The Trinity in the Old Testament: Explaining and Responding to a Downgrade Trend (Part One)

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  • This is the first of two lectures that I gave on the Trinity back in March of 2019 in Mechanicsville, Virginia at Knox Reformed Church (OPC). In it I explain the problem with claiming that the OT is bereft of any revelation of the Trinity, the inadequacy of certain attempts to deal with the problems such a denial creates, and gave cursory case for believing that the Trinity was revealed in the OT (the latter of which I went into in greater detail in the second lecture).
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  • @jamalkhan3708
    @jamalkhan3708 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Great teaching. It was very informative for me as a ex Muslim converted Christian. Thank you reverend Anthony. God bless you and your ministry.

    • @Ousias1
      @Ousias1  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Praise the Lord. I’m delighted to hear of your conversion to Christ and also of the fact that this teaching was a blessing to you. God bless you as well. Stay tuned for part two…

    • @sahlualmedom905
      @sahlualmedom905 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who is Jamal Khan

    • @Yce_Take
      @Yce_Take ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ousias1 *"The Lord, our God, the Lord are/is one" actually proves God is Trinity.*
      You understand that, right?

    • @dgreenja
      @dgreenja ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Yce_Take does that sh'ma verse of Deut 6:4 in itself teach a trinity, or did you arrival at that conclusion based on how trinitarians see the seeming plural verses?

    • @Yce_Take
      @Yce_Take ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dgreenja Yes! Sh'ma verse of Deut 6:4 in itself teaches a trinity: the Lord (1), our God (2), the Lord (3) are one complex unity of three.

  • @duvancontrerasborja6239
    @duvancontrerasborja6239 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Go ahead! Glory glory glory be to the Holy Trinity for everlasting

  • @vincentawbrey8800
    @vincentawbrey8800 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    While the Doctrine of the Triune Godhead is indeed a mystery, nevertheless God has revealed Himself as a Trinity throughout both the Old and New Testaments.

    • @delrico8788
      @delrico8788 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amen

    • @theeternalsbeliever1779
      @theeternalsbeliever1779 ปีที่แล้ว

      The First Testament does not reveal anything about a triune God, and whoever makes such a claim is intellectually dishonest at least. Not only does John plainly state that NOBODY was aware of the Father's existence before Christ revealed the Most High God and he Word didn't become Father and Son until the Word was begotten as a human being. Jhn 1:1 clearly mentions only _2_ Beings who have as existed as God.

    • @logicianbones
      @logicianbones ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@theeternalsbeliever1779 The First Testament does reveal a lot about a triune God, and whoever makes a claim to the contrary is intellectually dishonest at least (okay, the satire is too cruel LOL -- or they might just be innocently ignorant but I can play your bald assertion game too -- PROVE IT). John plainly states that EVERYTHING that was created was created by Christ (John 1:1-3). It says nothing about two "beings" and in fact confirms they're both God (not two gods).

    • @logicianbones
      @logicianbones ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theeternalsbeliever1779 Father is cited in OT too; this is shown in the second video. Please cite where John supposedly said this! (Maybe you mean didn't SEE the Father, or know the Father -- doesn't mean didn't know OF the Father, and even if in the OT they hadn't known he was called Father (which is false), that wouldn't be a problem per se. God is free to introduce new titles for himself.

    • @logicianbones
      @logicianbones ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@theeternalsbeliever1779 As for the idea that they didn't become Father and Son until some point in time, first, there is a verse that may imply this terminology change, but if it does mean that, why is that a problem? (But more likely it means that's when it becomes literal and fulfilled.) Second, since other passages do say things like "kiss the Son" and refer to the Father in OT, this contradicts your claim that this isn't in the OT, and even this cite (in Psalm 2) is OT! Third, it actually defines "begotten" as when Christ becomes king, not when he's born, so teaches pre-existence by extension.
      This can be applied to other Unitarian arguments (not sure if you would use those, but some would) that claim "only begotten son" teaches a beginning. Your wording around the Word may imply you wouldn't, but is a problem for Unitarianism, as the Word/Wisdom of God can hardly have a beginning. The OT identification of the Son this way is revelation of at least the "Two Powers" view (and in wider context with Spirit teaches the triune God). This all contradicts your opening claim.

  • @aniketeuler6443
    @aniketeuler6443 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Finally brother uploaded this lecture was waiting 😍

  • @joshhigdon4951
    @joshhigdon4951 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great stuff! Will be awaiting part 2.

  • @JLMISR
    @JLMISR ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THANK YOU, I SHARED IT WITH OTHERS, IT IS FANTASTIC!!! MUST WATCH AGAIN, AND TAKE NOTES! CAN'T WAIT FOR PART 2 !!!

    • @Ousias1
      @Ousias1  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Part Two is already out.

    • @JLMISR
      @JLMISR ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ousias1 Great! Thank you for the heads up! I am going to watch it now!!!!!

  • @jbjoeychic
    @jbjoeychic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Truly outstanding talk as always from A.R.

  • @bstein9500
    @bstein9500 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Meat. Looking forward to the next.

  • @christsoldier1
    @christsoldier1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great teaching,thank you 🙏🏾

  • @midnighthymn
    @midnighthymn ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent lecture.

  • @farisadam6412
    @farisadam6412 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks!

    • @farisadam6412
      @farisadam6412 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      God bless you, Sir ✝️

  • @mikeabrahams5023
    @mikeabrahams5023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:59 (ish) Luther, Calvin and who? Excuse my ignorance.

  • @michielvdvlies3315
    @michielvdvlies3315 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a question regarding Judaism and the Trinity. How would jews defend their position from genesis 18 since verse 2 says God appeared to Abraham as 3 anasim (men, which can never be translated to angel)

  • @Anna-mc3ll
    @Anna-mc3ll ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing this truly interesting presentation!
    Do you have any videos about the concepts of hell, purgatory, salvation, eternal life, etc.?
    If I may ask you: do you belong to a specific denomination?
    What will happen to those who either consider themselves atheists or follow another religion?
    Finally, is baptism necessary for salvation? If so, how to figure out where (in which church) one should get baptized?
    It would be very helpful if you could share your comments on these crucial issues!
    Kind regards,
    Anna

  • @michielvdvlies3315
    @michielvdvlies3315 ปีที่แล้ว

    But the shema consists of 3 separate scriptures (Deutoronomy 6:4-9, Deutoronomy 11:13-21 and Numbers 15:37-41) Tanakh is dividend in 3 parts, the levitical priesthood Aaron, Moses and Miriam. And why does the shema in Deutoronomy mentions God three times, if God was one as in monotheism why Moses wrote "Adonai, Eloheinu, Adonai echad?

  • @approvedofGod
    @approvedofGod 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The historian Dr. Needham points to the "trinity" resting on the shoulders of the Ante-Nicene Fathers. They were the ones that introduced the "trinity" into the Church. They were not popular, nor were they accepted. The majority of Christians were "Monarchian" according to Tertullian. They believed in only one God, who could not be divided. That is why Constantine's participation turned the world upside down with the New State Law and State Religion. All non-Trinitarians were persecuted from that point on. So, it was not the early Church that taught the Trinity! Your title does not make sense.

  • @gunavkrp5156
    @gunavkrp5156 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ex 31:18 (Deu 5:22)
    And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of Elohim
    ויתן אל משה ככלתו לדבר אתו בהר סיני שני לחת העדת לחת אבן כתבים באצבע אלהים׃
    👉 Come those who are mute (אלמים H483), I shall give to all the perfection (H8502 [Ps 119:96]) of the WORD and SON : You wrote and instructed me about the Messiah YEHOSHUA who was hanged (תלה H8518) on a tree, (He is) a stone of stumbling (דחי H1762 [Isa 8:14;Mat 21:42-44]) that was hanged (תלה H8518) / mocked (הָתַל H2048)
    בא אלמים אתן לכל תכלה את דבר ובן : כתבת ויסרני משיח יהושע תלה בעץ אבן דחי התל
    👉 Come all the mute daughters! I shall give WORD that will not be exhausted (תכלה H3615 [1Ki 17:14]) :
    You wrote and instructed me about the Messiah YEHOSHUA who was hanged (תלה H8518) on a tree, (He is) a stone of stumbling (דחי H1762 [Isa 8:14]) that was hanged (תלה H8518) / mocked (הָתַל H2048)
    בא כל בנות אלמים אתן דבר לא תכלה : כתבת ויסרני משיח יהושע תלה בעץ אבן דחי תלה
    • Isa 8:11,14 For YHVH spoke thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying:… He will be as a sanctuary, But a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense to both the houses of Israel, as a trap and a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
    • Ps 118:22-24;Isa 28:16;Matt 21:42-44;Mark 12:10;Luke 20:17 Act 4:11;Rom 9:33
    The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief cornerstone. This was YHVH’s doing; It is marvelous in our eyes. This is the day YHVH has made; We will rejoice and be glad in it.

  • @bernardmichaud1099
    @bernardmichaud1099 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Trinity in the Old Testament (NASB). Hebrew added to NASB verses from Strong 's Concordance in ( ). Notice the spelling, Lord GOD and LORD God. (KJV,NASB,ESV).
    Isaiah 48
    16 Come near to Me, listen to this: From the first I have not spoken in secret, From the time it took place, I was there. And now the Lord GOD(אֲדֹנָי ’ăḏônây) ,(יְהוִֹה yhwh) has sent Me, and His Spirit(רוּחַ rûaḥ).”
    17 Thus says the LORD(יְהוָֹה yhwh), your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel, “I am the LORD your God,(יְהוָֹה yhwh) (אֱלֹהִים ’elôhîym), who teaches you to profit, Who leads you in the way you should go.
    ONE GOD, THREE persons.
    1- Lord(אֲדֹנָי ’ăḏônây) GOD(יְהוִֹה yhwh) has sent Me, and His Spirit(רוּחַ rûaḥ). This is the Father which no man has ever seen.
    2- LORD(יְהוָֹה yhwh) your God(אֱלֹהִים ’elôhîym). The Son. the Redeemer, and creator incarnated as Jesus.
    3- His Spirit(רוּחַ rûaḥ).
    Gen. 1:1, In the beginning God (אֱלֹהִים ’elôhîym) created the heavens and the earth.
    Ezek. 28:12, Son of man ... ‘This is what the Lord GOD (אֲדֹנָי ’ăḏônây) ,(יְהוִֹה yhwh) says .....

    • @dreameruy9510
      @dreameruy9510 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      God is One and ALONE
      Besides me There was no God formed
      Neither shall there be After me
      The scripture says
      Whosoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God (2jn1:9)
      Jesus said O righteous Father the World have not known you but I know you and this have known that you sent me Jn17:25
      Very Very Clear Verse
      JESUS SAID THE WORLD HAS NOT KNOWN GOD ALMIGHTY
      Where did Jesus teach YHWH , ELOHIM..?
      Can you provide even only one verse...?

    • @bernardmichaud1099
      @bernardmichaud1099 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dreameruy9510 I'm not sure what you mean by "Where did Jesus teach YHWH , ELOHIM..? because Jesus is " YHWH , ELOHIM". He did teach about "ADONAY, YHWH", in John 6:46 (Not that anyone has seen the Father ",ADONAY, YHWH" except the One "YHWH , ELOHIM" who is from God; He has seen the Father). Se also 1 Timothy 6:15 & 16, which He will bring about at the proper time-He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16 who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, " whom no one has seen or can see" (ADONAY, YHWH). To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen

  • @markrademaker5875
    @markrademaker5875 ปีที่แล้ว

    What Scripture(s) Teaches us which doctrines are fundamental and which are not? For example, is one's millenial view fundamental? In other words, what Scripture Says, "Your millenial view is not a salvific issue." or "Your millenial view is a salvific issue."?

    • @michellejohnsen912
      @michellejohnsen912 ปีที่แล้ว

      If a scripture states someone will die without it, or die if they commit a certain sin, these would be "a salvation issue ". Does that make sense? It's usually very clear. I've noticed alot of positions Christians differ about actually having multiple fulfillments and most don't think they do, or have never thought this is an option. For example, the rapture. There's 3 different options that cause alot of arguments among brethren. Pre-trib, mid-trib or post-trib. These are all found in the Bible that is why people have thought they are options. Since the rapture isn't as clear as some other issues, there's alot of bickering among the different positions. Myself and others, usually a minority at this time, see all of them as valid and going to happen. In other words, we believe there's 3 raptures. The rapture is not a salvation issue, so if we get it wrong or misunderstand, it's okay we don't have to freak out. Problem is, alot of Christians do freak out over it and cause disunity. Jesus wants us to be united. This was longer than I intended, thank you for your patience and I hope it was helpful. God bless 🕊

  • @reynaldoperez7285
    @reynaldoperez7285 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are those who declare that God the Father and Jesus Christ, are the same person. They contend that Jesus is merely a manifestation or development or role of the Father. The Bible, however, says that the Father and Jesus are distinct from each other. They are not the same person. There are several ways in which the Bible illustrates this truth.
    1. The Father Sent the Son
    Another distinction we have between the Father and the Son is that the Father is the sender and Jesus, the Son, is the one sent.
    Jesus said that it was God the Father who sent Him into the world.
    "My food," said Jesus, "is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work" (John 4:34).
    He emphasized it again
    By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me (John 5:30).
    Jesus made it clear the Father had set Him apart and sent Him into the world.
    What about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, `I am God's Son'? (John 10:36).
    Jesus said that His words came from the Father.
    For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it (John 12:49)
    The Apostle Paul also testified that the Father sent the Son into the world:
    But when the fulness of the time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of a woman, born under the law (Galatians 4:4).
    2. The Father Testified To The Son
    The Bible speaks of the Father testifying of the Son:
    If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. There is another who bears witness of me, and I know that the witness which he witnesses of me is true . . . And the Father himself, who sent me, has testified of me (John 5:31,32,37).
    In this passage, Jesus is speaking to the religious leaders. He says that He is not the only one who is testifying concerning Himself. Jesus mentions the testimony of John the Baptist and the testimony of God the Father. Jesus contrasts His testimony from that of the Father showing that they are two distinct persons. The Father provides additional testimony to the character of Jesus.
    3. Jesus Prayed to the Father
    The two divine persons-God the Father and God the Son-exist eternally and distinctly in an interpersonal relationship. For example, in the Garden of Gethsemane Jesus did not pray to Himself, but to the Father. In Jesus' prayer to God the Father, the clear distinction is made between the two of them. He prayed.
    I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in me through their word; that they may all be one; even as you, Father, are in me and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. "The glory which you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one, just as we are one; I in them and you in me, that they may be perfected in unity, so that the world may know that you sent me, and loved them, even as you have loved me (John 17:20-23).
    4. There Was Mutual Knowledge and Love between the Father and the Son
    Scripture speaks of the mutual knowledge and love that God the Father and God the Son have for one another. Jesus said.
    All things have been handed over to me by my Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal him (Matthew 11:27).
    Jesus also said.
    The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand (John 3:35).
    5. Jesus Did the Father's Will
    Jesus did the will of the Father not His own will.
    Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father?' "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own initiative, but the Father abiding in me does his works. Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves (John 14:8-11).
    Jesus did not say He was the Father but rather He was the one who perfectly represented the Father. However Jesus testified that God the Father was with Him in a mystical way.
    6. No One Can Get to God the Father Except Through Jesus the Son
    Jesus told people to believe in Him.
    Do not let your hearts be troubled. Believe in God, believe also in me (John 14:1).
    The Bible also makes it clear that one cannot know God the Father apart from Jesus
    Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also; from now on you know him, and have seen him" (John 14:6).
    Paul wrote.
    For there is one God; there is also one mediator between God and humankind, Christ Jesus, himself human (1 Timothy 2:5)..
    JESUS IS NOT THE FATHER, BUT HE IS GOD AND SO IS THE HOLYSPIRIT, RIGHT ALONG WITH THE FATHER.

  • @shanli2693
    @shanli2693 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you use the word trinity what do you mean exactly? Is it the standard definition that shows up from a google search? That God is three coequal, separate persons made up of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit? Where the Father is not the Son or the Spirit. The Son is not the Father nor the Spirit. The Spirit is not the Father nor the Son?
    If this is the case then how does this square up to Isaiah 9:6
    "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given:
    and the government shall be upon his shoulder:
    and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor,
    The mighty God,
    The everlasting Father,
    The Prince of Peace."
    This verse seems to be completely contradictory to this definition of trinity?

  • @todddavis8355
    @todddavis8355 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Catholic Church started the trinity doctrine. Canney Encyclopedia of Religion. Here the Catholics acknowledge was changed by the Catholic Church. Volume 2 page 263.

    • @Ousias1
      @Ousias1  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They would like you to think they are the authority behind the doctrine of the Trinity. Gullible people believe them. However, the Trinity is a divinely revealed truth. Watch the video.

  • @johncarter4041
    @johncarter4041 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1st Person?
    God is Spirit. He is One. That is WHAT he is.
    2nd Person?
    We call God Father. Not the Son. That is WHO he is.
    3rd Person?
    Jesus is the Christ (anointed) "Son" of God.
    Birds in the air are not persons.
    Fish in the water are not persons.
    Amphibians and reptiles are not persons.
    Animals on the land are not persons.
    A human (mankind) is a person.
    God is not a Man therefore God is not person. If God is not a man/ person he is not 3 persons/people.
    There is One God, the Father who is Spirit and One Lord the man Jesus Christ which is a person.
    The 3 person Deity originally came from Babylon.
    No number of educated idiots or religious theologians or preachers with their abundance of words twisting scripture to conform to their preconceived paganistic ideas will change the fact that the Spirit of God is our Father and Jesus Christ his Son is the Express Image of the Invisible God.
    If God is 3 persons then why does he say God is One.
    If God is a Trinity why not just say it in the Bible

    • @logicianbones
      @logicianbones ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Begs the question of whether humans are the only "persons." In fact angels and God are spoken of that way using the grammar for it. When God addresses God as "you" that is the second PERSON pronoun. Do your research.
      And it does say it. That's the whole point.

    • @eswn1816
      @eswn1816 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ye'shua, the Word (God) in human form, was, in your opinion, a created being?
      That's a dangerous thought... 🙏
      Here's what Paul taught:
      Colossians 1
      16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
      17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. "
      ALL things were created by Him. "He" IS God, the creator and sustainer of ALL THINGS!

  • @ThePelicular
    @ThePelicular 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Of course you don't have time to quote the old covenant because there is nothing there to backup your assumptions, so go straight to a book of dogma.Actually the O.C. does mention people that believed in trinities of gods but they are referred to as heathens or pagans. That concept of trinity would have meant a death sentence by stoneing if found out. That is probably why it didn't catch on in ancient Israel. History tells us that when trinity did catch on many centuries after Christ, the death penalty came to those who would not endorse trinity and oddly enough that is when the trinity really picked up steam. I don't know if pagans reached that level of depravity.

  • @joykeebler1916
    @joykeebler1916 ปีที่แล้ว

    - the Tri´un´e God is the reference:

  • @Glockenstein0869
    @Glockenstein0869 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoy The Reverend AR's teachings. However, I don't understand how he can be 'reformed'. He seems very intelligent and sincere. Surely he could reconcile Romans 9....

    • @MrCharlesMartel
      @MrCharlesMartel ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why would an intelligent Christian try to reconcile Romans 9 (and Ephesians 1, John 6, etc.) with the rest of the Bible? Only enemies need to be reconciled. But God’s Sovereign grace and human responsibility are perfectly harmonious biblical truths that have never been at odds with one another.

  • @leadanon127
    @leadanon127 ปีที่แล้ว

    God made Moses Elohim for Pharaoh. God is in plural here, so what God said in Genesis - let's make a man in our image, no evidence that trinity was present. Jesus was the firstborn of all creation, means, he was first creation.

    • @logicianbones
      @logicianbones ปีที่แล้ว

      Always the same old debunked arguments. When something is born, it does not begin to exist at the moment of birth. That language is ambiguous as to whether it began or not and plenty of other passages clarify Jesus did not. And Pharoah was pagan; his perception isn't reality. God is allowed to state what Pharoah's misperception was. It isn't endorsing it. That said, the term can mean authority in general, but our argument doesn't depend solely on that; the point is these other passages define the genuine divine Elohim as pluripersonal.

    • @benny-yj7pq
      @benny-yj7pq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      JW says that, but the NT says, Yeshua made everything and without Him nothing is made, that excludes being created. Yeshua is the "FIRSTBORN" of creation means, He is the original of all creation. He is also the firstborn of the dead (Col 1:15, Heb 12:23).

    • @leadanon127
      @leadanon127 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@benny-yj7pq without him doesn't mean he did.

    • @benny-yj7pq
      @benny-yj7pq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@leadanon127 Yes, He created everything. If you cannot read, no one can help you.

  • @LeonTheLion-777
    @LeonTheLion-777 ปีที่แล้ว

    The MOST compelling point to me of the evidence that the Holy Spirit absolutely cannot be a separate entity is this:
    The Bible says the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary.
    That would make the Holy Spirit Jesus’ father.
    That would mean God the Father is actually not Jesus’ father.
    That would make Jesus a liar. And God not the father. And the holy spirit then would take the seat as the Father of the godhead/god family. Which is the position Satan has been vying for…to be father/head of the gods. which puts a very sinister slant on the concept of a Trinity. Who is the entity trying to be acknowledged at a level above God?

    • @toluwaniolujimi3364
      @toluwaniolujimi3364 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have forgotten that Jesus always existed

  • @gunavkrp5156
    @gunavkrp5156 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jos 11:15 (John 5:19,12:49,14:31)
    As YHVH had commanded Moses His servant, so Moses commanded Joshua, and so Joshua did. He left nothing undone of all that YHVH had commanded Moses.
    כאשר צוה יהוה את משה עבדו כן צוה משה את יהושע וכן עשה יהושע לא הסיר דבר מכל אשר צוה יהוה את משה׃
    👉 The NAME YEHOSHUA is like a field of TREASURE and thus find understanding of the NAME which is (Alpha-Omega) YEHOSHUA; and so do not turn/take away (הסר H5493) the WORDs of insight/widsom (שכל H7919,H7922 [See also Neh 8:8]) : YEHOSHUA said, “Do what YHVH commanded”.
    (Or YEHOSHUA did not turn away from doing what YHVH (the Father) commanded [John 14:31])
    את השם יהושע כשדה אוצר וכה מצאה תבונה השם את יהושע וכן לא הסר דברי שכל אמר עשה יהושע צוה יהוה
    👉 The NAME YEHOSHUA is like TREASURE (אוצר H214 [Prov 2:4;Mat 13:44]) field, thus (with) understanding (תבונה H8394) she found the NAME : (Alpha-Omega) YEHOSHUA; And So do not turn/take away (הסר H5493) the Saying (אמריה H561 [Prov 1:21] ) of Wisdom/Understanding (H7919,H7922), (which) YEHOSHUA spoke (and) YEHOSHUA commanded ([Matt 7:24]).
    את השם יהושע כשדה אוצר וכה תבונה מצאה השם את יהושע וכן לא הסר אמריה השכל דבר יהושע צוה יהושע
    🔥 Matt 13:44-46 The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and in his joy he went and sold all he had and bought that field. Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant in search of fine pearl. When he found one very precious pearl, he went away and sold all he had and bought it.
    • John 5:19 Then Jesus answered and said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner.
    • John 12:49-50 For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. And I know that His command is everlasting life. Therefore, whatever I speak, just as the Father has told Me, so I speak.
    • John 14:31 But that the world may know that I love the Father, and as the Father gave Me commandment, so I do. Arise, let us go from here.
    • Heb 10:1a For the law (Torah), having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things
    • Col 2:17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
    • Matt 2:23 And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, “He shall be called a Nazarene.”
    • Prov 2:2-6 My son, if you receive my words, and treasure my commands within you, So that you incline your ear to wisdom, and apply your heart to understanding. Yes, if you cry out for discernment, and lift up your voice for understanding. If you seek her as silver, and search for her as for hidden treasures; Then you will understand the fear of YHVH, and find the knowledge of Elohim. For YHVH gives wisdom; From His mouth come knowledge and understanding;

    • @delrico8788
      @delrico8788 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jesus is Yahweh the Son in which the Bible teaches. What did God the Father call Jesus? 👉🏾Hebrews 1:6-10 👉🏾“Let all God’s angels worship Him.”👈🏾
      7Now about the angels He says:
      “He makes His angels winds,
      His servants flames of fire.”f
      8But about the Son He says:
      👉🏾“Your throne, 👉🏾O God, 👈🏾endures forever and ever,
      and justice is the scepter of Your kingdom.
      9You have loved righteousness
      and hated wickedness;
      therefore👉🏾 God,👈🏾 Your God, has anointed You
      above Your companions with the oil of joy.”g
      10And:
      “In the beginning, O 👉🏾Lord,👉🏾 You laid the foundations of 👉🏾the earth,
      and the heavens👈🏾 are the work of 👉🏾Your hands.👈🏾

  • @GtStNw1
    @GtStNw1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Trinity is delusion. God The Father is The Father of Jesus with whome He(God) is well pleased. Jesus is Son of God, The Lamb of God, The Word of God and The Temple of God. Jesus is Of God.
    @cpstudent8877
    John 14:1
    King James Bible
    Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me

    • @joshhigdon4951
      @joshhigdon4951 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jesus is God. The Father is God. The Holy Spirit is God. If you serve any other God than has what has been reavealed, you're worshipping a false god.

    • @GtStNw1
      @GtStNw1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshhigdon4951
      1 Corintians 8:6
      "Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist'

    • @vincentawbrey8800
      @vincentawbrey8800 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jesus also said to Philip in John 14 that "He who has seen Him has seen the Father".. Jesus is both fully God and fully human, (Col. 2:9; Phil. 2:6). The Holy Spirit is God, (Gen. 1:3; Acts 5). All Three Persons of the Godhead were active throughout the Old Testament.

    • @firstnamelastname2552
      @firstnamelastname2552 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Paul says Jesus is "our great God and Savior Jesus Christ" (Titus 2:13)
      Peter says Jesus is "our God and Savior Jesus Christ" (2 Peter 1:1)
      Thomas says Jesus is "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28)

    • @duvancontrerasborja6239
      @duvancontrerasborja6239 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rather the Trinity is the believe that the Godhead is one in substance but three in person, this is a mistery for our minds but it it the God That is Revealed thought all the Bible, The Father is God, The Son is God And The Holy spirit is God