....It's actually a pretty big deal finding the actual Model who was used for "Rio", because the Album cover became so ICONIC......I know Nagel's work is now called the "Nail Shop Lady" in Urban Neighborhoods! ...ha-HAA!
This guy is a epic, EPIC, real life character. What a talent. Some people may say his efforts are unnecessary or meaningless but to seek for so long and to find the original images… and through his years of fascination and experience with Nagel’s style, he actually finds the original inspirational images. Mindblowing!
My older brother had the album back in the 80's. We're big DD fans. Many years later he was in Tokyo and contracted by Funimation for their anime buying contractual work. The manga artists he spoke with said Nagel's works are "revered" because they look Japanese in style.
He's like if I had 3 expressos and a monster energy drink with 3 prozacs and then I won a trip to Disneyland and found my long-lost daughter. but all at the same time.
The nexus of Nagel, Duran Duran and actual female models is an erotic intoxication that has consumed this man’s inner peace. Someone should write a novel about him.
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Very true! I also had a poster of a Porsche 930 parked on the wet sand at the surfline with a surfboard sticking out of it and a smoking brunette in a half wetsuit coming out the drivers door....."Einmalig" (which is, I believe, German for "unique") was the title.
Yah like Donald Trump accidentally using Epstein's private jet for current campaign. It's not his fault he didn't recognize it. He said he only flew it on "at least 7 times" . 🤣🤣🤣
If you are like me and wondering why they didn’t just ask the artist himself, he died in 1984 at the age of 38 from a heart attack after doing a fundraiser event which triggered an unknown heart defect.
Thanks for posting the info. I knew he had passed on but forgotten it was so long ago. He worked for Playboy magazine if I remember correctly, along with whatever freelance work etc. I love his style, it's a shame he died so young, makes you wonder what he might have created if he stuck around. Sure glad this popped up, cool little trivia clip.
Not to be disrespectful, but the time in place evokes images of certain types of lines that have nothing to do with his art if you know what I'm saying
@@murrayshekelberg9754 I disagree. Steve Jobs famously said a good artist copies, but a great artist steals… and he probably stole that quote from Picasso…
I could sit down right now with 3 magazines and find someone that looks like her. Heck, when I was 21 someone even told ME I looked like Rio. She also was NOT the "actual" model, just because this superfan dude with 3 cats and an art room said so.
🤯🤯🤯 I was a Duran Duran fan as a kid and adolescent (still am) - not simply the music, but the entire fashion aesthetic. I was mildly obsessed with Nagel’s art - what I could find of it, back in the internet-less 80s, when you just hoped to come across a new poster at Spencer’s, in the mall. I used to try and replicate his drawings - alas, not successfully. In a sense, it always felt like Nagel was a member of Duran Duran.
I collected everything Nagel for over thirty years now. FINALLY, my aesthetic changed, and now i'm trying to sell my large Nagel prints and nobody will buy them! It makes me sad that there's so little interest in his art anymore.
And I almost forgot to compliment her on her very beautiful smile that she still has to this day his mind blowing how beautiful she still is and that smile that smile says a million. Absolutely love her smile...🩷💚💜💙🩵
Love the pop art Nagel produced. I own a hand painted porcelain necklace by a local artist who did an exact replica of one of Nagel's images. I always get positive comments when I wear it. I understand this guys passion for collecting Nagel.
I can't be the only person like this, but frequently, general curiosity me drives to do a little more detective work, to learn a more about some aspect of something I have seen online or read in a book. This time my curiosity turned up, just from a few searches on the World Wide Web, that Patrick Nagel and Marcie Hunt appear to share a birthday too! Born in different years, but both on 25 November.
Of course, it was right there in the lyrics all along. "In touch with the ground I'm Marci Hunt, I'm after you Smell like I sound, I'm lost in a crowd And I'm hungry like the wolf"
@@user-hx7mi7ml8u It's a joke. I'll explain how humor works. First there's the setup, the expectation of how you think it will go. Then there's the joke, where you think it's going to be one thing but it's actually another. Groucho Marx: "Last night I shot an elephant in my pajamas." ( Expectation, he was in his pajamas when he shot the elephant. ) Groucho: "How he got into my pajamas, I'll never know" ( Delivery, the ol' switcheroo ) "I'm Marci Hunt, I'm after you." - 2:25
I dont really care for 80's design aesthetic but Im fascinated by its birth in the late 70's and how it trickled down from design and fashion houses into the mainstream.
@@Thunderchild-gz4gcI like the skinny ties and narrow collars that Bowie and the power pop bands started wearing 78-79. its cool watching old footage of the Cars or Cheap Trick and they are wearing in '78 what everyone else started wearing '83-84
in more stable times in a country that isn't designed to be against its own citizens, his skills could have been useful as a intelligence agency analyst
I question if this is actually the same woman the artist used as a model. It seems like he found a model. that was "close enough" and wanted to end his search.
I have loved Patrick Nagel since the 1980s, I was taking art classes in school because I was inspired by his work. I was devastated when he died. This story brings back so many memories. Thanks to Mark Walker for his passion for Nagel art and bringing this story to us. Keep up the hunt! You should get with the Nagel family and publish a book on your search and hunt and bring Nagel art to a new generation!
This is fascinating. I always wondered what the reference points were for those weirdly iconic paintings that hung in every hair salon in the world for a brief period of time... Even in rural Alberta posters of his work were here...
Wow! That's Wild Boys. In this Ordinary World, there are some people like this guy who are truly special. I can't imagine spending my life looking for Girls on Film and matching them to Nagel paintings. Let's Save a Prayer for this guy and hopes he finds them all.
I was a teenager in the 80s and graduated HS in So Cal 1987. Nagel was still a thing, and my artistic HS buddy painted up several light blue Levi jackets with Nagel paintings on the back. I remember walking the mall with him in Escondido and him getting lots of compliments from girls.
Pretty cool. I bought Rio in '82 with my chores money. I was 10. I pinned the album cover on my wall above my phonograph which spun Rio. I still have the original record, sleeve, and cover. Great band. Still a great band.
that is definitely her. Same iconic smile and eyes. Pretty lady :) Everyone had a fascination about something in our childhood. Glad people pursue them regardless of where life takes you!
What great research!! ❤️ This is great learning this bcuz when growing up, I felt artists their own pics. Nagel made enough changes to make it look original. A teacher once said "To prevent copyright infringement, make 50 changes." I use a series of pics that I piece together.
Fascinating piece! All I could think as a graphic arts professional working in entertainment, is that had this creation of a commercial artwork that's based on an unlicensed advertising photo been done today, the result would be a high dollar lawsuit by either the product's company, the photographer, or both. The model most likely signed a release and would have only been paid for the session Back then there weren't so many lawyers on the prowl looking to drum up business as there are today.
I don't know. I don't think it would be a matter of the relative litigiousness today, but the technology available today. Lawyers don't look where they have no reason to suspect anything. It took this guy years to match these photos to Nagel's works, and the only reason he was looking is because he had a pet theory that he would find matches. I mean, not even the woman knew she might be the Duran Duran girl until forty years after the album came out. Plus, I'm not sure how many of these magazines are even digitized and downloaded into the cloud so they could be accessed easily. Unless lawyers have a reason to send themselves or their staff to sift through hundreds of magazines, they won't do it. But with AI and things like reverse image searches these days, it wouldn't take days sifting through magazines; it would take only an image, a webcrawler, and some kind of image analyzer that can spit out a statistic showing how similar or different two images are. That said, Nagel (or at least his estate) might still become party to a lawsuit like the one you described. Because if this guy's research has legs, and Nagel really did use these magazine photographs to produce these works, then whoever owns the rights to the images could mount a suit...even today. As the author of the theory, this Mark Walker guy would be the star witness in such a suit.
@@leodf1 I'm not a lawyer, so this isn't legal advice. That said, I'm not sure the "fair use" permissions that were developed in 1976 would have much bearing for objects created before that time, like the Warhol paintings. For objects created after that time? I think it would depend largely on whether the intent was "transformative" or not. In other words, if the intent was to transform the image into something that transcends the original, it falls under fair use.
@@Beatnik59 Warhol never had any issues afaik, and all he did was a palette swap. I'm going to have to disagree with the OP on this. The image is substantially transformed. As an aside, I can see what motivates the guy in the video. There's a certain satisfaction knowing the beautiful poster is a real-life person somewhere out there. Thanks for the response
I remember as a teen in the 80's being _obsessed_ with Nagel, as all my friends were as well. Seeing that album pic I still get that feeling, such flawless art
I love stories like this. How many little mysteries like this exist in our world? And while everyone else goes about their day to day, sometimes one person commits to a quest that makes life a little deeper and a little richer.
I had a chance to buy a numbered lithograph of "Texas" (the picture on that album cover) for $300 in 1985. I still kick myself that I didn't do it. ARGH.
As a young girl growing up in the 70s snd 80s, my parents had Nagle prints hanging. I wanted to grow up to be a Patrick Nagle girl. Those prints were a big part of my adolescence.
So, the good news is the Rio girl was REAL, and has been identified. Bad news, she’s on Medicare and Social Security. Great. Another reminder of how OLD we are. 😣
My mother is the original Nagel model. It was an accident as well. My mother was not a professional model. She is unrecognized and unknown. But I have an original print with the message “To Evelyn, as the world will remember you” signed Patrick Nagel. The print is known as “sunglasses” the original image. The model stated for that image is incorrect. It’s my mom.
@@savagecatgt possibly. I need to figure out how to do this as it’s really for business. May I ask why you want physical proof? (Aside from idle curiosity?)
Wow that’s awesome! My mom has some lovely paintings of her that I really cherish - so that’s a very cool way that your mom was immortalized in! And awesome to have a note, definitely never lose that!!! 😂❤❤
@@NonstopFFriday I am not the one insisting something looks exact that doesn’t. I didn’t say it wasn’t, but I don’t see a strong or exact match like others do. Big deal. Simply asked how they were certain…delulu-betchya use that for anyone who has a differing opinion-dontchya? ;-P
Funny thing is, she is also painted on the wall of a Napa school because fans/artists did it as a mural without knowing any of this. It was done in 1985? Ish...😊❤
Weird. I have a bunch of Nagel Serigraphs. Most of them were purchased in the Santa Monica Gallery. I'm not sure why this is news; we have known this for years. I do give kudos to the gentleman doing all of the research. And his find is absolutely amazing!
@@andreabradley5837 Neve said it wasn't legal... Just that he didn't get rights first. IANAL... That said, my question is more of a moral one than a legal one. It's one of the things I always liked about Weird Al. He didn't "have to get permission" to do his parodies, but he always asked first, because he felt it was the right thing to do...
@@desiv1170 I get that. I have done portraits from others photos. With the exception of one they have been altered in color and conception. If I were a famous, successful artist I would probably try to touch base with the people who influenced me.
Illustrators do this all the time, and I know. The fact that no one could tell without considerable detective work shows that Nagel was trying to avoid recognizability. He removed the glasses among other changes.
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Nagel print posters were in every hair salon.
ARE. Not were.
There were a LOT of Nagle "knock offs" too... it became a very copied "look" of the 80s'
That is so true!
Still are, LOL.
and as classy as black lacquer furniture.
....It's actually a pretty big deal finding the actual Model who was used for "Rio", because the Album cover became so ICONIC......I know Nagel's work is now called the "Nail Shop Lady" in Urban Neighborhoods! ...ha-HAA!
I see you everywhere now. That means you have good taste! 😎
Was she a model or just an inspiration for Nagel’s art Rio cover?
@@tommydong8070
2:08 Well, she was in the magazine, so I'm saying, "Yes."
@@tommydong8070 I think it's conjecture BS.
This guy is a epic, EPIC, real life character. What a talent. Some people may say his efforts are unnecessary or meaningless but to seek for so long and to find the original images… and through his years of fascination and experience with Nagel’s style, he actually finds the original inspirational images. Mindblowing!
He even has his haircut/beard/glasses style!
My older brother had the album back in the 80's. We're big DD fans. Many years later he was in Tokyo and contracted by Funimation for their anime buying contractual work. The manga artists he spoke with said Nagel's works are "revered" because they look Japanese in style.
Nah, not so much
He's like if I had 3 expressos and a monster energy drink with 3 prozacs and then I won a trip to Disneyland and found my long-lost daughter. but all at the same time.
AGREED
What a classic find! So, cool she lives in Napa!
...and her name is Rio and she likes sand.
She still has her amazing eyes and smile 100%
It seems that she did not have any plastic surgery done to her face. She looks good. Aging naturally is best.
Her smile hasn't lost a single watt 💡
The hero we didn't know we needed. I salute you, sir.
Dude, this guy is weird.
Despite her age, the eyes and mouth are unmistakable.
She's in Napa because her "mouth is alive with juices like wine"
She's living her best life. I like that for her!
The nexus of Nagel, Duran Duran and actual female models is an erotic intoxication that has consumed this man’s inner peace. Someone should write a novel about him.
When I made my own original Nagel style painting I did the same thing, I just used a model photo from an advertisement.
Eww
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We all had a Nagel and a Countach poster on our walls in the early eighties! Cool detective work!
Yep. I wanted one for my birthday. Especially if it had the girls from, "The Cannonball Run."
Very true! I also had a poster of a Porsche 930 parked on the wet sand at the surfline with a surfboard sticking out of it and a smoking brunette in a half wetsuit coming out the drivers door....."Einmalig" (which is, I believe, German for "unique")
was the title.
Still have my Lambo and Porche posters... and the rest of my 80s posters somewhere... Heather Thomas fav
I still have a Nagel poster in my garage, along with my Miami Vice one.
"countach"...haven't heard that word forever. i'm flooded with memories now.
She’s still gorgeous, still has a beautiful smile
Indeed!
As soon as they showed her I could see that smile
@@earthwormandruw It was a cherry ice cream smile. 😊
I think the smile looks terrifying. Like a clown
Wow, those lips. She is still beautiful.
Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand. 🎸
I live only a couple of miles from that “river twistin’ through the dusty land”. I love that song and love the album cover!
Just like that river twisting through a dusty land...
@@hunterjones9822 And when she shines, she really shows you all she can
@@4862cjc Oh Rio Rio dance across the Rio Grande....
Solved!
“Heartbreak at 10,000 Feet” is the song in the background.
Great job recognizing it! I wonder if they didnt use a Duran Duran song bcuz of the license cost of using their songs. 🤷🏼♀️
Yeah but even the song on the background, has a Duran Duran look like beat 😊
You are a legend
THANK YOU! I was wondering.
News outlets and other YTers, would it kill ya to put musical credits in your video descriptions??
Thanks so much for recognizing this song. This has a Duran Duran, Heaven 17 and Human League sound to it. It’s on my playlist now. Much appreciated🙏🏾😊
Now that was awesome. Let's keep hearing about stuff like this, instead of the constant negative bombardment.
Yeah indeed 😊
But this isn't real news. It's an interest piece. Not talking about the negative things leaves us poorly informed and possibly in danger.
Until we come to the comments and see you reminding us about all the negativity we are missing out on. (Just a joke no offense meant)
Agreed!
Yah like Donald Trump accidentally using Epstein's private jet for current campaign. It's not his fault he didn't recognize it. He said he only flew it on "at least 7 times" . 🤣🤣🤣
If you are like me and wondering why they didn’t just ask the artist himself, he died in 1984 at the age of 38 from a heart attack after doing a fundraiser event which triggered an unknown heart defect.
Thanks for posting the info. I knew he had passed on but forgotten it was so long ago. He worked for Playboy magazine if I remember correctly, along with whatever freelance work etc. I love his style, it's a shame he died so young, makes you wonder what he might have created if he stuck around. Sure glad this popped up, cool little trivia clip.
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Not to be disrespectful, but the time in place evokes images of certain types of lines that have nothing to do with his art if you know what I'm saying
he was a plagiarist, no big loss
@@murrayshekelberg9754 I disagree. Steve Jobs famously said a good artist copies, but a great artist steals… and he probably stole that quote from Picasso…
Every Union Street SF Gallery had Nagels in 84.
Whoever chose the background music, nice touch! Very 80's.
Name of song, please. Thanks
@@SueUTube I have no idea, but it sounds very 80's.
@@SueUTube
Try using Shazam to identify the song. I think Google phones also identify songs, but I forget the app name.
Heartbreak at 10000 Feet. It was used in Halt and Catch Fire, but it isnt by a musical act, its commercial music from a production company.
@@fletchbg I like this notion, as if never ever before music was commissioned.
The art & style of the 80’s has aged like a fine wine. I was there. At its best, it was an effervescent time.
People who weren't "there" in the 80's just don't understand why we long for it and why it was such a special time unlike any other.
I think it’s impressive someone was able to identify and locate the actual model after all these years.
I could sit down right now with 3 magazines and find someone that looks like her. Heck, when I was 21 someone even told ME I looked like Rio. She also was NOT the "actual" model, just because this superfan dude with 3 cats and an art room said so.
I certainly hope he knows he has access to every magazine at our Library of Congress' National Archives in College Park, MD. And you do, too! Free!
🤯🤯🤯 I was a Duran Duran fan as a kid and adolescent (still am) - not simply the music, but the entire fashion aesthetic. I was mildly obsessed with Nagel’s art - what I could find of it, back in the internet-less 80s, when you just hoped to come across a new poster at Spencer’s, in the mall. I used to try and replicate his drawings - alas, not successfully.
In a sense, it always felt like Nagel was a member of Duran Duran.
Exactly!
Same. Late 90’s through the early 2000’s I could find maybe one Nagel a month at a goodwill or estate sale. They’ve dried up since about 2012 or so
Man, Spencer's. I realize they were around before and still are, but nobody decorated an 80s middle-America teen bedroom like Spencer's!
I collected everything Nagel for over thirty years now. FINALLY, my aesthetic changed, and now i'm trying to sell my large Nagel prints and nobody will buy them! It makes me sad that there's so little interest in his art anymore.
@@whutzat the vintage Rio t shirts is where the interest still is. I swear they’re value is higher than the art right now
I used to have a friend that collected two things: His walls were full of Nagels AND Porcelain Harlequin Mask. Scary Mary.
Same here. My best friend had about 5 or 6 Nagels. All of them professionally framed and hung. I think even 1 of them was an original. Cost a fortune.
I collect skin lamps
@@Iwilldestroyyoowhat a waste of good skin
Those porcelain masks just make me think of Mardi Gras, but I grew up near New Orleans! They’re still everywhere there.
Very 80s is all. We had the Nagels , the "Rio album cover" ones on our walls.
And I almost forgot to compliment her on her very beautiful smile that she still has to this day his mind blowing how beautiful she still is and that smile that smile says a million. Absolutely love her smile...🩷💚💜💙🩵
Love the pop art Nagel produced. I own a hand painted porcelain necklace by a local artist who did an exact replica of one of Nagel's images. I always get positive comments when I wear it. I understand this guys passion for collecting Nagel.
Great detective work and story! She looks fabulous!
I can't be the only person like this, but frequently, general curiosity me drives to do a little more detective work, to learn a more about some aspect of something I have seen online or read in a book. This time my curiosity turned up, just from a few searches on the World Wide Web, that Patrick Nagel and Marcie Hunt appear to share a birthday too! Born in different years, but both on 25 November.
Nagel’s prints are oozing the eighties. I remember them everywhere.
Nagel prints will always be awesome. Duran is great as well…musicianship-wise
He is doing what every art historian does - finding the artists' sources. Great eye, Well done!
Even now, when she smiles her eyes have that same spark and look about them.
Nagel was such an icon of my childhood. Those trips to the hair salon where my mom would get her hair done posted his images everywhere.
Wow! He's impressive. Great eyes for spotting this.
Of course, it was right there in the lyrics all along.
"In touch with the ground
I'm Marci Hunt, I'm after you
Smell like I sound, I'm lost in a crowd
And I'm hungry like the wolf"
“I’m on the hunt, I’m after you.”..
You win the internets.
@@user-hx7mi7ml8u Russian bot doesn't get puns.
@@user-hx7mi7ml8u It's a joke. I'll explain how humor works. First there's the setup, the expectation of how you think it will go. Then there's the joke, where you think it's going to be one thing but it's actually another.
Groucho Marx: "Last night I shot an elephant in my pajamas."
( Expectation, he was in his pajamas when he shot the elephant. )
Groucho: "How he got into my pajamas, I'll never know"
( Delivery, the ol' switcheroo )
"I'm Marci Hunt, I'm after you." - 2:25
@@fifthridernothing ever went over your head, ever? Remarkable.
I dont really care for 80's design aesthetic but Im fascinated by its birth in the late 70's and how it trickled down from design and fashion houses into the mainstream.
Some is OK some isn't. Those porcelain masks are creepy.
@@Thunderchild-gz4gcI like the skinny ties and narrow collars that Bowie and the power pop bands started wearing 78-79. its cool watching old footage of the Cars or Cheap Trick and they are wearing in '78 what everyone else started wearing '83-84
As someone who is on the HFA spectrum myself, I can relate to his obsessive special interest, and I am glad he has found success in his search.
in more stable times in a country that isn't designed to be against its own citizens, his skills could have been useful as a intelligence agency analyst
@@cagneybillingsley2165we have A.I. for that, and easily this hobby of his
I question if this is actually the same woman the artist used as a model. It seems like he found a model. that was "close enough" and wanted to end his search.
This was an unexpected and interesting little treat, thank you for posting! Great job to the narrator and detective work
I have loved Patrick Nagel since the 1980s, I was taking art classes in school because I was inspired by his work. I was devastated when he died. This story brings back so many memories. Thanks to Mark Walker for his passion for Nagel art and bringing this story to us. Keep up the hunt! You should get with the Nagel family and publish a book on your search and hunt and bring Nagel art to a new generation!
you must be kidding. he was an example of everything that was wrong with the 80s.
His family won't publicize that he copied his works.
Can still light a room to this day. Extraordinary❤️
This is fascinating. I always wondered what the reference points were for those weirdly iconic paintings that hung in every hair salon in the world for a brief period of time... Even in rural Alberta posters of his work were here...
I clearly remember Nagel's work from the early 80's, looking at it makes me think of Miami Vice and other such "Me Decade" nostalgia. 😊
Wow! That's Wild Boys. In this Ordinary World, there are some people like this guy who are truly special. I can't imagine spending my life looking for Girls on Film and matching them to Nagel paintings. Let's Save a Prayer for this guy and hopes he finds them all.
Same, great smile.
like siouxie and the banshees look of the 80s
? not really
@@pb4595 I mean, there's one image that's the first image that pops up that does look similar.
loved siouxie and the banshees!
@@tomandgerit.2157 Me too, musical idol of mine!
Poor siouxie can’t sing anymore
She just has one of those million dollar smiles.
This is such a cool story. Duran Duran is one of my favorite 80s band, and of course Rio is still a great album.
The best!
💯 Rio is an all time great album, goes way deeper than just the hits.
A story involving Duran Duran where it's not Duran Duran playing in the background 😂
Who'da thunk we'd be getting breaking DD news 40 years later?? WoooHooooo!!
I was a teenager in the 80s and graduated HS in So Cal 1987. Nagel was still a thing, and my artistic HS buddy painted up several light blue Levi jackets with Nagel paintings on the back. I remember walking the mall with him in Escondido and him getting lots of compliments from girls.
Pretty cool. I bought Rio in '82 with my chores money. I was 10. I pinned the album cover on my wall above my phonograph which spun Rio. I still have the original record, sleeve, and cover. Great band. Still a great band.
Wow, she’s still so gorgeous!!
that is definitely her. Same iconic smile and eyes. Pretty lady :)
Everyone had a fascination about something in our childhood. Glad people pursue them regardless of where life takes you!
She is still stunningly beautiful.
I honestly thought his paintings were inspired by his wife! Jennifer Dumas! Look it up!
You're right. This guy is off his rocker.
One of many inspirations
He wasn't going to go admit he copying magazine pictures.
I love this! I was a huge Duran Duran fan and had these posters on my wall. Yes, she was and still is beautiful. ❤❤❤
She still has a gorgeous smile! I've always loved Nagel; he had such a mastery of line.
That's a unique hobby he has there. Never knew I needed to know who was the inspiration for the Duran Duran album. very cool
Marci still looks amazing
I really miss my youth. The 70s and 80s were so much fun.
I always thought it was the same woman in all of Nagel's work.
It is.
The 80's will forever be the best decade
This brings a smile to my face! Keep searching!
So nostalgic! What an EXCELLENT piece! I’m definitely going to look up Nagle now!
*Nagel
They hardly spoke to Marcie Hunt! Btw, what song is playing in the first half of the segment?
The song is called "heartbeat at 10,000 ft".
@@juantime9616 Thank you!
@@juantime9616 I couldn't find it. Who is the artist??
Oh,I remember these so vividly,what times it was....
What great research!! ❤️ This is great learning this bcuz when growing up, I felt artists their own pics. Nagel made enough changes to make it look original. A teacher once said "To prevent copyright infringement, make 50 changes." I use a series of pics that I piece together.
OCD/ADHD brains are wild with the dopamine/validation seeking.
Nothing wrong with his obsession,to me it's kinda cool.
L
Doesn’t look like her. Looks more like model, Shalom Harlow
@@Oyuki-Mayonesa Also looks like the singer from the band Swing Out Sister
Fascinating piece! All I could think as a graphic arts professional working in entertainment, is that had this creation of a commercial artwork that's based on an unlicensed advertising photo been done today, the result would be a high dollar lawsuit by either the product's company, the photographer, or both. The model most likely signed a release and would have only been paid for the session Back then there weren't so many lawyers on the prowl looking to drum up business as there are today.
I don't know. I don't think it would be a matter of the relative litigiousness today, but the technology available today.
Lawyers don't look where they have no reason to suspect anything. It took this guy years to match these photos to Nagel's works, and the only reason he was looking is because he had a pet theory that he would find matches. I mean, not even the woman knew she might be the Duran Duran girl until forty years after the album came out. Plus, I'm not sure how many of these magazines are even digitized and downloaded into the cloud so they could be accessed easily. Unless lawyers have a reason to send themselves or their staff to sift through hundreds of magazines, they won't do it.
But with AI and things like reverse image searches these days, it wouldn't take days sifting through magazines; it would take only an image, a webcrawler, and some kind of image analyzer that can spit out a statistic showing how similar or different two images are.
That said, Nagel (or at least his estate) might still become party to a lawsuit like the one you described. Because if this guy's research has legs, and Nagel really did use these magazine photographs to produce these works, then whoever owns the rights to the images could mount a suit...even today. As the author of the theory, this Mark Walker guy would be the star witness in such a suit.
@@Beatnik59 What about the fair use creative changes he did, on a different medium too. Like the Warhol Monroe collage. Would that be enough?
@@leodf1 I'm not a lawyer, so this isn't legal advice. That said, I'm not sure the "fair use" permissions that were developed in 1976 would have much bearing for objects created before that time, like the Warhol paintings. For objects created after that time? I think it would depend largely on whether the intent was "transformative" or not. In other words, if the intent was to transform the image into something that transcends the original, it falls under fair use.
@@Beatnik59 Warhol never had any issues afaik, and all he did was a palette swap. I'm going to have to disagree with the OP on this. The image is substantially transformed. As an aside, I can see what motivates the guy in the video. There's a certain satisfaction knowing the beautiful poster is a real-life person somewhere out there. Thanks for the response
Pretty cool! It's awesome to finally see the face that inspired the cover!
I remember as a teen in the 80's being _obsessed_ with Nagel, as all my friends were as well. Seeing that album pic I still get that feeling, such flawless art
The song used in this video is "Heartbreak at 10,000 Feet" by Jamie Kaleth
I grew up loving Nagel! This was super cool. Thanks.
Woman in the art looks like Corrine Drewery of Swing Out Sister (from the song Breakout)
Or one of Robert Palmer's girls in the video Addicted to Love
It's ironic that her photos were plastered all over beauty shops everywhere, yet she ended up with that perm.
LOL
How random and awesome!
Huge fan class of ‘81 Long Beach CA! 🌴✨
Had one of the poster
I love stories like this. How many little mysteries like this exist in our world? And while everyone else goes about their day to day, sometimes one person commits to a quest that makes life a little deeper and a little richer.
Best story ever! ❤❤❤
I had a chance to buy a numbered lithograph of "Texas" (the picture on that album cover) for $300 in 1985. I still kick myself that I didn't do it. ARGH.
Nagels, New Wave and Porsches. What a time.
Wow Rio is so iconic and she still an amazing smile still love Duran Duran too
My first two CDs were Duran Duran’s Rio and Seven and the Ragged Tiger.
Very interesting!
That is pretty cool
Amazing
What in interesting, cool hobby/obsession. The inspiration is still gorgeous. What a smile.
As a young girl growing up in the 70s snd 80s, my parents had Nagle prints hanging. I wanted to grow up to be a Patrick Nagle girl. Those prints were a big part of my adolescence.
How did you turn out.
@@leodf1 I have to say, I'm pretty happy with how I turned out!
@@belajadevotchka2 Why don't you and I meet up. I'll let you know how you compare.
@@leodf1 Sorry, I'm married. My husband's is the only opinion that matters to me!
Wow that smile!!! Still gorgeous!!
We collected Nagel art back then as well, including a limited Playboy edition, which was signed by Nagel's wife, after his passing.
Amazing!!!
So, the good news is the Rio girl was REAL, and has been identified. Bad news, she’s on Medicare and Social Security. Great. Another reminder of how OLD we are. 😣
My mother is the original Nagel model. It was an accident as well. My mother was not a professional model.
She is unrecognized and unknown. But I have an original print with the message “To Evelyn, as the world will remember you” signed Patrick Nagel.
The print is known as “sunglasses” the original image. The model stated for that image is incorrect. It’s my mom.
Are you attractive like your mom?
Can you post proof in a TH-cam video and link it here?
@@savagecatgt possibly. I need to figure out how to do this as it’s really for business.
May I ask why you want physical proof? (Aside from idle curiosity?)
Wow that’s awesome! My mom has some lovely paintings of her that I really cherish - so that’s a very cool way that your mom was immortalized in! And awesome to have a note, definitely never lose that!!! 😂❤❤
Rio and Sunglasses are my two favorites! I have them still on my wall from Christmas 1988!
Ok so they look similar. But how do they know for certain?
They don't look similar, they look exact
@@nicoletrudell2065 not to me
@@tcm087the artwork lines up one to one with the photo and the photo came first. Delulu
@@NonstopFFriday I am not the one insisting something looks exact that doesn’t. I didn’t say it wasn’t, but I don’t see a strong or exact match like others do. Big deal. Simply asked how they were certain…delulu-betchya use that for anyone who has a differing opinion-dontchya? ;-P
I love Nagel and Mukai. I still have their lithographs in my house.
So do I! And I'm not taking them down.
Happy Duran Duran Appreciation Day!
So cool that he found Rio!
Loved Nagel’s work as well!
Wow i did not know that Duran Duran were awsome.
Amazing! She was world famous for forty years... and didn't know it. Great job, sir.
I read somewhere that Gia Carangi was one of Patrick Nagel's muses. I wouldn't doubt that Joan Severance was one as well.
I always thought that the Nagel "Rio" was the woman in the Rio video. There's a moment in the video that shows the exact pose from the Nagel print.
Rio, it's one of my favorite bass lines of all time. It should only be listened to on premium audio equipment, at a substantial volume
Funny thing is, she is also painted on the wall of a Napa school because fans/artists did it as a mural without knowing any of this. It was done in 1985? Ish...😊❤
Weird. I have a bunch of Nagel Serigraphs. Most of them were purchased in the Santa Monica Gallery. I'm not sure why this is news; we have known this for years. I do give kudos to the gentleman doing all of the research. And his find is absolutely amazing!
Wait, Nagel was just tracing existing photos he didn't have rights for?
Hmm... Not sure what I think about that actually...
You can legally do an artistic interpretation of a photo.
@@andreabradley5837 Neve said it wasn't legal... Just that he didn't get rights first. IANAL...
That said, my question is more of a moral one than a legal one.
It's one of the things I always liked about Weird Al. He didn't "have to get permission" to do his parodies, but he always asked first, because he felt it was the right thing to do...
@@desiv1170 I get that. I have done portraits from others photos. With the exception of one they have been altered in color and conception. If I were a famous, successful artist I would probably try to touch base with the people who influenced me.
Illustrators do this all the time, and I know. The fact that no one could tell without considerable detective work shows that Nagel was trying to avoid recognizability. He removed the glasses among other changes.