The color scheme on the ball makes it easy to read what the ball will do on the lanes. My Brunswick Attitude 3 was a ball from the 90's that was similar to this ball in motion but not as strong. The color scheme on that ball made it very easy to read as well. A lot of people said the ball was ugly, but that ball made me some money and had my 1st 300 with it the same year Parker Bohn shot 300 on tv with the same ball.
looks like the ball does all the work... easy to throw in that 3rd arrow zone and don't have to hit up on it for response... I would seriously consider putting this in my bag.
Help me decide lol. I thought I was all set to get the theorem but i love the look of this ball and the ultimate defender. I bowl on a slightly heavier house shot.
I got mine! first 14 lb ball, kicks out ten pin better than any other ball I ever had. Have had short time now, still learning what I can do with it for me personally works best when I can send it 5 - 10 boards right, can also use down in outside, am low rev player. Had many great balls in the past, up to date, this is best one had in a while............brunsnick's review is spot on.
Looking to replace my Katana Strike and Assualt. I am a speed dominate bowler with a rev around 325 ish. I also have the original Archtype which I use as first ball often. Any advice you could offer on this ball matching up for me as my #2 ball or med/heavy oil ball. VS. Something newer or just replacing the Strike with another one.
I thought the core was a big part of the continuation power of the Archetype solid, and I believe so even more after seeing it wrapped in a hybrid with HK22. This looks like the coast-to-coast ball for bowlers with a higher rev rate. Also for accurate bowlers with medium revs who leave too many corner pins. I said I'm done buying bowling balls, but this might make me score higher. And it's a gorgeous creampuff.
Bought it‼️‼️Love it. Didn’t practice it until league night. Left 8 -10pins. Missed 2. Left 2 -4pins. Missed 1. Left 1-7pin. Made it. No multiple pins. No splits. 1 clean game. 647. Out of box
I love the look of this ball. I just added the Theorem to my bag (I haven't thrown it yet). Is there enough difference between the Archetype and Theorem to justify adding this ball?
I think there is with response off the spot. Theorem is that more sweeping motion and Archetype Hybrid is more violent and quick. A touch of surface can separate them even more.
100% agree about Track's current line up. I honestly believe I could create a 6/9 ball arsenal with just Track balls. The only thing they are missing is a urethane but I've always got my purple for that 😂
When the specto data comes up, is the “entry speed” the speed it hits the pins at? Is that the speed measurement that is usually at the bowling centers?
@@brunsnickI had 2 299s. One last fall and one last summer with the legion solid. Purple ball. Hoping the Archetype the one before this one keeps doing me good. Last night I wasn’t myself and I struggled a bit
Hi Nick, I bowl on a med pattern my rev rate and ball speed is close to yours..love your videos..How would u drill this ball for med patterns..Im thinking a 70 x 4 1/2 ×40 layout..what do u think...Thanks again for the great videos..
I know no one is going to like me saying this, but on these reviews I would really like to see you also take all the hand out, move way right and roll directly up 6/7 board and show us what the ball can do in the hand of a very low rev straighter style. Though I do love watching you rev it and rotate it, it doesn't tell me anything about what the ball will actually do for the average bowler or a very low rev bowler like myself.
@@brunsnick I'm a lefty that is a more speed dominate straighter style 210/215 avg bowler in West MI (just down the road actually) if you ever want to add in a guest for different looks 🤔.
Give me back the original roto grip defiant and track atomic energy those are still my two favorite balls as well as my original black widow pearl threw my first 300 game 15yrs ago with the black widow so im biased but always liked hammer equipment i also like ebonite as well.. never liked storm products they are too long and unpredictable leave a lot of splits with those balls. Why is your middle index finger hows slanted at a tweaked angle does that help you get under the ball more or get more axis rotation? Ive tried a friends norm dook style drilling with no fingertips insert i have to say my fingers fit the holes better and i got more lift and it felt good too . If i ever get back into bowling i may go no finger tips insert not sure yet.. I liked that new black widow 3 you threw recently that thing was a beast..
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Wow really difficult choice here as a speed dominant player looking for something strong to add to the bag. This or DV8 Violent Collision for tournament use and high friction league use?
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Not talking trash because I DO like the videos I love to bowl as well but these videos don't offer us much. I only say this because of how insanely easy your house shot is. When you look at the sheet the outside is Completely dry 13 to 1 is so easy ANY ball thrown halfway decent is going to look amazing the layout of the pattern makes it almost useless to us because ANY ball is going to look clutch. Again I think you are very knowledgeable and I can appreciate that the novice crowd wants to see strikes and the manufacturer loves strikes but your 200+ audience would probably agree maybe the 8 to 1 type patters would be better and more interesting. 8 to 1 is still pretty dang easy but would show ball characteristics much better. This patter doesn't show us anything worth while
I don’t think a better looking ball has ever existed - the swirls and colours are beautiful
The color scheme on the ball makes it easy to read what the ball will do on the lanes. My Brunswick Attitude 3 was a ball from the 90's that was similar to this ball in motion but not as strong. The color scheme on that ball made it very easy to read as well. A lot of people said the ball was ugly, but that ball made me some money and had my 1st 300 with it the same year Parker Bohn shot 300 on tv with the same ball.
Pretty ball. Works very well in the right hands. That’s you BrunsNick!😊
Thanks buddy!
looks like the ball does all the work... easy to throw in that 3rd arrow zone and don't have to hit up on it for response... I would seriously consider putting this in my bag.
Help me decide lol. I thought I was all set to get the theorem but i love the look of this ball and the ultimate defender. I bowl on a slightly heavier house shot.
Theorem is one of the best in the 7 brands, but if you bowl on heavier oil, maybe the Archetype Hybrid with a stronger core would be ideal
@@brunsnickthank you
Just ordered this ball today! Thanks to another spectacular review by you BrunsNick!
I concur, thanx for the reply.
I got mine! first 14 lb ball, kicks out ten pin better than any other ball I ever had. Have had short time now, still learning what I can do with it for me personally works best when I can send it 5 - 10 boards right, can also use down in outside, am low rev player. Had many great balls in the past, up to date, this is best one had in a while............brunsnick's review is spot on.
Awesome! Thanks for the feedback!
Just picked one up today. I'll post my opinion after I use it on Tuesday. Liked the video, it gave me some ideas what shots to try.
How'd you like this ball?
Looking to replace my
Katana Strike and Assualt.
I am a speed dominate bowler with a rev around 325 ish. I also have the original Archtype which I use as first ball often. Any advice you could offer on this ball matching up for me as my #2 ball or med/heavy oil ball. VS. Something newer or just replacing the Strike with another one.
Doing my research on this beast. Not sure though i may still go with the zigzag? Help me decide Nick!
They’re similar in many aspects! Both will be in the same class of performance.
@@brunsnick thanks nick
I thought the core was a big part of the continuation power of the Archetype solid, and I believe so even more after seeing it wrapped in a hybrid with HK22. This looks like the coast-to-coast ball for bowlers with a higher rev rate. Also for accurate bowlers with medium revs who leave too many corner pins. I said I'm done buying bowling balls, but this might make me score higher. And it's a gorgeous creampuff.
Great showing of this ball.
i have the og one and love it was my 25th birthday gift from my other half and its been a great ball so maybe this one will be my 26th bday gift .
Here’s hoping!
How do you see this ball fitting relative to Theorem and Black Widow 3.0?
More angular off the spot, probably in between for overall hook.
Bought it‼️‼️Love it. Didn’t practice it until league night. Left 8 -10pins. Missed 2. Left 2 -4pins. Missed 1. Left 1-7pin. Made it. No multiple pins. No splits. 1 clean game. 647. Out of box
Nice set! Good start!
Another awesome ball that hooks on a THS!
Has to be those pretty colors and technical name!!
Absolutely right! You have a keen eye
I love the look of this ball. I just added the Theorem to my bag (I haven't thrown it yet). Is there enough difference between the Archetype and Theorem to justify adding this ball?
I think there is with response off the spot. Theorem is that more sweeping motion and Archetype Hybrid is more violent and quick. A touch of surface can separate them even more.
nice video looks good
Thanks 👍
I need a hybrid in my bag. I have all black widows so it makes sense to get the 2.0 but i really want to try other brands 😫
Looks awesome on the Crown Jewel.
That really looks GOOD!👍😁
100% agree about Track's current line up. I honestly believe I could create a 6/9 ball arsenal with just Track balls. The only thing they are missing is a urethane but I've always got my purple for that 😂
Gotta have that Purple!
I've never owned a Track ball until last night when I drilled up a Theorem and Sensor Solid. Can wait to throw them tonight.
Agree 100%. I have 6 track balls and a pitch black.
Sensor solid and Paragon pearl have been my go-to balls since they came out.
When the specto data comes up, is the “entry speed” the speed it hits the pins at? Is that the speed measurement that is usually at the bowling centers?
Yes.
I just picked up the archetype a few weeks ago. Had a 728 last week and 692 in league. High game of 257 so far.
Nice Vince! 🙌🏻
Been looking at it I need more data. I'm really interested in zigzag
@@brunsnickthanks!
@@brunsnickI had 2 299s. One last fall and one last summer with the legion solid. Purple ball. Hoping the Archetype the one before this one keeps doing me good. Last night I wasn’t myself and I struggled a bit
Currently my asymmetrical balss are katana strike, eternity pi, black widow 3.0. Where would this fit and would it offer something different?
Will likely be cleaner and more flip than what you have.
Hi Nick, I bowl on a med pattern my rev rate and ball speed is close to yours..love your videos..How would u drill this ball for med patterns..Im thinking a 70 x 4 1/2 ×40 layout..what do u think...Thanks again for the great videos..
That would probably be okay if you’re wanting to play a little straighter. 👍🏻
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Colors look great. But no matter the brand, just have never had good luck with hybrids. The always leave me single pins, even on good shots.
Have a Black Widow 3.0 laid out 60x5x45. Would this be a good ball down from that? 480 rev rate 20 mph launch speed. PAP 5.5 over 1/2 up
Yes absolutely. Should pick up right where you left off with a little more length and quicker response when the lanes begin to dry up.
I know no one is going to like me saying this, but on these reviews I would really like to see you also take all the hand out, move way right and roll directly up 6/7 board and show us what the ball can do in the hand of a very low rev straighter style. Though I do love watching you rev it and rotate it, it doesn't tell me anything about what the ball will actually do for the average bowler or a very low rev bowler like myself.
Wouldn’t be very consistent since I never throw it like that. It would be akin to asking a lefty to switch hands and throw it righty.
@@brunsnick Perhaps time to expand the show and bring on a low rev guest bowler on occasion?
@@brunsnick I'm a lefty that is a more speed dominate straighter style 210/215 avg bowler in West MI (just down the road actually) if you ever want to add in a guest for different looks 🤔.
Hey nick, u think there is a big enough difference to have this ball and the radical zig zag ? Which is probably my favorite ball right now.
Probably not enough to have both unless the layouts and surface were different.
The only thing I flipped lately was a headpin that stood up in the 4 pin spot.
Doh!
Awesome ball but I’m interested in the ultimate defender
Phil invented skid/flip..
Dang it!
Is it 2 parts pearl or 2 parts solid, i can easily see the blue is pearl and the black is solid, but I can’t tell for the white
Great video i have the outer limits bowl ball how do you think these two balls would stack up in comparison?
This is sharper off the spot for sure, better from inside angles.
Give me back the original roto grip defiant and track atomic energy those are still my two favorite balls as well as my original black widow pearl threw my first 300 game 15yrs ago with the black widow so im biased but always liked hammer equipment i also like ebonite as well.. never liked storm products they are too long and unpredictable leave a lot of splits with those balls.
Why is your middle index finger hows slanted at a tweaked angle does that help you get under the ball more or get more axis rotation?
Ive tried a friends norm dook style drilling with no fingertips insert i have to say my fingers fit the holes better and i got more lift and it felt good too . If i ever get back into bowling i may go no finger tips insert not sure yet..
I liked that new black widow 3 you threw recently that thing was a beast..
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Hello Brunsnick, is the Archetype Hybrid stronger than the Paragon Pearl?
I think the Paragon Pearl is a little less dramatic off the breakpoint and has a longer hook window.
Wow really difficult choice here as a speed dominant player looking for something strong to add to the bag. This or DV8 Violent Collision for tournament use and high friction league use?
This one should be a touch cleaner and more responsive. Both similar though.
Would this be a good ball on fresh house pattern in thirteen lbs
On fresh? Maybe, might be a little angular.
Archetype hybrid or Theorem to fit with my Primal Shock & Journey?
Not familiar with competitor stuff sorry.
Theorem is more continuous sweeping motion and Archetype Hybrid is more abrupt and quick off the spot.
@@brunsnick appreciate you
I almost walked by my prediction on Track releasing a follow up for the Archetype…well, here it is. With HK22.
Walked back*
how would you compare this ball to the black widow hybrid?
This is more abrupt off the spot and the 2.0 Hybrid is more continuous and sweeping motion
@@brunsnick So the Archetype will be a bit more smoother and controllable?
No not really. Both are angular just saying this ball is quicker off the spot.
Archtype hybrid stronger or weaker then the Hammer Effect?
More forward and smoother compared.
The next ball in the Coast to Coast series
Just picked this baby up.. 5 x 4 x 2 layout.. as always, the only reason to buy Brunswick brands is because Brunsnick throws them!!!! 😂
I would say skid / flip
That ball looks like a T-Zone. How long before we get a Pure Madness video?
Friday 👍🏻
@@brunsnick Nice!!! Can’t wait!! That ball looks likes a backend monster
Arc/flip
I want this ball so bad
With the Hybrid cover, it may be easier to step further left than the solid and have backend recovery.
I think so too. Unless you’re on some super heavy volume.
Nick, do you think a pin-down layout would be ok on this ball?
Sure! So long as your PAP permits such a layout.
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Exactly
@@brunsnick yes
Ball #2 in the Nats bag.
What’s #1
There's another comment out there in the Brunsnick world! :) @@brunsnick
This ball is money 😊
If i worked there i would 💯 make a shirt that said "HammerTim" 😉
Solid 👌🏻
Well, ya didn't leave an 8 pin! 😂
could someone with average speed of 14 use this ball?
Yes absolutely.
#I like hybrids
Not talking trash because I DO like the videos I love to bowl as well but these videos don't offer us much. I only say this because of how insanely easy your house shot is. When you look at the sheet the outside is Completely dry 13 to 1 is so easy ANY ball thrown halfway decent is going to look amazing the layout of the pattern makes it almost useless to us because ANY ball is going to look clutch. Again I think you are very knowledgeable and I can appreciate that the novice crowd wants to see strikes and the manufacturer loves strikes but your 200+ audience would probably agree maybe the 8 to 1 type patters would be better and more interesting. 8 to 1 is still pretty dang easy but would show ball characteristics much better. This patter doesn't show us anything worth while
Thanks for the feedback 👍🏻
Maybe you can do these reviews on 2 different type of house shots but I understand part of your job is to help sell the brand(s)@@brunsnick
Good grief!
intermediate .024 for me... this thing is a monster 👻