Now that the 500i is out the 461 doesn't get enough love. It's a great saw even when not ported its a workhorse. Good stuff Tinman. Long bars save lives!!
Honestly, I think the 500i is overrated; and the 462 is underrated. Looking at the dyno tests a guy over on OPE did, the 462 is nipping at the heals of the 500i, and the 462 has a wider power band and stays in peak power longer than the 500i. Just my $.02 I have a 461 and love it, but have thought hard about getting a 462 instead due to the weight and autotune (err, whatever Stihl calls it).
@@4570levergun Oh, I get it. I'm a carb guy too, but I was very impressed with the autotune on the MS241 I had (miss that little ripper), so the 462 is appealing to me. That said, I ain't giving up my 461 ;)
@@RI-td3gv I get it, but in the side-by-side videos I've seen, the 462 is right there (and in some like Buckin's one video, the 462 beat the 500i). Now, he was running long bars but cutting smaller rounds, so not a fair test if we're talking pulling long bars through big wood. I'd guess the 500i would beat it then. I wouldn't kick either of them out of my pickup ;)
Your videos are awesome, today I worked on the shifting bracket on my truck, and I finished my 268se. I just finished watching your other video where you replace crank seals, I'll double check mine tomorrow.
Completely agree with the long bar. On my lot, one of my favorite tools is the pole saw. Keeps me at a safe distance for limbing down a tangle to big wood where I can then put the big saw to work.
In Michigan we call that type of treeboxelder 461 sounds good I've yet to try a stihl light bar I intend to get one some day great vid hope you get the bugs work out of the 590 I'm itching to see it in some wood
Hey Tinman, That saw is absolutely amazing. By far my favourite power saw. Love the 32” inch bar. That 6.5 has some serious torque. Gotta love the older GM trucks. Stay safe, be kind and love always wins.✊🏻🪓🪵
@@ironbound1984 yeah I'm not sure either I have a 362 c-m and am going to start running the 25" bar more but wondering if I could go bigger myself without doing tons of work to the saw.
You need to send that saw to buckin, in my opinion a well ported 461 is one of the best performing, most reliable saws made. You might make him into a stihl man after all. Nice job Tinman
Man I'm falling behind last few days on fellas videos after my dog got sprayed by a skunk Monday night and the smell traveled through the whole entire house, chaos here! On top of facturing my nose Sunday night from a tree felling boo boo 😂 hope things are good over there buddy!
@@michaelwhiteoldtimer7648 oh ya been a hectic week seems like got no where with Cleaning, house hasn't overly improved and clothes fine out tomorrow if it's a win but all and all so far nothing to consider a win yet, thankfully a friend helped us out for a week so we have a place to stay in the mean time
Nice work buddy. On the truck and on the saw. Man she's zippy for sure. Look out Tinman is having more fun in the Turbo weasel and yardin logs like a pro. Love ya brother thank you for sharing. 🌲❤🌲✊🪓
I want those burls tinman. That's a bad ass saw bro!!!! Love your work and you are why I'm so into saws now. I have a power addiction as well brother!!!!!!
Hi Tinman!!😀😀 You do know that the tree you are cutting isn't maple. It's boxelder. We joke and call it ash leaf maple. Love the 461 !! They are one of my favorite dads saws. Take care my friend!! Logger Al
So puts a shopvac on the top of the rad and put a vacuum on the coolant system. When you pull the sensor out nothing will leak. Works the same on oil drain plugs
It sounds like you have bad vehicle speed sensor. Is you speedometer still working when in third? That would be an indicator for bad speed sensor. I don't know for sure.
Hey mate. Excuse the ignorance but why do you guys hold the pull cord out before shutting off the saw? I see buckin and walker do the same. Love the videos mate. How’s the echo 590?
I have a 461. Haven’t tweaked it at all I did have to remove those stupid plastic limiters from the carb adjustment screws. Saw would not idle. It idles fine now. Came with a 25” Stihl Rollomatic bar. I put a 20” on there cause I have about 25 chains of that size in my rotation. I’ll probably get a 32” lightweight bar here soon cause I have some huge trees to fall. Any opinions on lightweights? I have had a Sugi Hara 32” on a big Solo saw. Stihl? Total? Open to suggestions here.
if the gauge still does not work. take that connector off and take paper clip and connect the two pins and th gauge should move up. if its moved up then its the sensor and not the wiring
I'm not a huge fan of the short bars. Cut on one side then go to the other side to finish your cut.. I want a bar long enough to go thru the wood in one pass.
o machado e a motosserra eli silva & zé goiano composição: Moacir dos Santos / Zé Goiano o machado e a motosserra tiveram uma discussão motosserra diz que é orgulho da evolução machado pra mim já era pois vem do tempo de adão você agora só serve pra fazer calo na mão motosserra dá um ronco relou o dente no tronco já se vê o pau no chão a serra chamou o machado pra fazer uma porfia machado aceitou na hora e quando chegou o dia entraram junto no mato pra mostrar a serventia a motosserra roncava machado velho tinia e naquele matagal foi só cavaco de pau pó de serra que subia e esse grande duelo deste jeito é que termina na briga das ferramentas o machado é que domina motosserra parou cedo ali no tronco da quina machado seguiu cortando mata grossa e mata fina motosserra impotente rebentou sua corrente acabou a gasolina que isto sirva de exemplo para toda humanidade e você que é tão jovem tem que saber a verdade respeite bem os mais velhos não brinque com sua idade uma pessoa idosa também tem utilidade é um diamante valioso se não tivesse o idoso não teria mocidade
Now that the 500i is out the 461 doesn't get enough love. It's a great saw even when not ported its a workhorse. Good stuff Tinman. Long bars save lives!!
Honestly, I think the 500i is overrated; and the 462 is underrated. Looking at the dyno tests a guy over on OPE did, the 462 is nipping at the heals of the 500i, and the 462 has a wider power band and stays in peak power longer than the 500i. Just my $.02 I have a 461 and love it, but have thought hard about getting a 462 instead due to the weight and autotune (err, whatever Stihl calls it).
@@hisWACness Dyno tests aside, a stock for stock 500 vs 462 and longer bars like 32 and 36. The 500 pulls them better imo
@@hisWACness The 462 is a great saw. I just prefer to do my own tuning, I guess am just oldschool.
@@4570levergun Oh, I get it. I'm a carb guy too, but I was very impressed with the autotune on the MS241 I had (miss that little ripper), so the 462 is appealing to me. That said, I ain't giving up my 461 ;)
@@RI-td3gv I get it, but in the side-by-side videos I've seen, the 462 is right there (and in some like Buckin's one video, the 462 beat the 500i). Now, he was running long bars but cutting smaller rounds, so not a fair test if we're talking pulling long bars through big wood. I'd guess the 500i would beat it then. I wouldn't kick either of them out of my pickup ;)
I’ve been waiting for a good 461 vid with that nice lightweight bar on it!!
Take care Tinman!
I love the 461. One of the finest ever made. Thank God they have a good air filter, they do get dirty...so I laughed seeing you having to clean it.
great saw in it s own right .
Your videos are awesome, today I worked on the shifting bracket on my truck, and I finished my 268se.
I just finished watching your other video where you replace crank seals, I'll double check mine tomorrow.
Just made the switch to a longer bar a couple of years ago and haven’t looked back.. Nice job Tinman
Completely agree with the long bar. On my lot, one of my favorite tools is the pole saw. Keeps me at a safe distance for limbing down a tangle to big wood where I can then put the big saw to work.
The title of your video does say it all! Good demo on that saw, particularly the tuning which I find I'm still learning so much from you! 👍
Thanks for being here buddy!!
yeah those burls would make some nice bowls. That whole maple would. Great videos, Thanks Tinman.
In Michigan we call that type of treeboxelder 461 sounds good I've yet to try a stihl light bar I intend to get one some day great vid hope you get the bugs work out of the 590 I'm itching to see it in some wood
I prefer to tell the transmission when to shift . P.S. picked up a 10mm 044 last week at auction works well can't wait to take it to the bush
I’ve tried telling mine when to shift one time but apparently it’s a bit stubborn. Still shifted when it got ready…🤷♂️😳
Hey Tinman,
That saw is absolutely amazing. By far my favourite power saw. Love the 32” inch bar. That 6.5 has some serious torque. Gotta love the older GM trucks.
Stay safe, be kind and love always wins.✊🏻🪓🪵
Great video love the truck! Thanks for sharing’!
Love the 461 and I still have my old 79 Ford and like my man Billy I collect all home lights
Picked up a 362 not too long ago. Nice saw but in hind site I would have gone with the 462 just so I would have the option of a 32” bar.
I know you can run a 25" light bar on a 362 but not sure if it would have enough power to pull something like a 28", maybe Tinman will know.
rob price I dont think I do ...
@@ironbound1984 yeah I'm not sure either I have a 362 c-m and am going to start running the 25" bar more but wondering if I could go bigger myself without doing tons of work to the saw.
You need to send that saw to buckin, in my opinion a well ported 461 is one of the best performing, most reliable saws made. You might make him into a stihl man after all. Nice job Tinman
That’s a gnarly tree! No problem for a ported 461! Good seeing ya buddy! 👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏
Man I'm falling behind last few days on fellas videos after my dog got sprayed by a skunk Monday night and the smell traveled through the whole entire house, chaos here! On top of facturing my nose Sunday night from a tree felling boo boo 😂 hope things are good over there buddy!
Sorry Chippy that smell lasts a long time
@@michaelwhiteoldtimer7648 oh ya been a hectic week seems like got no where with Cleaning, house hasn't overly improved and clothes fine out tomorrow if it's a win but all and all so far nothing to consider a win yet, thankfully a friend helped us out for a week so we have a place to stay in the mean time
Nice work buddy. On the truck and on the saw. Man she's zippy for sure. Look out Tinman is having more fun in the Turbo weasel and yardin logs like a pro. Love ya brother thank you for sharing. 🌲❤🌲✊🪓
looking good john
That 461 rips. Great saw. Great vid tinman. God bless.
I want those burls tinman. That's a bad ass saw bro!!!! Love your work and you are why I'm so into saws now. I have a power addiction as well brother!!!!!!
Very nice saw lots of torque
What more does one need? A cold beer after the saw and truck are put to bed.
Hi Tinman!!😀😀
You do know that the tree you are cutting isn't maple. It's boxelder.
We joke and call it ash leaf maple.
Love the 461 !! They are one of my favorite dads saws.
Take care my friend!!
Logger Al
Hey Al, we call it Manitoba Maple here. It is indeed a Boxelder
So puts a shopvac on the top of the rad and put a vacuum on the coolant system. When you pull the sensor out nothing will leak. Works the same on oil drain plugs
I am convinced long bars are the way to go. I too was a “24” guy, much easier on the back standing up an bucking for sure with a 32”
saw, truck, shotgun , dog, maybe not in that order!!
She's a real sweet saw!
I have been looking for the CS 590 porting video ? I seen where you finished the saw and ran it but I never seen where you done some test cuts
Hey Tin Man would a stock 362 c-m have the power to run a 28" light bar with 3/8 pitch .050 full chisel chain?
What happened to the 268xp giveaway saw?
Hi Tinman, I've got a 461 with a 32" lightweight bar myself! That tree looks like a challenge to split! hahaha 😄👍
Split that one with a saw for sure
It sounds like you have bad vehicle speed sensor. Is you speedometer still working when in third? That would be an indicator for bad speed sensor. I don't know for sure.
I think that saw will pull full house chain on that 32 no problem just don’t get to aggressive with the rakers .
Hey mate. Excuse the ignorance but why do you guys hold the pull cord out before shutting off the saw? I see buckin and walker do the same. Love the videos mate. How’s the echo 590?
Try it and ual work it out.
When u shut off saw it grabs and puts tension on the pull rope.
It saves the pull rope making it last longer
Thank you!!!
That saw is nice
I have a 461. Haven’t tweaked it at all I did have to remove those stupid plastic limiters from the carb adjustment screws. Saw would not idle. It idles fine now. Came with a 25” Stihl Rollomatic bar. I put a 20” on there cause I have about 25 chains of that size in my rotation. I’ll probably get a 32” lightweight bar here soon cause I have some huge trees to fall. Any opinions on lightweights? I have had a Sugi Hara 32” on a big Solo saw. Stihl? Total? Open to suggestions here.
if the gauge still does not work. take that connector off and take paper clip and connect the two pins and th gauge should move up. if its moved up then its the sensor and not the wiring
Thanks for the tip!! Gauge works awesome now.
Good my friend!
Isn't a 32 inch bar nice? I'm 6'1" and love being able to cut big wood, or just to stand up when I cut. I need one of those light bars though.
Longer bars are much safer too, they don’t kick back like the smaller ones do .
What chain were you running? Idk if I missed it in the video.
Oregon exj full skipnoff the roll.
@ Tinman's saws if like to talk to you about doing some porting on a saw for me any contact info?
Will the 461 top end go onto a 462? I may have an opportunity at getting a shagged 462.
Love my 461 its lil finnike lolat times but does ok
I like the long bars too, but they suck up my 100' rolls quicker too.
tinman port a 162 se! i just did mine
Hey tin man love you and all the vids. What are your thoughts on the hd2 filter vs a max flow on the 461
I've never run a max flow, i hear they are good.
I've never had much luck with Sthil chainsaws, I've the older Husqvarnas and Shindaiwa makes a great saw !
Where abouts in Manitoba do you live?
Wicked.
As a woodturner I would kill for that tree. Shame its firewood
I'm not a huge fan of the short bars. Cut on one side then go to the other side to finish your cut.. I want a bar long enough to go thru the wood in one pass.
I like to stand up when bucking. A 32 is the right length for me to do that.
@@iffykidmn8170 I'm 6' 4" and I don't like bending over to cut wood
An 880 and a one ton diesel dually ford
Hi tbe tinman. Peace from Scotland
A fella is all set with those things. Add a good deer rifle and you are in hog heaven!! Btw, She cuts Eh!!!
Do you have a tractor?
ORYGUN!
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nice
Tin man you need to get your hands on a 500i to play with
Maybe one day
It’s hard to be the looks of a ms461 in my opinion.
@tinman I would love to have those burls brother
o machado e a motosserra
eli silva & zé goiano
composição: Moacir dos Santos / Zé Goiano
o machado e a motosserra tiveram uma discussão
motosserra diz que é orgulho da evolução
machado pra mim já era pois vem do tempo de adão
você agora só serve pra fazer calo na mão motosserra dá um ronco relou o dente no tronco já se vê o pau no chão
a serra chamou o machado pra fazer uma porfia
machado aceitou na hora e quando chegou o dia
entraram junto no mato pra mostrar a serventia
a motosserra roncava machado velho tinia
e naquele matagal foi só cavaco de pau pó de serra que subia
e esse grande duelo deste jeito é que termina
na briga das ferramentas o machado é que domina
motosserra parou cedo ali no tronco da quina
machado seguiu cortando mata grossa e mata fina
motosserra impotente rebentou sua corrente acabou a gasolina
que isto sirva de exemplo para toda humanidade
e você que é tão jovem tem que saber a verdade
respeite bem os mais velhos não brinque com sua idade
uma pessoa idosa também tem utilidade
é um diamante valioso se não tivesse o idoso não teria mocidade
A dog