Dark Dimension- Defending the Most Hated Remake in Geometry Dash (Ft. Phantom7Ks)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Me and Phantom7ks (host of Dark Dimension) would like to talk about drama surrounding the level and why hate towards remakes of levels like Black Blizzard is unjustified. Phantom7ks will also tell you about the status of Dark Dimension, what he intends to do with the demon and when we can expect the second preview!
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Thanks again to Phantom7Ks for making this video with me! What do you think of remakes of famous Geometry Dash levels? What about Dark Dimension in particular? Let me know. If you liked this video, you'll love the similar one I made on Lunar Demise 3 months ago! th-cam.com/video/1aZLo6ex3nA/w-d-xo.html
sorry to everyone to my shitty english and the 73 cuts in my voice xd, it was my first time commenting to a video lol
The Purgatory Supremacy
How come this and lunar demise were hated but edge of destiny wasnt. Proboboly just because culuc was in it.
eod never destroyed the essence of the original levels
these levels just could not live up to the quality of the original
@@Dan1el2563 Based on the preveiws and comparison they greatly surpass the origionals they just arent as " impresive for the time " as the otigional, which i dont care about and also its basicaly imposible to be inovative anymore because everythings been done.
@@s.fflanger8747 by quality by the way i was not talking about deco and gp, but the qualities of what they are trying to be, and what they meant to convey, but yeah, it's really hard to be creative now
@@Dan1el2563 Why do you think that putting a unique spin on a remake is “destroying the essence of the original”?
I just wonder why these 2 levels are really hated while Edge Of Destiny is well praised by the same community. I mean BOJ is a legendary level as well so yeah.
All 3 of those remakes followed the same formula; buffing the OG level and adding newer stuffs to be a remake. I hope someone can point that out
Because eod builds off the original in such a cool way that doesnt feel like a rip off. Dd just tries a lot of things and doesnt really execute it all that well imo
@@VTB_GD the only thing edge of destiny does is redecorate and buff it. By now, I’m sick of all these levels that call themselves remakes when they’re just redecorations and buffs.
@@Periwinkleaccountit doesn't even buff it, it just builds off of unnerfed boj
and bloodlust (i will always maintain my opinion that that level is ugly af)
@@AustynL I’m pretty sure that it’s actually just a rebalanced version of the unnerfed version, so it’s still effectively just harder BOJ.
i really like some of the recent showcases of dark dimension. My main criticism is that i would make the sound effects less aggressive. I think that if they are noticable but don't try to fight with the song, they could work REALLY well, but they need to do a little work to get there.
I was around when black blizzard released, and i like the current state of this remake.
I don't think you can "deface" the legacy of the original level. However, Dark Dimension and Lunar Demise still could not live up to Black Blizzard and Death moon due to how revolutionary they were. Remakes will only live up to these levels once 2.2 comes out; 2.1 effects have almost maxxed out.
2.1 effects have not almost maxxed out, we still see revolutionary concepts in levels such as pxttxrn sxxkxr, limbo, since i met you, and WHAT. dark dimension just isnt one of them :)
I love this level, i dont know why people hate it.
I'm personally not a huge fan of Dark Dimension, let alone Lunar Demise. This doesn't mean that I think they should be hated or that they shouldn't exist as remakes (I mean, if you wanna remake a level then go ahead), but I'm not a huge fan of it. I am, however, a fan of Edge of Destiny. Now, I know this sounds bad considering the context of this video and how this comment section started, so I'm gonna explain why I think that is the case, for me and for many others:
Remakes in general have had some bad reputations over the years. Some of them for better reasons than others, like how Riot Demise exists only to be a hard Bloodbath yet again afaik, probably making it the most unoriginal modern remake. This goes for Lunar Demise aswell, it's just a hard Death Moon. Same for Dark Dimension, it's just a hard Black Blizzard. However, the reason why I think Edge of Destiny was mostly accepted in those regards, since it is also just a hard Blade of Justice, is because of verification context of the original.
Death Moon might aswell not exist to players nowadays. It's an awesome level that broke the boundaries of creation at the time, but it's nothing outstanding anymore, neither in terms of decoration nor difficulty. So the question for the modern player is: Why does this random easy demon need a remake?
Black Blizzard has a slightly different case. The verifier never changed, it was always KrmaL and the level was always supposed to be hard. If it hadn't been for the leak at the time, we wouldn't know nearly as much about the unnerfed Black Blizzard as we do now. The difficulty difference was big, but nothing a modern player couldn't handle. So the question is again, why does this random extreme demon need a remake? Especially considering the fact that KrmaL insisted upon verifying the level, that the unnerfed shouldn't be considered anymore and that the verified Black Blizzard should be called the unnerfed version, and players at the time still got a decently hard level, that wouldn't be beaten so easily.
Blade of Justice suffered the same fate but far, far worse. The amount of spots this level fell compared to it's unnerfed state was enormous and I'm honestly not sure how Manix and Lazerblitz could ever think that the unnerfed could be beaten at the time. Despite this, the unnerfed Blade of Justice was hyped up by everyone and their mother to be the next big thing after even Bloodlust, which was an unthinkable difficulty at the time. Seeing it get nerfed into the ground and then be beaten by Wooshi in less than 2 hours after it was finally verified after many verifiers had tried and failed to complete the unnerfed was devastating. A remake of the unnerfed Blade of Justice, trying to be brought back to glory by it's fans, was in my eye inevitable, wherein the biggest difference lies imo.
Now, I can't say that I'm not biased towards BoJ/EoD, because I clearly am, but I feel like this inevitability, or rather the evitability of those remakes make up the difference between the backlash these levels got. I will however look at Dark Dimension in another light now, since I am aware that the same argument can be made for the unnerfed Black Blizzard and it's fans, which is probably why this level exists in the first place (correct me if I'm wrong).
So yeah, I have my preferences, everyone does, but I feel like this is the main reason Dark Dimension got backlash and Edge of Destiny didn't. But please, just let creators build whatever they want, even if it's a remake you personally didn't want.
Yeah, what you’re saying does make some sense, but again, why should it matter whether or not a level “needs” a remake?
@@rootbeerfloathaspop3301 And you're completely right, it doesn't. People can make a remake whenever they want to. I'm argueing that the way the modern community sees if a level needs a remake is what creates this backlash to some extent.
@@velveeeAt a decoration standpoint, Dark Dimension and Lunar Demise have arguably very solid decoration and seem like they are good remakes of their predecessors. While yes, they don't necessarily need a reason do exist, nor do Black Blizzard and Death Moon need to exist either. People make levels because they want them to exist and some people (like you, no offense) just don't realize that. I am completely fine with someone disliking a level as I'm not an elitist who thinks my opinions and mine only are right, but is "they don't need to exist" really a justifiable excuse for a Geometry Dash level opinion? I will be completely honest, you could've said anything else whether that includes the decoration or gameplay, (or something else) but you had to mention the fact that "they don't need to exist"?? So do other levels "not need to exist". It's not like the community collectively wanted every infamous level to be released.
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I would agree, but I personally don't like remakes of Krazy levels. They don't encapsulate the feeling of the original, but maybe this level has hope, as it does has good deco, which fits the theme. I am not saying the level is bad, it is just it is a remake, which means we have to compare the two levels more often when deciding whether it is good or bad.
Basically a remake demotes itself by being a remake rather an original level.
@@Xris10BUL And you know why I disagree with that perspective
I would rather want a sequel than a remake. A sequel can have innovated gameplay that may be inspired by the original level, but is different enough than just a buffed version of the original level. Besides that it is very overhated by the claims I saw in your video.
It looks Fine to me. I have no idea why its so hated.and if they dont wanna play it or see it they can Just ignore the level.
A remake is something reimagined in a different way. With this I can agree with you pretty much 100%, but Dark Dimension was showed to the world in an incompetent way. DD was showcased on LordVaderCraft's channel, who had nothing to do with the level except playtesting, which already makes it look like the creator is desperate for attention. DD also doesn't add much to the level as the deco is imo worse and the gameplay looks more trash than buckle your pants, which explains the hate, since a level like DD is made to recognized by Robtop and that means the level is a representation of what the community has been able to achieve in this game and it's made even worse considering it's a top 10 which makes it have to represent the community in a good way even more. Considering everything, I fully understand why people weren't happy with the level.
I must say though that I don't mean any hate towards the creator and think they are amazing. Finally we get to see a level that hard being made for fun and not for clout. Clearly Dark Dimension as a stand alone level is very good, but as a remake it falls flat. The team made a few mistakes while making DD, but it's fine as long as we learn from them. :)
What’s wrong with getting people like LordVaderCraft to promote a level?
I feel like people would like to play and enjoy a remake to a level they love and if it's just a little bit below their expectation they'll just hate on it, at least that's what makes most sense to me...
bruh phantoms mic is insanely high quality i could definely hear him clearly
Frankly, I dont mind remakes whatsoever. Never did. These specimens who cry on twitter about the level they'll never play never made any sense to me. Someone placed squares on the screen and it's a big enough thing to ruin your day. This might be the reason why people thrash on the gd community so much
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while i understand the hate the first preview got it went a little overboard
Dark Dimension is pretty cool
Ok, now defend Aquamarine. Both are remakes of a level that ALREADY served its purpose (You wouldnt want to see a limbo remake because it already served its purpose) and both have average deco and mid gamplay. This is why the comunity hates remakes, but we love remakes of levels that didnt serve their purpose, like Blade of Justice -> Edge of Destiny (BOJ was supposed to be a top 1 but got nerfed to a top 20). A remake of a level that has already done everything that was supposed to do, is useless, top creators dont have to waste their time with a remake that is useless, but they can spend time on a actually original level.
If it’s so bad to remake levels that served their purpose, then why doesn’t the community hate on levels like Bloodlust? I doubt anyone would argue that Bloodbath didn’t serve its purpose, so what’s the difference here? Once again, it really doesn’t matter what level you’re remaking or how well it served its purpose, because there’s nothing wrong with putting a spin on another’s creation regardless. You don’t need to justify building a Geometry Dash level.
@@rootbeerfloathaspop3301hard agree
i feel the same about it as i do Avernus
As a victor of black blizzard, I just dont like this level because it just is so vastly different from the original. It just goes off the original theme and idea a lot, and doesnt capture the magic of the original. Like the skull part, its just so different and doesnt fit in whatsoever. Do I expect it to meet the original standards? No, but this just veers off the path so much. The creator team can do whatever they want, they fs have the right to do so. This definitely is not one of the worst remakes Ive seen, but I just dont like it that much personally
I personally love to see remakes go in a different direction than the original, but I agree that the skull part is weird
these ppl not caring about bloodlust
I mean I personally disagree with you and I usually think death threats are too far, however some people need the reality check
@@cuminthesink ??????????????
@@rootbeerfloathaspop3301 Not you you're safe gng
@@cuminthesink I need to know what you mean by this comment
the reason the level is bad is because its nothing like black blizzard in theme
Actually, it was already quite similar in theme, and the differences are what made it GOOD imo. But since people have been hating on the Purgatory for trying to build something more original, they’ve decided to make it more like Black Blizzard.
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@@rootbeerfloathaspop3301 🐶
That level is alright ig
I am correct and you are wrong!
I just think Dark Dimension doesn’t live up to the original. The deco is messy imo, and the atmosphere just isn’t there like it is in the original.
Edit: also, I haven’t seen anyone mention this, but why is the name “Dark Dimension”?? I get that the song is called dimension, but they’re taking the whole “blizzard” theme out of the level with that name
the point is that it doesn't need to fully live up to the original
@@delusional9646 seems like a bit of a pointless level then tbh