Don’t believe me. Listen to Tulsi Gabbard, speaking from first hand experience (which is more than any of you have). Listen to her describe your slavemasters: “I left the Democratic party because it is led by an elitist cabal of woke Warmongers. They are driven by an insatiable Greed for power and they are willing to do whatever they deem is necessary, even the destruction of our freedom to get what they want and to stay in power. I left the Democratic party because it's led by fanatical ideologues who don't believe in Freedom. They don't believe in freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of expression, freedom of religion and the right of every one of us to express ourselves without fear of retribution.” Wake TF UP you freakin idiots! All these people care about is THEMSELVES! Educate yourselves, stop consuming your media from poisoned wells. God help you.
The democrat party is the party of gaslighting as you put it. There is no lie they won't tell to gain power. For example, they will with a straight face tell you men can be women.
No. Shut up with the bullshit. Trump is a dictator terorist maniac. And his perfect hiring shit on him. Biden has some minor flaws but he hires people who are exceptionally capable. If you touch the turd of Trump you are going to smell of it.
I live in Bulgaria and the Victor Orban type is already here. They already started talking about changing our political system to a presidential republic. With Russian propaganda being so effective here, it's getting scary for our fragile democracy.
It's the epitome of irony (dare I say serendipitous?) that the self-righteous crowd preaching 'preserve democracy, democracy, democracy,' while smugly wagging their fingers at the rest of us, has entirely created this mess themselves by not holding a proper primary election. Poetic.
My comments disappeared so here I try again. Books mentioned by Vlad in his talk today: How we live with difference in an increasingly polarised world also covered in Jason Blakely's book: Lost in Ideology: Interpreting Modern Political Life Paperback - March 26, 2024 Charles Taylor's book: Reconstructing Democracy: How Citizens Are Building from the Ground Up Hardcover - March 17, 2020 Literature on Democratic Regeneration, covered in Jonathan Lear's book: Radical Hope: Ethics in the Face of Cultural Devastation Paperback - April 30, 2008 Music and the Mind by Storr, Anthony ISBN 10: 000215398X / ISBN 13: 9780002153980 Published by Ballantine Books, 1992 I think this is accurate, my hearing isn't so great.
Thats the problem, any thinking liberal would in a heartbeat. But that's not the demographic of the US electorate. Trump was ahead in most of the polls even before the debate despite being a convicted felon and that his last stint in office ended with a failed coup.
Don’t beleive me. Listen to Tulsi Gabbard, speaking from first hand experience (which is more than any of you have). Listen to her describe your slavemasters: “I left the Democratic party because it is led by an elitist cabal of woke Warmongers. They are driven by an insatiable Greed for power and they are willing to do whatever they deem is necessary, even the destruction of our freedom to get what they want and to stay in power. I left the Democratic party because it's led by fanatical ideologues who don't believe in Freedom. They don't believe in freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of expression, freedom of religion and the right of every one of us to express ourselves without fear of retribution.” Wake TF UP you freakin idiots! All these people care about is THEMSELVES! Educate yourselves, stop consuming your media from poisoned wells. God help you.
yes, you and every decent person does that. But he had to win over some dumb ones. I don't see how this is anything less than a catastrophe. Let's be honest, trump will be president again and ukraine has now 4 months left to win this war
Misogyny was fine when Bill Clinton was engaged in it. Trump isn't a misogynist. No one on the right has ever accused Trump. Only left wingers who hate him. The difference between Bill and Trump: Trump is accused only by people on the other side, mostly people he has never met. Bill was accused by people who were ON HIS SIDE and that he worked with intimately. The way you know Bill is the real rapist is the fact that he has been accused by friends and allies, not just enemies.
@@automateeverything2341 Well, in a two-party system, voting for the lesser of exactly 2 evils is all that you get. And in this particular one, you often times don't even really have much of a choice for who those 2 people are going to be. Then you have the whole delegates situation, where votes for the minority in entire states doesn't matter at all. So, yeah, it's nothing to be proud of. But it's still the bitter pill (choice) that you're given.
Don’t believe me. Listen to Tulsi Gabbard, speaking from first hand experience (which is more than any of you have). Listen to her describe your slavemasters: “I left the Democratic party because it is led by an elitist cabal of woke Warmongers. They are driven by an insatiable Greed for power and they are willing to do whatever they deem is necessary, even the destruction of our freedom to get what they want and to stay in power. I left the Democratic party because it's led by fanatical ideologues who don't believe in Freedom. They don't believe in freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of expression, freedom of religion and the right of every one of us to express ourselves without fear of retribution.” Wake TF UP you freakin idiots! All these people care about is THEMSELVES! Educate yourselves, stop consuming your media from poisoned wells. God help you.
Dear Vlad, you keep coming back to your "the boat is out of the bay, but we'll survive" allegory. Teleport yourself back to 1932. You may say something similar, -"it'll be a rocky time, but democracy will survive". Fast forward to 1946. Yes, democracy survived, but at what cost? Should we not try, with all our lives now to prevent another 1939, if we can see where this is going? Also, aren't we at risk of coming to a "Fahrenheit 451" situation, where there is no way back to a liberal democracy, when all the cultural / political bridges to the past are burned by post-truth demagogues?
@@petebondurant58He is a danger to NATO and the world economy at the expense, therefore threatening American prosperity, and being second to China. Mueller report proved his secret connection to Putin, who is anti NATO. Putin helped Trump. Trump tries to destabilise NATO, and appeases Putin. The economic damage to America in a 2024 Trmp government is shown in a letter by 16 Nobel prize winning economists.
@@petebondurant58 he is a literal copy of Silvio Berlusconi. Made his money from real estate, went into media and then politics. Got sentenced, temporarily bared from politics, but never went to jail. Same personality; strongman, egomaniac, bombastic, vain and charismatic.
@@Dionysus-gv9lz Berlusconi didn't assassinate an Iranian general. In fact, he was protecting Gaddafi, who was keeping Libya stable. Berlusconi wasn't about to sell out a country to a militarily expansionist neighbour. Berlusconi didn't move the Italian embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, inflaming tensions. Berlusconi didn't peddle nearly the same level of misinformation and hatred as Trump is doing. As far as character, style, and shady dealings are concerned, they are somewhat similar. But that's where it ends, and even there, Trump is way worse. As a German, listening to Trump's 2016 campaign rally speeches was the most Hitlerian experience that I have ever had, safe for listening to actual Hitler speeches. I'm not joking. The way he framed outsides and "others" as the root of all evil with no hesitation, burying groups of people in virulent hatred, was eerie. Berlusconi also didn't try to overthrow an election like Trump did.
I think the best that could happen for the US and the world is if both candidates would pass on before the election - not painful, not horrible deaths, just passing away after very long and privileged lives, so the US would have to look among its 350 million people who would be more suitable candidates.
We would still have old men leading us. We are so far behind the world in which a young person would be able to become president. We still haven’t have a female president yet either.
@@yenlinhtran69 yes, imo a person should not be able to hold a high government office if they are of retirement age - there definitely should be an age limit. They still could mentor, but not make the decisions.
Eutryphon survived the Sicilian Expedition and returned to Athens during the reign of Thirties. When he arrived, he found that justice had gone from his city. As a young man, he had been a student of Socrates. Socrates was braved enough to delay the trial of Leon of Salamine. Eutryphon met Socrates after his month as a bouletes and returning to his farm and his family and shared a dilemma. After having been a slave for nine years, Eutryphon was aghast to see his own father kill one of his slaves. Socrates did his usual bit and gave back Eutryphon some hope. Instead of taking his father to trial for killing his slave, Eutryphon joined the the surviving strategoi at the Piraeus and became one of their leaders. Facing the Spartans and the Thirties, he kept his tribe from running at Munychia. Six of the Athenian tribes wan the battle against their fellow citizens and a large force of Spartans. Eutryphon laid dead across from the leader of Thirties (the account is slightly different from that Xenophon in the Hellenica). The leader of the Piraeus Party restored Democracy, but also voted an amnesty of their enemies. I do not think that Trump will win. At best, forty-three percent of Americans will vote for Trump, while Biden despite his condition will win with about forty-eight. Biden has adequate medication that lasts for twelve hours and has done well when he needed to be. Trust democracy and Biden! For the rest, we will see!
Or Claudius was an under rated emperor. F Roosevelt could not walk. What does one expect from 80 year Olds. Euro angst is premature. The US election began last night. July, August, September, October. I will be happy if Northern and Eastern Europe step up, I will be happy. Germans can historically be too close to Russians. Slava Ukraine. 🇺🇦
The problem with Journalism is also that in the past 20 years biases within the large journalistic institutions have gotten extremer. Dishonest Framing and Selective reporting in order to create or farm drama, has gotten alot worse aswell since the internet came into existence.
Am going to confess to being very irritated at Britons, Europeans, Canadians, Australians, and others who often presume in their on-line posts on social media that they know more and better about Biden, Trump, and my country's politics, especially when they cannot and do not vote here. That's provincialism on my part reacting to provincialism on their parts. That's one of the ways in which democratic decline as you've described over time can and does happen, because once we're squabbling with each other over this, that, and the other, authoritarians can and shall use those divisions to their advantage, and they sure as Hell have. As for Biden going, I don't see that happening, and still support the man. But, if he goes, then I shall still support and vote Democratic in November, because I don't want Trump and the GOP running the country any more than they are on the House, state, and local levels here, and because Trump would be a full-bore authoritarian here, which is where I disagree with your rather anodyne take on him and his potential second presidency here. We can't and don't know precisely what the USA would be like after Trump left the White House, but statements by him and his top supporters, surrogates, and many others, including documents like Project 2025, indicate what they want it to be, and it's not a good one to my mind. I live here, am on government disability and supplement security income, and so, yes, for me, all of this is very personal. I see your point about Trump and company being buffoons compared with guys like Orban, but they are the ones we are facing in the USA now. So, Trump and company must be beaten, but this is, as you pointed out, only one part of a long struggle worldwide, so would agree with you that it ain't going to be easy, quick, or cheap. I'll leave you and the others here on that.
I think most people at this point are either voting for Trump no matter what or they're voting against Trump no matter what. Accordingly, who or what Trump's opponent is in the race is amazingly not important by historical standards. It will have an impact I think on a TINY portion of the electorate who have seen it all with Trump, might still vote for him, yet might also still be persuaded to vote for Biden. That is not very many people. I think basically somewhat apolitical white housewives in the Georgia, Arizona and Pennsylvania suburbs. The vast majority of demographics have made their mind up about this election before it even starts. Last night's debate gives Biden detractors a lot of ammunition for gasbagging but at the end of the day that's all just preaching to the choir type stuff. In much the same way that no standard of behavior is apparently too low for Trump for him to lose his core supporters; no standard of senility is too much for Biden for Trump to pick up any votes from his existing detractors. The battle lines of this election are 98% already drawn, just a TINY fraction are still mobile and likely to ever change their potential vote. At this point in most social circles it's either a Trump group or an anti-Trump group, not a whole lot in between.
I think it’s a very bad problem to blame Trump for this. I think what we’re saying is that the rot started with the Democrat side just as badly into an extent Trump is a reaction as well.. Trump is more a symptom of the problem than that causes of the problem. The zoo accuse Trump. Collective democracy are often themselves guilty.
Right. But that's precisely where the issue lies: the election is decided by the undecided, the people who are not steeped in politics. If they remain apathetic, Biden will lose.
@@ugiswrongCongratulations on being in such a rare and powerful cohort! 😊 I'm honestly curious and would like to respectfully ask you a question or two if you're willing. I perceived Mr. Trump to be an absolute, "to-the-core" pathological liar soon into 2016, and to my eye this became ever more baked into the cake as time passed. Do you consciously not perceive this quality in him, or is it something you're willing to overlook as part of some larger calculation? Second question; the tactic of declaring a narrowly-lost election to be "rigged" and thereby fuel heated push back on the result and whip up lasting distrust in the system has laid there as an un-used option for election losers to resort to all this time -- presumably for reasons of patriotism (Nixon, Gore and Kerry might all have plausibly picked up and used that tool). I was not at all surprised to see Mr. Trump sieze upon it and give it a go in 2020/2021, but now, despite all the investigations and non-evidence, he's still sticking vehemently to that story -- both retrospectively and now prospectively, again. To me, this clenches my sense of him as an absolutely depraved self-serving opportunist, predator even. Again, do you perceive something different in this regard, or is there a conscious reason by which you dismiss such concerns? Thanks.
Vlad, It is possible to have virtual live fact checking. In Ireland, where referendums are a way of life, at the bottom of your tv screen during debates and interviews they had a line, on which fact checking information would appear within minutes and keep a running count! If it was a lie the journalist would question the politician. If they can do it why not the BBC, CNN, etc
One good performance cannot outdo display of serious mental and neurological decline. He not only speaks, walks moves but even stands like a neurologically impaired patient. That would be all right if he was in nursing house but it is a disaster for the White House.
@@MickB52s What about Biden's lies? Well, to be fair, I'm not sure if he even realizes he was lying... Perhaps he simply forgot about the service members who died during his term. Actually, that's even worse. I could continue, but...
@@theuntouchable7277 Great? The pandemic killed way more people than it should have thanks to him dropping the ball hard. Most of the economic policies he "instated" where from Obama and Biden made them bigger, heck Trump even got more illegal migrants in during his term! So no dear Ivan, Trump might be a good showman, but he clearly is as much of a polititian as I am an artist (none).
Thank you very much, Vlad, for the live. I am less hopeful for our sliding democracies after watching it, but not in a bad way. Rather in the direction of strengthening my personal efforts to help slowing down the drift and to help others around me to adjust to our new realities. It is nice to see many people from many countries coming together on your channels, curious enough to engage in exchange. This makes me happy, so thank you, Vlad, for your channels, and for providing comfort and food for thought. Thanks also to our moderators. And thanks to the beautiful community for showing that we care. We can reach out to others and expand. 🤗
My grandparents had more than six children and lived through Kaiser Wilhelm, two world wars, inflation, Hitler's fascism and hunger. My dad came home from WW2 with only one leg and had to take morphium for many years. Just to put things into perspective.
Vlad, you are so very optimistic. From a german point of view the US are in a 1933 election. What is wrong with the system when only 2 unsuitable candidates are at choice?
To be frank, it feels like it would be game over for us here in Taiwan if Trump were to win. Hope they get over the niceties and replace Biden quickly.
I don't see many people denying cognitive decline in JB, or his age, or the fact that he's not ideal as a candidate, But in the case of; these are the 2 choices right now, the back and forth on suitability according to; ....insert issue here.... is regurgitating the bleeding obvious, which we can't change right now, and confusing the bigger picture of where we actually are at this point in political crisis. JB is who he is, he has decades of working for the people. DT is who he is, and has decades of working for himself at the expense of the people. 2 choices, the variables are clear and overstated to the point of confused stasis.
Gaslighting? Democrats have been denying Biden's cognitive decline for years. This debate was a disaster - I think the emperor is now clearly naked and will be replaced soon
**he has decades of working for the people.** The only people JB works for have the last name Biden, specifically his brother and his son. From Iraq to Ukraine to China to reversing a Trump EO so China could buy a Louisiana LNG facility, whenever Joe is charge of making decisions his family benefits financially, many times in sectors they have ZERO experience in, totally just a coincidence.
An older leader who is too softly spoken with very high integrity and a great team is preferable to a loud lying chaotic dictator that would damage stability, rights, and the economy to benefit his narcissistic rule.
Thank you, Vlad. It was a very insightful overview as I've come to expect. The score for me is 8/10 on feeling better. Lots of love to the community as well! We gotta stay strong! The hard part is only now about to start.
The people (a large enough number of them) in Hungary have been eaten by monsters, but from the inside so it still looks like nothing happened. This is happening in Slovakia at the moment and starts happening here in Czechia too. Maybe it can be stopped or even reversed, but it is happening (or has already happened).
At the slim chance that this will be read: At 1:17:00 you ask: You're going to have it better than most generations in history, but you're going to have it worse than the 1-2 generations before you. Can you deal with that? Yes, i can deal with that. But my immediate thought was, what i'm already having trouble dealing with is the 1-2 previous generations refusal to accept that a) they can't just go on having it as good as they are used to. b) the generation after them isn't going to join in that delusion. I feel there is a revolt going on that, at the danger of being condescending, has the character of a 6 year old throwing a temper tantrum, because they don't want to wear the big winter shoes to the winter excursion. And everyone in the room knows that the child will inevitable throw an even bigger tantrum when it's feet are freezing, but it's simply impossible to get this through to the child, because it's locked into the tunnel vision of "I don't want to wear these shoes!" And i'm feeling we as a society are collectively doing what so many families do and let the child wear their summer shoes and just accept the inevitable second explosion. Only this time it means we will all get freezing feet, because the tantrum is about anyone wearing winter shoes. This puts me in a difficult spot, because i am deeply antiauthoritarian and consent oriented. But it gets increasingly hard to dismiss the feeling that self-defense and self-preservation leave me less and less choice than to find a way to say: "Shut your mouth and put on the shoes! I don't care anymore if you cry the whole way." Not that i don't see the huge problem with that, but it's becoming clearer and clearer to me that it's either that or submission to the petulent tantrums of a portion of us and suffering the consequences collectively. How am i supposed to constructively respond to a political modus operandum that does not know compromise? That does not accept my perspective and experience as noteworthy. That demands we submit to its will or they burn it all down. That only knows attack as a way of interaction. I **really** don't want to start responding in kind, but right now, the only alternative seems to be self sacrifice for nothing.
Right now, the population has the power which means that the masses have a way to make changes to our democratic society. Letting go and being anti political by not using your power of voting means that you are kicking the can down the road and your children and grandchildren will have to pay the price for what we’ve done or not done to preserve our democracy. We see that in Russia we see that in China, North Korea as well as many many other countries in the world where the leaders say to themselves, “well the population doesn’t give a toss, so I’ll run things the way I want them to run and they can live with it.” Let’s count how many non democratic society’s in our history have ever worked out in the long run without their country’s descending into chaos and war 🤔
Thank you for taking the time to relativise this situation. Every time I listen to you I almost salivate at your knowledge and eloquence and I always want to learn more. You are a great teacher….
I feel like a big problem the Dems face is that they aren't offering a compelling alternative vision. Instead, they offer some kind of steady-state where nothing significant happens.
When you're an American, more of being the world's boss can be a compelling argument. Rolling out someone who's rolling out isn't reassuring, even to most old people.
Great chat, Vlad. Please, refresh my memory, have you done a video on the origins of post-truth? was Adan Curtus wrong or right, did he not dive deep enough, I'm like it explained at some point...seeing how much I hear ''post-truth' being used now.
Thank you Vlad, your analysis of this unique historical moment is peerless IMO. You have a gift for connecting everyday reality with more abstract analytic frameworks. Take care
Thank you Vlad. You understand US politics probably better than most Americans and definitely better than the average European. People running around screaming "The Sky Is Falling" makes me shake my head. Trump was already President for four years and he did an "OK" job and I would say the same for Biden. Neither were my favorite by far! The US is split nearly equally 40% with Democrats and 40% Republicans and yes both sides {Live In Their Own Bubble}. As an independent I'm the 20% in the middle and vote both ways, for the best candidate up and down the ballot, as I see it. Voting the party lines, in my opinion, is dangerous. Unfortunately, you can't depend on the news media any longer for information as they're tied to one side or the other. the days of Walter Cronkite are gone! I didn't get to watch your whole video yet. Yes, I understand you are on the left, but you're on target with your thoughts. You and I could sit down and have a calm and amiable political conversation and part as friends. Unfortunately, most people are unable to do that and get rapped up in tribalism.
Vlad, we are here bacause we want to hear what you have to say. You are allowed to rant and express whatever moves through your mind. We can always go back and rewiew later the questions that flickered by in the moment. Love you
There were some British journalists who energetically called Johnson out - for one, James O'Brien on LBC. And in the US a tally was kept and published of Trump's compulsive lies, going well into the thousands. But I agree that there's a culture of impotence regarding how to confront post-truth figures.
I'm amazed with the US these days in that so many things seem to be unchangeable, and that anything that has recently changed is so quickly seen as eternal. I reckon that's at least partly why these two old codgers are still around.
For those non-Americans unfamiliar with the context of Obama saying, "Four steps back, five steps forward," it's a reference to the Bo Jangles Step Dance, a tapdance performed by a famous Black dancer during the height of the Jim Crow days (Jim Crow laws were basically apartheit laws.) To the White audience, it seemed like a funny dance up stairs where Mr. Bo Jangles keeps going back down when he wants to go up, but for the Black audience it was a coded message of hope, to not let setbacks stop them from working towards civil rights, because no matter how many times they'd get pushed back, each time they'd still be further ahead than before, even if only by a step. If you don't give up, by going three steps forward for every two steps back, eventually you'll reach the top of the stairs.
who's freaking out? this outcome was 80% predictable - surprising no one talked about, no one prepared anything for it. 3 years ago I had a very sharp yet friendly discussion with a client and friend of mine from LA about Biden, his age and so on... he concluded that being from Europe I cannot grasp the situation in US Democrats has to replace Biden now, I say it with calm
Such great analysis! At one point you distilled it down to Biden has two choices. First is to let his career come down to being the guy who turns democracy over to Trump. OR second, to let his career come down a single debate that made him choose to step aside to not let democracy be turned over Trump…. Shit choices really. No wonder the Dems are circling the wagons to buy some time to get a plan together. Fascinating.
Yes, he should go. We got an old guy as a president called Kekkonen. At the end it was so embarrassing when he shaked hands with hes adjutents on official meeting when he didnt recoginize the state visitors from his helpers.
Good pointa about being in bubbles and gaslighting. Part of the reason I'm here is because I don't want to be in a bubble, and here I can hear views contrary to my own. As far as gaslighting goes, this applies to almost everyone because you can fool all of the people some of time and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool anyone the way you can fool yourself.
It's the NATO question that worries me, if USA drops out will Turkey stay? Ho else will leave. Will we go back to a world of empires, slavery & oppression
Billy Graham was very influential in Christianity in Korea and other countries nearby like Vietnam. There are documentaries about the Korean Billy Kim, who they say was the Korean Billy Graham. He stood on stage beside him to translate Graham’s speeches. He made the Korean translation so powerful emotionally, he was starting to leave the role of translator to deliver his own presentation. Billy Graham’s set of beliefs, his style, his position on culture and politics is reflected in how Korea and Vietnam and others live out their faith. Back in the southern US, Mr Graham’s views not only reflected Christians around him, these views influenced the rest of the US and Canada in his time. This is a foundation on which present day Christianity rests and grew from, including this political base of support for Trump.
One would anticipate someone with a long track record of lying even moment to moment, who was demonstrably putting his own interests first, that track record ought to be enough to push him out of politics. Trump not only resists this but has the backing of church leaders, who we assumed were paragons of truth.
Thanks Vlad, I needed this more than I realised and will keep coming back to it when I need perspective Sometimes i forgot you were talking about politics so much also applied to the decline of my dating life lol 10/10 💕
I'm a Trump leaning American who really appreciates your insights Vlad - the quote "reflexively live in your bubble without being blinded by your bubble" was a gem.
@@dale6947 It's the epitome of irony (dare I say serendipitous?) that the self-righteous crowd preaching 'preserve democracy,' while smugly wagging their fingers at the rest of us, has entirely created this mess by not holding a proper primary election. Poetic.
I see people raving about how good his rally was today after the debate debacle. Joe sorta looks like someone roaring back to life with smelling salts after being knocked out in a boxing match
@@theuntouchable7277 no sane person would be ready to embrace MAGA. The guy is going to sacrifice Ukrainian lives and might even trigger ww3 by encouraging Putin or Xi which would obviously lead to American servicemen falling.
@@theuntouchable7277 no sane person would embrace another Trump term now. It's going to increase the risk of wider war Americans in the end would also need to directly participate in.
Added response tells me people appreciate an honest show of some weakness more convincing than nonStop lies and bluster.. A strong alternative follow through to also display strength reserves very helpful. People can relate.
Several hours ahead of the debate I encountered a TH-cam ads/survey that simply asked if I had a positive image of: ▪️ Donald Trump ▪️ Kamela Harris ✅ Neither
What politician do people fantasize is going to swoop in and save the day? Think it through, people. Any name we come up with looks like a guaranteed loser, even if this process happened 6 or 8 months ago.
I kinda agree but with one bigger issue I'm not so sure about. Democracy doesn't just decline gradually, you just have to look at what happened in Germany in the 30s and even Russia since 2012 to see how quickly democracy can disappear.
@@miriambaines1472 this is a braindead take completely ignoring any historical context of any country or culture. I think it can be argued that germans haven't really grasped democracy to this very day, while russians never really had a chance to begin with.
I don't think Biden should be allowed to run again. While I don't think his performance was AS bad as the media report now that i've seen the debate, I do believe if he gets back in he will just be the front for whoever controls him behind the scenes.
11:30 one of the things which youve allowed to see is that the people catastrophising are often also the people who think that if you just fix one thing, win one election, then we can go back to "normal" and democracy will be saved. They are constantly over emphasing the importance of the thing closest to hand, its make or break, rather than being one data point in an overall trend.
People don't vote for a VP. People will vote AGAINST a VP who's been vilified, but they won't vote for one... except sometimes a popular VP can swing their home state. I think Biden is so far from being 1 state away that a change of VP won't solve the real problem.
If this metaphorical ship is indeed still a ship and not a life raft, then we are driving it so we can slow it down, turn towards one of those islands at the exit of the bay, drop the anker there and enjoy a nice cocktail in the sun. 😊
Vlad, I think I understand and concur with your reasoning regarding rough waters ahead for democracies, but I do wonder if your thinking on the global balancing point changes at all if some of the various predictions around demographic collapse, and hence severe societal disruption, come to pass for Russia and China over the next ~20 years. The same challenges are theorized to apply to other nations such as Italy and South Korea too, but these are significantly richer countries per-capita with, I hope, more degrees of freedom to explore in fashioning adaptive measures (as Japan has ably demonstrated to the world). This thorny issue also looms large for poor, struggling Ukraine -- hence mass-scale organized stealing of children by Russia as part of their international crime wave.
Is this defeatism predicated on the stupidity of American voters? ... and therefore the stupidity of democracy? I am very interested to see this test of democracy... I mean, if we lose, what really have we lost? I hate everything about this trump phenomenon , so it's hard for me to put this thought out there.
There’s nothing to freak out about 🤦♂️ folks are unnecessarily stressing out over something that is not important, one guy kept not answering questions and the other guy answered questions (with the stutter he’s always had since youth) and answered with detail that makes an American realize (by our surroundings in our own towns) that it is truth
This "he didn't answer" take is a HUGE cope being propagated by the media to give the left something to desperately grasp onto, but it's not based on reality. He may not have answered the way YOU wanted, but he did answer, he just used some of his time to follow up on previous questions and Biden's previous responses.
USA is less and less important, EU needs to look out for itself and stop sending money to the US, we need to tax Google/Facebook/Amazon/Microsoft/Apple properly
@@kulman4295 Actually, the USA is more important now for EU than it was 20 years ago because there is a real and active threat in Europe... Russia. Hence why Europeans are so worried about Trump.
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Only Vlad, with his soothing pastoral tenor, could calm us down with the message:
"Relax, the worst is yet to come"
😂
:D.
His anglo middle name is probably Murphy
Dems, we have done this to ourselves. We got too comfortable fighting gaslighting with gaslighting….
Don’t believe me. Listen to Tulsi Gabbard, speaking from first hand experience (which is more than any of you have). Listen to her describe your slavemasters: “I left the Democratic party because it is led by an elitist cabal of woke Warmongers. They are driven by an insatiable Greed for power and they are willing to do whatever they deem is necessary, even the destruction of our freedom to get what they want and to stay in power. I left the Democratic party because it's led by fanatical ideologues who don't believe in Freedom. They don't believe in freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of expression, freedom of religion and the right of every one of us to express ourselves without fear of retribution.” Wake TF UP you freakin idiots! All these people care about is THEMSELVES! Educate yourselves, stop consuming your media from poisoned wells. God help you.
The democrat party is the party of gaslighting as you put it. There is no lie they won't tell to gain power. For example, they will with a straight face tell you men can be women.
Yep. I've been saying that the gaslighting on the economy is what's hurting Biden the most.
No. Shut up with the bullshit. Trump is a dictator terorist maniac. And his perfect hiring shit on him.
Biden has some minor flaws but he hires people who are exceptionally capable.
If you touch the turd of Trump you are going to smell of it.
Spot on. And nobody should ever have been fighting anything with gaslighting.
I live in Bulgaria and the Victor Orban type is already here. They already started talking about changing our political system to a presidential republic. With Russian propaganda being so effective here, it's getting scary for our fragile democracy.
It's the epitome of irony (dare I say serendipitous?) that the self-righteous crowd preaching 'preserve democracy, democracy, democracy,' while smugly wagging their fingers at the rest of us, has entirely created this mess themselves by not holding a proper primary election. Poetic.
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Books mentioned by Vlad in his talk today:
How we live with difference in an increasingly polarised world also covered in Jason Blakely's book:
Lost in Ideology: Interpreting Modern Political Life Paperback - March 26, 2024
Charles Taylor's book:
Reconstructing Democracy: How Citizens Are Building from the Ground Up Hardcover - March 17, 2020
Literature on Democratic Regeneration, covered in Jonathan Lear's book:
Radical Hope: Ethics in the Face of Cultural Devastation Paperback - April 30, 2008
Music and the Mind by Storr, Anthony
ISBN 10: 000215398X / ISBN 13: 9780002153980
Published by Ballantine Books, 1992
I think this is accurate, my hearing isn't so great.
Thank you.
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Thank you
Thanks! ❤
Do I choose fleeting fragility over misogyny and lies? As Joe says, "You bet!"
Thats the problem, any thinking liberal would in a heartbeat. But that's not the demographic of the US electorate. Trump was ahead in most of the polls even before the debate despite being a convicted felon and that his last stint in office ended with a failed coup.
Don’t beleive me. Listen to Tulsi Gabbard, speaking from first hand experience (which is more than any of you have). Listen to her describe your slavemasters: “I left the Democratic party because it is led by an elitist cabal of woke Warmongers. They are driven by an insatiable Greed for power and they are willing to do whatever they deem is necessary, even the destruction of our freedom to get what they want and to stay in power. I left the Democratic party because it's led by fanatical ideologues who don't believe in Freedom. They don't believe in freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of expression, freedom of religion and the right of every one of us to express ourselves without fear of retribution.” Wake TF UP you freakin idiots! All these people care about is THEMSELVES! Educate yourselves, stop consuming your media from poisoned wells. God help you.
yes, you and every decent person does that. But he had to win over some dumb ones.
I don't see how this is anything less than a catastrophe. Let's be honest, trump will be president again and ukraine has now 4 months left to win this war
@@comicipedia💯
Misogyny was fine when Bill Clinton was engaged in it. Trump isn't a misogynist. No one on the right has ever accused Trump. Only left wingers who hate him.
The difference between Bill and Trump: Trump is accused only by people on the other side, mostly people he has never met. Bill was accused by people who were ON HIS SIDE and that he worked with intimately. The way you know Bill is the real rapist is the fact that he has been accused by friends and allies, not just enemies.
I'll vote for Grandpa Biden every day of the week over Trump! Voting Blue Voting Grandpa Biden!
you say that as though its something to be proud of....although admittedly, tone doesn't translate well through text so I could be wrong.
@@automateeverything2341 Well, in a two-party system, voting for the lesser of exactly 2 evils is all that you get. And in this particular one, you often times don't even really have much of a choice for who those 2 people are going to be. Then you have the whole delegates situation, where votes for the minority in entire states doesn't matter at all.
So, yeah, it's nothing to be proud of. But it's still the bitter pill (choice) that you're given.
yup morals wont matter when trump walks into the white house.
YOU might vote for “Grandpa Biden” but will a majority of US voters?
Don’t believe me. Listen to Tulsi Gabbard, speaking from first hand experience (which is more than any of you have). Listen to her describe your slavemasters: “I left the Democratic party because it is led by an elitist cabal of woke Warmongers. They are driven by an insatiable Greed for power and they are willing to do whatever they deem is necessary, even the destruction of our freedom to get what they want and to stay in power. I left the Democratic party because it's led by fanatical ideologues who don't believe in Freedom. They don't believe in freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of expression, freedom of religion and the right of every one of us to express ourselves without fear of retribution.” Wake TF UP you freakin idiots! All these people care about is THEMSELVES! Educate yourselves, stop consuming your media from poisoned wells. God help you.
The question is not, should Biden go, but will he do the right thing?
Dear Vlad, you keep coming back to your "the boat is out of the bay, but we'll survive" allegory. Teleport yourself back to 1932. You may say something similar, -"it'll be a rocky time, but democracy will survive". Fast forward to 1946. Yes, democracy survived, but at what cost? Should we not try, with all our lives now to prevent another 1939, if we can see where this is going? Also, aren't we at risk of coming to a "Fahrenheit 451" situation, where there is no way back to a liberal democracy, when all the cultural / political bridges to the past are burned by post-truth demagogues?
Your analysis is correct. The sun is setting over the republic ushering in a time of political dynasties.
@ulrichfischer873
When you are essentially calling Donald Trump ‘Hitler,’ you have lost the debate. He’s Berlusconi, maybe.
@@petebondurant58He is a danger to NATO and the world economy at the expense, therefore threatening American prosperity, and being second to China.
Mueller report proved his secret connection to Putin, who is anti NATO. Putin helped Trump. Trump tries to destabilise NATO, and appeases Putin.
The economic damage to America in a 2024 Trmp government is shown in a letter by 16 Nobel prize winning economists.
@@petebondurant58 he is a literal copy of Silvio Berlusconi. Made his money from real estate, went into media and then politics. Got sentenced, temporarily bared from politics, but never went to jail. Same personality; strongman, egomaniac, bombastic, vain and charismatic.
@@Dionysus-gv9lz Berlusconi didn't assassinate an Iranian general. In fact, he was protecting Gaddafi, who was keeping Libya stable.
Berlusconi wasn't about to sell out a country to a militarily expansionist neighbour.
Berlusconi didn't move the Italian embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, inflaming tensions.
Berlusconi didn't peddle nearly the same level of misinformation and hatred as Trump is doing.
As far as character, style, and shady dealings are concerned, they are somewhat similar. But that's where it ends, and even there, Trump is way worse.
As a German, listening to Trump's 2016 campaign rally speeches was the most Hitlerian experience that I have ever had, safe for listening to actual Hitler speeches. I'm not joking. The way he framed outsides and "others" as the root of all evil with no hesitation, burying groups of people in virulent hatred, was eerie.
Berlusconi also didn't try to overthrow an election like Trump did.
I think you should at least temporarily put this one out on the main channel as well. Cheers for keeping me sane, Vlad.❤
I think the best that could happen for the US and the world is if both candidates would pass on before the election - not painful, not horrible deaths, just passing away after very long and privileged lives, so the US would have to look among its 350 million people who would be more suitable candidates.
We would still have old men leading us. We are so far behind the world in which a young person would be able to become president. We still haven’t have a female president yet either.
@@yenlinhtran69 yes, imo a person should not be able to hold a high government office if they are of retirement age - there definitely should be an age limit. They still could mentor, but not make the decisions.
Eutryphon survived the Sicilian Expedition and returned to Athens during the reign of Thirties. When he arrived, he found that justice had gone from his city. As a young man, he had been a student of Socrates. Socrates was braved enough to delay the trial of Leon of Salamine. Eutryphon met Socrates after his month as a bouletes and returning to his farm and his family and shared a dilemma. After having been a slave for nine years, Eutryphon was aghast to see his own father kill one of his slaves. Socrates did his usual bit and gave back Eutryphon some hope. Instead of taking his father to trial for killing his slave, Eutryphon joined the the surviving strategoi at the Piraeus and became one of their leaders. Facing the Spartans and the Thirties, he kept his tribe from running at Munychia. Six of the Athenian tribes wan the battle against their fellow citizens and a large force of Spartans. Eutryphon laid dead across from the leader of Thirties (the account is slightly different from that Xenophon in the Hellenica). The leader of the Piraeus Party restored Democracy, but also voted an amnesty of their enemies. I do not think that Trump will win. At best, forty-three percent of Americans will vote for Trump, while Biden despite his condition will win with about forty-eight. Biden has adequate medication that lasts for twelve hours and has done well when he needed to be. Trust democracy and Biden! For the rest, we will see!
Or Claudius was an under rated emperor. F Roosevelt could not walk. What does one expect from 80 year Olds. Euro angst is premature. The US election began last night. July, August, September, October. I will be happy if Northern and Eastern Europe step up, I will be happy. Germans can historically be too close to Russians. Slava Ukraine. 🇺🇦
@jean-lucgauville3656 🫶 great comment, thank you!
The problem with Journalism is also that in the past 20 years biases within the large journalistic institutions have gotten extremer. Dishonest Framing and Selective reporting in order to create or farm drama, has gotten alot worse aswell since the internet came into existence.
I have to say, you have saved me tons of money that I would otherwise have to pay to a psychiatrist!
Am going to confess to being very irritated at Britons, Europeans, Canadians, Australians, and others who often presume in their on-line posts on social media that they know more and better about Biden, Trump, and my country's politics, especially when they cannot and do not vote here. That's provincialism on my part reacting to provincialism on their parts. That's one of the ways in which democratic decline as you've described over time can and does happen, because once we're squabbling with each other over this, that, and the other, authoritarians can and shall use those divisions to their advantage, and they sure as Hell have. As for Biden going, I don't see that happening, and still support the man. But, if he goes, then I shall still support and vote Democratic in November, because I don't want Trump and the GOP running the country any more than they are on the House, state, and local levels here, and because Trump would be a full-bore authoritarian here, which is where I disagree with your rather anodyne take on him and his potential second presidency here. We can't and don't know precisely what the USA would be like after Trump left the White House, but statements by him and his top supporters, surrogates, and many others, including documents like Project 2025, indicate what they want it to be, and it's not a good one to my mind. I live here, am on government disability and supplement security income, and so, yes, for me, all of this is very personal. I see your point about Trump and company being buffoons compared with guys like Orban, but they are the ones we are facing in the USA now. So, Trump and company must be beaten, but this is, as you pointed out, only one part of a long struggle worldwide, so would agree with you that it ain't going to be easy, quick, or cheap. I'll leave you and the others here on that.
I seriously doubt Trump getting elected will effect your check. But if Biden doesnt sure up the currency and pay on the debt that sure will
There’s only one way trump is defeated now. Another candidate
You lost me at supporting Biden. Lord have mercy
Try not to be too irritated and please bear in mind that we also care about our own democracies and the damage yours is doing to them.
@@raycambridge8950 take responsibility for your own democracy.
Thank you Vlad. A responsible and informative conversation. Thank you for trying to get people to face reality.
I think most people at this point are either voting for Trump no matter what or they're voting against Trump no matter what. Accordingly, who or what Trump's opponent is in the race is amazingly not important by historical standards. It will have an impact I think on a TINY portion of the electorate who have seen it all with Trump, might still vote for him, yet might also still be persuaded to vote for Biden. That is not very many people. I think basically somewhat apolitical white housewives in the Georgia, Arizona and Pennsylvania suburbs. The vast majority of demographics have made their mind up about this election before it even starts. Last night's debate gives Biden detractors a lot of ammunition for gasbagging but at the end of the day that's all just preaching to the choir type stuff. In much the same way that no standard of behavior is apparently too low for Trump for him to lose his core supporters; no standard of senility is too much for Biden for Trump to pick up any votes from his existing detractors. The battle lines of this election are 98% already drawn, just a TINY fraction are still mobile and likely to ever change their potential vote. At this point in most social circles it's either a Trump group or an anti-Trump group, not a whole lot in between.
The swing states can swing the election with tiny margins
I think it’s a very bad problem to blame Trump for this. I think what we’re saying is that the rot started with the Democrat side just as badly into an extent Trump is a reaction as well.. Trump is more a symptom of the problem than that causes of the problem. The zoo accuse Trump. Collective democracy are often themselves guilty.
Right. But that's precisely where the issue lies: the election is decided by the undecided, the people who are not steeped in politics. If they remain apathetic, Biden will lose.
I’m undecided!
@@ugiswrongCongratulations on being in such a rare and powerful cohort! 😊 I'm honestly curious and would like to respectfully ask you a question or two if you're willing. I perceived Mr. Trump to be an absolute, "to-the-core" pathological liar soon into 2016, and to my eye this became ever more baked into the cake as time passed. Do you consciously not perceive this quality in him, or is it something you're willing to overlook as part of some larger calculation? Second question; the tactic of declaring a narrowly-lost election to be "rigged" and thereby fuel heated push back on the result and whip up lasting distrust in the system has laid there as an un-used option for election losers to resort to all this time -- presumably for reasons of patriotism (Nixon, Gore and Kerry might all have plausibly picked up and used that tool). I was not at all surprised to see Mr. Trump sieze upon it and give it a go in 2020/2021, but now, despite all the investigations and non-evidence, he's still sticking vehemently to that story -- both retrospectively and now prospectively, again. To me, this clenches my sense of him as an absolutely depraved self-serving opportunist, predator even. Again, do you perceive something different in this regard, or is there a conscious reason by which you dismiss such concerns? Thanks.
Vlad, It is possible to have virtual live fact checking. In Ireland, where referendums are a way of life, at the bottom of your tv screen during debates and interviews they had a line, on which fact checking information would appear within minutes and keep a running count! If it was a lie the journalist would question the politician. If they can do it why not the BBC, CNN, etc
Who checks the fact checkers…the BBC fact checkers during Covid were a significant part of the problem.
I wish the North Carolina Joe had showed up to the debate.
He was amazingly GREAT at the North Carolina rally *today* 🌊🔱We will be fine if Kamala has to take Biden's place
He couldn't use a telepromter at the debate.
The debate had the lowest rating in years. Meanwhile, the people in North Carolina are real voters. What's more important?
Joe absolutely nailed it yesterday, quit it with the zrada
One good performance cannot outdo display of serious mental and neurological decline.
He not only speaks, walks moves but even stands like a neurologically impaired patient.
That would be all right if he was in nursing house but it is a disaster for the White House.
Thank you, Vlad, for reducing the moral panic that I found myself overcome with today.
Another Vlad
Moral panic? But why?
Trump is exactly what we need in America. We truly do have enough of globalism. MAGA!
@@theuntouchable7277 lies really are great for the confidence of a Nation.Lol...He should stick to Golf !!!
@@MickB52s Well, he did great 1st time around and he will do fine this time again.
@@MickB52s What about Biden's lies? Well, to be fair, I'm not sure if he even realizes he was lying... Perhaps he simply forgot about the service members who died during his term. Actually, that's even worse. I could continue, but...
@@theuntouchable7277 Great? The pandemic killed way more people than it should have thanks to him dropping the ball hard. Most of the economic policies he "instated" where from Obama and Biden made them bigger, heck Trump even got more illegal migrants in during his term! So no dear Ivan, Trump might be a good showman, but he clearly is as much of a polititian as I am an artist (none).
Listening to Vlad speak is like eating greens - not always palatable, but necessary and nourishing. Thank you for your contribution Vlad.
sickening fanboi
@@Rain-xe5vrwhatever dude.
@@Rain-xe5vr seethe
Thank you very much, Vlad, for the live. I am less hopeful for our sliding democracies after watching it, but not in a bad way. Rather in the direction of strengthening my personal efforts to help slowing down the drift and to help others around me to adjust to our new realities. It is nice to see many people from many countries coming together on your channels, curious enough to engage in exchange. This makes me happy, so thank you, Vlad, for your channels, and for providing comfort and food for thought. Thanks also to our moderators. And thanks to the beautiful community for showing that we care. We can reach out to others and expand. 🤗
My grandparents had more than six children and lived through Kaiser Wilhelm, two world wars, inflation, Hitler's fascism and hunger.
My dad came home from WW2 with only one leg and had to take morphium for many years.
Just to put things into perspective.
Vlad, you are so very optimistic. From a german point of view the US are in a 1933 election. What is wrong with the system when only 2 unsuitable candidates are at choice?
I have no words but thank you
If Biden was in a wheelchair with a tablet to translate his thoughts, I would still vote for him.
What thoughts, please listen to your self - what an insane statement.
Demand a candidate who is not senile!
So Biden is the best that democrats have?
Then you are a fool.
@@atheistbushmanOr....demand that boomers construct succession strategies that don't require every person for themselves, winner take all, contests.
@@atheistbushmanStephen Hawking would have fit that description and certainly would have had the intellectual capacity.
To be frank, it feels like it would be game over for us here in Taiwan if Trump were to win. Hope they get over the niceties and replace Biden quickly.
I don't see many people denying cognitive decline in JB, or his age, or the fact that he's not ideal as a candidate,
But in the case of; these are the 2 choices right now, the back and forth on suitability according to; ....insert issue here.... is regurgitating the bleeding obvious, which we can't change right now, and confusing the bigger picture of where we actually are at this point in political crisis.
JB is who he is, he has decades of working for the people.
DT is who he is, and has decades of working for himself at the expense of the people.
2 choices, the variables are clear and overstated to the point of confused stasis.
Gaslighting?
Democrats have been denying Biden's cognitive decline for years.
This debate was a disaster - I think the emperor is now clearly naked and will be replaced soon
**he has decades of working for the people.**
The only people JB works for have the last name Biden, specifically his brother and his son. From Iraq to Ukraine to China to reversing a Trump EO so China could buy a Louisiana LNG facility, whenever Joe is charge of making decisions his family benefits financially, many times in sectors they have ZERO experience in, totally just a coincidence.
An older leader who is too softly spoken with very high integrity and a great team is preferable to a loud lying chaotic dictator that would damage stability, rights, and the economy to benefit his narcissistic rule.
@@bardsamok9221 Absolutely!
Age related cognitive decline, like age, goes in one direction only.
Trump - Hell no
Biden - Oh no
Young healthy candidate - OH HELL YES
Between you, Vlad, and Jake Broe, I feel much better. Thank you! 🌻
Thank you, Vlad. It was a very insightful overview as I've come to expect. The score for me is 8/10 on feeling better. Lots of love to the community as well! We gotta stay strong! The hard part is only now about to start.
The people (a large enough number of them) in Hungary have been eaten by monsters, but from the inside so it still looks like nothing happened. This is happening in Slovakia at the moment and starts happening here in Czechia too. Maybe it can be stopped or even reversed, but it is happening (or has already happened).
At the slim chance that this will be read:
At 1:17:00 you ask: You're going to have it better than most generations in history, but you're going to have it worse than the 1-2 generations before you. Can you deal with that?
Yes, i can deal with that.
But my immediate thought was, what i'm already having trouble dealing with is the 1-2 previous generations refusal to accept that
a) they can't just go on having it as good as they are used to.
b) the generation after them isn't going to join in that delusion.
I feel there is a revolt going on that, at the danger of being condescending, has the character of a 6 year old throwing a temper tantrum, because they don't want to wear the big winter shoes to the winter excursion. And everyone in the room knows that the child will inevitable throw an even bigger tantrum when it's feet are freezing, but it's simply impossible to get this through to the child, because it's locked into the tunnel vision of "I don't want to wear these shoes!"
And i'm feeling we as a society are collectively doing what so many families do and let the child wear their summer shoes and just accept the inevitable second explosion. Only this time it means we will all get freezing feet, because the tantrum is about anyone wearing winter shoes.
This puts me in a difficult spot, because i am deeply antiauthoritarian and consent oriented. But it gets increasingly hard to dismiss the feeling that self-defense and self-preservation leave me less and less choice than to find a way to say: "Shut your mouth and put on the shoes! I don't care anymore if you cry the whole way." Not that i don't see the huge problem with that, but it's becoming clearer and clearer to me that it's either that or submission to the petulent tantrums of a portion of us and suffering the consequences collectively.
How am i supposed to constructively respond to a political modus operandum that does not know compromise? That does not accept my perspective and experience as noteworthy. That demands we submit to its will or they burn it all down. That only knows attack as a way of interaction.
I **really** don't want to start responding in kind, but right now, the only alternative seems to be self sacrifice for nothing.
Very grateful for this - brilliantly put, and brought me out of denial. PS: Oh yes, Anthony Storr.
Thank you!!
The analysis of the Russian invasion of Ukraine should have happened in 2019, 2020, 2021, not in 2022.
Im in panic mode I understand that we shouldn't freak out. However im extremely worried. I feel powerless.
"Your powers are weak old man."
That look that Obi Wan gives Luke as he duels The Dark Lord. Obi Wan knew it was time to pass the torch.
Well as a guy in his teens my midlife crisis came 20 years too early today and I have no hope of a happy life going forward
Right now, the population has the power which means that the masses have a way to make changes to our democratic society. Letting go and being anti political by not using your power of voting means that you are kicking the can down the road and your children and grandchildren will have to pay the price for what we’ve done or not done to preserve our democracy. We see that in Russia we see that in China, North Korea as well as many many other countries in the world where the leaders say to themselves, “well the population doesn’t give a toss, so I’ll run things the way I want them to run and they can live with it.” Let’s count how many non democratic society’s in our history have ever worked out in the long run without their country’s descending into chaos and war 🤔
This chat was so usegul to get a few different point of views. Much appreciated in our days.
Thank you for taking the time to relativise this situation. Every time I listen to you I almost salivate at your knowledge and eloquence and I always want to learn more. You are a great teacher….
When all things go south you have Vlad Vexler to make the insanity into sanity… whatever you do don’t panic or listen to Vlad
I feel like a big problem the Dems face is that they aren't offering a compelling alternative vision.
Instead, they offer some kind of steady-state where nothing significant happens.
Homeless. Addicted. Elites and then slaves to banks and taxes.
When you're an American, more of being the world's boss can be a compelling argument. Rolling out someone who's rolling out isn't reassuring, even to most old people.
Thanks for this ❤️
You're so welcome!
Great chat, Vlad. Please, refresh my memory, have you done a video on the origins of post-truth? was Adan Curtus wrong or right, did he not dive deep enough, I'm like it explained at some point...seeing how much I hear ''post-truth' being used now.
Thank you Vlad, your analysis of this unique historical moment is peerless IMO. You have a gift for connecting everyday reality with more abstract analytic frameworks. Take care
Excellent commentary. Thank you.
It's easy to say casually that some countries will go when you can be pretty sure it's not your country and your sons on the line.
Thank you Vlad. You understand US politics probably better than most Americans and definitely better than the average European. People running around screaming "The Sky Is Falling" makes me shake my head. Trump was already President for four years and he did an "OK" job and I would say the same for Biden. Neither were my favorite by far! The US is split nearly equally 40% with Democrats and 40% Republicans and yes both sides {Live In Their Own Bubble}. As an independent I'm the 20% in the middle and vote both ways, for the best candidate up and down the ballot, as I see it. Voting the party lines, in my opinion, is dangerous. Unfortunately, you can't depend on the news media any longer for information as they're tied to one side or the other. the days of Walter Cronkite are gone! I didn't get to watch your whole video yet. Yes, I understand you are on the left, but you're on target with your thoughts. You and I could sit down and have a calm and amiable political conversation and part as friends. Unfortunately, most people are unable to do that and get rapped up in tribalism.
Vlad, we are here bacause we want to hear what you have to say. You are allowed to rant and express whatever moves through your mind. We can always go back and rewiew later the questions that flickered by in the moment. Love you
"Acceptance is important, but also a dance between acceptance and refusal to accept is also important too." . :)
I can see and hear you. I am waiting! Can't wait!
There were some British journalists who energetically called Johnson out - for one, James O'Brien on LBC. And in the US a tally was kept and published of Trump's compulsive lies, going well into the thousands. But I agree that there's a culture of impotence regarding how to confront post-truth figures.
I'm freaking out. Hi everybody.
Thank you a million times ❤
I'm amazed with the US these days in that so many things seem to be unchangeable, and that anything that has recently changed is so quickly seen as eternal. I reckon that's at least partly why these two old codgers are still around.
For those non-Americans unfamiliar with the context of Obama saying, "Four steps back, five steps forward," it's a reference to the Bo Jangles Step Dance, a tapdance performed by a famous Black dancer during the height of the Jim Crow days (Jim Crow laws were basically apartheit laws.) To the White audience, it seemed like a funny dance up stairs where Mr. Bo Jangles keeps going back down when he wants to go up, but for the Black audience it was a coded message of hope, to not let setbacks stop them from working towards civil rights, because no matter how many times they'd get pushed back, each time they'd still be further ahead than before, even if only by a step. If you don't give up, by going three steps forward for every two steps back, eventually you'll reach the top of the stairs.
Very helpful and well placed, thank you!
Thank you Vlad.
Ideally, before the batters begin to chip away and stack up bases, you pull the pitcher. Even if they were the star of the game…
who's freaking out? this outcome was 80% predictable - surprising no one talked about, no one prepared anything for it. 3 years ago I had a very sharp yet friendly discussion with a client and friend of mine from LA about Biden, his age and so on... he concluded that being from Europe I cannot grasp the situation in US
Democrats has to replace Biden now, I say it with calm
Such great analysis! At one point you distilled it down to Biden has two choices. First is to let his career come down to being the guy who turns democracy over to Trump. OR second, to let his career come down a single debate that made him choose to step aside to not let democracy be turned over Trump…. Shit choices really. No wonder the Dems are circling the wagons to buy some time to get a plan together. Fascinating.
This happens when you have two parties that place loyalty to the party above everything else. It is only one party more than Russia.
Yes, he should go. We got an old guy as a president called Kekkonen. At the end it was so embarrassing when he shaked hands with hes adjutents on official meeting when he didnt recoginize the state visitors from his helpers.
Poor Vlad doing damage control. I respect you my friend!
Thanks Vlad.
Good pointa about being in bubbles and gaslighting. Part of the reason I'm here is because I don't want to be in a bubble, and here I can hear views contrary to my own. As far as gaslighting goes, this applies to almost everyone because you can fool all of the people some of time and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool anyone the way you can fool yourself.
There’s no chance Joe just got stage fright and had a bad night?
Alfred may be old but we shouldn’t put The Joker in charge of the Batcave
This sounds like a post-election analysis, hahaha, but I appreciate how calmly he has provided his point of view. Well done, Vlad.
Joe should go.
So should Chump.
It's the NATO question that worries me, if USA drops out will Turkey stay? Ho else will leave.
Will we go back to a world of empires, slavery & oppression
Billy Graham was very influential in Christianity in Korea and other countries nearby like Vietnam. There are documentaries about the Korean Billy Kim, who they say was the Korean Billy Graham. He stood on stage beside him to translate Graham’s speeches. He made the Korean translation so powerful emotionally, he was starting to leave the role of translator to deliver his own presentation. Billy Graham’s set of beliefs, his style, his position on culture and politics is reflected in how Korea and Vietnam and others live out their faith.
Back in the southern US, Mr Graham’s views not only reflected Christians around him, these views influenced the rest of the US and Canada in his time. This is a foundation on which present day Christianity rests and grew from, including this political base of support for Trump.
One would anticipate someone with a long track record of lying even moment to moment, who was demonstrably putting his own interests first, that track record ought to be enough to push him out of politics. Trump not only resists this but has the backing of church leaders, who we assumed were paragons of truth.
I guess the generations coming out of this decade will be very different from those who came into it.
Fujiyama was just an state funded research who just didn't get the reality back then
Thanks Vlad, I needed this more than I realised and will keep coming back to it when I need perspective
Sometimes i forgot you were talking about politics so much also applied to the decline of my dating life lol 10/10 💕
And so Vlad you can adjust your schedule around your health. Not everyone can. You are correct. This will be an ongoing issue over the next decade.
I'm a Trump leaning American who really appreciates your insights Vlad - the quote "reflexively live in your bubble without being blinded by your bubble" was a gem.
If only his audience took that advice. I enjoying listening to Vlad but the delusion in this comment sections is a bit jarring.
I feel quite sorry for his audience, most are really not taking this well. Others are simply delusional.
@@dale6947 It's the epitome of irony (dare I say serendipitous?) that the self-righteous crowd preaching 'preserve democracy,' while smugly wagging their fingers at the rest of us, has entirely created this mess by not holding a proper primary election. Poetic.
I cannot indulge in such defeatism.
I see people raving about how good his rally was today after the debate debacle.
Joe sorta looks like someone roaring back to life with smelling salts after being knocked out in a boxing match
Back to his normal self, yes, he seems to be feeling better today. trump is being his rambling about Hannibal self today in VA.
Are you looking for a part-time president that can occasionally make sense or someone that can stay coherent for the next 4.5 years?
@@theuntouchable7277 no sane person would be ready to embrace MAGA. The guy is going to sacrifice Ukrainian lives and might even trigger ww3 by encouraging Putin or Xi which would obviously lead to American servicemen falling.
@@theuntouchable7277 no sane person would embrace another Trump term now. It's going to increase the risk of wider war Americans in the end would also need to directly participate in.
@@TrineDaely Are you fine with these 2 idiots running for President?
I have faith in the American people that even if Trump is elected, he won't be able to end democracy by himself
Project 2025
Added response tells me people appreciate an honest show of some weakness more convincing than nonStop lies and bluster.. A strong alternative follow through to also display strength reserves very helpful. People can relate.
seven out of ten, if you ask about how this chat went. Good points as always.
Several hours ahead of the debate I encountered a TH-cam ads/survey that simply asked if I had a positive image of:
▪️ Donald Trump
▪️ Kamela Harris
✅ Neither
Bedankt
Thanks so much!
8.5 out of 10... 😊Thank you so much Vlad
What politician do people fantasize is going to swoop in and save the day? Think it through, people. Any name we come up with looks like a guaranteed loser, even if this process happened 6 or 8 months ago.
I can hear and see you.
I kinda agree but with one bigger issue I'm not so sure about. Democracy doesn't just decline gradually, you just have to look at what happened in Germany in the 30s and even Russia since 2012 to see how quickly democracy can disappear.
@@miriambaines1472 this is a braindead take completely ignoring any historical context of any country or culture. I think it can be argued that germans haven't really grasped democracy to this very day, while russians never really had a chance to begin with.
Doesn’t it get more bumpy when you leave the bay and get out to sea?
Yes, but the ship can weather the bumps more or less.
I don't think Biden should be allowed to run again. While I don't think his performance was AS bad as the media report now that i've seen the debate, I do believe if he gets back in he will just be the front for whoever controls him behind the scenes.
11:30 one of the things which youve allowed to see is that the people catastrophising are often also the people who think that if you just fix one thing, win one election, then we can go back to "normal" and democracy will be saved. They are constantly over emphasing the importance of the thing closest to hand, its make or break, rather than being one data point in an overall trend.
Vlad, I feel you. But we don't want Newsom to do a Yeltsin.
No. Biden does not need to go. He should change VP. Someone that will prop Biden up better than Kamala
People don't vote for a VP. People will vote AGAINST a VP who's been vilified, but they won't vote for one... except sometimes a popular VP can swing their home state. I think Biden is so far from being 1 state away that a change of VP won't solve the real problem.
Kamala Who??
No, it was a solid video, Vlad. Definitely not 2 out of 10. (Can't imagine why you said that even)
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If this metaphorical ship is indeed still a ship and not a life raft, then we are driving it so we can slow it down, turn towards one of those islands at the exit of the bay, drop the anker there and enjoy a nice cocktail in the sun. 😊
Vlad, I think I understand and concur with your reasoning regarding rough waters ahead for democracies, but I do wonder if your thinking on the global balancing point changes at all if some of the various predictions around demographic collapse, and hence severe societal disruption, come to pass for Russia and China over the next ~20 years. The same challenges are theorized to apply to other nations such as Italy and South Korea too, but these are significantly richer countries per-capita with, I hope, more degrees of freedom to explore in fashioning adaptive measures (as Japan has ably demonstrated to the world). This thorny issue also looms large for poor, struggling Ukraine -- hence mass-scale organized stealing of children by Russia as part of their international crime wave.
The Mummy vs Frankenstein. No brain v no soul
Is this defeatism predicated on the stupidity of American voters? ... and therefore the stupidity of democracy? I am very interested to see this test of democracy... I mean, if we lose, what really have we lost? I hate everything about this trump phenomenon , so it's hard for me to put this thought out there.
Thank you Vlad …. I’ve been waiting for this and I really do feel better ❤
I’m grateful
There’s nothing to freak out about 🤦♂️ folks are unnecessarily stressing out over something that is not important, one guy kept not answering questions and the other guy answered questions (with the stutter he’s always had since youth) and answered with detail that makes an American realize (by our surroundings in our own towns) that it is truth
This "he didn't answer" take is a HUGE cope being propagated by the media to give the left something to desperately grasp onto, but it's not based on reality. He may not have answered the way YOU wanted, but he did answer, he just used some of his time to follow up on previous questions and Biden's previous responses.
USA is less and less important, EU needs to look out for itself and stop sending money to the US, we need to tax Google/Facebook/Amazon/Microsoft/Apple properly
Does Biden show signs of dementia? Yes or No?
@@kulman4295 Actually, the USA is more important now for EU than it was 20 years ago because there is a real and active threat in Europe... Russia. Hence why Europeans are so worried about Trump.
How can anyone be so in denial? The election is crucial and Biden has next to no chance of winning after this type of disaster.
I vote for democracy.