If you tell me she is a shy person in real life I can believe you but you have to admit that she has developed great communication skills, she is a focused and down to earth person. She is stronger than ever.
Yeah, I remembered she often hyperventilate. Small voice. Hiding her face with hat. IIRC got nickname Sololive due often alone in group collab. Rely to other when ordering korean seaweed in restaurant. But she the one that make holo-resistance in early days. She may talking alot before holo. She may really like talking to choose become streamer. As time progress she grinded and guided alot by great extrovert member like Suisei Marine Subaru etc. Not to mention countless of hour talking in stream should give a massive dent in her skill. She like really rough diamond before. Now she like really polished diamond. There is no way this cute shy onion can be this great at communcation. Mindblown. Agree, she is stronger than ever.
@@normalguy5583 It's the relative freedom. A corpo gig can only take you so far, basically you can learn how to do marketing and branding for yourself, learn the ins and outs of getting a proper model illustrated and rigged. I bet you this model has better rigging than the one paid for by Cover, just because she was able to get it done custom for herself. She also probably beat out a lot of her social anxiety so while being an introvert at least on stream she can be confident and sure of herself. much like other shy people like Pekora, or Henya etc. Speaking of which, she now has the opportunity to now collab with people she couldn't collab with before due to brand risk or whatever have you, if she thinks it would be a good business decision for her. and she doesn't have to do up a bunch of proposals and what not with management
If you're so attached to someone so hard online you WILL get your heart broken. It's inevitable. Nothing last forever and time is accelerated online. Don't get attached to things you can't control. It doesn't mean you cant be a fan. Enjoy the moment and the journey but be prepared for it to end. Everything ends. It's a hard life lesson everyone has to learn. Offline and online.
Sakuna: "I don't think everything and every effort will necessarily be rewarded, but the experience you got from working hard for it will definitely become a treasure later on in your life!" *Apparently, this maid has some wise words to say*
having your future determined by something thats out of your control. some things are unachivable no matter how hard you work for them. it's quiet unfair don't you think? you dont have to force yourself to come to terms with it. only know that this is the reality of the world we live in.
@@juampisito people born poor define acquiring riches as success so when one is born rich the threshold for what success increases. The same way a rich man cannot enjoy what a poor man's form of recreation
8:12 This part about "dumplings are better than flowers" is a Japanese idiom that means someone who cares more about practical matters (like solid food in your stomach i.e. dumplings) and doesn't care much about philosophy, art, aesthetics, and things like that (for example the famous traditional Japanese activity of "flower viewing"). So she's directly drawing a contrast with the her observation about the philosophical nature of the marshmallow questions, saying that maybe her motto should have been "dumplings over flowers" i.e. declaring that she prefers to be practical and not philosophical... but then she went back on it and said that would make for a silly motto after all, lol
@@somerandomdudeable The manga / anime Hana Yori Dango is also named after that idiom, but spells Dango as 男子 instead of 団子, so that instead of being about dumplings vs flowers it's about "boys" vs flowers. Kind of a twist on the original idiom.
Otherwise known as Boys over Flowers or Meteor Garden if you consuming other media. pretty sure Sakuna is just referencing the manga that inspired those shows.
Thats the best answer I've ever heard from someone. Isn't offended by the question, approaches it from both perspectives, offers some potential insight, and doesnt deny their feelings nor their decision making power by demanding them hide them in order to appease everyone. In all ways, this is the gold standard for me and she hit all targets. Congratulations Sakuna, you've earned my respect.
Yeah her responses were beautiful. That's what I really appreciate about people like her - they are willing to consider various perspectives and don't shame people for thinking differently. JP vtubers are very mature about subjects like this, many people, especially in Western sphere, could learn a lot from truly listening to them. Sadly even in this comment section you see people trying to spin some theories about her workplace or fans to force their narratives which are just missing the point.
I didn't really expect it, but Sakuna is actually very well spoken. Some of the questions chosen were quite tough to answer early after her debut, but she handles it with class. Also, the way she responded when she thinks the marshmallow came from a girl is gross lol (affectionate). I feel like I am witnessing the birth of Saku-Oji.
That last question really did hit me, the part when she said "Did they really abandoned you?" Felt like a mix feeling of sadness and joy, because she at first glance seemed like she "abandoned" us, but in reality it was everything except that, she just wanted to go on a different way, I respect this cat maid and I love her very much also purple onions are really cute, just a random thought
for me, at first glance she didnt "abandoned" us as it depends on the viewers too. I mean a certain onion even got in to the trouble signing our postcard without any limit, because she loved us and wants to make at the end worth it for everyone of us. So what Sakuna answered was well generalized depending on what people's mindset where at.
I drew similar comparison in pro wrestling regarding this matter. When big name wrestler leave their promotion to join other promotion or goes indies, it really test their fandom and where their loyalty is. Quick example happened really recently when some fans are missing Sasha Bank but she actually still active with the name Mercedes Mone. If they truly miss her, just watch her elsewhere.
Kson once tweet this a few days after Aqua graduate, "They don't go anywhere, if anything you are the one who left them" and guess what, she is absolutely right at the end.
I honestly think she just wanted the freedom to do her own things at her own pace. I doubt it was much more complicated than that. We don't know all the logistical nightmares that come with being part of what I refer to as "the machine." The machine has it's way of doing things and it's nearly impossible to change those way. Especially when the machine is successful. We've seen it before. A certain train conductor needed her freedom as well. It's a common story and not just for vtubers. Being a part of the corporate machine can be soul crushing. Sometimes walking away is the only option.
absolutely. when you remember how many layers of approval to have your game stream in those machine, some may even have to be prepared months prior even as a solo stream. ofc im not disregarding the benefit being in a part of a bigger thing, the amount of connection alone is worth it. but all in all everything has its caveat
i can see why that she left due to Perms Issue where it might take months to play that game on stream only to get shut down for whatever reasons from higher ups. if thats what she wants to play Any game on stream even if she had to sacrifice her Idol Career just for that, then i dont mind it. it felt like a ballsy move for her to Sacrifice Big things just to get Small things for her.
Pretty funny how there were people saying that she left because she didn't want to do idol stuff anymore, yet here she is saying that's exactly what she wants to do lol
This is why I hate it when people say "well, if you read between the lines..." Yeah, sometimes, but most of the time - and I know this is crazy - the message people want to communicate to you is THE MESSAGE THAT THEY TELL YOU
@@Rhenryie If you believe the statement, and I see no reason not to, she felt that what she wanted out of streaming was better suited to the indie vtuber format.
@@RhenryieHololive was getting too busy and there was so much going on all the time. She just wants to have fun streams while doing idol stuff. Remember that when they're not streaming, in hololive, they're doing constant offline work
This is the Sakuna we know and love. For example, you may agree or disagree with her evaluation that she doesn't deserve the viewer count right now, that she wants to succeed only through her own ability. Sounds familiar? That's the way she's always been and there was never a moment this wasn't the case in her gaming history. DS, Sekiro, Apex, DQ11, etc... never any cheese and always fighting fair and square. Her character is consistent through all facets of her life and this is exactly why she is loved.
She has always been socially anxious but I did notice that she’s very mature, articulate with her words and is good at speaking when she has to be serious or have to lead. It peeks out sometimes and I sorta have whiplash whenever that happens lmao some other excerpt is when Gura said everyone (including staff) goes dead silent when Aqua speaks and everyone pays attention. Subaru also said that it’s Aqua who leads 2nd gen and has huge respects for her.
I remember first seeing a clip from her past form in a talking stream and it hit me how thoughtful she came off as. Sakutan seems to be a deep thinker.
She handled those questions extremely well. It is refreshing to see her answering those kind of questions, they are quite personal, they would probably not be allowed in Holo standards.
@@Otoshi_Gami people saying that (the idea that a person graduated is leaving their fans behind) is so stupid because we have victoria who is about to leave niji and she thought she didnt do a great job as a corpo vtuber and saying shes selfish for leaving her fans or smth when she just wants to be able to do things she likes in a different chapter in her life like how people say "oh i miss coco i miss watson" and then not watch their alt channels its so pathetic
@@arlynnecumberbatch1056 exactly. its just goes to show how much little they care about their alt and just cared about the corpo Avatar or corpo itself. otherwise 2 Million Aqua fans would've gone to Sakuna channel already but they didnt as the majority are still loyal to hololive. thats the reality that we're in
The same way I only liked rushia as rushia and I don't follow her alt. There's just a thing about personas and which one you prefer. I prefer knowing that type of person or the type of person I thought they were rather than knowing the full person. So you can't really fault them if they don't migrate to the alt. It's just not the same anymore
Look, you guys very much have a point that some people are more loyal to the brand than the vtuber themselves but not everyone who is unable to move on to the reincarnation is a case of that. The "it is not the same" thing has a truth to it. Even if solo streams are pretty much the same the fans are still by and large losing the interactions and the larger interconnected community that is a big part of the draw for the agency vtubers.
Sakutan... We know you're married to a certain Kirito and Asuna, that's why you get that name xD Love Sakutan's answer for these questions. She has a become wise maid after the experiences she went through 😭😭
She answer most of them quite nicely i say most of them because we still have unanswered questions, Which Ear is the Real one Sakuna-san this will bug me every time you stream.
@@darknetsystem Someone did ask her this on the full stream! She only showed this question to the viewers, went silent and moved on to the next one LMAO
what i get from this seems like she just want to live a slow life, you can tell that being in holo was quite a challenge with how busy it was and how high the expectation, because it's all about "what next". so i feel like this will be a slow life journey.
Somehow, this made me think about them, who do this thing in this platform, using an avatar, and being as an idol of some sorts, that people adore and love, and follow. I am already becoming conflicted with what's the best on these people: be in a company that will boost your growth and success in its namesake, or through perseverance as an individual of your own. I've seen a lot of terminations, graduations, some surrounding issues on certain dark companies, on how people treat their coworkers or as friends, on some other companies that are ending its course/project.. and so forth. And this action coming from her is something that I really respect, and it kinda makes me smile on how mature and open-minded she really is. I just hope that people can grow, as an audience, even if they cherish this idol culture. Because these avatars they see and worship are just humans too, with some flaws, with some issues, and their own struggles in life as well. Internet is a great place to hangout, but sometimes, it really does make things to you that it isolates you for who you really are...
I think the separation between the character and the person behind it being seen as one of the greatest boons of Vtubing probably played a large role in this. Seems like more people focused on the benefits, but overlooked (perhaps semi-consciously) the downsides. In that regard, I don't think company Vtubers are alone, indies just had a headstart with shifting away from that idea since they have less to lose, less things tying them down, and ultimately there are simply more people of all kinds getting involved. It might just be the actual "fad" part of Vtubing that might soon fade away for the most part, with it becoming truly just another way to stream, no strings attached. Of course some people will choose to both stick to the idea for it's advantages as content creators and follow those content creators as audiences, but hopefully they will be doing so in full recognition of the trade-offs by then.
I really didn't like that last question. I agree with what she said. "Did they really abandon you?" Some people tend to forget that she's just a streamer online. Don't get me wrong, when I woke up to the news about her graduating, I was really sad, but I personally feel like it could've been phrased better. She didn't leave or abandon anyone. People come and go. Just enjoy the memories you've made with them while they're still around.
Its good that she is getting a lot of support but at the same time, having all those expectations and weigth again on her shoulders when she just wants to chill must be a bother.
She has no intentions of hiding her past. And also even if she tried, it would be impossible. She’ll in every way end up to be dealing that fact. So for her from now on it’ll be about how she lives upon such pressure. That’s how big her former group is and past figure was. It may seem stressful, but she also admits on [2:15] that her being such an idol in the past wasn’t solely her own influence. She is humble but very smart. She ain’t a little girl who wants to rest. She’s full of ambition if you pay close attention to what she said in the past and present. Even in this clip. I believe she’ll be fine and will strive.
She should expect it tbh All these years in the industry, no way she's doing all this for a "chill". If she wants to, she could just stream again one year after with PNGs, no debut stream, or better; use a niche platform like Twitcast. Yet it's a proper re-debut with similar Live2D, one cover song right after, then marshmallow reading next stream. It's all planned, she doesn't want to lose momentum.
@@kanzaki2672 pretty much. she gotta strike while the Iron is HOT. that shows how much ambitions that shes going in and no way its gonna be just CHILL STREAM with that amount of 800K subscribers in an instant. people has VERY HIGH EXPECTATIONS of her and she should know this by now after 6 years of experience in hololive.
@@Xiamat Just for now bro, she was among the top in the top company, handtied in the back by rules. Now, she can do whatever she wants, she´s gonna reach the sky bro, mark my words.
The way I see that marshmallow is the same feeling when you rooting for someone else success but the one they rooting for decided to left and hit reset button. I mean sure Aqua peacefully Graduated without issues. How do I say this... When Idols(not Vtubers) member decided to retire theirs next career are mostly not become Idols group member again and strife for better future wether for wealth, fame, or theirs own self satisfaction while when Vtubers graduated theirs next career is mostly still Becoming Vtubers/Streamers but with different persona, it's not bad thing itself tho since maybe they doing that so they can do better and still count as self satisfaction.
In game analogy is like one decided to stop playing Skyrim and change to Fallout 4 while the other one decided to load another save file or just make a New Save File after slaying Alduin and finish all the main quest just to find new things from the game that they haven't found.
it's crazy how we watched her before losing brain cells to hearing 1000 years' worth of advice, seriously tho her answers were pretty deep and meaningful.
What is this weeling up warmth in my eyes? Why do i feel like a dad when his daugther has grown up? Somewhere within me thinking that i would be sleeping better tonight after listening to her answer for last question.
I always knew she was smart, but she's even more well spoken than I thought she was. Also, if i can make one hope about her future it's that she doesn't start streaming on twitch, but that might not be an issue with how twitch seems to be imploding currently
Some JP vtubers are still switching to Twitch though, seemingly unaware on what's happening on that platform or how bad they are towards Vtubers. Or maybe the Japanese twitch side is just lenient. I wish they'd just stick to youtube tbh. For all the ad crap this site, it's still miles better than that glorified camsite.
This reminds me of that one episode from that one 3D animation series from that one vtuber agency. Y'know, the one centered around that one idol as she ruminated about what the definition of "idol" is. I wonder if Sakutan has seen it; I found it pretty insightful.
It is Aqua...'s Doppleganger that is. Unlike the Aqua that we know, she has freedom and room to develop herself and not locked into schedules and events that would seems to be stressing. Ever work a job and tired of being dictated with? Now Sakuna is her own boss and she has the breathe of fresh air once again not abiding by someone's rules. Agency look great on presentation but behind the scenes can be a little harsh. We've seen it on Nijisanji. Imagine other agencies. I mean every company in the world has that sort of treatment with their employees. It's great that she's indie.
@@AceLive_ Hololive, despite being labeled as the standard by fans, is still not immune to these kind of things. Two of their talents sought more freedom and got out. Sure it's not as terrible as Nijisanji but that still says something a lot about how things are done in the background.
@@Eins3467 I know we're talking about vtubers here but in general, every company has it's own scandal behind that you usually only hear from employees who used to work from them. Favoritism, bad practices, overwork, etc. Being your own boss can be tough as you have to do your own plans than being dictated to you. You really have to put really good effort on your work to stand out and for the most part, they get respected. It's unrealistic but back to vtubers, I believe they got enough following to support them being their own business. Good for them. I'll probably do the same if given a chance. I'll use the company's label and reputation as a conduit to make my own business separated with them without burning bridges. Aqua and Ame did something smarter. Because their character is pretty much dead when they live agency but indie, until they discard the model or they went inactive, their character is their own persona and they can get vacations whenever they want.
The English translation channels' comments are so much kinder... I'm sorry but its true. I hope the toxic fans can just leave and the majority fans can stay calm.
A lot of us just hope for our favorites to be happy and thriving, however that is accomplished. We do get pretty angry if they aren't, for reasons that shouldn't happen esp., but that's for a different comment section.
@@Progeusz- I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, trolling or the sarcastic joke simply went over your head. Of course I know about her streams back on niconico, her gaming YT channel as well as the fact her current channel was originally a hobby channel but it's a sarcastic joke. C'mon
@@Progeusz-You also ain't clever as well because she wasn't talking like this 6 years ago either 😂. Her experience paid off and you can obviously see it. Take your L lol
I genuinely am sad for those who fall for bottom-feeders(scavengers) of online communities. Believing what they say and ignoring what the actual talents say. I feel pity, to those who create such gossip. What life have you lived to live off of crumbs of hatred.
She gave me the impression of a shounen genre protagonist that had aged well, graduated out of her shounen arc and is now figuring out a way to her seinen arc. That's cool
6:37 wise word Her motto is "Effort will always be rewarded " But , you also need to be kind to the people around you that help you move up in the world. She end her old job in a way that is respectful .
So.. not because she doesn't want to be an idol. She wants to start from the scratch with all hard works pointing towards herself all the way to the top all by herself. She wanted her own official Sololive. She seek the grind. Is what I gathered from this. I could be wrong.
She just want to take things on her own pace. People really should stop parroting the "they quit because they don't want to be idol anymore" especially on Aqua's case. No one forced her to do 3 sololives and all the idol activities she did more than other members. Yet she did, that mean she was the one who chose the idol life. It's just stuff becoming a bit too much for her. Now she just wants to take things slowly on her own pace, but she still wants to be idol
@@gonoki888 She still wants to be an Idol but on her own terms. She still quit striving to what an "Idol" should be according to a company though so technically she didn't want that kind of life anymore.
I was wondering, if she doesn't see herself as an idol, then who sees as one? then: "Effort will always be rewarded" ... wait... that was the motto of AKB48 Takahashi Minami AKA Takamina it could be????
The answer to the final question was great, she never abandoned you but there are things in life is out of our control and she couldn't do much about it, just enjoy your oshi as much as she's available. Nothing is forever. Enjoy the present.
I never really thought about it until she mentioned a peaceful life. It's true that once you are at such a size, people will find you an follow you no matter where you go, so you'd really have to quit entirely if you don't want that kind of pressure anymore
Marine really raised her well. I cannot wait to see what will Sakuna do in the foreseeable future. Once she stream Apex,bet your ass i gonna camp around in her chatrooms
8:53 mf spoke like they're a dog abandoned by previous owner. get over it child, people come and go. really hate this parasocial behavior, they act like they can't breath without their oshi
Claiming your oshi abandoned you is a rather selfish view of things. Unless they really do ran away without saying goodbye or giving prior notice. To begin with your oshi is someone you chose, they dont pick you as their fan. Its the parasocial thing between viewer and creator, tho usually one-sided.
She is an idol, but still lack skills for the ideal idol she has in her own mind. For us the word Idol is different, but still has the meaning for someone we admire.
I love seeing Sakutan, it's great that this gamer maid has arrived but it pains me to see certain other vtubers thinking they won't be able to interact with each other
I've never really watched her outside of some apex clips but I was really impressed by the way she answered these questions. Did she always sound so thoughtful and outgoing?
idk about outgoing but she’s known for being incredibly shy and introverted 😅 there’s hundreds of clips of her interactions with millions of views, like how she goes around wearing caps because she can’t look at people’s eyes, how she can’t order for herself or have to be assisted by her mom to doctor appointments just to name some. But yeah, I’ve followed her for about 3+ years now and imo, she can be articulate and oozes seniority/experience when she has to. Girl def has seen some sh!t being a streamer for like a decade now 😅
She has always been thoughtful and wise in her own way. There are some clips you can find that how she was very helpful with other members/vtubers when they just started or when they were having problems. I remember Kanata talking about that, Aqua helped her when she just started and was feeling anxious. Norio-sensei / Tamaki also consulted to Aqua about numbers and stuff like that. And there are more.
Hmm, that last question, I think Saku-tan understood that they were most likely talking about Minato Aqua... Ngl, calling anything but "that" certain nickname is gonna take time for me to get used to.
Honestly that's a lot of people's first speculation. Whether a voice actress, stage idol, or vtuber. And there is precedent in the Idol stage singer scene.
A lot of pieces were falling into place and timing was adding up. It's hard to not put two and two together in such situation, the theory made perfect sense. But if she says things are this way, I will believe her.
@@Wolf-fighterI don't like rushia but, why shouldn't we believe them? It isn't really our business and if they come out as a terrible person then oh-fucking-well. Besides iirc rushia had a lot of red flags above her with how she interacted with her fans and such, and as far as I know, Sakuna hasn't shown any of said red flags. But then again I don't watch her or her past streams.
love and hate are 2 sides of the same coin. Some fans probably felt betrayed that she left them and their feelings are valid. I felt like Sakuna answered this question very maturely and honestly, she didn't dismiss the concerns of the viewer nor did she promise that she won't leave/abandon them again or that they should just trust her unconditionally. She only told the correct answer which is to just do whatever you want no one is beholden or should be beholden to anyone else especially random people over the internet.
My only wish from her is more Apex stream. Not necessarily solo master challenge but casual stream chilling or collab. I know Apex is not in a good spot right now but the longing to see her playing the game is there.
@@arlynnecumberbatch1056 It's just going downhill. EA keep making terrible decisions as expected. They only care about cosmetics. Game is swarmed with cheaters left and right. It's gonna die like how Titanfall 2 died.
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If you tell me she is a shy person in real life I can believe you but you have to admit that she has developed great communication skills, she is a focused and down to earth person. She is stronger than ever.
Yeah, I remembered she often hyperventilate. Small voice. Hiding her face with hat. IIRC got nickname Sololive due often alone in group collab. Rely to other when ordering korean seaweed in restaurant.
But she the one that make holo-resistance in early days. She may talking alot before holo. She may really like talking to choose become streamer.
As time progress she grinded and guided alot by great extrovert member like Suisei Marine Subaru etc. Not to mention countless of hour talking in stream should give a massive dent in her skill.
She like really rough diamond before. Now she like really polished diamond.
There is no way this cute shy onion can be this great at communcation. Mindblown.
Agree, she is stronger than ever.
She really is Bocchi
@@hafirenggayuda pretty much. Introvert in real life, Extrovert on stream. thats how double life works like batman and bruce wayne.
really feel like they are graduate from a school. they grow so much from when they join.
@@normalguy5583 It's the relative freedom. A corpo gig can only take you so far, basically you can learn how to do marketing and branding for yourself, learn the ins and outs of getting a proper model illustrated and rigged. I bet you this model has better rigging than the one paid for by Cover, just because she was able to get it done custom for herself.
She also probably beat out a lot of her social anxiety so while being an introvert at least on stream she can be confident and sure of herself. much like other shy people like Pekora, or Henya etc. Speaking of which, she now has the opportunity to now collab with people she couldn't collab with before due to brand risk or whatever have you, if she thinks it would be a good business decision for her. and she doesn't have to do up a bunch of proposals and what not with management
8:53 For those who came cuz of the thumbnail.
Using term like abandoning...least parasocial fan ever 💀
@@Seraziel531 yeah exactly, using "abandon" is really just selfish, its like saying as if the oshi you've been supporting never cared about you 💀
If you're so attached to someone so hard online you WILL get your heart broken. It's inevitable. Nothing last forever and time is accelerated online.
Don't get attached to things you can't control. It doesn't mean you cant be a fan. Enjoy the moment and the journey but be prepared for it to end. Everything ends.
It's a hard life lesson everyone has to learn. Offline and online.
thank you
POV the oshi that marshmellow was talking about was Minato Aqua. just adds an extra layer of irony which I find funny (if it is)
Sakuna: "I don't think everything and every effort will necessarily be rewarded, but the experience you got from working hard for it will definitely become a treasure later on in your life!"
*Apparently, this maid has some wise words to say*
having your future determined by something thats out of your control. some things are unachivable no matter how hard you work for them. it's quiet unfair don't you think? you dont have to force yourself to come to terms with it. only know that this is the reality of the world we live in.
Ive heard that somewhere before
Not everyone who has worked hard will succeed, but everyone who has succeeded have all worked hard.
-Coach Kamogawa
@@CoFFee-uw5svExcept people that are born rich but is that truly success?
@@juampisito people born poor define acquiring riches as success so when one is born rich the threshold for what success increases.
The same way a rich man cannot enjoy what a poor man's form of recreation
Man, there is some really philosophical questions in those marshmallows
sakutan no koto suki sugi
Hontou?
8:12 This part about "dumplings are better than flowers" is a Japanese idiom that means someone who cares more about practical matters (like solid food in your stomach i.e. dumplings) and doesn't care much about philosophy, art, aesthetics, and things like that (for example the famous traditional Japanese activity of "flower viewing").
So she's directly drawing a contrast with the her observation about the philosophical nature of the marshmallow questions, saying that maybe her motto should have been "dumplings over flowers" i.e. declaring that she prefers to be practical and not philosophical... but then she went back on it and said that would make for a silly motto after all, lol
Hana Yori Dango!
@@somerandomdudeable The manga / anime Hana Yori Dango is also named after that idiom, but spells Dango as 男子 instead of 団子, so that instead of being about dumplings vs flowers it's about "boys" vs flowers. Kind of a twist on the original idiom.
@@flamingspinach Gotta love kanji reading shenanigans.
Cheers for that info. 😎
Otherwise known as Boys over Flowers or Meteor Garden if you consuming other media. pretty sure Sakuna is just referencing the manga that inspired those shows.
Thats the best answer I've ever heard from someone. Isn't offended by the question, approaches it from both perspectives, offers some potential insight, and doesnt deny their feelings nor their decision making power by demanding them hide them in order to appease everyone.
In all ways, this is the gold standard for me and she hit all targets. Congratulations Sakuna, you've earned my respect.
youre not doing any thing good or appeasing anyone with blatant lies
@@Wolf-fighter What did she lied about?
@@Wolf-fighterdidn't matter tho, a million subs in month is guaranteed. no matter how many got offended and displeased,
Yeah her responses were beautiful. That's what I really appreciate about people like her - they are willing to consider various perspectives and don't shame people for thinking differently. JP vtubers are very mature about subjects like this, many people, especially in Western sphere, could learn a lot from truly listening to them. Sadly even in this comment section you see people trying to spin some theories about her workplace or fans to force their narratives which are just missing the point.
I didn't really expect it, but Sakuna is actually very well spoken. Some of the questions chosen were quite tough to answer early after her debut, but she handles it with class. Also, the way she responded when she thinks the marshmallow came from a girl is gross lol (affectionate). I feel like I am witnessing the birth of Saku-Oji.
I feel like she has had some experience streaming before
Rather the birth of Saku-Roshi..
Professional at work
professional have standard
Protect this gamer neko maid who will make you clean the house with our lives
Her chores are to grind apex rank.
That last question really did hit me, the part when she said "Did they really abandoned you?" Felt like a mix feeling of sadness and joy, because she at first glance seemed like she "abandoned" us, but in reality it was everything except that, she just wanted to go on a different way, I respect this cat maid and I love her very much also purple onions are really cute, just a random thought
It’s goes the same with what Kson said about Your Oshi didn’t left when they graduated but you did
for me, at first glance she didnt "abandoned" us as it depends on the viewers too. I mean a certain onion even got in to the trouble signing our postcard without any limit, because she loved us and wants to make at the end worth it for everyone of us. So what Sakuna answered was well generalized depending on what people's mindset where at.
@@LeRouxMashinroudon't forget the daily stream streak. I think she streamed 100 days++ non-stop(?)
I drew similar comparison in pro wrestling regarding this matter. When big name wrestler leave their promotion to join other promotion or goes indies, it really test their fandom and where their loyalty is. Quick example happened really recently when some fans are missing Sasha Bank but she actually still active with the name Mercedes Mone. If they truly miss her, just watch her elsewhere.
Kson once tweet this a few days after Aqua graduate, "They don't go anywhere, if anything you are the one who left them" and guess what, she is absolutely right at the end.
marine is right, its not that she is gone, she just leave her home as an Adult young women... look at her now 🥲
That is actually very accurate. She sounds less shy and more confident talking. I think she even sounds more joyful
I honestly think she just wanted the freedom to do her own things at her own pace. I doubt it was much more complicated than that. We don't know all the logistical nightmares that come with being part of what I refer to as "the machine." The machine has it's way of doing things and it's nearly impossible to change those way. Especially when the machine is successful.
We've seen it before. A certain train conductor needed her freedom as well. It's a common story and not just for vtubers. Being a part of the corporate machine can be soul crushing. Sometimes walking away is the only option.
absolutely. when you remember how many layers of approval to have your game stream in those machine, some may even have to be prepared months prior even as a solo stream. ofc im not disregarding the benefit being in a part of a bigger thing, the amount of connection alone is worth it. but all in all everything has its caveat
I wouldn't want my Oshi sacrificing her happiness for my own. For me, it's as simple as that.
i can see why that she left due to Perms Issue where it might take months to play that game on stream only to get shut down for whatever reasons from higher ups. if thats what she wants to play Any game on stream even if she had to sacrifice her Idol Career just for that, then i dont mind it. it felt like a ballsy move for her to Sacrifice Big things just to get Small things for her.
Being indie is still way different compared to being a corpo vtuber so this is definitely true.
I love how they already call her S-akutan.
Speech level: 10
Smol size: 10
Cuteness: 10
Neko maid levels: 10
Skill to clean: 4.5
Total: 44.5
Perfectly Balanced.
I just realized it adds up to 44.5
but her SIZE is not smol courtesy to Gaou papa....
@@nikujaga_oishiithats why its 10 👀
And a forty four point five percent reason to remember the name
Pretty funny how there were people saying that she left because she didn't want to do idol stuff anymore, yet here she is saying that's exactly what she wants to do lol
This is why I hate it when people say "well, if you read between the lines..."
Yeah, sometimes, but most of the time - and I know this is crazy - the message people want to communicate to you is THE MESSAGE THAT THEY TELL YOU
@@comicmoniker Why did she leave?
@@Rhenryie If you believe the statement, and I see no reason not to, she felt that what she wanted out of streaming was better suited to the indie vtuber format.
@@RhenryieHololive was getting too busy and there was so much going on all the time. She just wants to have fun streams while doing idol stuff. Remember that when they're not streaming, in hololive, they're doing constant offline work
Honestly fair, if you look back when she joined Hololive, it was quite small compared to now
This is the Sakuna we know and love. For example, you may agree or disagree with her evaluation that she doesn't deserve the viewer count right now, that she wants to succeed only through her own ability. Sounds familiar? That's the way she's always been and there was never a moment this wasn't the case in her gaming history. DS, Sekiro, Apex, DQ11, etc... never any cheese and always fighting fair and square. Her character is consistent through all facets of her life and this is exactly why she is loved.
Day 1 - Nervous, shy, conversationally challenged. Today - Insightful, well spoken, more open than before.
she is just build different lol
She has always been socially anxious but I did notice that she’s very mature, articulate with her words and is good at speaking when she has to be serious or have to lead. It peeks out sometimes and I sorta have whiplash whenever that happens lmao
some other excerpt is when Gura said everyone (including staff) goes dead silent when Aqua speaks and everyone pays attention. Subaru also said that it’s Aqua who leads 2nd gen and has huge respects for her.
I remember first seeing a clip from her past form in a talking stream and it hit me how thoughtful she came off as. Sakutan seems to be a deep thinker.
Was it about finding herself weakening as she finds more friends?
I love her voice so much, I didn't know how much I loved her until she was gone. :'3
Sakuna : There's too many people watching me, I wanted to debut with less pressure !
Senchou : Kuso inkya !
Thanks for translating some of the question my nihonggo is not jouzo yesterday 😢
Wise words coming from this cat maid 😺
All the questions and answers are really insightful. Glad to hear her perspective of these trending topics. I truly wish her the best.
She handled those questions extremely well. It is refreshing to see her answering those kind of questions, they are quite personal, they would probably not be allowed in Holo standards.
Wise words for people with abandonment issue and she didn't abandon us she just changed her outfit LoL.
pretty much. just because vtuber graduates doesnt mean they abandoned them. just went to a different directions, thats all.
@@Otoshi_Gami people saying that (the idea that a person graduated is leaving their fans behind) is so stupid because we have victoria who is about to leave niji and she thought she didnt do a great job as a corpo vtuber and saying shes selfish for leaving her fans or smth when she just wants to be able to do things she likes in a different chapter in her life
like how people say "oh i miss coco i miss watson" and then not watch their alt channels its so pathetic
@@arlynnecumberbatch1056 exactly. its just goes to show how much little they care about their alt and just cared about the corpo Avatar or corpo itself. otherwise 2 Million Aqua fans would've gone to Sakuna channel already but they didnt as the majority are still loyal to hololive. thats the reality that we're in
The same way I only liked rushia as rushia and I don't follow her alt. There's just a thing about personas and which one you prefer.
I prefer knowing that type of person or the type of person I thought they were rather than knowing the full person.
So you can't really fault them if they don't migrate to the alt. It's just not the same anymore
Look, you guys very much have a point that some people are more loyal to the brand than the vtuber themselves but not everyone who is unable to move on to the reincarnation is a case of that.
The "it is not the same" thing has a truth to it. Even if solo streams are pretty much the same the fans are still by and large losing the interactions and the larger interconnected community that is a big part of the draw for the agency vtubers.
Sakutan... We know you're married to a certain Kirito and Asuna, that's why you get that name xD
Love Sakutan's answer for these questions. She has a become wise maid after the experiences she went through 😭😭
I love her even more after watching this
"Can I take a lick?" even in a different form, the influence of her (former) pirate mom is still strong...
She answer most of them quite nicely i say most of them because we still have unanswered questions, Which Ear is the Real one Sakuna-san this will bug me every time you stream.
need someone to send her question asking that 😂😂😂😂
@@darknetsystem Someone did ask her this on the full stream! She only showed this question to the viewers, went silent and moved on to the next one LMAO
what i get from this seems like she just want to live a slow life, you can tell that being in holo was quite a challenge with how busy it was and how high the expectation, because it's all about "what next". so i feel like this will be a slow life journey.
4:12 sounds like overpowered Isekai mc anime who just wanna have a normal and peaceful live
Oh wow she actually answered that really well
She really is a anime mc lol
Somehow, this made me think about them, who do this thing in this platform, using an avatar, and being as an idol of some sorts, that people adore and love, and follow. I am already becoming conflicted with what's the best on these people: be in a company that will boost your growth and success in its namesake, or through perseverance as an individual of your own. I've seen a lot of terminations, graduations, some surrounding issues on certain dark companies, on how people treat their coworkers or as friends, on some other companies that are ending its course/project.. and so forth. And this action coming from her is something that I really respect, and it kinda makes me smile on how mature and open-minded she really is.
I just hope that people can grow, as an audience, even if they cherish this idol culture. Because these avatars they see and worship are just humans too, with some flaws, with some issues, and their own struggles in life as well. Internet is a great place to hangout, but sometimes, it really does make things to you that it isolates you for who you really are...
I think the separation between the character and the person behind it being seen as one of the greatest boons of Vtubing probably played a large role in this. Seems like more people focused on the benefits, but overlooked (perhaps semi-consciously) the downsides. In that regard, I don't think company Vtubers are alone, indies just had a headstart with shifting away from that idea since they have less to lose, less things tying them down, and ultimately there are simply more people of all kinds getting involved.
It might just be the actual "fad" part of Vtubing that might soon fade away for the most part, with it becoming truly just another way to stream, no strings attached. Of course some people will choose to both stick to the idea for it's advantages as content creators and follow those content creators as audiences, but hopefully they will be doing so in full recognition of the trade-offs by then.
I honestly didn't expect to see her again tbh, and still a maid too
Damn she has grown much wiser and composed than the clumsy maid that debuted 6 years ago
she is still an idol at heart
I didn't expect to get a valuable life lesson from an anime girl.
I really didn't like that last question. I agree with what she said. "Did they really abandon you?" Some people tend to forget that she's just a streamer online. Don't get me wrong, when I woke up to the news about her graduating, I was really sad, but I personally feel like it could've been phrased better. She didn't leave or abandon anyone. People come and go. Just enjoy the memories you've made with them while they're still around.
Its good that she is getting a lot of support but at the same time, having all those expectations and weigth again on her shoulders when she just wants to chill must be a bother.
She has no intentions of hiding her past. And also even if she tried, it would be impossible. She’ll in every way end up to be dealing that fact. So for her from now on it’ll be about how she lives upon such pressure.
That’s how big her former group is and past figure was. It may seem stressful, but she also admits on [2:15] that her being such an idol in the past wasn’t solely her own influence. She is humble but very smart.
She ain’t a little girl who wants to rest. She’s full of ambition if you pay close attention to what she said in the past and present. Even in this clip.
I believe she’ll be fine and will strive.
She should expect it tbh
All these years in the industry, no way she's doing all this for a "chill". If she wants to, she could just stream again one year after with PNGs, no debut stream, or better; use a niche platform like Twitcast.
Yet it's a proper re-debut with similar Live2D, one cover song right after, then marshmallow reading next stream. It's all planned, she doesn't want to lose momentum.
@@kanzaki2672 pretty much. she gotta strike while the Iron is HOT. that shows how much ambitions that shes going in and no way its gonna be just CHILL STREAM with that amount of 800K subscribers in an instant. people has VERY HIGH EXPECTATIONS of her and she should know this by now after 6 years of experience in hololive.
@@kanzaki2672 and when did i said she cant take it, all i said is that it must be a bother, thats all.
@@Xiamat Just for now bro, she was among the top in the top company, handtied in the back by rules. Now, she can do whatever she wants, she´s gonna reach the sky bro, mark my words.
I watch this whole stream without know any japanese, sometime i forgot she talk so soothing
Spoken like a true wiseman, she has grown so much..😭
Saku-tan is a cute neko maid for us to protect once again
The way I see that marshmallow is the same feeling when you rooting for someone else success but the one they rooting for decided to left and hit reset button. I mean sure Aqua peacefully Graduated without issues. How do I say this... When Idols(not Vtubers) member decided to retire theirs next career are mostly not become Idols group member again and strife for better future wether for wealth, fame, or theirs own self satisfaction while when Vtubers graduated theirs next career is mostly still Becoming Vtubers/Streamers but with different persona, it's not bad thing itself tho since maybe they doing that so they can do better and still count as self satisfaction.
In game analogy is like one decided to stop playing Skyrim and change to Fallout 4 while the other one decided to load another save file or just make a New Save File after slaying Alduin and finish all the main quest just to find new things from the game that they haven't found.
She grew up so fast.
she's so good at answering these question and this is just her second stream what
they look at marshmallows mostly beforehand and prepare answers. they in fact sort even questions out before they dont want in
damn thats one philosophical maid if ive ever seen one and i dont mean that in a bad way at all
it's crazy how we watched her before losing brain cells to hearing 1000 years' worth of advice, seriously tho her answers were pretty deep and meaningful.
What is this weeling up warmth in my eyes? Why do i feel like a dad when his daugther has grown up?
Somewhere within me thinking that i would be sleeping better tonight after listening to her answer for last question.
hope this cat can meet a certain rabbit in the future
I always knew she was smart, but she's even more well spoken than I thought she was. Also, if i can make one hope about her future it's that she doesn't start streaming on twitch, but that might not be an issue with how twitch seems to be imploding currently
Some JP vtubers are still switching to Twitch though, seemingly unaware on what's happening on that platform or how bad they are towards Vtubers. Or maybe the Japanese twitch side is just lenient. I wish they'd just stick to youtube tbh. For all the ad crap this site, it's still miles better than that glorified camsite.
@@Eins3467 Why the push for going over to Twitch anyway?
This reminds me of that one episode from that one 3D animation series from that one vtuber agency. Y'know, the one centered around that one idol as she ruminated about what the definition of "idol" is. I wonder if Sakutan has seen it; I found it pretty insightful.
That episode has been stuck in my head and always comes to mind whenever they say they're idols.
This is just Aqua. Girl didn't even bother to change anything in her color scheme or speech pattern. XD
It is Aqua...'s Doppleganger that is. Unlike the Aqua that we know, she has freedom and room to develop herself and not locked into schedules and events that would seems to be stressing. Ever work a job and tired of being dictated with? Now Sakuna is her own boss and she has the breathe of fresh air once again not abiding by someone's rules. Agency look great on presentation but behind the scenes can be a little harsh. We've seen it on Nijisanji. Imagine other agencies. I mean every company in the world has that sort of treatment with their employees. It's great that she's indie.
@@AceLive_ Hololive, despite being labeled as the standard by fans, is still not immune to these kind of things. Two of their talents sought more freedom and got out. Sure it's not as terrible as Nijisanji but that still says something a lot about how things are done in the background.
@@Eins3467 I know we're talking about vtubers here but in general, every company has it's own scandal behind that you usually only hear from employees who used to work from them. Favoritism, bad practices, overwork, etc. Being your own boss can be tough as you have to do your own plans than being dictated to you. You really have to put really good effort on your work to stand out and for the most part, they get respected. It's unrealistic but back to vtubers, I believe they got enough following to support them being their own business. Good for them. I'll probably do the same if given a chance. I'll use the company's label and reputation as a conduit to make my own business separated with them without burning bridges. Aqua and Ame did something smarter. Because their character is pretty much dead when they live agency but indie, until they discard the model or they went inactive, their character is their own persona and they can get vacations whenever they want.
The English translation channels' comments are so much kinder... I'm sorry but its true.
I hope the toxic fans can just leave and the majority fans can stay calm.
She's a tough onion, she'll push through.
A lot of us just hope for our favorites to be happy and thriving, however that is accomplished. We do get pretty angry if they aren't, for reasons that shouldn't happen esp., but that's for a different comment section.
I don't understand what you mean by toxic fans here.
@@Zeon125they aren't talking about comments _here_
Second stream and she's talking to the viewers like she's been doing this for 6 years! Wonder where the familiarity comes from. I REALLY wonder
Rly wonder
She's been doing this longer than 6 years. You aren't clever.
@@Progeusz- I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, trolling or the sarcastic joke simply went over your head. Of course I know about her streams back on niconico, her gaming YT channel as well as the fact her current channel was originally a hobby channel but it's a sarcastic joke. C'mon
@@Progeusz-You also ain't clever as well because she wasn't talking like this 6 years ago either 😂. Her experience paid off and you can obviously see it. Take your L lol
I genuinely am sad for those who fall for
bottom-feeders(scavengers) of online communities.
Believing what they say and ignoring what the actual talents say.
I feel pity,
to those who create such gossip.
What life have you lived to live off of crumbs of hatred.
It take all kinds to make the world, it take all virtual kinds to make the internet.
It's literally just celebrity gossip. It's part of human nature. Worry less about it and just strive to be the best version of yourself.
She’s grown a lot can’t help but be proud of her. It’s so good to see her again
Sakuna: If this many people are watching me, I must be an idol.
Fillian: My time is nigh.
My favorite maid never left she simply went to maid school and came back a month later. 🥰
Answering those like a seasoned pro. 😂
She gave me the impression of a shounen genre protagonist that had aged well, graduated out of her shounen arc and is now figuring out a way to her seinen arc.
That's cool
she is so mature , that's why i choose her as my saioshi .
she is the oshi who will never abandon you
She handled these questions so well. Big props to Sakuna she's got a good head on her shoulders.
6:37 wise word
Her motto is
"Effort will always be rewarded "
But , you also need to be kind to the people around you that help you move up in the world.
She end her old job in a way that is respectful .
feels like a parent watching his child grow, makes me happy
So.. not because she doesn't want to be an idol. She wants to start from the scratch with all hard works pointing towards herself all the way to the top all by herself. She wanted her own official Sololive. She seek the grind. Is what I gathered from this. I could be wrong.
She just want to take things on her own pace. People really should stop parroting the "they quit because they don't want to be idol anymore" especially on Aqua's case. No one forced her to do 3 sololives and all the idol activities she did more than other members. Yet she did, that mean she was the one who chose the idol life. It's just stuff becoming a bit too much for her. Now she just wants to take things slowly on her own pace, but she still wants to be idol
@@gonoki888 She still wants to be an Idol but on her own terms. She still quit striving to what an "Idol" should be according to a company though so technically she didn't want that kind of life anymore.
5:16 Ui-oji? Is that you?
bro that first question must've been a fandead, my condolences bud
The last question is so loaded
She indeed has grown up 😊
The real question for her is, ‘Are you really a Cat Maid, or just a cosplayer cat maid?’
I was wondering, if she doesn't see herself as an idol, then who sees as one?
then:
"Effort will always be rewarded"
... wait... that was the motto of AKB48 Takahashi Minami AKA Takamina
it could be????
*_Man I Love Yuki Sakuna_*
The answer to the final question was great, she never abandoned you but there are things in life is out of our control and she couldn't do much about it, just enjoy your oshi as much as she's available. Nothing is forever. Enjoy the present.
I never really thought about it until she mentioned a peaceful life. It's true that once you are at such a size, people will find you an follow you no matter where you go, so you'd really have to quit entirely if you don't want that kind of pressure anymore
Marine really raised her well.
I cannot wait to see what will Sakuna do in the foreseeable future.
Once she stream Apex,bet your ass i gonna camp around in her chatrooms
I like how she got most of these questions because of a certain green hair necromancer lmao
8:53 mf spoke like they're a dog abandoned by previous owner. get over it child, people come and go.
really hate this parasocial behavior, they act like they can't breath without their oshi
6:57 taskaru
Claiming your oshi abandoned you is a rather selfish view of things. Unless they really do ran away without saying goodbye or giving prior notice. To begin with your oshi is someone you chose, they dont pick you as their fan. Its the parasocial thing between viewer and creator, tho usually one-sided.
Yukitan yukitan
I hate it when the question asking are you married
Sasuga Sukuna-chan
She is an idol, but still lack skills for the ideal idol she has in her own mind.
For us the word Idol is different, but still has the meaning for someone we admire.
I love seeing Sakutan, it's great that this gamer maid has arrived but it pains me to see certain other vtubers thinking they won't be able to interact with each other
I've never really watched her outside of some apex clips but I was really impressed by the way she answered these questions. Did she always sound so thoughtful and outgoing?
idk about outgoing but she’s known for being incredibly shy and introverted 😅 there’s hundreds of clips of her interactions with millions of views, like how she goes around wearing caps because she can’t look at people’s eyes, how she can’t order for herself or have to be assisted by her mom to doctor appointments just to name some.
But yeah, I’ve followed her for about 3+ years now and imo, she can be articulate and oozes seniority/experience when she has to. Girl def has seen some sh!t being a streamer for like a decade now 😅
She has always been thoughtful and wise in her own way. There are some clips you can find that how she was very helpful with other members/vtubers when they just started or when they were having problems. I remember Kanata talking about that, Aqua helped her when she just started and was feeling anxious. Norio-sensei / Tamaki also consulted to Aqua about numbers and stuff like that. And there are more.
I wonder who this unnamed oshi could be.
The laugh hehe
Proud that I always had a kamioshi who had such life wisdom.
Onion got wisdom 😂
Reincarnated as a Slime, Sword, Vending Machine and now a v-tuber.
This Sakuna streamer feels like a veteran in the field
Hmm, that last question, I think Saku-tan understood that they were most likely talking about Minato Aqua...
Ngl, calling anything but "that" certain nickname is gonna take time for me to get used to.
Sakuna : i dont think im real idol yet.
Me : yes, you are comedian.
That first question is probably because the rumor months ago after the onion's departure.
Honestly that's a lot of people's first speculation. Whether a voice actress, stage idol, or vtuber. And there is precedent in the Idol stage singer scene.
A lot of pieces were falling into place and timing was adding up. It's hard to not put two and two together in such situation, the theory made perfect sense. But if she says things are this way, I will believe her.
It was korekore who started and spread the rumor, because of course he did.
@@Progeusz- bet you believed rushia as well untill the marriage was burned and turned into a gigantic drama that was massacerd by media
@@Wolf-fighterI don't like rushia but, why shouldn't we believe them? It isn't really our business and if they come out as a terrible person then oh-fucking-well. Besides iirc rushia had a lot of red flags above her with how she interacted with her fans and such, and as far as I know, Sakuna hasn't shown any of said red flags. But then again I don't watch her or her past streams.
:0 She's back
oi oi oi oi, this voice, this ambience, this humor. I was late to find her, I guess. Why didn't this appear earlier in my recommendation.
Damn sakutan really at good playing words
Areeeee. Aree aree. The onion is back
love and hate are 2 sides of the same coin. Some fans probably felt betrayed that she left them and their feelings are valid. I felt like Sakuna answered this question very maturely and honestly, she didn't dismiss the concerns of the viewer nor did she promise that she won't leave/abandon them again or that they should just trust her unconditionally. She only told the correct answer which is to just do whatever you want no one is beholden or should be beholden to anyone else especially random people over the internet.
Much wiser answer compared to people here just going muh parasocial just stop bad.
My only wish from her is more Apex stream. Not necessarily solo master challenge but casual stream chilling or collab. I know Apex is not in a good spot right now but the longing to see her playing the game is there.
wait what happened to apex
@@arlynnecumberbatch1056 It's just going downhill. EA keep making terrible decisions as expected. They only care about cosmetics. Game is swarmed with cheaters left and right. It's gonna die like how Titanfall 2 died.
@@Eins3467 oh right i forgot apex is owned by ea