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- "Duck Soup" just finished and before closedown there's just enough time to see tomorrow's schedule, to have a look at the weather and a issue a quick reminder that tomorrow is the last day of transmission on 405 lines.
Dated as Wednesday January 2nd 1985.
Just for the record ..... this is not a recording off BBC-1 Scotland. I have checked our archives and on that night BBC 1 Scotland ended as usual with the Scottish News Headlines and Scottish Weather. The London announcer would not have been heard.
and 405 lines were black and white i think
oh it was tommorow
Your on ball Tony.
In Ireland, 405 line television did not last long. When Telefis Eireann (RTE 1) began in 1961, they broadcasted on 405 lines. Then in 1964, they began 625 Line transmissions (even though the UK started 625 line transmission in 1964 also, it wasn't readily available until the late 60's/early 70's). I think RTE could have started with 625 line transmission from the very start, if people who had television sets along the coast of Ireland and in the Border regions of Ireland where they could pick up BBC and IBA transmissions. RTE discontinued 405 line transmissions in 1978 for most of the country, except one transmitter in Co.Donegal. This was turned off in 1982. However, I was surprised to see that Ireland still used VHF transmissions for 625 Line Colour services. The first UHF transmitter was at Cairn Hill, Co.Longford and began in 1978. I find it strange that VHF signals could broadcast 625 Line Colour.
625 lines is fine on VHF; the rest of (western, at east) Europe always had it. you need fewer transmitters, too! The only disadvantage of VHF is that the aerials are bigger (and some hue problems if you use NTSC colour, but Euroe - including Eire - used PAL, which was designed to fix that anyway).
@@G6JPG NTSC aka Never The Same Colour, PAL, Perfect At Last...de...G4SSK
oh man this is a classic i remember well, getting ready for school in the morning.
BBC 1 Scotland would often leave the closedown to the announcer in London - particularly if there was a networked show at the end of the day's schedule. Equally, it would often be the networked BBC 1 that would be shown in Scotland in the early morning as well.
It appears you have been informed incorrectly. As I say BBC Scotland sometimes took the feed from London at the end of the day.
@BizMarkUK * Secondly, when I first discovered "TV Pres" sites about ten years ago, I was gobsmacked when I saw all these video captures showing that the 1981-1985 globe had a WHITE 'BBC1' legend, because before then I would have sworn it was yellow, and that the globe detail itself was VERY bright green. I couldn't understand why I remembered always seeing it in yellow, when the clips showed quite clearly it was in white. However this clip shows it in yellow - just as it appeared on our set!
Thanks Aidan. I guess you are right. Another occasion BBC1 Scotland would take the network BBC1 feed would be after CBBC before Neighbours.
How can this be a recording of 405 line tv as that system was only black & white. (though yes the BBC & ITV did do tests of 405 colour in the 50's and 60's)
OK i hope this will put an end to the matter, this isn't from a scottish region, scotlaznd turned off 405 lines on Jan 3rd 1985 a thursday.. the rest of the uk turned 405 lines off on the 2nd of Jan which was a wednesday.
what i think happened is the announcer stated that the 405 will be switched off tomorrow as it was after midnight, the uploader must have thought the announcer was talking about thursday the 3rd, therefore must have pressumed a scottish region..
The announcer meant that the next day was the final *full* day of transmission on 405. On the Thursday (3rd) many 405 transmitters went off at random throughout the day, e.g. Crystal Palace 405 went off during Breakfast Time, Holme Moss went off either during some tennis coverage that afternoon or during News round, Emley Moor went off during an episode of Look Who's Talking, Burnhope went off during the Tyne Tees lunchtime regional news etc.
But you are right, this was last day in scotland. I dare say Queen Margret drive got the day off because of the Scottish only holiday on the 2nd Jan. thus it got network...
And now analog TV has shut down completly, what is the world comming too?
I think the question is not what are we coming to but what did we leave behind? It would seem appropriate to have left at least some analog stations running out of respect for what they were and how much they contributed to our world.
Wow! This is great stuff if you're a telly buff :)
Wow! This clip is quite significant for me, and to help clarify things for others on here, may I point out two things:
* There is no "the BBC *always* did yadda yadda yadda...." For everything the BBC seemed to *always* do, there were always exceptions. For instance, whilst I lived in the BBC North West region, there were rare occasions when BBC NORTH (as they branded themselves on-screen at the time) did the closedown instead of network. In the nations (I could receive Wales,), vice versa.
Quite so. I grew up in the North-West and the BBC logo was undoubtedly yellow!
Is this a colour 405 line transmission? I seem to remember they proposed colour for 405 but then rejected it in favour of PAL 605 on UHF. TA! :-)
No, this was recorded from 625 lines. 405 was still operating in a large part of the country but was closed down over the course of the 48 hours which followed. It had, since 1969, carried the same programmes, except Open University, but of course in a lower resolution and without colour.
There were indeed initial experiments with colour on 405 (using among other things a variant of NTSC, with appropriately-tweaked carrier frequencies etc.), but colour in UK when it officially started - and until the end of analogue - was only PAL on 625 (and thus only on UHF). Most of western Europe (with the exception of France!) also only used 625 PAL, though they had it on VHF as well, as they'd always had 625 on both (only UK - and Eire - ever used 405).
Marlon Brando won the oscar for best actor for On the waterfront
I am guessing this closedown is from 1st January 1985, the same night BBC Two closed down.
1:09 wtf the star-spangled banner in uk and scotland
That's "God Save the Queen" 😆
My nightmare working as a BBC announcer would be to play the wrong track from the National Anthems album and end up playing Deutschland, Deutschland Über Alles or La Marseillaise or the Polish national anthem - which would be the lesser of two evils between that and The Sex Pistols’ song God Save The Queen!
Although, being colour this is 625!
This is from Tusday 27th November 1984.
+Tristans Krūms It's 2nd January 1985. As the announcer said, the 405-line TV system was due to close down the next day, which was 3rd January 1985.
I'm sorry. But this is a Wednesday 2nd January 1985.VintageLynx is uploaded this video with announcer is David Miles.This is not BBC1 405 lines closedown , but this is BBC1 closedown.
+Aidan Lunn (Ferguson Videostar) New Years Day, surely? These programmes are the line-up for Weds 2nd (according to Genome) & are referred to as 'tomorrow'.
Thinking about doing that
Marlon Brando won for best actor, Eva Marie Saint won for best supporting actress but Karl Malden didn't win, he lost to Edmond O'Brien who won for The Barefoot Contessa.
I'm just informing you of the facts. I can't force you to believe it.
what music is that at the end
The UK national anthem, "God Save the Queen" [or King!]; in the days before they went 24 hours, British stations usually played it (usually that particular recording, at least for the BBC stations!) before the fade to black and test tone, at the end of the day. It's still used on _Radio_ 4 about 1 a. m., before they hand over to the World Service on the same channels.
@@G6JPG hmm thanks
the guy said TOMORROW!!!!!
Yes, but it was after midnight! (It's not uncommon for such announcers to say "tomorrow" in such circumstances.) Though I agree, I was expecting the final few minutes of actual 405 (which would not of course have been in colour). Still, there are plenty of other clips of that on here.
The television "day" runs from 6am to 5.59am the following day.
405 lines? I remember it as 525 lines.
It was pal 405 lines with AM sound ) then we changed to 625 lines pal later on nicam stereo near instantaniously companded audio multiplex ) with fm sound carrier, the pictures at home of my sony from our local relay were cristal clear, the digital, dvbt dont come close
525 lines is american NTSC, not the British system A
@@devonguy02 'PAL' refers to the color encoding system used on 625 lines. The 405 system was black & white only so didn't have any colour encoding system.
@@johnr6168 it stands for phaze alternating line principle pal it was a German system we adopted the others were secam and ntsc
@@devonguy02 It does indeed. I was just pointing out that you'd put 'PAL 405 lines' in your comment above, but it was just '405 lines'. The NICAM sound was the last technical addition in 1991 to the 625 system after teletext in 1974 and of course colour in 1967.