This is a fantastic video, I appreciate how you put forth the effort to make these in conjunction with the Liberty Rifles. It's a great help in improving my impression.
I wish you guys would do more videos like this again. Even if it's something in the background where you post maybe only one or two a year in addition to your normal videos and shorts. This and your series on lessons of a decade are my favorite of your videos thus far. Though I love all your content
I love how other reenactors say that they never used dark blue or sky blue canteen...and they try telling you this without researching their statements
I carry two canteen both where bullseye one for cooking and the other for drinking water when I was camping with my horse and fix them with short leather strap with snap hooks so I can carry them on my McClellan saddle or on my trucker trail saddle
Outstanding presentation! So now when people say you need to get rid of a spout chain or what ever I can say that both chains and strings or cords were used all during the war right?
Great information! It might not have been surprising to have seen Confederates with gourds for canteens -- Indian-style. Certainly, I would expect to have seen wooden canteens, at least with the Confederates. I'm wondering if any wooden ones might have been pitched with pine "rosin". A soldier could even re-pitch them in he field from rosin from a tree. That kind of field-crafting would have been invaluable for soldiers on the march with no reliance on supply trains -- something that would have been usual for Confederate forces. The idea of covering canteens with cloth is a good point -- not only to muffle sound but, it also insulates them. Yes, cloth straps would make more sense economically.
Enjoyable as always. Question: how would one find out which depot supplied a regiment (say, a regiment from NJ, which is near both Philadelphia and New York)? Was supply collected at the army level, with Philadelphia and New York canteens both being distributed to all the eastern regiments?
Beaguins: Thanks for watching! Unfortunately first hand research like that is the most labor intensive research (at least from my experience). The short answer is to look at the National Archives and in some cases, the Library of Congress (LOC).
I just learned more about canteens than I thought was possible. Thanks. Fantastic job on the video. Really enjoyed it. One question for you though if you don't mind. I know you focus on the 11th OVC, I was wondering if you knew any resources for information on Confederate impressions. I'm doing all the reading I can and going off of what I can find on Google and the like. But there's just not as much information out there. Mainly I'm looking at Texan dismounted cavalry units as well as infantry.
If a soldier was issued a leather strap for his canteen, would he keep that one when the cloth straps were issued or would he be forced to change to cloth?
Joshua, great question! As a general rule, canteens were a very consumable item. In referencing several regiments' clothing issue books, canteens were issued out throughout the war to the same soldiers because they would rust out, get damaged, or otherwise be un-serviceable. This would then result in using whatever strap came with your new canteen. From personal experience, I like the leather one much better than any of the textile ones and would possibly have saved it and used it on my new canteen. Obviously, the specifics are hard to say.
They weren't made with leather shoulder straps until the Indian Wars period. Until then, Union canteens were made with the white cotten shoulder straps, Johnny Rebs, about the same or captured Union canteens were picked picked up from the battlefield.
@@ronaldrobertson2332 You obviously didn't watch the entire clip... Prewar they had leather slings and hundred of thousands was made with leather slings... It was just less common then cloth.
Colton, Oliver Holden was definitely a Cincinnati contractor. From what i have available, he had a contract for 20,000 pewter spout canteens on Sept 1, 1862, another for the new tin spouts on Aug 11, 1863 for 80,000 canteens, and his last contract in Sept of 1863 for another 80,000. All had the sewn cotton strap from what I can tell. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
My canteen was a bullseye with the light blue wool cover and I made a cavalry leather strap with a snap hook so I can carry it on the saddle for cavalry and for trail riding with out wearing over the shoulder and I can also clip it to the belt if I was wearing my saber belt and remove the saber
Christian, that depends on what you are trying to clean out. Due to the wax lining in many canteens, doing much of anything inside of the canteen will destroy the wax lining. For the most part, we generally don't clean our canteens other than rinse them out after events.
In that case, put small gravel (large grain sand) in the canteen, close it up with a cork and shake it all around to get the rust scraped off. After it looks like you have got most of the rust off the inside, pour the gravel/sand out...rinse with clean water a lot (until completely clean). Then proceed to re-wax the inside of your canteen. please see the following link on how to do that. If you have any questions please let me know. How to wax your canteen: th-cam.com/video/QLB6gWRP_Bg/w-d-xo.html
@@11thovc Thank you so much, for both the instructions and the link. Two question on clothing, when it comes to infantry uniforms for the Union, which boots would prefer, and is it better to get them from C&C Sutlery or the Quartermaster?
@@christianstrasmann2877- As far as footwear, if you are doing an infantry impression as a regular soldier, the Jefferson booties (Brogans) would be more accurate. Boots would not. As far as where to buy them, Missouri Boot and Shoe is probably the best large commercial vendor (www.missouribootandshoe.com/u-s-military-brogans--shoes.html). If you can afford those, that is the way to go. If not, your next best bet might be the Regimental QM (regtqm.com/product/m1851-pattern-brogan-pegged/) although I must urge you to try and get Missouri Boot & Shoe products because their leather and construction holds out much better. I have literally run marathons and walked hundreds of miles in both. The MB&S held up much better.
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Your videos are awesome! Very good information and a welcome change for us seeking historical, factual information. Keep up the great work Brother.
Awesome episode I wish there's videos like this on every piece of equipment
Outstanding presentations.
This is a fantastic video, I appreciate how you put forth the effort to make these in conjunction with the Liberty Rifles. It's a great help in improving my impression.
I use a plain smooth side drum canteen. I have a standard sized one and a small one that I use for *eh hem* other liquids
James,
Glad you find use in your smaller one! Thanks for watching!
11th Ohio Volunteer Cavalry gotta have something to carry my “medicine” in
lol
We used to call them "bullseye" canteens during the 125th. And yes-mine had a dark blue wool cover and was made of tin with a pewter spout!
Your amazing! Your presentation is so well done and easy to understand. Can you please do one on everything Civil war binoculars please???
I wish you guys would do more videos like this again. Even if it's something in the background where you post maybe only one or two a year in addition to your normal videos and shorts. This and your series on lessons of a decade are my favorite of your videos thus far. Though I love all your content
Wow
Above and beyond ! ! !
EXCELLENT ! ! !
🙂😎👍
I’m glad you guys do these videos
I love how other reenactors say that they never used dark blue or sky blue canteen...and they try telling you this without researching their statements
I carry two canteen both where bullseye one for cooking and the other for drinking water when I was camping with my horse and fix them with short leather strap with snap hooks so I can carry them on my McClellan saddle or on my trucker trail saddle
Outstanding presentation! So now when people say you need to get rid of a spout chain or what ever I can say that both chains and strings or cords were used all during the war right?
Great information! It might not have been surprising to have seen Confederates with gourds for canteens -- Indian-style. Certainly, I would expect to have seen wooden canteens, at least with the Confederates. I'm wondering if any wooden ones might have been pitched with pine "rosin". A soldier could even re-pitch them in he field from rosin from a tree. That kind of field-crafting would have been invaluable for soldiers on the march with no reliance on supply trains -- something that would have been usual for Confederate forces. The idea of covering canteens with cloth is a good point -- not only to muffle sound but, it also insulates them. Yes, cloth straps would make more sense economically.
Great info! And hey, 20 June is my birthday too!
Jim, Thanks for watching.
Enjoyable as always. Question: how would one find out which depot supplied a regiment (say, a regiment from NJ, which is near both Philadelphia and New York)? Was supply collected at the army level, with Philadelphia and New York canteens both being distributed to all the eastern regiments?
Beaguins:
Thanks for watching! Unfortunately first hand research like that is the most labor intensive research (at least from my experience). The short answer is to look at the National Archives and in some cases, the Library of Congress (LOC).
Great video👍
Thanks Christian Roberts! Thanks for watching!
I just learned more about canteens than I thought was possible. Thanks.
Fantastic job on the video. Really enjoyed it.
One question for you though if you don't mind.
I know you focus on the 11th OVC, I was wondering if you knew any resources for information on Confederate impressions. I'm doing all the reading I can and going off of what I can find on Google and the like. But there's just not as much information out there. Mainly I'm looking at Texan dismounted cavalry units as well as infantry.
If a soldier was issued a leather strap for his canteen, would he keep that one when the cloth straps were issued or would he be forced to change to cloth?
Joshua, great question! As a general rule, canteens were a very consumable item. In referencing several regiments' clothing issue books, canteens were issued out throughout the war to the same soldiers because they would rust out, get damaged, or otherwise be un-serviceable. This would then result in using whatever strap came with your new canteen. From personal experience, I like the leather one much better than any of the textile ones and would possibly have saved it and used it on my new canteen. Obviously, the specifics are hard to say.
They weren't made with leather shoulder straps until the Indian Wars period. Until then, Union canteens were made with the white cotten shoulder straps, Johnny Rebs, about the same or captured Union canteens were picked picked up from the battlefield.
@@ronaldrobertson2332 You obviously didn't watch the entire clip... Prewar they had leather slings and hundred of thousands was made with leather slings... It was just less common then cloth.
I was a bit confused, but are the Philidelphia Depot and Schuylkill Arsenal the same?
The strap on my Cincinnati depot canteen is stamped "O.Holden and co." Do you know any thing about them?
Colton,
Oliver Holden was definitely a Cincinnati contractor. From what i have available, he had a contract for 20,000 pewter spout canteens on Sept 1, 1862, another for the new tin spouts on Aug 11, 1863 for 80,000 canteens, and his last contract in Sept of 1863 for another 80,000. All had the sewn cotton strap from what I can tell. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the info. Also, would Forage caps be seen in large numbers in the western theater? I've always been told a Hardee hat would be more common.
Was it just me or did anyone else lose audio at around the 50 minute mark?
Me as well
this video was made on my birthday sweet
Very informative.
the canteen i had held a half a gallon of water.i had it for like 15 yrs or so
Did you have a rubber canteen? I have been looking for a reproduction resource for rubber canteens for a while.
My canteen was a bullseye with the light blue wool cover and I made a cavalry leather strap with a snap hook so I can carry it on the saddle for cavalry and for trail riding with out wearing over the shoulder and I can also clip it to the belt if I was wearing my saber belt and remove the saber
Once again, an amazing video! (Im going to need a lot of popcorn though)
Thanks again BenBomb5.
How do I clean the inside of a Canteen?
Christian, that depends on what you are trying to clean out. Due to the wax lining in many canteens, doing much of anything inside of the canteen will destroy the wax lining. For the most part, we generally don't clean our canteens other than rinse them out after events.
@@11thovc It looks like rust.
In that case, put small gravel (large grain sand) in the canteen, close it up with a cork and shake it all around to get the rust scraped off. After it looks like you have got most of the rust off the inside, pour the gravel/sand out...rinse with clean water a lot (until completely clean). Then proceed to re-wax the inside of your canteen. please see the following link on how to do that. If you have any questions please let me know.
How to wax your canteen: th-cam.com/video/QLB6gWRP_Bg/w-d-xo.html
@@11thovc Thank you so much, for both the instructions and the link. Two question on clothing, when it comes to infantry uniforms for the Union, which boots would prefer, and is it better to get them from C&C Sutlery or the Quartermaster?
@@christianstrasmann2877- As far as footwear, if you are doing an infantry impression as a regular soldier, the Jefferson booties (Brogans) would be more accurate. Boots would not. As far as where to buy them, Missouri Boot and Shoe is probably the best large commercial vendor (www.missouribootandshoe.com/u-s-military-brogans--shoes.html). If you can afford those, that is the way to go.
If not, your next best bet might be the Regimental QM (regtqm.com/product/m1851-pattern-brogan-pegged/) although I must urge you to try and get Missouri Boot & Shoe products because their leather and construction holds out much better. I have literally run marathons and walked hundreds of miles in both. The MB&S held up much better.
To other cw reenactors....THEY USED DARK BLUE AND SKY BLUE CANTEEN COVERS!!!
They mistake the fact they were only issued early in the war but later recruits had brown ones to save uniform material. But you are definitely right.
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Photo of the one held by the Warmusem in Copenhagen.
musket.dk/wp-content/uploads/P1010686.jpg
More photos of both it, and the other items.
musket.dk/acw/us-uniformer-paa-toejhuset/
Did NY depot ever use webbing?
Alex, yes they did, extensively. Thanks for watching!
Never seen see a video 1 hour talking about civil war canteens
Canteen Boy
Wie kann man über Feldflaschen 1 Stunde und 18 Minuten referieren..;)
Beeindruckendes Fachwissen. Leider interessiert mich nur die preußische und schwedische Armee. Der Zeitraum von 1700 bis 1815.
Hälsningar från Sverige.