Hi fellow bow mains, wanted to mention spread bow is even better than rapid at the moment, of course the distancing makes it harder to play, but paired with dodgebolt, the new stake thrust in between combos, and bladescale hone buffing close range coating, you get a lot of damage.
I remember I first started watching you back when I gave lords of the fallen a second chance after watching you start playing. Here I am years and games later still watching you for awesome content and guides/builds. Keep it up man!
If for some reason you really just want to make one bow, you can always go with the Seregios bow. Great raw at 380, 10% affinity, Rapid 5 on charge levels 2 and 3 (though it needs the Mighty Bow Jewel), two level 1 slots for your Quickload Jewel 1s, a level 2 Rampage slot, and it (may) have the innate Bladescale Hone it used to have back in Gen 4. That 380 raw, by the way, is up there with Tigrex and Diablos bows, both of which have negative affinity, and the Garangolom Bow, which gets Rapid 1/Spread 2/Rapid 3/Spread 4 - not good if you want a pure Spread bow either.
@@JanusHoW True but with bow you really just need one since once you get it to trigger, the buff lasts a good while so I just don't think its worth deco slots to max it out
Thank you for this easy to follow build/entertaining video. I’m doing half the damage right now with bow… with this build I may be able to out damage my husband and his friends!
I've been trying to working with dodge-bolt for quite a while, I've gotten to the point of dodging about 60% of the moves by timing them right, but seeing a build like this where you also use charging side-step makes me feel thankful that I don't HAVE to use dodge-bolt all the time.
To be honest, Dodge-Bolt timing shouldn't be what you focus on since it'll just get you nailed...Treat it like Charging Sidestep but with a bonus sometimes it parries! If you can slap in an Evade Extender while using Dodge-Bolt, it covers the same distance as base-distance Sidestep for less stamina cost. But yeah, if it's not feeling right for you, Sidestep is still a good skill to use! Stamina consumption is less a problem and the edge cases where Sidestep will exhaust you where Bolt would not don't come up all that frequently.
@@TransientWitch Thank you for the advice! I didn’t even realize that there was a difference in stamina consumption between the two moves. Good to know :).
Weird I ran exclusively rapid bow in HR but since Sunbreak released I've been all in on Pierce Bow. Final Boss Head, Final Boss chest, diablos gloves, rathalos waist, and rakna kadaki legs.
i have a question, so say for the lunagaron bow, the charge levels for three and four are the same. Is it still necessary to gem in bow charge plus or would it be better if another decoration is used instead?
I have a very weird pierce bow build going and i want to hear your thoughts on it It uses Primordial Malzeno Bow (Mighty Bow, Blood Rite 2 and Pierce Up 2 jewels, as well as the Daora Soul rampage deco) Valstrax Helm (Constitution 2 and Intrepid Heart jewels) Valstrax Mail (with 6 levels of Defense Up) Risen Valstrax Braces (Stamina Surge 2, Intrepid Heart and a spare 1 slot) Valstrax Coil (with a final level of Stamina Surge and Defense Boost each) Primordial Greaves (with Dragonheart and Constitution 2) And while i don't have it yet, i'm looking for a talisman with Coalescence and maybe Critical Eye
So is the Bow better than the LBG is Sunbreak? I'm a new player trying to figure out what I wanna stick with and while the LBG can be pretty fun, spamming pierce/slice gets boring really quickly.
Bow is much more involved and requires more skill to perfect. LBG and HBG are great weapons but all you really have to worry about is some slight positioning. Bow requires much more finesse and has a significantly higher skill ceiling.
@@jameelkurabi no. if we're talking max level efficiency it's HBG, Bow, then LBG. LBG is braindead and easily the strongest of the three rn, bow is very good and sometimes hard as you can get comboed very hard and one shot but it has very strong mobility. HBG if being optimized for pure DPS output is the most punishing weapon in the entire game
I'm curious, is it really okay in bow to run crit boost 3 but no crit eye or other affinity buff other than weakness exploit? and also why are you (and other youtuber I found) not running crit elem? is it not good?
He mentions during the video that the innate element on bows is significantly lower than other weapons such as DB and switch axe. He still prioritizes the proper element for the matchup but the highest raw with some element is more efficient.
you only need 2 const tbh if you voucher every time, cuz 70% chance the fighter dango gets activated and the fighter dango lvl4 only needs a const lvl 2 to reach the stamina reduction cap
@@GoddamLuke the problem with the lvl4 dango is, 70% is not that high, if it fails to activate, you will have to change your set to one with lvl 4 cons, or run with a shitty lv 2
Hey, nice bow guide ! I'm just thinking whether have you overshot the stamina efficiency as you already have a level 5 constitution on your gears, meaning that you most likely won't be receiving any effect on Dango Fighter anymore.
How is it with Pyra kadaki "blast" bow? Looking at it, it seem like it have good affinity with decent raw. Also good slots I know before l, base Kadaki was good if you wanted to go pierce.
Interesting build. I’ve been using a much (at least I think) weirder build using gore mail to max coalescence. I don’t have that incredible of a talisman but I can definitely see the value in this build here. As for switch skills I prefer Focus Shot over Butcher’s bind purely because of how inconsistent butcher’s bind feels to me. Edit: I do actually run melee attack on blue so I can have at least some form of cutting damage, but unless I need to sever a tail I’m not really going to use it.
i haven't played for years and i have been missing out on a lot-bow is now the king of damage when it was clearly neglected (as an eternal archer loyalist and, of course, bow main) in the earlier versions years ago? i really, badly need to play monster hunter again T_T
Thanks for the build. Seeing the Ibushi bow being suggested made me go look at Espinas bow if one doesn't like negative affinity. It only has pierce on 2nd shot but the rest is all rapid. Also only has a Level 1 Rampage slot so that's definitely a turn off for some
I was dual blades and sword and shield main. Now I want to learn bow. But I find it really hard to dodge. Any more suggestion for the moveset I should use to dodge effectively? Right now, after the first faint I switch to the other weapons.
Make sure you have even con and SS that stamina isn't a concern. Having good monster knowledge to know when to dodge in between shots is important, you can also use aerial aim to leap over certain attacks. It's all just practice.
I was running and I was having a hard time dodging, then I realized my stamina was so low from shooting. You uave to manage stamina and have staminarecovery skills and items buffs. If you have stamina for dodging you can dodge pretty much everything and be untouchable. It's really good if you are in a party.
I've been a bow main but Rajang is a little too scary and fast for me to even think about using a bow. He can easily one to two shot because of the lower physical defense you have with bow.
I beat all of Sunbreak exclusively with the bow - my advice to you is to use the Dodgebolt skill. This allows you to dodge an attack the second it lands, without taking any damage. You also attack with your arrow, causing melee damage, though if I'm correct it consumes more stamina than a normal dodge. Well worth it, in my opinion.
@@gabrielramos4179 I haven't been able to pull off dodge bolt I've been playing nothing but bow its my most used weapon but the window for the counter feels so tight
@@jordan.z.m I suggest starting off small, then working your way up. Start with an Arzuros because they are weak and have highly telegraphed attack moves. Practice in expeditions, you don't have to worry about dying penalties.
Some tips to improve ur bow dps and mastery: U can cancel the animation of ur first power shot right after ur normal shot to decrease ur animation delay and increase dps. Beat this Rajang using only pre base rise gear and was able to get a 7 minute kill time. This just goes to show how huge of a gap bow users is and how big of a difference of kill times u can get when ur an expert vs someone just starting to play as a bow user.
I'm trying out bow/lbg in LR, and work my way up (i'm MR5 w/ GS), so i can learn the weapon better. (i use tier equivalent gear) But i keep finding LBG just.... decimates my bow times, despite me having constitution 4 ish?? I'm just bad at hitting the shots while dancing around i guess. Glad to see it gets awesome later on, just so early i feel it just is so bad compared to LBG point and win. :D
Just wanted to ask since looking at build guides for much weapons...... HOW In The Hell You Guys Getting Those Wack Up Talisman? XD I need 1 at least. RNG not being kind at all even when the chances are at 40% for some skills I tried.
I was so confused I had to look up what the storage helm was casue it has a different name for male sets. Also thank you, I hate set building and ive been trying to work with that stupid suicide build and have been getting my shit rocked.
People expect you to build for a speedrun nowadays. I'll expect someone to cry about the Rakna Greaves and go for the Archdemon greaves and godcharm the constitution/stamina surge
Yeah and if you watch the video or just try n play it on paper yeah it does but in reality your gonna miss alot of shots (either from the smaller crit distance or just from the arrows on the far sides) n be close asf with a wep with a -physical def bonus its very uncomfy in online ppl want u to be hitting ur shots n not carting. Also if your coming from world n want bows that r gonna feel like mhw bows n not have to worry about these nonsense arrow typings rapids n peirce r gonna feel alot more similar n not throw new ppl or world bow players off
@@gamer_jss There was no bow attack/option to replicate the pierce shot type in MHW/IB. Unless you want to count dragon piercer. If anything World/IB bow playstyle is a combination of rapid and spread shot types. Since the normal shots were rapid but once you got to power shots they became spread. Best way to replicate this in rise/SB would be to have a bow that went rapid/rapid/rapid/spread or something similar.
A minute and a half of infinite stamina is enough to take fucking super strong shot in your blue scroll. And if you actually use Dragon Piercer you can become a better sword and shield. Ain't the only ones with sever and KO.
I tried furious out in the training area but couldn't get it to function properly with bow. May revisit it at some point though but ultimately con/ss is just safer and more consistent
Hi fellow bow mains, wanted to mention spread bow is even better than rapid at the moment, of course the distancing makes it harder to play, but paired with dodgebolt, the new stake thrust in between combos, and bladescale hone buffing close range coating, you get a lot of damage.
Yep still the king for dps
it is, i don't even have rapid in my loadout. i go for pierce and spread, those two shot types are just too good.
It's crazy strong, I'm just stubborn and low rapid
what's a good basic raw bow build to grind thru most of then game?
@@FightinCowboy it was hard betraying rapid :(
Was looking into playing bow but was looking for a comfort, fast-paced, simple to play way to do it. Thank you so much for this!
I remember I first started watching you back when I gave lords of the fallen a second chance after watching you start playing. Here I am years and games later still watching you for awesome content and guides/builds. Keep it up man!
Crazy how content creators always have god rolls on whatever it is
Praise Be NexusMods
Quite annoying tbh
It’s almost like people who play the game more have better stuff
@@JayTheTruth huh? U dumb? That is modded lmfao which is why he even mentioned that PC is so "good"
It's called sponsorship. It's the quickest way to progress.
If for some reason you really just want to make one bow, you can always go with the Seregios bow. Great raw at 380, 10% affinity, Rapid 5 on charge levels 2 and 3 (though it needs the Mighty Bow Jewel), two level 1 slots for your Quickload Jewel 1s, a level 2 Rampage slot, and it (may) have the innate Bladescale Hone it used to have back in Gen 4.
That 380 raw, by the way, is up there with Tigrex and Diablos bows, both of which have negative affinity, and the Garangolom Bow, which gets Rapid 1/Spread 2/Rapid 3/Spread 4 - not good if you want a pure Spread bow either.
Bladescale Hone isn't baked right into the bow but you really just need 1 deco for it
@@rosenrot234 You need to have 3 for the skill to activate 100% of the time like it did in past MH games.
@@JanusHoW True but with bow you really just need one since once you get it to trigger, the buff lasts a good while so I just don't think its worth deco slots to max it out
Thank you for this easy to follow build/entertaining video. I’m doing half the damage right now with bow… with this build I may be able to out damage my husband and his friends!
Awesome VoD on Bow in Sunbreak with demo on MR hunts. The expletive in the hunt is a nice touch of humor, lol. We all have had those moments.
Been following you since Nioh days, helped me out a ton with them builds
Didn't expect you again in Sunbreak!
Finally killing high tier monsters not bullying low tier monsters
I've been trying to working with dodge-bolt for quite a while, I've gotten to the point of dodging about 60% of the moves by timing them right, but seeing a build like this where you also use charging side-step makes me feel thankful that I don't HAVE to use dodge-bolt all the time.
I agree. I do like the dodge bolt but I'm just no good at timing it. Charging side step is just a bit safer
To be honest, Dodge-Bolt timing shouldn't be what you focus on since it'll just get you nailed...Treat it like Charging Sidestep but with a bonus sometimes it parries! If you can slap in an Evade Extender while using Dodge-Bolt, it covers the same distance as base-distance Sidestep for less stamina cost. But yeah, if it's not feeling right for you, Sidestep is still a good skill to use! Stamina consumption is less a problem and the edge cases where Sidestep will exhaust you where Bolt would not don't come up all that frequently.
@@TransientWitch Thank you for the advice! I didn’t even realize that there was a difference in stamina consumption between the two moves. Good to know :).
You can throw some evade window and it makes it easier...
Weird I ran exclusively rapid bow in HR but since Sunbreak released I've been all in on Pierce Bow. Final Boss Head, Final Boss chest, diablos gloves, rathalos waist, and rakna kadaki legs.
i have a question, so say for the lunagaron bow, the charge levels for three and four are the same. Is it still necessary to gem in bow charge plus or would it be better if another decoration is used instead?
I have a very weird pierce bow build going and i want to hear your thoughts on it
It uses
Primordial Malzeno Bow (Mighty Bow, Blood Rite 2 and Pierce Up 2 jewels, as well as the Daora Soul rampage deco)
Valstrax Helm (Constitution 2 and Intrepid Heart jewels)
Valstrax Mail (with 6 levels of Defense Up)
Risen Valstrax Braces (Stamina Surge 2, Intrepid Heart and a spare 1 slot)
Valstrax Coil (with a final level of Stamina Surge and Defense Boost each)
Primordial Greaves (with Dragonheart and Constitution 2)
And while i don't have it yet, i'm looking for a talisman with Coalescence and maybe Critical Eye
So is the Bow better than the LBG is Sunbreak? I'm a new player trying to figure out what I wanna stick with and while the LBG can be pretty fun, spamming pierce/slice gets boring really quickly.
Bow is much more involved and requires more skill to perfect. LBG and HBG are great weapons but all you really have to worry about is some slight positioning. Bow requires much more finesse and has a significantly higher skill ceiling.
@@jameelkurabi no. if we're talking max level efficiency it's HBG, Bow, then LBG. LBG is braindead and easily the strongest of the three rn, bow is very good and sometimes hard as you can get comboed very hard and one shot but it has very strong mobility. HBG if being optimized for pure DPS output is the most punishing weapon in the entire game
@@biggiecheese2004 like it has been in every mh game ever lmfao
I'm curious, is it really okay in bow to run crit boost 3 but no crit eye or other affinity buff other than weakness exploit? and also why are you (and other youtuber I found) not running crit elem? is it not good?
He mentions during the video that the innate element on bows is significantly lower than other weapons such as DB and switch axe. He still prioritizes the proper element for the matchup but the highest raw with some element is more efficient.
Fun fact buffed close range coating with herculean draw makes close range coating do almost equivalent dmg to power coating
you can drop 1 point of constitution since we always go with the fighter dando reaching the stamina reduction cap
so those don't stack on top of each other?
you only need 2 const tbh if you voucher every time, cuz 70% chance the fighter dango gets activated and the fighter dango lvl4 only needs a const lvl 2 to reach the stamina reduction cap
@@jrpgquest yes they do, but the cap is 50%, so if you run cons 5, the dango is wasted
@@GoddamLuke the problem with the lvl4 dango is, 70% is not that high, if it fails to activate, you will have to change your set to one with lvl 4 cons, or run with a shitty lv 2
Well if you run cons 5 you just don't need to eat for fighter. Though it's still not worth going for if you lose damage skills for it.
Hey, nice bow guide ! I'm just thinking whether have you overshot the stamina efficiency as you already have a level 5 constitution on your gears, meaning that you most likely won't be receiving any effect on Dango Fighter anymore.
Yo wtf! You're my favorite Dark Souls tuber I always watched! I had no idea you played MH
what is the thing you have when you're at crit distancfe and how do you enable it please ? Thanks in advance :D
How is it with Pyra kadaki "blast" bow? Looking at it, it seem like it have good affinity with decent raw. Also good slots
I know before l, base Kadaki was good if you wanted to go pierce.
Alright. So, arc shot. Recovery is easy but any tips for brace in solo and/or teams
Interesting build.
I’ve been using a much (at least I think) weirder build using gore mail to max coalescence. I don’t have that incredible of a talisman but I can definitely see the value in this build here. As for switch skills I prefer Focus Shot over Butcher’s bind purely because of how inconsistent butcher’s bind feels to me.
Edit: I do actually run melee attack on blue so I can have at least some form of cutting damage, but unless I need to sever a tail I’m not really going to use it.
And now that I’ve done a damage test, your build is infinitely better….
Thank you.
What layered armor are u wearing in this video?
New to the game so.. why do you have 2 cats and a doggo? Also which stats for them would you recommend?
i haven't played for years and i have been missing out on a lot-bow is now the king of damage when it was clearly neglected (as an eternal archer loyalist and, of course, bow main) in the earlier versions years ago? i really, badly need to play monster hunter again T_T
Cowboy what gems are you using for the other bow or players choice???
Thanks for the build. Seeing the Ibushi bow being suggested made me go look at Espinas bow if one doesn't like negative affinity. It only has pierce on 2nd shot but the rest is all rapid. Also only has a Level 1 Rampage slot so that's definitely a turn off for some
nothing an augment cant fix
How do you get such good talismans? I've gone through *hundreds* as the best I've gotten is 2 normal/rapid up 2 con with 3 one slots
PC mods my guy
BRO YOU PLAY THIS TOO?!?!?! I knew I subscribed for a good reason!
Can this build be raw dmg or it just focuses on ice attack dmg?
how did you get that armor you are wearing? or should I say layered armor
It's from pyre rakna
Excellent comfort build for bow, Spread is outdamaging Rapid in most scenarios, but much harder to play.
I was dual blades and sword and shield main. Now I want to learn bow. But I find it really hard to dodge. Any more suggestion for the moveset I should use to dodge effectively? Right now, after the first faint I switch to the other weapons.
Make sure you have even con and SS that stamina isn't a concern. Having good monster knowledge to know when to dodge in between shots is important, you can also use aerial aim to leap over certain attacks. It's all just practice.
I did a guide on bow for base rise that goes more in depth into combos and rotation
@@FightinCowboy thanks sir!
I was running and I was having a hard time dodging, then I realized my stamina was so low from shooting. You uave to manage stamina and have staminarecovery skills and items buffs. If you have stamina for dodging you can dodge pretty much everything and be untouchable. It's really good if you are in a party.
Whats the layered armor?
honestly such a nice build fits how i like to play bow aswell without feeling like im gonna get oneshot
I've been a bow main but Rajang is a little too scary and fast for me to even think about using a bow. He can easily one to two shot because of the lower physical defense you have with bow.
I beat all of Sunbreak exclusively with the bow - my advice to you is to use the Dodgebolt skill. This allows you to dodge an attack the second it lands, without taking any damage. You also attack with your arrow, causing melee damage, though if I'm correct it consumes more stamina than a normal dodge. Well worth it, in my opinion.
@@gabrielramos4179 I haven't been able to pull off dodge bolt I've been playing nothing but bow its my most used weapon but the window for the counter feels so tight
@@jordan.z.m I suggest starting off small, then working your way up. Start with an Arzuros because they are weak and have highly telegraphed attack moves. Practice in expeditions, you don't have to worry about dying penalties.
i have no idea why.... but somnachanth is the worst nightmare for me as a bow user.
@@kllee6261 Aurora Somna is particularly annoying for me due to it's wide range flailing.
I took a long break from MH after the switch. just got the PC version and this is just what I needed to catch back up
Some tips to improve ur bow dps and mastery: U can cancel the animation of ur first power shot right after ur normal shot to decrease ur animation delay and increase dps. Beat this Rajang using only pre base rise gear and was able to get a 7 minute kill time. This just goes to show how huge of a gap bow users is and how big of a difference of kill times u can get when ur an expert vs someone just starting to play as a bow user.
Can i know how did you change the rakna layer to red?
Pyre rakna
do you think dash juice is enough to not run stamina slots?
No, there's math but you still need some
So you dont use WE lvl 3?
I'm trying out bow/lbg in LR, and work my way up (i'm MR5 w/ GS), so i can learn the weapon better. (i use tier equivalent gear) But i keep finding LBG just.... decimates my bow times, despite me having constitution 4 ish??
I'm just bad at hitting the shots while dancing around i guess.
Glad to see it gets awesome later on, just so early i feel it just is so bad compared to LBG point and win. :D
Just wanted to ask since looking at build guides for much weapons...... HOW In The Hell You Guys Getting Those Wack Up Talisman? XD I need 1 at least. RNG not being kind at all even when the chances are at 40% for some skills I tried.
They cheat them in with PC mods
@@CensorShtTube thanks for the info, gonna keep trying. Found the strat to not save after melding talisman on YT till I get a decent one.
Nice video, simple clear and efficient build. I'm still enjoying bow, but it's a shame the rampage weapons got the push.
Yeah I loved the flexibility of the rampage weapons so suit your play style or needs.
Well I found my bow build, thank you so much!
Love your commentary, very easy to follow 👍
I was so confused I had to look up what the storage helm was casue it has a different name for male sets.
Also thank you, I hate set building and ive been trying to work with that stupid suicide build and have been getting my shit rocked.
What's the layered armour set?
Looks like Rakna or its new Pyre cousin full set
@@craigfunk3453 Thank you that's it. Legend
I still love Pierce cause it's so fun
When will we be getting that lance build? lol
Hey lance is pretty strong and im being serious.
@@Felix-tz6hnI've used the lance 200 times already. I noticed when he was showing his guild card that he had 0 usage with the lance. Lol
I played it a bit on switch but didn't touch it on PC at all
Nice! I search some video like this :D
Gotta slap a spider around but I’m on my way with this, 🤙🤙🤙
Just get a god charm amirite
I'm mr 62 and have yet to get stake thrust
Yet another bow build video without Ballistics FeelsBadMan. Not enough people putting respect on that skill.
I suck so need to run high defense. Can't play bow
MR 68 HR 230 but has all these god charms 💀
Try furious rajang armor is great
Am I the only hunter who is always broke 😂😂😂 I got zero gold
so always need cheat/mods anyways..
why do people have such an aversion to getting birds?
They like carting.
People expect you to build for a speedrun nowadays. I'll expect someone to cry about the Rakna Greaves and go for the Archdemon greaves and godcharm the constitution/stamina surge
0:20 why no lance?
Eventually, it just isn't a weapon I enjoy all that much
@@FightinCowboy hmm guess your right I went from lance and bow in rise to main only great sword in sunbreak it's a good *CbOeUsGtH* weapon
@@FightinCowboy k trying this build makes me wish to bow once more
Waw need is build 😢
Spread is better sorry it’s the truth
Yeah and if you watch the video or just try n play it on paper yeah it does but in reality your gonna miss alot of shots (either from the smaller crit distance or just from the arrows on the far sides) n be close asf with a wep with a -physical def bonus its very uncomfy in online ppl want u to be hitting ur shots n not carting. Also if your coming from world n want bows that r gonna feel like mhw bows n not have to worry about these nonsense arrow typings rapids n peirce r gonna feel alot more similar n not throw new ppl or world bow players off
@@gamer_jss nonsense arrow typings lul mhw baby spotted
@@gamer_jss There was no bow attack/option to replicate the pierce shot type in MHW/IB. Unless you want to count dragon piercer. If anything World/IB bow playstyle is a combination of rapid and spread shot types. Since the normal shots were rapid but once you got to power shots they became spread. Best way to replicate this in rise/SB would be to have a bow that went rapid/rapid/rapid/spread or something similar.
Who needs constitiution when you have furious
A minute and a half of infinite stamina is enough to take fucking super strong shot in your blue scroll. And if you actually use Dragon Piercer you can become a better sword and shield. Ain't the only ones with sever and KO.
I tried furious out in the training area but couldn't get it to function properly with bow. May revisit it at some point though but ultimately con/ss is just safer and more consistent
spread
Sedated works great for free meal for lv1