Greninja is pretty rare on the scene. I've only mirror matched once on PTCGL and barely ever played against when I try other Pokemon decks online. Were you tempted to try some more draw card supporters or a Pidgeot Ex?
7:18 look at the top of the card it says item on it or am i complletly wrong(new to the game so please explain what i misunderstand thanks in advance :D)
@@Wampinu Back when Forest Seal Stone first came out, that was when "Tools" were considered "Item" cards. So any cards that allowed you to interact with Item cards also affects tools. After the 2023 rotation, Tools were no longer considered Item cards and were separate. So newer cards during the Sword and Violet sets say "Tool" cards, no longer saying "Item" anywhere on the card.
Pokémon: 10 1 Cleffa OBF 202 3 Froakie OBF 56 1 Manaphy CRZ-GG 6 1 Frogadier TWM 57 1 Rotom V LOR 177 2 Greninja ex TWM 214 4 Froslass TWM 174 1 Greninja ex PR-SV 132 4 Snorunt PAR 188 1 Frogadier OBF 57 Trainer: 20 4 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TWM 223 1 Enhanced Hammer TWM 224 1 Lost Vacuum LOR 217 1 Super Rod PAL 276 1 Technical Machine: Devolution PAR 177 PH 1 Forest Seal Stone SIT 156 3 Iono PR-SV 124 1 Professor Turo's Scenario PAR 257 1 Roxanne CRZ-GG 66 2 Nest Ball SVI 255 2 Rare Candy SVI 256 2 Arven PAF 235 1 Hisuian Heavy Ball ASR 146 PH 2 Boss's Orders PAL 265 1 Hyper Aroma TWM 152 4 Irida CRZ-GG 63 1 Jamming Tower TWM 153 PH 1 Earthen Vessel PAR 163 PH 3 Ultra Ball BRS 186 1 Counter Catcher PAR 264 Energy: 2 5 Basic {W} Energy Energy 3 2 Double Turbo Energy BRS 151 Here's my list, with the water type. It does make irida a little more powerful and a decent block to the supereffectiveness of Garde' decks.
Double turbo does not take 20 damage off the mirage barrage according to the official Pokemon advanced attacking rules. Whoever ruled on that is not reading the rules accurately: Under Full Details of attacking step 2: The effects check here only looks at effects that alter or cancel an attack…specifically, special condition effects or effects of attacks from the previous turn. Step E of the Full Details of Attacking require you to do everything the attack requires in order to use it (ie discarding energy). Step F then looks at effects that occur before damage and conveniently, they include six more sub-steps to calculate damage under Step F. In those sub-steps, step 5 specifically cites effects of energies which occurs AFTER step E in the full details of attacking section. Effects of energies ARE NOT checked under step B of the full details of attacking. Why is this so hard for people to understand? It’s there in black and white clear as crystal in the advanced rules.
Ya I hear ya, but I think PTCGL is unfortunately looking at it as if DTE is attached at the announcement of the attack then it gets the 20 damage nerf.
I like to use a Frosslass EX since it’s grass I find it very useful against Charizard EX and instead of Rotom and Big bear I use vaporeon Vstar
This is great. You have a deck list by any chance in text form
Pokémon: 7
4 Froslass TWM 53
3 Greninja ex TWM 106
4 Froakie TWM 56
1 Rotom V LOR 58
4 Snorunt TWM 51
1 Bloodmoon Ursaluna ex TWM 141
2 Frogadier TWM 57
Trainer: 17
3 Ultra Ball SVI 196
4 Irida ASR 147
2 Switch SVI 194
4 Rare Candy SVI 191
1 Earthen Vessel PAR 163
4 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144
1 Counter Catcher PAR 160
3 Iono PAL 185
1 Professor Turo's Scenario PAR 171
1 Technical Machine: Devolution PAR 177
1 Super Rod PAL 188
1 Technical Machine: Evolution PAR 178
1 Forest Seal Stone SIT 156
1 Nest Ball SVI 181
1 Unfair Stamp TWM 165
3 Arven SVI 166
1 Collapsed Stadium BRS 137
Energy: 2
2 Double Turbo Energy BRS 151
6 Basic {W} Energy Energy 11
Total Cards: 60
@@besseily very much appreciated 💪
Greninja is pretty rare on the scene. I've only mirror matched once on PTCGL and barely ever played against when I try other Pokemon decks online. Were you tempted to try some more draw card supporters or a Pidgeot Ex?
No it isn’t, everyone is playing it now.
9:31 irida does not get forest seal stone. It is not an item card
7:18 look at the top of the card it says item on it or am i complletly wrong(new to the game so please explain what i misunderstand thanks in advance :D)
@@Wampinu Back when Forest Seal Stone first came out, that was when "Tools" were considered "Item" cards. So any cards that allowed you to interact with Item cards also affects tools. After the 2023 rotation, Tools were no longer considered Item cards and were separate. So newer cards during the Sword and Violet sets say "Tool" cards, no longer saying "Item" anywhere on the card.
I wonder how many times he cheated 😂
@@Wampinudo you even play?
@@nelsonbabilonia4405 for less than 2 months yeah ^^
how long will this deck last before its out of rotation?
Would it be an option to put 1 greninja ex (the water one with 300kp) in for the easy 40 dmg snipes or 240 to attack already dmged pokemon?
Yes you can definitely try that
Pokémon: 10
1 Cleffa OBF 202
3 Froakie OBF 56
1 Manaphy CRZ-GG 6
1 Frogadier TWM 57
1 Rotom V LOR 177
2 Greninja ex TWM 214
4 Froslass TWM 174
1 Greninja ex PR-SV 132
4 Snorunt PAR 188
1 Frogadier OBF 57
Trainer: 20
4 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TWM 223
1 Enhanced Hammer TWM 224
1 Lost Vacuum LOR 217
1 Super Rod PAL 276
1 Technical Machine: Devolution PAR 177 PH
1 Forest Seal Stone SIT 156
3 Iono PR-SV 124
1 Professor Turo's Scenario PAR 257
1 Roxanne CRZ-GG 66
2 Nest Ball SVI 255
2 Rare Candy SVI 256
2 Arven PAF 235
1 Hisuian Heavy Ball ASR 146 PH
2 Boss's Orders PAL 265
1 Hyper Aroma TWM 152
4 Irida CRZ-GG 63
1 Jamming Tower TWM 153 PH
1 Earthen Vessel PAR 163 PH
3 Ultra Ball BRS 186
1 Counter Catcher PAR 264
Energy: 2
5 Basic {W} Energy Energy 3
2 Double Turbo Energy BRS 151
Here's my list, with the water type. It does make irida a little more powerful and a decent block to the supereffectiveness of Garde' decks.
Just played against this on PTCGL and got destroyed. Prompted me to look it up and found this vid! Going to give it a go.
By turn 2 if u have all 4 froslass u pretty much win the game 😂. Not even raging bolt stands a chance, the grass ogerpons go down really quick.
Double turbo does not take 20 damage off the mirage barrage according to the official Pokemon advanced attacking rules.
Whoever ruled on that is not reading the rules accurately:
Under Full Details of attacking step 2: The effects check here only looks at effects that alter or cancel an attack…specifically, special condition effects or effects of attacks from the previous turn.
Step E of the Full Details of Attacking require you to do everything the attack requires in order to use it (ie discarding energy).
Step F then looks at effects that occur before damage and conveniently, they include six more sub-steps to calculate damage under Step F. In those sub-steps, step 5 specifically cites effects of energies which occurs AFTER step E in the full details of attacking section. Effects of energies ARE NOT checked under step B of the full details of attacking.
Why is this so hard for people to understand? It’s there in black and white clear as crystal in the advanced rules.
Thank you for the clarification. It’s much appreciated!
They just patched it PTCGL that it does take the 20 damage off and it was a bug that it wasn't doing it before
Ya I hear ya, but I think PTCGL is unfortunately looking at it as if DTE is attached at the announcement of the attack then it gets the 20 damage nerf.
Not the Blood Moon Ursula💀
😂😂😂
Would you consider using hyper aroma instead of the stamp ? Just curious
The deck seems to be consistent already, so unfair stamp is better to disrupt the opponent
I like the doduo varient
Contra esse deck
LUGIA EZ
GARDEVOIR EZ
DRAGAPULT HARD
CHARIZARD HARD
OGERPON IMPOSSÍVEL 😢
I use both greninja. 240 > 2 energ G.G
Of course it's the dookie ahh froslass build
Let’s go!!!