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Commercial Dolby Atmos has a 7.1.2 (9.1) channel bed and up to 118 discrete 3D objects. Due to space and data rate limitations in consumer media, the consumer lossless TrueHD version of Dolby Atmos has a 7.1 channel bed and uses a technique called spatial compression that analyzes the steering metadata in the mixing software to allow up to 118 objects to be "clustered" or "zoned" into larger groupings of objects with similar 3D panning coordinates rather than each and every discrete object being encoded individually. The final product is packed, encoded, and output as a 16 channel track with additional object panning and sizing metadata.
Thank you so much for making these videos. I love learning about all this stuff, specially Im a huge movie person and looking to build my own mini home theater. Sound cannot be uderestimated when it comes to immersing yourself in a film
I am running a 7.3.4 atmos system in my movie room viewing a 77” oled . I repurposed my old system and placed a 5.1 set up in my bedroom with a 75” tv. My living room has a 6.1 b&w system. I am using a sound bar in my kitchen. Over the past summer I installed a 58” 4K television and 7 speaker system in my garage. The atmos system is really awesome.
Are all these systems by the same manufacture? I was surprised how well a Sonos integrated system sounded, my friend has it through his house with a main server in the laundry room, he can move around each room and watch the same movie, or connect rooms to play the same music through out the house using a playlist on his phone.
Nice video explanation I'm actually subscribed to you. I normally never subscribe to a lot of tech guys because I'm a tech guy myself. However, I'm more an audio/video guy. I think one of the important factors that a lot of audio explanation online fails to explain it is that people need to have realistic expectations. Yes Atmos is great, if you have a full surround speaker setup. A TV with Atmos surround decoding will only simulate the experience in the same way that older tvs had 'Dolby digital 5.1' or labeled as 'surround'. This was before HDMI was around during component video era. You cannot get real surround sound from a two-speaker setup and you cannot get full Atmos experience from a sound bar, even if they have multiple speakers coming out of the front with one pointing at the ceiling because you're missing your back/side speakers plus the positioning and power comes into play. Atmos creates a bubble when it's positioned around you. Obviously, you'll hear things slightly different if somebody is going from a television, to a sound bar, because of the multiple speakers in the front and it being a different type of sound but a receiver with this full surround setup is the way to really get a full Atmos Experience. It's also good for sound bar decoding. Whenever I see audio and video being explained online very rarely does it get mentioned that the way to go was with a receiver and a surround setup. If you can't get that due to the size and limitation of the house/apartment then obviously stepped back down to a sound bar. Online I see a lot of people pushing sound bars and people are purchasing them even the really expensive variety and then listen to a receiver with the surround sound setup and it's like night and day.
@@floydald For what you’re using it for I would definitely recommend a sound bar. Things like Atmos are normally included in either subscription paid movie streaming services like Apple TV+, Disney+ etc. like in the video said or UHD stations on TV like Comcast etc. for regular TV watching you don’t wanna go overboard and buy a full-blown surroundsound system because not all the channels support it and it would be overkill. If you’re not into gaming, or separate movie theater watching like on streams, or 4K Blu-ray Disc. It makes no sense to go that route. You can go the middle direction and go with the sound bar system. Just make sure that it has a subwoofer. I would normally go with Klipsch sound bar but I have a surroundsound system and not into sound bars cause I can’t really recommend one but if I had to choose one I would go with the Klipsch route because they make good products however not everybody likes their sound because their horn driven speakers and some people say they sound too bright to them depending on the ear. But yeah about 500 is the middle ground maybe even 700.
Excellent comment! I've been into Atmos from the beginning and I've gone from budget to mid-range to my current high-end audiophile grade 5.2.4 small living room setup (click the Red Dragon twice to view) so I've had my fair share of experience and I I would just like to say... your comment is pretty much banging on. 👍
@@totalplonker824 I saw your videos and liked them.. nice setup. I saw that you had your speakers pointing directly at you wall (front mounted) which is the way to go instead of reflective. Reflective you need to have a specific height ceiling so that it can rain on you but sometimes it can spread its to thin. Vs direct, ceiling aimed at center is the way to go. I wish more would adopt that set up style. The funny thing is that some receiver manufacturers actually had that set up before Atmos was the thing, it was called heights channels. Aimed at expanding the sound stage. Now its properly being used.
Thanks for taking the time to inform people about Atmos, but maybe you can address my main concern with Dolby Atmos, it's the missing interaction between objects... I can fly an object around the room, but it' doesn't interact with its environment. An example is throwing a rock in the pond that generates ripples, but with Atmos there's no ripples interacting with other objects like the shore. In addition is all the additional hardware required, this normally results in cheap components like amps or speakers. can you address these concerns? I have a Krell 5.1 system that sounds much better then any Atmos system I've reviewed, the big difference is Atmos will rely on moving objects from speaker to speaker, attempting to create a bubble of sound... the Krell on the other hand makes the speakers disappear completely, an example of this is the opening scene from Open Range, I'm sitting in the middle of a wheat field with rustling wheat and a thunder storm off in the distance, I'm in a bubble of sound because the speakers disappear. Check out the train wreck scene in Super 8, the train door is ripped off, hovers in the air, and lands in the middle of the room... I do find it funny how people keep attempting to put the listener on the stage between band members, but that's now how live music sounds... you're at the back of the theater, or front center stage... but never standing in the middle of the stage.
The father of Atmos is Dolby Prologic 2zx..that has also 4x Upfiring speakers, CL, CC, CR, L,R, Side L, SideR, RearC, RearL,RearC , 6 channels audio ( 5.1) and for the rest, metadata. Prologic 2 : AAC 5.1 audio for MKV/ AVI movies is encoded in 2channels audio and metadata for the rest.
Great breakdown. Perhaps on a future video run demo / pro’s / con’s of sound bars that have upward fireing speakers with rears, versus a traditional system hooked up to a receiver which both run ATMOS. To my mind a sound bar would do this better as it has specific speakers to push sound up.
Personally, I found understanding audio objects crucial to comprehending how different Atmos is from traditional audio approaches. A sound engineer’s ability to assign coordinates in the 3D space during mixing rather than being restricted to conventional channels helped me understand how Atmos can scale from 2-channel headphones to dozens of independent speakers in a cinema installation. I’ve noticed that you use Ford v Ferrari in recent tests. It’s a great state of the art example. Also check out Roma on Netflix. It’s not as in your face as action films but in many ways the Atmos audio serves as an additional character in the story.
Yep but also remember a good system is needed to “evaluate” your room size, speaker distances, amount of speakers. Digital processing is needed to accurately map the coordinates
Hi Jonah, Great video thanks for the details. I really enjoy your videos. I have a simple question ... My TV has an eARC port but the TV does not support Dolby Atmos or DTS X. So, if I connect this to a sound bar with Atmos can i get audio from TV, using streaming apps like netflix, prime etc, with Atmos effect... Hope you can clear this doubt. Thanks J
When I Load a album on Amazon Music on phone it say Atmos when I play a track it is very instrumentally Detailed but when I load the same Album on Amazon music on my Laptop it only says HD and its less Detailed. so I agree to your info.
I still feel that connection thru earc gives a better quality sound or atmos. If i connect apple tv 4k with the hdmi port of tv, and soundbar with tv thru hdmi earc, the sound is better : as compared to connecting apple tv 4k directly to " hdmi in" of soundbar and then "hdmi out" of soundbar to hdmi port of the tv. All cables used were belkin hdmi 2.1 cables. Sound bars were Samsung hw- Q950T and sony ht-st5000. Both gave same results. What are your thoughts?
Does it make a difference in Audio & Video quality while playing a movie on an online streaming app installed in the TV and the same app on a media player like Apple TV, firestick etc.?? If yes, it it a noticeable difference? I mean is it worth spending extra money on a media player?
When I play tv inbuilt TH-cam app, my Sonos’s Arc plays “Dolby digital 2.0”! What’s that format? When I play 4K uhd content on Netflix, it plays “Dolby digital plus 5.1”
I have a Apple Tv HD Lastest Version ,Samasing Series 7 2020 and Vizio Series M with Dolby Atmos .The only thing I would need to upgrade is to Apple TV 4k and supported HDMI's and thats all ?
Hello , I would like to ask one question. I have order Q950A Samsung soundbar and I will connected to my Samsung Qled Q70 2019 tv (does not has e-arc but it has arc HDMI). From what I understand at the best case scenario I will have compressed Dolby Atmos. But I am thinking if i will buy google cromcast or apple tv and connect the tv box first to the soundbar and then to the TV (passthrow hdmi on soundbar) will improve the Atmos experience? thank you a lot for the videos I will expect your opinion!!
the trick is separate the frecuency from front speakers, center and rear speakers, puting other speakers, in the same frecuency that where you want to put it on the room, i prefer 7,1 audio sistem
Thanks, Jonah, I love your videos and reviews. I have been a home theater enthusiast for more than 20 years and appreciate your efforts in explaining these things. My current situation would not allow me to enjoy a proper home-theater setup, so after few reviews in I bought an Apple TV and AirPods 3, and WOW I was amazed how head-tracking could give you a decent movie experience. Would love to a see your review on similar setup.
Hi Jonah, thank you for a very informative video on Dolby Atmos. I have a medium sized living room open concept to the kitchen and very limited to utilizing a lot of speakers. Will I lose a lot of immersive sound and affects if I go to a sound bar, wireless sub, and two wireless rear speaker if I buy a Dolby Atmos sound bar that is a 5.1.2 type as opposed to the 7.1.2? Thanks again. Gettin ready to drop the cash on one. All the best, Jorge
Great presentation I now understand a little more But still have many Questions. I finally figured learned how to place sounds to different Speakers of my Dolby 5.1 Sound Sound bar with DaVinci Resolve (FREE). I bought DR 17 STUDIO because it's supposed to be able to mix Dolby Atmos. I now have been told that one needs (besides expensive Equipment) some kind of License from Dolby. And much like TH-cam not even supporting Anything but Stereo UT doesn't even support 5.1/7.1Surround sound much less Dolby Atmos. Question 1 What License? Question 2, So Where can a Person UP LOAD their hard Work so others may hear their productions anyway?
This video was very helpful. I have a TV that only supports ARC and not eARC so I had to connect my xbox directly to my sound bar for the atmos. Now I just need to buy myself another TV hahaha.
Hey man. I have a Samsung q80r 75 inch tv. Have my 950a Samsung soundbar hooked up to EARC HDMI input. I recently Hooked my rtx 3090 pc to tv, I tried enabling Dolby ATMOS but cannot ??? I even have an extra HDMI from graphics card to soundbar. Am I missing something ? Any tips/help would help big time. Even when I download Dolby app it says it’s compatible but still cannot enable Dolby ATMOS
Thanks for a great episode. As my Panasonic TH-55FZ950U TV only has ARC and optical, I assume it will not pass ATMOS through to an ATMOS soundbar or receiver. Wanting not to have to replace the TV, my best option seems to be Apple 4K connected to an ATMOS enabled receiver with passthrough to pass the video signal to the TV. Most soundbars do not have passthrough - correct? I am thinking of getting a receiver like the Yamaha RXV6A, using my existing Magnat 5:1 speakers and adding at least one pair of height speakers. The Yamaha can use MusicCast for rears which may save visible wiring. Is there another choice you would suggest? In truth, as we mainly watch drama, voice intelligibility is actually more important than a surround experience. We only have a small area with lounge against the back wall 8 ft and 10 inches away (2700 mm). Any thoughts much appreciated. Finally, why do you feel remote device like Apple TV 4K delivers best results? Greetings from Brisbane.
Is there a way to look at the TV settings panel to see what it's actually decoding video and sound wise? I know all TV's are quite different but it seems to me that you should be able to view this in some way. I have a newer AppleTV 4K, a 3 year old 55" Samsung Q7FN 4K TV (QN55Q7FN) and Samsung HW-Q70R soundbar. It all seems to work but then again at times I''d like to see exactly what it's doing. Thanks for your videos Jonah! I always learn from them.
Some soundbars are very upfront with the audio codec that it's using on the display or inside of the associated app. Most TVs have a display or audio button that will show some general information about the signal being received/sent. I've seen some include the audio codec, but most don't. It purely depends on the TV.
Very informative! Maybe u can explain what dtx is and how it compares and contrast with Dolby atmos? Also an idea I have is to "blind sound test" your friends/family with your sound equipment. Have them sit and watch a movie/music and have them give thier thoughts and impressions on the sound.
Doing a video exactly like that to compare Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby TrueHD to see if the average person can actually tell the difference! For DTS X, it’s a very similar concept to Dolby Atmos, except the information that’s available is extremely limited making it really difficult to make a cohesive video on it.
An unlocked consumer Dolby Atmos soundtrack (where objects are allowed to travel freely with 3D panning coordinates such as the new 4k Blu-ray of "Dune" 2021) can support a layout of up to 24.1.10. Consumer DTS: X is a fixed channel format in either standard 7.1.4 or IMAX versions with 7.1.5. If you have a particular processor or receiver that can handle more than 7.1.4/7.1.5 processing, then DTS: X Pro can upmix these limited tracks to 32 speakers using matrix logic steering techniques. It's not discrete audio information, however. DTS: X Pro is only in a limited number of products right now.
about Dolby Atmos Music, which service between Tidal, Amazon and Apple Music has (or is going to have) the most complete library that support this format? Thanks
So I'm awaiting delivery of my Lucid EV which has a 21 speaker system with Dolby Atmos. It currently has Tidal built in and will have Apple CarPlay in the near future. I have downloaded a large number of dolby atmos music from Apple Music onto my iphone. I'm wondering if I will still get good Dolby Atmos sound using my iphone via Bluetooth to connect to the car??
That's a really good question! So from what I've read on the topic, yes, you can get Dolby Atmos music through Bluetooth. There's definitely some compression going on that will make the music lossy, but regardless of the streaming platform you are using, it's likely going to be a lossy original source regardless. Happy to see Lucid and some other luxury car manufacturers adding Dolby Atmos support. My Tesla Model Y should arrive sometime in July and I'm really hoping that Tesla does an update to add Dolby Atmos support for both Movies/TV and Music. Would be really cool to experience that, but we'll have to wait and see.
@@JonahMatthes Thank you for your response. So I'm still wondering if I will hear a difference if I "stream" Tidal or Apple Music through the car's built in system vs. listening to my Dolby Atmos "Playlist" that I've created on my iphone using Apple Music?
@@saratogalefty5337 Hmm. Possibly. If you have downloaded the music to your phone at the highest quality available, then there might be a slight quality difference. Also depends on the quality level that you are streaming at.
I got a jbl 9.1 hooked to my pc trough hdmi straight into my rtx 2080. Works fine but my gpu recognise my soundbar as a display. It can become a config nightmare sometimes. I'd not recommend
I have the sonos arc with an eArc port in my TV and I just wanna know which dolby atmos I have with this setup please? Dolby atmos, dolby atmos true HD ou MAT! And we want a video about dolby vision please Jonah🙏and keep up the good work
Streaming from Netflix, Disney+, etc gets you Dolby Digital Plus (lossy Atmos). Watching Blu-rays or from a Plex Media server gets you Dolby TrueHD (lossless Atmos). Hope that makes sense! Video on Dolby Vision sounds like a great idea! Need to focus and learn more about the different technologies for TVs this year. I’m very behind haha
@@JonahMatthes not sure to understand what’s plex media, is an apple tv correct, am I gonna have the lossless dolby atmos?? And awesome, thank you bro🙏
@@yacineaber2934 A Plex Media Server is a server that you can upload movie files to. Then you can use any device to stream those movies to your TV and audio system. Lots of videos on TH-cam about what Plex is. An Apple TV will not provide any lossless Dolby Atmos unless you are using a Plex Media server. Anything streamed from Netflix, Disney+, etc. will be Dolby TrueHD.
Thanks for the breakdown. I have eARC devices (AppleTV4K and receiver) but use a projector. Would that affect me being able to receive Atmos or uncompressed audio? Or do I need separate HDMI cables just for audio? Thanks!
HDMI connection especially if it’s HDMI 2.1 can handle audio and video going through one line that’s the whole point of using them instead of going to traditional yellow , blue, white and red green component cables or the classic yellow, white, and red from vcr era. Your receiver should have an input and an output built in for hdmi. You connect all the components to the in hdmi. If you look at one of the connections it would say HDMI out, the purpose of this is to have everything connected directly to receiver and then the out portion would connect your television because you’re using a projector and you should have a projector box that has an HDMI in and it should be labeled arc as well. So you would go your Apple TV plus box and to let’s say the Blu-ray player hdmi in, then get another HDMI cable that supports hdmi 2.1 as well to go out of your receiver and connect to your TV or protector box HDMI in. Labeled arc. What’s happening here is that the audio and video of your Apple TV is pushing it into your receiver , decoding the sound and translate it to your speaker’s , then your receivers also pushing the video portion out to your projector and your projector, to the wall.
Question : if you stream music off TH-cam, will the ceiling speakers work ? I have 5.2 surround sound. Haven’t done the ceiling speakers yet due to this question. Let’s face it, not every film has helicopters lol 😂
Hi many thanks for your great job , i have question i have tv and soundbar which completely support dolby atmos connected via e arc so can i play dolby atmos in youtube ??
TH-cam and TH-cam TV don't offer Dolby Atmos audio unfortunately. I believe TH-cam TV offers 5.1 channels which would be Dolby Digital audio. TH-cam is only stereo (2 channels).
I have 300 Bose sound bar and a 7000 Samsung TV set I can’t get the Dolby atmos to work. On the tv I can’t turn the Dolby atoms to turn on on the tv. I assume that’s the sound bar is not Dolby atmos.
Dolby atmos used to mean something. It's now been liquidated down and the logo put onto low end junk like bottom end soundbars. 95% percent of people have an atmos product in the home that doesn't replicate how atmos is supposed to sound at all.
You are correct. A lot of Atmos implementations on products aren’t majorly different from non-Atmos. With surround sound systems and soundbars, it typically makes a pretty substantial difference. But headphones and single speaker setups, it’s not game changing.
I can achieve a true 3D experience with only 2 main speakers on either side of the screen. The secret is to cancel the cross talk signal that arrives at the ears. For example, the left ear should only hear sound from the left speaker. And the right ear should only hear sound from the right speaker. The result is much more convincing than having extra speakers all around the room.
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Any plans to do a similar video on DTS and its recent addition to the Sonos line?
There's no single tv box or stream box that can stream uncompressed atmos. As of today can only be done with bluray player or a PC
Commercial Dolby Atmos has a 7.1.2 (9.1) channel bed and up to 118 discrete 3D objects. Due to space and data rate limitations in consumer media, the consumer lossless TrueHD version of Dolby Atmos has a 7.1 channel bed and uses a technique called spatial compression that analyzes the steering metadata in the mixing software to allow up to 118 objects to be "clustered" or "zoned" into larger groupings of objects with similar 3D panning coordinates rather than each and every discrete object being encoded individually. The final product is packed, encoded, and output as a 16 channel track with additional object panning and sizing metadata.
Thank you so much for making these videos. I love learning about all this stuff, specially Im a huge movie person and looking to build my own mini home theater. Sound cannot be uderestimated when it comes to immersing yourself in a film
I am running a 7.3.4 atmos system in my movie room viewing a 77” oled . I repurposed my old system and placed a 5.1 set up in my bedroom with a 75” tv. My living room has a 6.1 b&w system. I am using a sound bar in my kitchen. Over the past summer I installed a 58” 4K television and 7 speaker system in my garage. The atmos system is really awesome.
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Are all these systems by the same manufacture?
I was surprised how well a Sonos integrated system sounded, my friend has it through his house with a main server in the laundry room, he can move around each room and watch the same movie, or connect rooms to play the same music through out the house using a playlist on his phone.
Nice video explanation I'm actually subscribed to you. I normally never subscribe to a lot of tech guys because I'm a tech guy myself. However, I'm more an audio/video guy.
I think one of the important factors that a lot of audio explanation online fails to explain it is that people need to have realistic expectations. Yes Atmos is great, if you have a full surround speaker setup. A TV with Atmos surround decoding will only simulate the experience in the same way that older tvs had 'Dolby digital 5.1' or labeled as 'surround'. This was before HDMI was around during component video era. You cannot get real surround sound from a two-speaker setup and you cannot get full Atmos experience from a sound bar, even if they have multiple speakers coming out of the front with one pointing at the ceiling because you're missing your back/side speakers plus the positioning and power comes into play. Atmos creates a bubble when it's positioned around you. Obviously, you'll hear things slightly different if somebody is going from a television, to a sound bar, because of the multiple speakers in the front and it being a different type of sound but a receiver with this full surround setup is the way to really get a full Atmos Experience. It's also good for sound bar decoding. Whenever I see audio and video being explained online very rarely does it get mentioned that the way to go was with a receiver and a surround setup. If you can't get that due to the size and limitation of the house/apartment then obviously stepped back down to a sound bar.
Online I see a lot of people pushing sound bars and people are purchasing them even the really expensive variety and then listen to a receiver with the surround sound setup and it's like night and day.
What do you recommend for just watching tv. My tv does have Earc but will a under $500 soundbars give me good sound? I don’t play games etc.
@@floydald For what you’re using it for I would definitely recommend a sound bar. Things like Atmos are normally included in either subscription paid movie streaming services like Apple TV+, Disney+ etc. like in the video said or UHD stations on TV like Comcast etc.
for regular TV watching you don’t wanna go overboard and buy a full-blown surroundsound system because not all the channels support it and it would be overkill. If you’re not into gaming, or separate movie theater watching like on streams, or 4K Blu-ray Disc. It makes no sense to go that route.
You can go the middle direction and go with the sound bar system. Just make sure that it has a subwoofer. I would normally go with Klipsch sound bar but I have a surroundsound system and not into sound bars cause I can’t really recommend one but if I had to choose one I would go with the Klipsch route because they make good products however not everybody likes their sound because their horn driven speakers and some people say they sound too bright to them depending on the ear. But yeah about 500 is the middle ground maybe even 700.
@@mountain.spider thanks
Excellent comment! I've been into Atmos from the beginning and I've gone from budget to mid-range to my current high-end audiophile grade 5.2.4 small living room setup (click the Red Dragon twice to view) so I've had my fair share of experience and I I would just like to say... your comment is pretty much banging on. 👍
@@totalplonker824 I saw your videos and liked them.. nice setup. I saw that you had your speakers pointing directly at you wall (front mounted) which is the way to go instead of reflective.
Reflective you need to have a specific height ceiling so that it can rain on you but sometimes it can spread its to thin. Vs direct, ceiling aimed at center is the way to go. I wish more would adopt that set up style. The funny thing is that some receiver manufacturers actually had that set up before Atmos was the thing, it was called heights channels. Aimed at expanding the sound stage. Now its properly being used.
Thanks for taking the time to inform people about Atmos, but maybe you can address my main concern with Dolby Atmos, it's the missing interaction between objects... I can fly an object around the room, but it' doesn't interact with its environment. An example is throwing a rock in the pond that generates ripples, but with Atmos there's no ripples interacting with other objects like the shore. In addition is all the additional hardware required, this normally results in cheap components like amps or speakers. can you address these concerns?
I have a Krell 5.1 system that sounds much better then any Atmos system I've reviewed, the big difference is Atmos will rely on moving objects from speaker to speaker, attempting to create a bubble of sound... the Krell on the other hand makes the speakers disappear completely, an example of this is the opening scene from Open Range, I'm sitting in the middle of a wheat field with rustling wheat and a thunder storm off in the distance, I'm in a bubble of sound because the speakers disappear. Check out the train wreck scene in Super 8, the train door is ripped off, hovers in the air, and lands in the middle of the room...
I do find it funny how people keep attempting to put the listener on the stage between band members, but that's now how live music sounds... you're at the back of the theater, or front center stage... but never standing in the middle of the stage.
The father of Atmos is Dolby Prologic 2zx..that has also 4x Upfiring speakers, CL, CC, CR, L,R, Side L, SideR, RearC, RearL,RearC ,
6 channels audio ( 5.1) and for the rest, metadata.
Prologic 2 : AAC 5.1 audio for MKV/ AVI movies is encoded in 2channels audio and metadata for the rest.
Thanks alot for your efforts Mr Jonah
Great to know few extra details about Atmos. Good one.
Dts neural x and auro are way better in my opinion. The upmixer in general are awesome
Great breakdown. Perhaps on a future video run demo / pro’s / con’s of sound bars that have upward fireing speakers with rears, versus a traditional system hooked up to a receiver which both run ATMOS. To my mind a sound bar would do this better as it has specific speakers to push sound up.
Great suggestion! I have a video like this planned for at some point this year, but not anytime soon.
A receiver does better with (preferably) discrete speakers in the ceiling
Personally, I found understanding audio objects crucial to comprehending how different Atmos is from traditional audio approaches. A sound engineer’s ability to assign coordinates in the 3D space during mixing rather than being restricted to conventional channels helped me understand how Atmos can scale from 2-channel headphones to dozens of independent speakers in a cinema installation. I’ve noticed that you use Ford v Ferrari in recent tests. It’s a great state of the art example. Also check out Roma on Netflix. It’s not as in your face as action films but in many ways the Atmos audio serves as an additional character in the story.
Interesting, I'll have to check it out! Thanks for the suggestion.
Yep but also remember a good system is needed to “evaluate” your room size, speaker distances, amount of speakers. Digital processing is needed to accurately map the coordinates
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Hi Jonah, Great video thanks for the details. I really enjoy your videos. I have a simple question ... My TV has an eARC port but the TV does not support Dolby Atmos or DTS X. So, if I connect this to a sound bar with Atmos can i get audio from TV, using streaming apps like netflix, prime etc, with Atmos effect... Hope you can clear this doubt. Thanks J
When I Load a album on Amazon Music on phone it say Atmos when I play a track it is very instrumentally Detailed but when I load the same Album on Amazon music on my Laptop it only says HD and its less Detailed. so I agree to your info.
I still feel that connection thru earc gives a better quality sound or atmos. If i connect apple tv 4k with the hdmi port of tv, and soundbar with tv thru hdmi earc, the sound is better : as compared to connecting apple tv 4k directly to " hdmi in" of soundbar and then "hdmi out" of soundbar to hdmi port of the tv. All cables used were belkin hdmi 2.1 cables. Sound bars were Samsung hw- Q950T and sony ht-st5000. Both gave same results. What are your thoughts?
So how does the “object” thing work when there aren’t that many speakers, such as when it’s just a sound bar?
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Does it make a difference in Audio & Video quality while playing a movie on an online streaming app installed in the TV and the same app on a media player like Apple TV, firestick etc.?? If yes, it it a noticeable difference? I mean is it worth spending extra money on a media player?
Thanks for the video information explaining the difference.
When I play tv inbuilt TH-cam app, my Sonos’s Arc plays “Dolby digital 2.0”!
What’s that format?
When I play 4K uhd content on Netflix, it plays “Dolby digital plus 5.1”
I hear Black Hawk Down is a great movie to experience in Dolby Atmos
I have a Apple Tv HD Lastest Version ,Samasing Series 7 2020 and Vizio Series M with Dolby Atmos .The only thing I would need to upgrade is to Apple TV 4k and supported HDMI's and thats all ?
Hello , I would like to ask one question. I have order Q950A Samsung soundbar and I will connected to my Samsung Qled Q70 2019 tv (does not has e-arc but it has arc HDMI). From what I understand at the best case scenario I will have compressed Dolby Atmos. But I am thinking if i will buy google cromcast or apple tv and connect the tv box first to the soundbar and then to the TV (passthrow hdmi on soundbar) will improve the Atmos experience? thank you a lot for the videos I will expect your opinion!!
the trick is separate the frecuency from front speakers, center and rear speakers, puting other speakers, in the same frecuency that where you want to put it on the room, i prefer 7,1 audio sistem
Thanks, Jonah, I love your videos and reviews. I have been a home theater enthusiast for more than 20 years and appreciate your efforts in explaining these things. My current situation would not allow me to enjoy a proper home-theater setup, so after few reviews in I bought an Apple TV and AirPods 3, and WOW I was amazed how head-tracking could give you a decent movie experience. Would love to a see your review on similar setup.
Hi Jonah, thank you for a very informative video on Dolby Atmos. I have a medium sized living room open concept to the kitchen and very limited to utilizing a lot of speakers. Will I lose a lot of immersive sound and affects if I go to a sound bar, wireless sub, and two wireless rear speaker if I buy a Dolby Atmos sound bar that is a 5.1.2 type as opposed to the 7.1.2? Thanks again. Gettin ready to drop the cash on one. All the best, Jorge
what kind of 4k DVD player do I need to play Dolby Atmos ?
Great presentation I now understand a little more But still have many Questions.
I finally figured learned how to place sounds to different Speakers of my Dolby 5.1 Sound Sound bar with DaVinci Resolve (FREE). I bought DR 17 STUDIO because it's supposed to be able to mix Dolby Atmos. I now have been told that one needs (besides expensive Equipment) some kind of License from Dolby. And much like TH-cam not even supporting Anything but Stereo UT doesn't even support 5.1/7.1Surround sound much less Dolby Atmos.
Question 1 What License?
Question 2, So Where can a Person UP LOAD their hard Work so others may hear their productions anyway?
This video was very helpful. I have a TV that only supports ARC and not eARC so I had to connect my xbox directly to my sound bar for the atmos. Now I just need to buy myself another TV hahaha.
Hey man. I have a Samsung q80r 75 inch tv. Have my 950a Samsung soundbar hooked up to EARC HDMI input. I recently Hooked my rtx 3090 pc to tv, I tried enabling Dolby ATMOS but cannot ??? I even have an extra HDMI from graphics card to soundbar. Am I missing something ? Any tips/help would help big time. Even when I download Dolby app it says it’s compatible but still cannot enable Dolby ATMOS
I’m amazed at what the present Dolby system can do to two channel content even though it’s not actual Atmos.
Thanks for a great episode.
As my Panasonic TH-55FZ950U TV only has ARC and optical, I assume it will not pass ATMOS through to an ATMOS soundbar or receiver. Wanting not to have to replace the TV, my best option seems to be Apple 4K connected to an ATMOS enabled receiver with passthrough to pass the video signal to the TV. Most soundbars do not have passthrough - correct?
I am thinking of getting a receiver like the Yamaha RXV6A, using my existing Magnat 5:1 speakers and adding at least one pair of height speakers. The Yamaha can use MusicCast for rears which may save visible wiring. Is there another choice you would suggest?
In truth, as we mainly watch drama, voice intelligibility is actually more important than a surround experience. We only have a small area with lounge against the back wall 8 ft and 10 inches away (2700 mm).
Any thoughts much appreciated.
Finally, why do you feel remote device like Apple TV 4K delivers best results?
Greetings from Brisbane.
Is Doughby the same as Doleby?
Great video thanks for the video you are the man you really know your stuff
Is there a way to look at the TV settings panel to see what it's actually decoding video and sound wise? I know all TV's are quite different but it seems to me that you should be able to view this in some way. I have a newer AppleTV 4K, a 3 year old 55" Samsung Q7FN 4K TV (QN55Q7FN) and Samsung HW-Q70R soundbar. It all seems to work but then again at times I''d like to see exactly what it's doing.
Thanks for your videos Jonah! I always learn from them.
Some soundbars are very upfront with the audio codec that it's using on the display or inside of the associated app. Most TVs have a display or audio button that will show some general information about the signal being received/sent. I've seen some include the audio codec, but most don't. It purely depends on the TV.
Very informative! Maybe u can explain what dtx is and how it compares and contrast with Dolby atmos?
Also an idea I have is to "blind sound test" your friends/family with your sound equipment. Have them sit and watch a movie/music and have them give thier thoughts and impressions on the sound.
Doing a video exactly like that to compare Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby TrueHD to see if the average person can actually tell the difference!
For DTS X, it’s a very similar concept to Dolby Atmos, except the information that’s available is extremely limited making it really difficult to make a cohesive video on it.
An unlocked consumer Dolby Atmos soundtrack (where objects are allowed to travel freely with 3D panning coordinates such as the new 4k Blu-ray of "Dune" 2021) can support a layout of up to 24.1.10. Consumer DTS: X is a fixed channel format in either standard 7.1.4 or IMAX versions with 7.1.5. If you have a particular processor or receiver that can handle more than 7.1.4/7.1.5 processing, then DTS: X Pro can upmix these limited tracks to 32 speakers using matrix logic steering techniques. It's not discrete audio information, however. DTS: X Pro is only in a limited number of products right now.
Hi, why new TVS don't have audio bananas out, I want to connect my old amplifier,
What about headphones?
Thank you for the explanation!
about Dolby Atmos Music, which service between Tidal, Amazon and Apple Music has (or is going to have) the most complete library that support this format? Thanks
I personally use Tidal. Not sure what the library on Amazon and Apple Music looks like though.
I have Dolby Atmos on my phone and I think it's the best thing moto G has done
So I'm awaiting delivery of my Lucid EV which has a 21 speaker system with Dolby Atmos. It currently has Tidal built in and will have Apple CarPlay in the near future. I have downloaded a large number of dolby atmos music from Apple Music onto my iphone. I'm wondering if I will still get good Dolby Atmos sound using my iphone via Bluetooth to connect to the car??
That's a really good question! So from what I've read on the topic, yes, you can get Dolby Atmos music through Bluetooth. There's definitely some compression going on that will make the music lossy, but regardless of the streaming platform you are using, it's likely going to be a lossy original source regardless.
Happy to see Lucid and some other luxury car manufacturers adding Dolby Atmos support. My Tesla Model Y should arrive sometime in July and I'm really hoping that Tesla does an update to add Dolby Atmos support for both Movies/TV and Music. Would be really cool to experience that, but we'll have to wait and see.
@@JonahMatthes Thank you for your response. So I'm still wondering if I will hear a difference if I "stream" Tidal or Apple Music through the car's built in system vs. listening to my Dolby Atmos "Playlist" that I've created on my iphone using Apple Music?
@@saratogalefty5337 Hmm. Possibly. If you have downloaded the music to your phone at the highest quality available, then there might be a slight quality difference. Also depends on the quality level that you are streaming at.
I got a jbl 9.1 hooked to my pc trough hdmi straight into my rtx 2080. Works fine but my gpu recognise my soundbar as a display. It can become a config nightmare sometimes. I'd not recommend
I have the sonos arc with an eArc port in my TV and I just wanna know which dolby atmos I have with this setup please? Dolby atmos, dolby atmos true HD ou MAT! And we want a video about dolby vision please Jonah🙏and keep up the good work
Streaming from Netflix, Disney+, etc gets you Dolby Digital Plus (lossy Atmos).
Watching Blu-rays or from a Plex Media server gets you Dolby TrueHD (lossless Atmos). Hope that makes sense!
Video on Dolby Vision sounds like a great idea! Need to focus and learn more about the different technologies for TVs this year. I’m very behind haha
@@JonahMatthes not sure to understand what’s plex media, is an apple tv correct, am I gonna have the lossless dolby atmos?? And awesome, thank you bro🙏
@@yacineaber2934 A Plex Media Server is a server that you can upload movie files to. Then you can use any device to stream those movies to your TV and audio system. Lots of videos on TH-cam about what Plex is. An Apple TV will not provide any lossless Dolby Atmos unless you are using a Plex Media server. Anything streamed from Netflix, Disney+, etc. will be Dolby TrueHD.
Thanks for the breakdown. I have eARC devices (AppleTV4K and receiver) but use a projector. Would that affect me being able to receive Atmos or uncompressed audio? Or do I need separate HDMI cables just for audio? Thanks!
HDMI connection especially if it’s HDMI 2.1 can handle audio and video going through one line that’s the whole point of using them instead of going to traditional yellow , blue, white and red green component cables or the classic yellow, white, and red from vcr era.
Your receiver should have an input and an output built in for hdmi. You connect all the components to the in hdmi. If you look at one of the connections it would say HDMI out, the purpose of this is to have everything connected directly to receiver and then the out portion would connect your television because you’re using a projector and you should have a projector box that has an HDMI in and it should be labeled arc as well.
So you would go your Apple TV plus box and to let’s say the Blu-ray player hdmi in, then get another HDMI cable that supports hdmi 2.1 as well to go out of your receiver and connect to your TV or protector box HDMI in. Labeled arc.
What’s happening here is that the audio and video of your Apple TV is pushing it into your receiver , decoding the sound and translate it to your speaker’s , then your receivers also pushing the video portion out to your projector and your projector, to the wall.
@@mountain.spider wow thanks for the comprehensive explanation. Much appreciated!
Great explanation!
Question : if you stream music off TH-cam, will the ceiling speakers work ? I have 5.2 surround sound. Haven’t done the ceiling speakers yet due to this question. Let’s face it, not every film has helicopters lol 😂
Hi many thanks for your great job , i have question i have tv and soundbar which completely support dolby atmos connected via e arc so can i play dolby atmos in youtube ??
TH-cam and TH-cam TV don't offer Dolby Atmos audio unfortunately. I believe TH-cam TV offers 5.1 channels which would be Dolby Digital audio. TH-cam is only stereo (2 channels).
@@JonahMatthes oh .. thanks man you just make it clear to me 👍
I have 300 Bose sound bar and a 7000 Samsung TV set I can’t get the Dolby atmos to work. On the tv I can’t turn the Dolby atoms to turn on on the tv. I assume that’s the sound bar is not Dolby atmos.
You are correct, this soundbar doesn’t support Dolby Atmos.
I guess I have to upgrade to the 900 Bose sound bar when I hit the lotto lol 😂
I am mesmerized by the hands.
Excellent!!!
It isn't for every one, because it require many speakers and spaces to set up. The whole speaker system is extremely expensive.
Dolby atmos used to mean something.
It's now been liquidated down and the logo put onto low end junk like bottom end soundbars.
95% percent of people have an atmos product in the home that doesn't replicate how atmos is supposed to sound at all.
You are correct. A lot of Atmos implementations on products aren’t majorly different from non-Atmos. With surround sound systems and soundbars, it typically makes a pretty substantial difference. But headphones and single speaker setups, it’s not game changing.
is there a reason why you keep saying "doby" instead of "dolby?"
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I can achieve a true 3D experience with only 2 main speakers on either side of the screen. The secret is to cancel the cross talk signal that arrives at the ears. For example, the left ear should only hear sound from the left speaker. And the right ear should only hear sound from the right speaker. The result is much more convincing than having extra speakers all around the room.
tu parle trop vite en anglais pour moi pas terrible
I can't help it, you look just like Sean Strickland if he went to school