. 👍🏻😊🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 Your a great American
Some notes for you guys just starting out... 1) The flash code only indicates which device is being checked. It does not tell you if that device is doing what it is supposed to do. In this case, because the inducer was not running, the switch SHOULD be open. Your dead giveaway is that the inducer did not come on. 2) Confirm that you have 24v on W1. Don't assume the stat is working or that the wiring is good. Confirm that 24v call is coming from the stat to the board's C and W1 terminals. 3) Confirm the 120v going to the inducer. While it is unlikely that the inducer is bad, if I have to drive an hour to get a board, I will put 120v on that inducer before I leave to make sure it is good, so I don't get stung when I come back with a board and find that I need an inducer as well. 4) Don't curse in front of customers. It makes you sound unprofessional. 5) Don't throw the industry under the bus with residential customers. Just say, "now you know you can call me next time." Steve knows a lot of stuff and you can learn from him. I'm just adding some tips for you until I get my channel up and running. See you then.
@@leedrummond164 If I cursed in front of a store manager, that is probably the last time I would have that client. They would be on the phone to the provider in a heartbeat, because everyone is hyper-woke nowadays. Since I stopped cursing back in the 90's, it is no longer going to happen, and like Eric O says, "If I can do it, you can do it." For those guys who have ever been in an arraignment situation, just act like you are talking to a judge. You wouldn't say, for example, "your honor, he tried to f*** me over!" Generally, that only makes things worse, both in court and in business. Similarly, if the client curses, don't tell him to stop. You are there as a neutral party to fix their problem. At one point in my life, I worked in a cursing subculture. There are lots of them out there. But, you are not on a construction site with an HVAC customer, so you always need to spruce up your game. You never know who you are talking to, so always tread lightly. Just another 2 cents.
@@arthouston7361 I agree with everything you say. I don't think it's ever professional to be swearing in front of your clients, however most clients will be willing to put up with a bit of swearing if they feel in safe hands with the engineer. And obviously if the works good the client isn't going to chance using somebody else over a sh** here and there. But all told. No, not professional.
@@leedrummond164 In my segment, the person who hears me reports to the decision making entities, ei, the service brokerage and the corporate. They do not make the value proposition judgement that you are describing. They will send in another company right away. They don't even have a good metric for comparing companies, because they have one alleged pro working for them called a "trade specialist," who often came from a different industry segment, and has never worked on the kind of equipment being serviced. He only becomes involved in rare circumstances like the wrong piping design being used for a low pressure gas roof, and no one was tasked with checking out that level of detail during the install.
Different people troubleshoot differently, the first guy that couldn’t figure it out shouldn’t be running a service van, and this guy done it different than I would of. It same outcome good job
Don't think it's the filter after hearing to set the temperature to 65 I'll bet they also shut down some of the registers thinking it would save money ... restricted air flow will cause high a temperature cut off.... great job on the control panel replacement assessment....
I ran in a similar call last week , on a trane system , replace the control board then it work ... But good job I enjoy and learn yours videos... To thanks ...
Nice job Steve, I’ve changed out some similar controls, it gets tedious but as you did “ one wire at a time” . As you know everybody doesn’t have the $$$ to replace equipment.
I guess the reason for using cheaper filters are because the more premium product has a higher filter rating but too much air flow restriction to the point where the furnace can't function correctly.
people just don't understand how much these professionals are ripping them off they will give you a discounted inspection for your furnace for $60 and then find every reason in the world to keep charging you and charging you for this or charging over that if people would just get up off their butt and try to learn something they would understand just how simple simple it is to repair furnaces.. a capacitor is generally a blower problem flame sensors igniters 20 bucks almost no problem to install these furnace dealers around me wanted $450 to put a condenser motor in I did it myself from now on I do everything myself even if I screw it up two or three times I'm still buddy ahead and I've learned something thanks for your video
Usually the condenser motors goes out when it comes to motors ,the flame sensor is a good one to check ,first I check thermostat never trust what they tell you, I look at it then ask did you just change the batteries? If they say yes then they put in wrong had it happen on a rental he was positive it was right I made him check using facetime yep wrong saved me 100$
This video is a great example of why I still use a mid-efficiency furnace that was installed in 1986. The only issue I've had in 29 years is the blower motor crapping out last winter. Took one day to find a replacement. Took 2 days for the original to be repaired. I kept the (repaired) original motor as my spare.
I had a problem similar to this on the high limit They just bought a leather couch and they pushed it up against the return air grill The customer was not happy after I charged them $140 to move the couch Great video everyone should not be having filters Beyond merve 8
I'm surprised so many techs don't bust out the multimeter. Pretty simple, really. Controller / sequencer receives 24v here, send 120 or 240v there. I could teach my 12 year old son how to diagnose an electric furnace in a month or two. Maybe it's because companies only want to hire readymade techs instead of helpers with potential. Techs have to pretend to understand more than they do to get a job.
@@AiMR That's what the guy just did in the video. Replaced the board. Sometime the problem is just because of a fuse. I'm not professional. Base on the look of the old board didn't have any visible fuse. But I can see that board has cover. If a good and want to save customer money not their time. Would attempt to open the cover and look inside. Unless, he has open the board before in his past experience. Then I guess sure. But a system has high and low voltage don't have a fuse would be rare. However, base on the video. 1. he bad mouth the previous tech first. Yes the previous tech should have more knowledge, but he did replace what the board asked for. I'm okay if this guy bad mouth when he actually test the old pressure switch, just a simple blow into it with continuity or put it back in but did not do it. Yes sadly most tech try to work fast try to save time. Walk to the furnace, touch wires, visual inspection. Jump to the part. Instead, if you check voltage, why not from the source. Sometime go with the sequel cut time. Rather than jump all over the place and guessing. Just wonder, super rare chance but. That wire from the board to the motor is bad. A simple continuity test before calling the board is bad would end the guessing game.
I feel like most techs can’t really confirm if it's a bad control board. They order one, replace it, and hope it fixes the damn issue. Thanks for the video.
You have to explain things better Stevie, you should say that the furnace has too hard a time sucking air thru the expensive filters, it's easier to suck air thru cheap filters and so it's easier on the furnace
I have ran across fellow techs that can't fix things, and carefully probing they didn't see it in school. Amazing how some don't know ductwork either. The best way to save time is eliminate stat IMO by jumpers w/ meter. It also speeds up transformer culprit diag.. Love watching the Master!
I was in the same neighborhood doing a repair ! I had no idea that Steve Lavimoniere lives in the area ? I love this channel and Steve and his Dog ( security dog to protect the Van and tools ) !
Steve, you need an apprentice. Someone to assist you, but more important someone to pass your knowledge on to. I wish I could have worked with someone like you when I was younger.
Steve as a young electrician only in the trade ten years I love your videos. Your a dying breed. I wish more people my age had your work ethic. I'm only 28 but I fear where we are heading.
Dan I completely agree with you spot on man. I'm your age and in the heavy equipment repair and mechanic field. Same exact problem.. no one younger wants to work. The best thing we can do is try and absorb as much as we can from guys like Steve, be thankful they are willing to share all these things that they have learned the hard way. I don't know what the hell the world is going to look like when all these guys are retired and there's going to be a handful of us trying to carry all the other lazy morons that don't wanna be in a trade and want to sit on a computer and have stupid titles like "social media influencer ".
@@Adam_Poirier When there's a shortage of trades people and an abundance of young folk without tools or gumption, I know where I'll be. In a van making bank!
There is a huge movement out there to teach young techs. Search for TY Branaman on TH-cam, he has great videos. Try HVAC school with Bryan orr, also great videos. There is a ton out there. I have been in the trade for 15 years and try to teach my apprentices the good old way of diagnosing a system.
had someone come by and do a diagnostic on the heating system before I needed it. When I did need it the small purge fan didn't run, he had left the ground wire off the cover and the circuit board. Luckily I was well versed in looking for out of the ordinary while working my job. Don't get anyone to check your heating and cooling unless you are having problems.
Troubleshooting 101 follow the wiring diagram and if there is not one due to age follow the wiring to each component. Higher voltage to lower voltage components . If there is a circuit board or control module present there will be power in and power out. 32 years I spent in the hvac trade and now retired. I miss the challenge of fixing the unfixable.
jwar, I worked 46 years in the Elevator trade. Because I knew Nothing about it. I took a 3 year A/C Heat course at night thru local Adult Ed. Program. Taught Electronics and troubleshooting at Union School. Worked for various shops as a troubleshooter, made over scale for 25 years. I fixed the building engineers Hvac equipment. when they couldn't. This makes my head hurt.
The gas valve went out in my boiler and Honeywell didn't make it anymore so I bought a Robert Shaw with the same BTU rating a couple little tweaks and it's worked fine for 5 years. But sometimes I worry about my boiler because it's around 80 years old.
Ugh... those kinds of jobs are tedious! I would have been inclined to screw a piece of sheet metal to the furnace, where the old control was, that hung out to the left a couple inches and then attached the new control to that new piece of sheet metal. No need to splice wires...
If I was guessing I'd say it might be the conflagulator. Sometimes they're left hand thread if you're north of the equator. But seeing as though it's on the east coast it's probably an expired blivet strap. Might need a can of metric exhaust syrup.
Steve as a young electrician only in the trade ten years I love your videos. Your a dying breed. I wish more people my age had your work ethic. I'm only 28 but I fear where we are heading.
Should check gas pressure it seemed a little high when it came on .check your temperature rise check your a coil for dirt . Check your Static pressure with the filter and without.
It's a nice idea to take a picture of it with your smart phone and get a good picture of it and then you can pull it up when you're putting it back together that's that's a good way to I've done that once or twice on things keep up the good work!
I like watching your videos. I live in FL where there's not much need for gas heaters but now when you open the panel I recognize the parts and what they do. Thanks.
@@stevenlavimoniere freaking A Steve. They all are professionals when you talk to them, as soon as a problem or a wrench hits their hands all their knowledge is lost. Talk is cheap, showing what you can do is a different story.
@@stevenlavimoniere I'd agree on all your service work (which is inspiring to watch, btw), but wouldn't you want one for changeouts, just to help move and manipulate heavy components?
Changing the board is the easy part changed a 1000 of them. The part I hate is tell the customer what the board cost now the prices are going way up. That kit normally has wire extenders right in the box for grounds and the inducer motor / ignitor unless someone took them out. I always joke with the customer when I changing a board and tell them I have the best job in the world and say I can lay down on the job and get paid for it. But to this day I breath a sigh of relief after you change the board and the furnace works. Good Job Steven.
Ok, I've watched your service videos for a few years now. Gotta tell ya, you taking the long way around, occasionally. As soon as you bypassed the blower door, and you didn't hear the relay click in, after the time delay, the board was the primary suspect. Pull the plug, chk the voltage from the board. The particular board that you're working with has a history of failure (primarily due to the position it is mounted, causing the relays to fail and hang open.) Trane/ American Standard and York all used them extensively, and had recalls to replace the controls thru the years. Seems manufacturers think you should never leave a furnace alone too long. Keep going back to improve their poorly designed equipment. It surprises me with your time in the trade, you didn't recognize that. I had over 35 yrs in the trade, that furnace should have been repaired within thirty minutes. I'm also kind of amused at you stressing the wiring to the replacement board, should have been a ten minute job. I don't know, I'm obviously speaking through 20/20 hindsight, of my days in the field. You don't work under a dispatcher, you do have that luxury.
Sometimes it just pays to have a real professional like Steve do the work. I notice you go to customers who used you in the past, had someone else come in, then you have to come fix the problem because the other guy had no clue what he was doing. I wish you were down in NJ!
Wow! I'm super impressed. I chanced upon this channel. Absolutely you know your stuff. Intelligence above and beyond the average individual. Trust me, I do all my own work and I know intelligence when I see it. Thanks for sharing this and all of your other video's. The only thing I could suggest, get a head mounted go pro. I'm certain others, as well as myself, would love to see the work from that angle. That way we miss nothing. Super great video. Thank you! :)
My Powermate 3400W generator won't turn on my NEW gas furnace! It did run the old oil furnace. When utility power to house came back on, the furnace started. The generator sockets have 3rd ground hole The ground is already connected to neutral side. The power out at end of 3 prong extension cord was 60cycle AC 117volts. The cord was checked for ground at both ends. What's wrong? The male plug on furnace side has poor ground. The socket on furnace has loose connection for plug. Is the new gas furnace in lockout mode? Service sheet says no power. No red light on board. Door switch has power. Does the new Airtemp gas furnace have a timed off period before allowing main circuit board to turn on? No response from contractor. He has the plague.
That a/c evaporator is most likely dirty causing high limit . Seen a lot of new homes and old homes when some sort of remodeling had been done old home just plain dirty , dog hair and pet dander and that smells just dandy 😬
Yeah I hate getting other peoples mess when I get called to work on someone's truck. Get it with the harness pulled , or broken or stripped bolts. Pet peeve
Why would you even waste time with a unit with a heat exchanger that is probably ready to split? Honestly I’d quote a change out … that unit is now your baby.
I feel he is at the top of his game for 2 reasons. He approaches all his jobs with common sense and he is willing to put in the work and not leave till it’s fixed! He actually has the customer at heart and would never leave them cold and stranded. Definitely a role model in the field!
Knowing the sequence of operation is key to understanding what it supposed to be doing, and check what’s falling. Great video good to see you working hard after your nineteens. You are a great tech, thanks for your video.
Sequence of operations is the first principle they taught us in class. Without knowing it, we are next to useless. Every ice machine is different. Furnaces are all the same aside from certain system pre-checks.
I have learned so much here this guy is good
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Steve doesn’t give up mama! “ No heat’s the game and troubleshooting’s my name!”
I can feel my knees and back aching watching this lol.
Nice diagnostic Steve ! ... I had the controller go out on an older 1995 Lenox the day I put my mothers house on the market ... I'm a carpenter/builder, but have a little experience with gas units having worked with a lot of top notch HVAC guys for 3-4 decades, a little research showed a common problem with the Johnson controller they used ... cracked circuit boards were an issue, but an updated one was available online, came in 2 days ... mostly "plug and play" except for thermostat, AC and humidifier wires ... took 15 minutes to install .... ran like a top for 4 months until the buyer/builder knocked the house down to build a McMansion .... and I agree, so glad you mentioned the FILTER ISSUE .... I've never run anything greater than a MERV 4 on my units (but do use a filter charger spray) ... furnaces are not designed to be "air purifiers" ... those "allergen" filters restrict air flow too much causing all sorts of high limit issues ... overheating, cycling, fan motor and other parts burn out ... and of course, very inefficient air circulation .... I use the cheap green filters on the returns as "pre-filters" because I have large, hairy dogs ... and a MERV 4 at the furnace .... I buy a 6 pack and change every 2 months ... 6 year old propane unit in a 150 year old house and my returns, ducts and furnace are spotless ... in a pinch you can spray "Endust" instead of "charger" lightly on any filter to increase capture without slowing down air movement ... hope that helps some viewers as having a "balanced" and efficient system with the right filters saves you a ton on fuel costs and reduces wear on a constantly cycling unit
I can remember back when once I rushed to blame the pressure switch and spent 2 hours fooling around without fixing anything. That was before I found Steve's videos. Now I'm watching this, calling out the board. That's a great feeling. Really grateful for these videos, which are clear, No-Nonsense, and easy to learn from.
Why blame the pressure switch?
@@murkyturkey5238 i was talking about a long time ago, when I didn't have much experience. Blaming the pressure switch or some other component that very rarely fails is something that people with less experience tend to do. I recently had a no heat call and the owner told me it needed a new gas valve after he already replaced the transformer and a few other small things. It was not the gas valve, it was the thermostat. But when you don't have a bunch of past experiences to rely on, and not enough knowledge to logically diagnose, then you will jump to conclusions.
@@murkyturkey5238 but why blame the pressure switch? Maybe because the board was giving him an error code saying something along the lines of the pressure switch isn't working or something. If the pressure switch isn't working, it could be bad, but you have to test it first, and really you need the inducer to turn on too, and if it doesn't turn on then that probably means the problem isn't the switch, it is the inducer or it is the thing that is supposed to be powering the inducer. But the handyman in this video was maybe strictly reading the error code off the furnace. Another thing that leads people jump to conclusions.
@@themayorofairconditioning2868 i see I was just curious if there was a particular reason you would lean towards, ty
75% OF THE TIME, ITS NOT THE BOARD, you are guessing.
The soldered pins on the female part of the 9 pin molex plug on the board sometimes get a hairline crack due to blower vibration over time. It will throw codes depending on which pin is making intermittent contact. If you take the board off and pinch the pins a bit on the back where they are soldered with needle nose pliers, you can sometimes get it to run temporarily until a replacement can be installed. I run into this all the time. As soon as it threw the air proving switch code upon a call for heat, I knew the board needed to be replaced. If you have trouble getting a board, you could try resoldering the pins on the old board to buy them some time as well (if you have a soldering kit on hand).
If soldering the pins is the issue, then why replace the board?
@@skliros9235 because I will warranty a new board but not guarantee them a solder job will last. (We used to solder them in the past) I have had a couple customers actually solder their own boards and I reinstalled them.
That was an excellent repair. You are a very honest HVAC Technician
Good job! Maybe we should educate customers to buy air filters based on MERV rating instead of fancy advertising. Not all filters are compatible with all equipment👍
And sometimes it isn't the filter at all. There are several things that need to be tested and/or adjusted before just assuming the filter is the problem.
Bet the evaporator coil is plugged too.
@@DoyleHargraves-hr5clfrom using cheap filters or none in the past is what I was thinking
You did the right thing by this lady. Being a super hero for people who need it, there’s nothing better. You should be proud of yourself and your great work ethic. I really enjoy your channel. Keep the great videos coming. Thanks Steve. 👍🏻😊🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 Your a great American
Some notes for you guys just starting out...
1) The flash code only indicates which device is being checked. It does not tell you if that device is doing what it is supposed to do. In this case, because the inducer was not running, the switch SHOULD be open. Your dead giveaway is that the inducer did not come on.
2) Confirm that you have 24v on W1. Don't assume the stat is working or that the wiring is good. Confirm that 24v call is coming from the stat to the board's C and W1 terminals.
3) Confirm the 120v going to the inducer. While it is unlikely that the inducer is bad, if I have to drive an hour to get a board, I will put 120v on that inducer before I leave to make sure it is good, so I don't get stung when I come back with a board and find that I need an inducer as well.
4) Don't curse in front of customers. It makes you sound unprofessional.
5) Don't throw the industry under the bus with residential customers. Just say, "now you know you can call me next time."
Steve knows a lot of stuff and you can learn from him. I'm just adding some tips for you until I get my channel up and running. See you then.
4. Some people don't know how to not curse. I'm sure he dosn't mean it.
@@leedrummond164 If I cursed in front of a store manager, that is probably the last time I would have that client. They would be on the phone to the provider in a heartbeat, because everyone is hyper-woke nowadays. Since I stopped cursing back in the 90's, it is no longer going to happen, and like Eric O says, "If I can do it, you can do it." For those guys who have ever been in an arraignment situation, just act like you are talking to a judge. You wouldn't say, for example, "your honor, he tried to f*** me over!" Generally, that only makes things worse, both in court and in business. Similarly, if the client curses, don't tell him to stop. You are there as a neutral party to fix their problem. At one point in my life, I worked in a cursing subculture. There are lots of them out there. But, you are not on a construction site with an HVAC customer, so you always need to spruce up your game. You never know who you are talking to, so always tread lightly. Just another 2 cents.
@@arthouston7361 I agree with everything you say. I don't think it's ever professional to be swearing in front of your clients, however most clients will be willing to put up with a bit of swearing if they feel in safe hands with the engineer. And obviously if the works good the client isn't going to chance using somebody else over a sh** here and there. But all told. No, not professional.
@@leedrummond164 In my segment, the person who hears me reports to the decision making entities, ei, the service brokerage and the corporate. They do not make the value proposition judgement that you are describing. They will send in another company right away. They don't even have a good metric for comparing companies, because they have one alleged pro working for them called a "trade specialist," who often came from a different industry segment, and has never worked on the kind of equipment being serviced. He only becomes involved in rare circumstances like the wrong piping design being used for a low pressure gas roof, and no one was tasked with checking out that level of detail during the install.
Different people troubleshoot differently, the first guy that couldn’t figure it out shouldn’t be running a service van, and this guy done it different than I would of. It same outcome good job
That was a good repair, you saved that lady a ton of money and hassle
They wonder why it cost so much . Great job Steve love your videos !
Great job steve
Appreciate you fixing the unit instead of replacing, some of us really like see old things survive.
People are so used to paying more money that in this case of a “more is better” filter they are flabbergasted to hear “get a cheaper filter”!
I learned this the last few years as well.
Don't think it's the filter after hearing to set the temperature to 65 I'll bet they also shut down some of the registers thinking it would save money ... restricted air flow will cause high a temperature cut off....
great job on the control panel replacement assessment....
@@jimrolzitto9664 so it could be the filter then
Would've definitely checked that heat exchanger too.
Those were great furnaces back in the day.... great video Steve !!
Carrier Weather Maker 9200s were great builds as well. Many are still around.
I ran in a similar call last week , on a trane system , replace the control board then it work ...
But good job I enjoy and learn yours videos...
To thanks ...
All of the oldies are better than this new crap being mass produced nowadays imo... Love your videos too Ted 👍
Nice job Steve, I’ve changed out some similar controls, it gets tedious but as you did “ one wire at a time” . As you know everybody doesn’t have the $$$ to replace equipment.
I guess the reason for using cheaper filters are because the more premium product has a higher filter rating but too much air flow restriction to the point where the furnace can't function correctly.
I think dirty coils are to blame for most of it. Using the 750s to 1000 filters never had a problem much over that and maybe.
people just don't understand how much these professionals are ripping them off they will give you a discounted inspection for your furnace for $60 and then find every reason in the world to keep charging you and charging you for this or charging over that if people would just get up off their butt and try to learn something they would understand just how simple simple it is to repair furnaces.. a capacitor is generally a blower problem flame sensors igniters 20 bucks almost no problem to install these furnace dealers around me wanted $450 to put a condenser motor in I did it myself from now on I do everything myself even if I screw it up two or three times I'm still buddy ahead and I've learned something thanks for your video
Usually the condenser motors goes out when it comes to motors ,the flame sensor is a good one to check ,first I check thermostat never trust what they tell you, I look at it then ask did you just change the batteries? If they say yes then they put in wrong had it happen on a rental he was positive it was right I made him check using facetime yep wrong saved me 100$
As the World Spins with Steve and Miss Molly, never a dull moment, txs for sharing...
Steve being the super hero is why people call you and not the other guy's!
This video is a great example of why I still use a mid-efficiency furnace that was installed in 1986. The only issue I've had in 29 years is the blower motor crapping out last winter. Took one day to find a replacement. Took 2 days for the original to be repaired. I kept the (repaired) original motor as my spare.
waste of money, on repairing a motor you wont ever need on a old 86 model. New one will outlast any further ones needed..
I had a problem similar to this on the high limit They just bought a leather couch and they pushed it up against the return air grill The customer was not happy after I charged them $140 to move the couch Great video everyone should not be having filters Beyond merve 8
I'm surprised so many techs don't bust out the multimeter. Pretty simple, really. Controller / sequencer receives 24v here, send 120 or 240v there. I could teach my 12 year old son how to diagnose an electric furnace in a month or two.
Maybe it's because companies only want to hire readymade techs instead of helpers with potential. Techs have to pretend to understand more than they do to get a job.
The manufacturers don't want techs servicing boards in the field, they want them dropping in new modular boards. Troubleshooting takes time and money.
@@AiMR That's what the guy just did in the video. Replaced the board. Sometime the problem is just because of a fuse. I'm not professional. Base on the look of the old board didn't have any visible fuse. But I can see that board has cover. If a good and want to save customer money not their time. Would attempt to open the cover and look inside. Unless, he has open the board before in his past experience. Then I guess sure. But a system has high and low voltage don't have a fuse would be rare.
However, base on the video. 1. he bad mouth the previous tech first. Yes the previous tech should have more knowledge, but he did replace what the board asked for. I'm okay if this guy bad mouth when he actually test the old pressure switch, just a simple blow into it with continuity or put it back in but did not do it.
Yes sadly most tech try to work fast try to save time. Walk to the furnace, touch wires, visual inspection. Jump to the part. Instead, if you check voltage, why not from the source. Sometime go with the sequel cut time. Rather than jump all over the place and guessing.
Just wonder, super rare chance but. That wire from the board to the motor is bad. A simple continuity test before calling the board is bad would end the guessing game.
Love Watching your videos Steve Im in the UK Love u can get things running and keep customer happy, have a good xmass Steve and Molly.,
I feel like most techs can’t really confirm if it's a bad control board. They order one, replace it, and hope it fixes the damn issue. Thanks for the video.
Yep green horns/scammers do that plus easy money
Must be a great feeling when you get something working that someone else gave up on
Definitely, its an adrenaline rush, nothing like a grand slam on a service call and the customer flabbergasted
This one was awesome nicely done Steve. That was a solid for that lady.
You have to explain things better Stevie, you should say that the furnace has too hard a time sucking air thru the expensive filters, it's easier to suck air thru cheap filters and so it's easier on the furnace
I was thinking the same thing
I have ran across fellow techs that can't fix things, and carefully probing they didn't see it in school. Amazing how some don't know ductwork either.
The best way to save time is eliminate stat IMO by jumpers w/ meter. It also speeds up transformer culprit diag..
Love watching the Master!
I was in the same neighborhood doing a repair ! I had no idea that Steve Lavimoniere lives in the area ? I love this channel and Steve and his Dog ( security dog to protect the Van and tools ) !
He lives in mass, Dartmouth if I’m not mistaken, i live in ct and trust me we needed help a time or so i hoped he was closer lol
Steve, you need an apprentice. Someone to assist you, but more important someone to pass your knowledge on to. I wish I could have worked with someone like you when I was younger.
A lot of guys complaining about the lack of knowledge in young people. But few give back or have the patience to train.
You want the thermostat set at 70 No 65 that is a little chilly !
Steve as a young electrician only in the trade ten years I love your videos. Your a dying breed. I wish more people my age had your work ethic. I'm only 28 but I fear where we are heading.
i think your right .. younger generation is in big trouble ..most want a free ride of the government .. that wont last to long ..
Dan I completely agree with you spot on man. I'm your age and in the heavy equipment repair and mechanic field. Same exact problem.. no one younger wants to work. The best thing we can do is try and absorb as much as we can from guys like Steve, be thankful they are willing to share all these things that they have learned the hard way. I don't know what the hell the world is going to look like when all these guys are retired and there's going to be a handful of us trying to carry all the other lazy morons that don't wanna be in a trade and want to sit on a computer and have stupid titles like "social media influencer ".
@@stevenlavimoniere VOTE TRUMP, Steve....
@@Adam_Poirier When there's a shortage of trades people and an abundance of young folk without tools or gumption, I know where I'll be. In a van making bank!
There is a huge movement out there to teach young techs. Search for TY Branaman on TH-cam, he has great videos. Try HVAC school with Bryan orr, also great videos. There is a ton out there. I have been in the trade for 15 years and try to teach my apprentices the good old way of diagnosing a system.
Call Steve Lav he's your man, if he can't fix it no one can. Ain't a shit show in town he can't handle.
I've tossed soo many of those Trane/A.S. off my truck in the past. Wish I kept a few of the parts.
Sir the new gas furnace
I wish Steve should move to Maine. I watched all his oil burner videos. But need his help on my old Beckett trailer furnace
Great Job Steve!! The real HVAC guy.
im 50 now,and im so tired do ol the work allone,,i feel u steven
had someone come by and do a diagnostic on the heating system before I needed it. When I did need it the small purge fan didn't run, he had left the ground wire off the cover and the circuit board. Luckily I was well versed in looking for out of the ordinary while working my job. Don't get anyone to check your heating and cooling unless you are having problems.
Troubleshooting 101 follow the wiring diagram and if there is not one due to age follow the wiring to each component. Higher voltage to lower voltage components . If there is a circuit board or control module present there will be power in and power out. 32 years I spent in the hvac trade and now retired. I miss the challenge of fixing the unfixable.
jwar, I worked 46 years in the Elevator trade. Because I knew Nothing about it. I took a 3 year A/C Heat course at night thru local Adult Ed. Program. Taught Electronics and troubleshooting at Union School. Worked for various shops as a troubleshooter, made over scale for 25 years. I fixed the building engineers Hvac equipment. when they couldn't. This makes my head hurt.
Get rid of that uber restrictive filter. Those filters are blower motor murders. Ted Bundy of filters. Lol
At 31.05 ( I hope this Fucking thing works, that's all I can say ). Priceless. Eleven words I've said many a time.
Gas furnace service calls are the easiest. Boilers, oil suck. Hate oil.
The gas valve went out in my boiler and Honeywell didn't make it anymore so I bought a Robert Shaw with the same BTU rating a couple little tweaks and it's worked fine for 5 years. But sometimes I worry about my boiler because it's around 80 years old.
good enough for this neighborhood
Ugh... those kinds of jobs are tedious! I would have been inclined to screw a piece of sheet metal to the furnace, where the old control was, that hung out to the left a couple inches and then attached the new control to that new piece of sheet metal. No need to splice wires...
Could use a good cleaning..
Listen to that gas flow. Money, money money, burning up. I heard natural gas got really expensive.
It shouldn't be, we have more natural gas in this country than Saudi Arabia has oil
If I was guessing I'd say it might be the conflagulator. Sometimes they're left hand thread if you're north of the equator. But seeing as though it's on the east coast it's probably an expired blivet strap. Might need a can of metric exhaust syrup.
Steve as a young electrician only in the trade ten years I love your videos. Your a dying breed. I wish more people my age had your work ethic. I'm only 28 but I fear where we are heading.
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@@brucehux248 Cult45! Cult45! Get lost, traitor. Replying to an obvious russian troll bot with this nonsense
@@jefftrex hows your 'uncle joe' and kamala the clown working?
No handy man was going to fix this one.
Sir, excuse me, sir, what is a furnace?
I live in southwest Arizona.
Nice work Mr. steeven lavimoniere whachin your vedios from El.paso tx?
Should check gas pressure it seemed a little high when it came on .check your temperature rise check your a coil for dirt . Check your Static pressure with the filter and without.
There is a lot to be said for a pilot light, a thermocouple, and a gas valve.
It's a nice idea to take a picture of it with your smart phone and get a good picture of it and then you can pull it up when you're putting it back together that's that's a good way to I've done that once or twice on things keep up the good work!
I like watching your videos. I live in FL where there's not much need for gas heaters but now when you open the panel I recognize the parts and what they do. Thanks.
Why not look for an Apprentice Steve? You have a ton of work, your a wealth of knowledge, and you would be contributing to a future tradesman.
I HAVE A TON OF APPRENTICES RIGHT HERE ON TH-cam
@@stevenlavimoniere Thanks Steven
@@stevenlavimoniere ha ha
@@stevenlavimoniere freaking A Steve. They all are professionals when you talk to them, as soon as a problem or a wrench hits their hands all their knowledge is lost. Talk is cheap, showing what you can do is a different story.
I do not see Steve working with a young green horn
I reckon if you would have put the board in upside down everything would have reached perfectly, but I digress. Good job anyways.
thats weird how the exhaust fan would not turn on before the flame lit
good work
The sweet taste of victory, how sweet it is. Steve is a superhero.
I'm thinking this is what's wrong with my furnace is that like generic mother board for every unit ,it's like 250 for my furnace
More wiring on this girl than the Apollo 13.
You go out by yourself because you chose to go out by yourself steve!
THATS RIGHT I AM FINE ON MY OWN .. I DONT NEED SOMEONE WATCHING ME WORK .. WHAT I DO I DONT NEED A HELPER ..IF YOU DO YOUR A LAZY USELESS FUCK
@@stevenlavimoniere I'd agree on all your service work (which is inspiring to watch, btw), but wouldn't you want one for changeouts, just to help move and manipulate heavy components?
Another quagmire!! fixed mama…:) 🥂🥂
So he couldn’t figure out a bad board? That’s embarrassing. Or did he fry it possibly backfeeding 120v?
fried it..
Why u alway put the cam down when you you always started the maintenance
Steven lavimonier I like your utube videos
Increasing the blower speed will stop unit from hitting the high temp limit.
His voice makes me laugh reminds me of archie bunker
Changing the board is the easy part changed a 1000 of them. The part I hate is tell the customer what the board cost now the prices are going way up. That kit normally has wire extenders right in the box for grounds and the inducer motor / ignitor unless someone took them out. I always joke with the customer when I changing a board and tell them I have the best job in the world and say I can lay down on the job and get paid for it. But to this day I breath a sigh of relief after you change the board and the furnace works. Good Job Steven.
You and me both, flippin' super heros, trying to save the customer money.
If you put the box upside down it would have fit !
"Yellow is park".... is that what Steve said when labeling the wires before replacing?
Ok, I've watched your service videos for a few years now. Gotta tell ya, you taking the long way around, occasionally. As soon as you bypassed the blower door, and you didn't hear the relay click in, after the time delay, the board was the primary suspect. Pull the plug, chk the voltage from the board. The particular board that you're working with has a history of failure (primarily due to the position it is mounted, causing the relays to fail and hang open.) Trane/ American Standard and York all used them extensively, and had recalls to replace the controls thru the years. Seems manufacturers think you should never leave a furnace alone too long. Keep going back to improve their poorly designed equipment. It surprises me with your time in the trade, you didn't recognize that. I had over 35 yrs in the trade, that furnace should have been repaired within thirty minutes. I'm also kind of amused at you stressing the wiring to the replacement board, should have been a ten minute job. I don't know, I'm obviously speaking through 20/20 hindsight, of my days in the field. You don't work under a dispatcher, you do have that luxury.
Sometimes it just pays to have a real professional like Steve do the work. I notice you go to customers who used you in the past, had someone else come in, then you have to come fix the problem because the other guy had no clue what he was doing.
I wish you were down in NJ!
The relay on the board doesn't even click.
After the repair I saw a light still flashing on the board, is that a normal status?
Assembled in New
Jersey ya all
Another fine job steve.
Houston…we have ignition!!!
Wow! I'm super impressed. I chanced upon this channel. Absolutely you know your stuff. Intelligence above and beyond the average individual. Trust me, I do all my own work and I know intelligence when I see it. Thanks for sharing this and all of your other video's. The only thing I could suggest, get a head mounted go pro. I'm certain others, as well as myself, would love to see the work from that angle. That way we miss nothing. Super great video. Thank you! :)
My Powermate 3400W generator won't turn on my NEW gas furnace! It did run the old oil furnace. When utility power to house came back on, the furnace started. The generator sockets have 3rd ground hole The ground is already connected to neutral side. The power out at end of 3 prong extension cord was 60cycle AC 117volts. The cord was checked for ground at both ends. What's wrong? The male plug on furnace side has poor ground. The socket on furnace has loose connection for plug. Is the new gas furnace in lockout mode? Service sheet says no power. No red light on board. Door switch has power. Does the new Airtemp gas furnace have a timed off period before allowing main circuit board to turn on? No response from contractor. He has the plague.
It looks quite tedious to say the least reconnecting replacement board.
draw diagram, mark wires with a Sharpie,, take your time.
Back when this was a new model, I replaced several control boards... White Rogers. Glad that a sub was available for this one.
Good job, Steve.
That a/c evaporator is most likely dirty causing high limit . Seen a lot of new homes and old homes when some sort of remodeling had been done old home just plain dirty , dog hair and pet dander and that smells just dandy 😬
As the saying goes ,know the sequence of operation, then trace the path
Second only haves unit where parts are easily available lol
Steve, you are right. Having to deal with the last "Handy Man`s" mess and a rookie helper too would get "stressful". K.I.S.S. is the way to go.
Yeah I hate getting other peoples mess when I get called to work on someone's truck. Get it with the harness pulled , or broken or stripped bolts. Pet peeve
Get a roll of shrink butt connectors. Seals up the ends and looks nice too.
I was watching some of your older videos and seen your old dog. I was like wtf what happened to miss Molly. Then realized it was an old video.
Why would you even waste time with a unit with a heat exchanger that is probably ready to split? Honestly I’d quote a change out … that unit is now your baby.
I must have missed that; Where did anyone say the heat exchanger was anything?? I don't think there was any questions about the heat exchanger.
HOMEOWNER WANTED TO TRY THE BOARD.. SO THATS THE ROUTE I TOOK
Lots of out fits will not work on old sleds too much risk ,plus the techs now really take too long fuck it up etc...
I think you could fix a rainy day. Good video 👍👍
Its great been able to be a super hero some of the time
Are you the sister?
No….I’m you’re payment
I would have checked gas pressure and checked evaporate coil, to find why it was shortcycling.
Further investigation would have been wise. Check exchanger for cracks due overheat etc. But hey she has heat...
Also, check the most simple fix. Make sure all supplies vents are open without any restrictions.