Why these aircraft are MORE important than fighters.
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"NATO aircraft have completely multinational crews, so they can swear in several languages"
Peak comedy absolute genius.
to everyone else, the German dude sounded like he was swearing the WHOLE time,
....When he was giving a birthday toast of his own daughter.
They can say "incoming S-400!" in 20+ languages!
@@Citadin Translated to English it is "OH SH!T"
I don't understand why you are not getting as many views as you deserve. Your content for this segment is the best on TH-cam, in my opinion. The detail, data, and presentation is second to none. Keep doing what you're doing. The TH-cam algorithm can't ignore you forever.
Probably because he refuses to bring himself down by spreading anti-china propaganda like some channels out there. People don't like to listen to truth.
I agree with your comment
I do fear there is favoritism on TH-cam shown for people who just bash Russia and don't speak thr truth about them.
The end of this video where he states, Russia is learning and adapting. This is true and there is a push to suppress that information. Sucks, because this channel is amazing.
I guess majority of youtube viewers are ignorant or not here for such a serious and quality technical discussions and also let us not forget that algorithms are created by humans, so orientation based control is always possible by tweaking the algorithms.
@@ajey214 TH-cam, Facebook, Google etc. are all in cahoots with the government, and are told to push a certain narrative.
Well, TH-cam favours kitten videos.😂
And why? Because people watch them from beginning to end and then comment with something like "cuuuuute". The algorithm determines from that, that you are highly engaged and likely to watch further videos from this channel.
Longer, more differentiated videos (like these here) are more likely to be watched only half way. Also, commenting on them requires considerable thought, so people are less likely to do it.
In essence: High complexity content will always be consumed by fewer people, which means we have to somehow pay more for it to exist. So we need to become patreons or do some other form of support, to keep the channel alive.
US tooth-to-tail ratio is freaking huge and their transport and AWACS demonstrate their global reach.
A global colonial empire absolutely needs such a big logistics and survailance force to be able to protect its resources and territories on the other side of the globe.
@@Oktokologo to school
Like all domains
@jyy9624 no. He's right, whether you like it or not.
Thank you for this Video about aircraft who often are not in the spotlight.
@@pm3302 I haven't finished it yet, but it's good that here the importance of this type of aircraft and all what is coming out of this information collecting is explained
A simply superb entry level explainer on the non-sexy assets that make air power such a complex and powerful for of warfare. Cornerstone assets indeed.
Longer waits that result in such videos are well worth the wait.
I love the U-28A Draco presentation. My favourite because ... "free chocolate is available onboard" 👍
Fantastic overview of the difficulty coordinating assets on the modern battlefield maximizing effectiveness and minimize collateral damage. Nice to see you were able to get out in the field to add realism to the program.
Thank you for making another analytical (rather than propaganda) video.
Excellent analysis. Very informative. Thank you!
Great video! Interesting to hear very accurate comments coming from someone with a slightly different perspective. I worked at NATO about 10 years ago as a comm guy in the air command management arena. When discussing NATO it’s important to understand that NATO doesn’t have actual army, navy and Air Force units. NATO provides the infrastructure that allows different military units from member and cooperating states to fight together. The key to this is interoperability. When communicating together a message transmitted by one entity must be clearly understood by all others. This sounds pretty obvious but when one considers the vast scope of all actions and objects involved, it becomes a pretty massive software undertaking. At my level the key tool for this was the use of data links between all players using the NATO TADIL J message standard. To be successful all participants must not only incorporate these data links, they must also certify that their systems react in a clearly understood fashion, i.e., they must be interoperable.
Intelligent, comprehensive breakdown of the sensor and communication aspects of air power, and the hair is on freaking point!
I see quality and value are increasing.
Thx
PS: take a look at the 200 CHF banknote, frames of reference have never been more popular
Don’t know how you manage to provide so much content of such complexity in so little time but thanks for the great work. Please take care of yourself. 100K subs on the horizon.
Just after some 10 minutes (thouigh it is actualy 8 minutes (I think, rather 6 minutes)) there is a fundamental lesson in Information Technology (based upon an example from the militairy world) for exactly free!!
No money or investment needed.
Anyone who understands this is basicaly quite far in the world of "Why do we think we need computers" "or not". Thanks Millenium7.
Already commented but I just wanted to add this after finishing the video - man this was an absolute *BANGER* and I appreciate you and your work so much! You never fail to bring incredibly informative and great content, but you really brought it on this one especially...bravo sir 👏👏👏!!!
I do not understand many of the things you talked about yet I enjoy watching your videos. You try to make them simple yet provide as much detailed explanation as possible. I wish you all the best.
Fighting the algorithm, one comment at a time.
This video was right on top of my recommended videos this morning. I really enjoyed this one. Well worth the time to watch it.
I want to compliment you on finding a way to report on something that doe0sn't get demontized. You can't show the horror of war, but you can show how it's done. Bravo.
more graphs and doctrines pls. excellent vid.
Request = chip in! :-)
Awesome channel man, and great content. Thanks for the detail and consistent diligence 🙂
Certainly one of your best videos Millenium7!
Outstanding presentation as usual Sir!👏👏👏👍👍👍👍
Amazing content.
How would things change if you account for the difference in how Russians (to my knowledge, please correct me if I'm wrong) generally have the helicopters in the aerospace forces while USAF and PLAAF mostly have them in the army/ground forces?
I noticed on the PLAAF sheet that it listed 5 helicopters total, which might be true for PLAAF itself, but the PLAGF has hundreds of them. Similarly the USAF might only have a couple of hundred helicopters to support their planes, but the Army has almost 2 000 utility helicopters, hundreds of cargo helicopters and over a thousand attack & light recon helicopters.
This makes it seem like the Russians are the only ones with a lot of helicopters, when they're just organized differently in the US and China.
You will always have some incoherencies due to different organisations.
You do make a good point
@@Millennium7HistoryTech 100%, that much is unavoidable. I just think it's a good avenue for some further discussion. =)
@@jubuttib fortunately, there's no shortage of "those avenues" ... and we can expect to see a litany of explanations of all these nuances for years and years to come.
Hell, maybe when the agitprop dies down, he won't be expected to malign Russia and China so aggressively and can actually speak candidly about what those nasty Putsch NAZIS did to cause this "unprovoked invasion" that's TOTALLY different than the "provoked" invasions of Syria & Iraq, vs those totally "defensive campaigns" NATO engaged in over Yugoslavia and Libya ... Some of us get confused by such words and distinctions.
Thank you for keeping the content coming. I always enjoy your videos.
I love the exclamation delivery: The Earth is ..... Round!
Superb. A really well considered and presented podcast
Amazing video as always
Excellent video. Thanks!
Thank you! You’re a savior for students like me !!! Thank you it’s an honor to subscribe ❤
Thank you. I have said before and I say again, that: the quality of your explication and explanation is superb. Cheers from NZ.
P.S. In regard to that interesting acronym you mentioned, I once read about an armed unit reportedly operated by the U.S. Customs Service. It was called:
the New Orleans Special Helicopter Interdiction Team😁!
"Free chocolate is available onboard". That earned my like immediately lol.
This is the best class about modern war that I´ve had the chance of watching. Thanks a lot!
Comparisons between the different aeronautics made little sense because of internal organizational differences: russian aerospace forces comprise about all military helicopters but not a part of trainers and transports, USAF handle a lot more tankers because it's separated from their main allies by oceans and so on.
Thanks for the insight!
Bravo, another excellent video, I got sucked back into adopting taxonomies, agreeing sampling frequency and significance, Data v Information debates of the past, you are right, you could be doing videos for years on the roots to fruits of this.
love these unique videos that the algorythm hates. thx for uploading
All information that you call boring (for example about planning in this video) usually are most interesting for me 😅
Thank you!
Great analysis, thanks.
Extremely interresting stuff. Thank you.
Ya know; We have missed your insight...Nice Breakdown! Stay Healthy!
Thank you for another great vid Sir !
An Excellent analysis! 👍🏽👍🏽
That big round thing on top looks pretty easy to spot
By what
The U.S. Navy and Marine Corps have many combat aircraft, but not as large a proportion of transports as the USAF. The U.S. Army has a lot of attack helicopters but mostly relies on the USAF for transporting stuff and troops. If we were counting all the combat and non-lethal aircraft of the entire U.S. military, there'd be a greater percentage of actual combat aircraft.
Interesting, something to consider
Obviously the targets must have a quality factor to adjudicate the need for attention. Thanks for your knowledge.
Thank you, and I am very happy, because in the Sci fi universe I made the real magic of fighting in 25th century is not the Variable Muzzle Velocity weapons, it is not the Adaptive Active Camouflage, it is not the moderately capable Integrated Defensive Lifesupport Medicare Shell, or their Micro Singularity Projection Kinetic Barrier... the real magic in fact is the system called DCIIFS, Distributed Combat Information Integration and Fusion System ( they call it Deceives to have a better ring tho) it's basically an AI mini awacs onboard each trooper that sifts through all the information gathered by onboard sensors ( including the trooper, via biometrics and feedback familiarisation) then reforms them to an easily usable UI while also works as tiles with tactically relevant nodes in its proximity for exchange and process of collectively gathered data, communications could take many forms from tight beams to any usable radio modulation based on the topology and EW environment, and the local network also works in tangent to decide what information is relevant for the higher assets to be broadcasted, while integrating the information it is receiving from them to the picture it is providing for the troops under its charge...
That's what basically makes my human space commandos unstoppable... well until they come across another force of peer capability and things start to get dicy but... drama is name of the game right...
This video proved me I wasn't far off the actual idea... dear sensei, you just build me a lot of confidence, thank you...
Dude did you use Chat GPT ? That was a text full comment 😂 👍💪
The lack of tankers for the PLAAF and VVS is even more striking. Shows their lack of reach in addition to their lack of blue water navies. The US is also boosted by their Euro allies having a huge number of AWACS/ISR aircraft.
As always, great job chief.
The rigid 'stay in your lane' style soviet taskings seem overly precise, but when you look at the difficulty they are still having with IFF it makes a lot of sense. Operating interceptors in the same area as ground based air defences would likely be distracting for them at best. Something as simple as all interceptors sticking at a precise specific altitude can make an intruder stand out to a radar operator, and SAM operators having standing permission to fire on any target in their sector without having to go through channels is important when a spy plane may be flying at Mach 3.
Soviet air doctrine was always quite defensive, and any confusion benefits intruders. The aircraft were regarded almost as missile first stages with a bus driver. While it looked clunky, I am not convinced it was wrong for their purposes. If anything, Ukraine has demonstrated that air defence can hold off a significantly stronger air force.
Great content
Great work🎉. The algorithm is leaning towards short ,
Excellent information. Thanks.
Thanks!
Thank you!
Love the inflatable battle rattle. 😆
Timestamps would be nice.
Thank you for this video, as an aerosexual I like my planes fast, slow, small, and large I don't discriminate. 😏
1) Thank you for the video
2) Thanks for clarifying the empty coffee cup in your videos
3) Really interesting analysis about the support aircraft (ex. AWACS)
4) Is artificial intelligence the answer to the increasing volume and complexity of raw data and possibly the battlefield decision maker ?
5) Do you see in the foreseeable future a drone AWACS (large size like the Beriev A-50, Boeing 737 AEW&C, Boeing E-3 Sentry) ? A possible evolution of the RQ-4 Global Hawk perhaps ?
Many tasks on AWACS require personnel. Although I'm sure drones may be able to replace in some form soon.
Great content, as per usual. I'd love to hear your take on Saab's Globaleye.
I see you got my old D-Net phone from the 90's
grazie Augusto
I really like your videos; Merci!
The best is back
Great video ! Bravissimo
Let my algorithm be the rocks and the trees and the birds of the sky!
Excellent as ever, thanks. Maybe a video on spoofing, hacking, deception, etc. Also, if possible, some investigation into how non-standard information into targeting.
"The earth is round", at that point I just couldn't help it.😄
Even the dude making coffee is contributing to the fight.
If gets even worse when you start looking at how many are operational and how many are waiting on repairs.
Same is true for the navy. Only about 1/3 of our fleet is at sea at any given point in time. That's less than 100 ships. They are mostly at port.
One would think the Biden admin would have made the infrastructure problems for the navy a priority but I was sadly mistaken. We ceratinly need to fix the massive readiness issuess which requires more drydocks, maintainence facilities, etc.
America is a war monger, it doesn't need to fix this at all
Would love to see you do a video of the Avro Arrow
Talking about this legendary Canadian aircraft, what it was probably capable of and debunking many of the myths surrounding it
W❤️W! That’s Incredibly Awesome! 🤗❤️✨
Hair looks great!
Guss! Super content!
i thought someone will finally talk about refueller and transport aircraft or even the innovation/transition in recent years for trainers to become light recon/strike aircraft... not to say warfare support aircraft are not important, but an airforce isn't just about warfare. even for these warfare support aircraft, the bulk of their work is peacetime related.
As a former U-28 mechanic, I can confirm free chocolate is onboard.
Surely the U-28A has Dracolate on board?
Sigint deep dive please!
Not correct! The first combat airplane to have full network centric warfare capability and could seamlessly share data and fire missiles with other airplanes was Ja 37 Viggen. In defence sevice since 1980. It had a stealthy, multipurpose, broadband, data link, glass cockpit and central computer.
"few dedicated trainers"
It needs to be noted that this is at least in part due to Russia not finding a replacement trainer aircraft they were completely happy with, so they've been dragging out the purchase of new trainers.
IIRC, they're supposed to have at least another 150 trainers(over twice that at least according to one source). It doesn't make a huge difference, but still worth mentioning.
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USA has more support aircraft primarily because it is an empire. End of story. Russia and China does not NEED a lot of what USA uses those aircraft for and use either ground units, or regular aircraft datalinked for some other functions.
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Unstructured data points are still data points. The information does not magically become a datapoint just because you figure out how to make it properly structured.
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"to a lesser extent"
No, Russia does it differently. As the conflict in Ukraine has shown, Russia almost certainly does it MORE than USA does it.
But via different channels.
Andrei Martyanov has spoken a fair amount on the subject and at least about this i see no reason to not agree, at least mostly, with him.
Especially after that Nato general a few months ago commented that Russia had shown the ability to have a faster "killchain" than Nato ever even considered physically possible.
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"Airbase 1521"
Paper skies channel did a good video on this about 9 months ago, named "What Was The Soviet Approach to Fighter Pilot Training".
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"no clear picture"
Russian network centric warfare is, based on what have been seen in Ukraine, clearly superior to Nato.
The Kherson offensive was completely based on the idea that it was inferior, that the 55 thousand attackers were just going to overwhelm the 5 thousand Russians because they were not going to be able to handle large amounts of attackers at once.
A week later, and with a killratio of posibly above 100 to 1 in Russian favor, with as a Ukrainian expressed it, not a single soldier in the attacking force left uninjured, CIAs brilliant idea was proven to be worse than garbage. Not only did the Russian forces achieve better networked warfare than any Nato unit ever had been known to, they right out outclassed every known Nato ability to en embarassing degree.
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"interoperability"
Uh, unlikely? They've shown that they have drastically BETTER in most cases!
Worse, the Ukraine reservists forces relying on their old SOVIET training worked BETTER than those trained by Nato.
That should tell you something.
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"transition to a market economy"
Yeah right. You mean when USA tried to murder the Russian economy. As has been attested by multiple people that were there at the time, most openly, Jeffrey Sachs. Sending in "advisors" that specifically has the mission to do everything they can to DESTROY, that alone is just pure evil.
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"came back to bite the Russians"
No, that's you not looking at things objectively.
Or, as Douglas Mcgregor commented about it, if Iraq had had the Ukraine airdefenses, the US airforce would have been wiped out.
Russia has the capability of SEAD, what you don't seem to understand is just the SCALE of the Ukraine airdefences.
Ukraine started the war not only with similar or maybe even greater numbers of airdefences as Russia did(comparatively to total force size), but on top of that, they ALSO had had at least 3000 Stinger missiles delivered BEFORE the start of 2022.
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"friendly fire losses"
And have you verified those claims? Because we heard LOTS and LOTS about that in regards to ground forces as well. How epic incompetence caused Russian forces to have no clue about anything and repeatedly shooting at each other.
Which was pure BS propaganda. Which the Kherson defense VERY BLATANTLY showed later on.
Along with hugely exaggerated claims about Russian losses also for aircraft.
In reality, their losses have NOT been huge, and i'm yet to find any RELIABLE claims about largescale friendly fire incidents.
I have in fact not been able to verify even a single such incident.
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"block of flats"
Except RUSSIA didn't attack that, if you refer to the first BIG PROPAGANDA video. That was a Ukraine S-300. Something that has become a very common occurence, because Russia apparently has pretty damn good EW.
And no, Russia did NOT hit civillian structures unintentionally. Do look up the manual that Ukraine military put out in March 2022, the manual about how to use civillians as human shields.
Look up reports from 3rd party reports about how Ukraine military made it standard procedure to exploit Russian unwillingness to cause civillian casualties.
Essentially ALL civillian targets attacked by Russia, with a rare few exceptions, were no longer in any way shape or form civillian. And they nearly always did not strike them until there were no civillians left in the buildings or locations.
As several neutral analysts commented last year, the Russian warfare have possibly been the most humanitarian warfare ever waged.
They have literally CHOSEN to take casualties rather than cause collateral damage against civillians.
The latest estimate is that Ukraine has caused roughly 99% of all civillian casualties during the war.
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"too dangerous"
Actually, the PRIMARY reason they considered it too dangerous was because pilots were repeatedly tortured to death by Ukraine nassiz. Anyone who thinks this is exaggeration, look it up online, Ukraine PROUDLY put videos of this online.
And when that just pissed Russians off, the Ukraine parliament actually outright made a law prohibiting posting of such videos. Not saying anything about the warcrimes itself, oh no, they didn't mind that. Just making it illegal to put such videos online where they were bad PR.
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"always at least one step behind"
Yeah sure, you betcha! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
That, has VERY obviously been shown to be a faerytale by now.
Just like the "technological superiority of Nato" was in the 80s. Which we later found out was at best parity and too often plain outright inferiority.
This comment would have been much better as a response video. It's hard to remember an entire 40 minute video while reading a comment.
You're pronouncing nonsense, Vatnik.
Но-но-но, говоришь не стреляем по гражданским целям, а неделю назад ракета прилетела в кафе с несколькими десятками бывшими офицерами армии сша, одетыми в форму🤣🤣🤣
Awsome video as always!!! Still i would love to see a video about all the data that is collected by nato AWACS in the ukraine conflict. And what type of data is probably provided to ukraine.
There was a leak with one of the reports being given to the Ukrainians, but i am not using it.
That's disgusting! Where? 😂😂😂😂
Love the video...dislike the title 😏🤣 Also I think the AWACS are sexy in their own right...really hope you'll do a spectrum/EW video soon!! But this definitely appeased my appetite for now!! Lol
I propose a new class of aircraft called fighter-bomber-vip transport-tanker
The Party Bus.
Drones can extend line-of-sight horizon.
Speaking of non combat aircraft have you don a video on tankers yet?
I heard that some US Military aircraft can use their Radars & Sensor to send and receive normal cell WIFI TV other civilian frequencies to deliver information / propaganda to large areas.
Does Otis prefer tea or coffee?
Great topic and presentation.
And F35’s and new “super raptors” humm that looks like a TicTac 😂
i was sold on the free chocolate
There's another workstation aboard AWACS and several similar aircraft in the US. 2 seats worth on AWACS itself.
It's behind an opaque tarp at US airshows, when they open it up to touring through the plane.
Behind the tarp though, is a very fancy cotton candy maker. They don't want other countries to know what flavor of cotton candy is available, so nobody will get jealous.
Unfortunately, the subject matter of the video, and any discussions based on it, are significantly affected by the cotton candy variable.
Oh, also, the vast majority of helicopters in the US are operated by the Army or Navy, and aren't under the USAF. The US is actually more into helicopters than Russia.
1/4-1/2 in friendly fire - that's a huge number... tho that mostly for the 1st few months and affected helicopters and SU-24/5 the most ( both have them).
Afaik I know they shot only 1 SU-34 in friendly fire.
hmmm... for usa i think navy would need to be taken into consideration too. i suspect less transports and more helicopters there
To note that the russian IADS has a huge role and is deeply integrated in their network
The IADS could also gather intel/info and might participate to decisions
Decentralize shooting missions were noted in Ukraine where a BUK was fired according to a TOR guidance system
I think that their IADS detection system is so powerful that they use it like AWACS with a far less expensive cost and in a much secured way
Ground based radars can't provide much coverage against low flying targets as they are limited by the radar horizon. AWACS, on the other hand, by flying thousands of meters above the surface, can detect and track low flying objects from hundreds of kilometers.
More often than not, cheaper is not better.
not very good at shooting down storm shadows though, which is actually their primary task
@@BrunoViniciusCampestrini не суди по патриотам
@@jukeseyable source?
@@愛を込めてロシアから 0 intercepts as evidenced by the lack of reports by Tass. russias own state broadcaster
USN
Combat 33.91 592
Helicopter 38.2 667
Tanker 0
Trainers 3.21 56
Transport 0.06 1
AWACS/C3 24.63 430
1746
It'll be great when Rapid Dragon is deployed, turning cargo aircraft into cruise missile carriers!
I love that Rapid Dragon sounds like a fiendish Chinese weapon.
Great video. I have a question, from where did you get that phrase that goes "in the future the airforce and navy will share only one plane" about the cost of aircraft
Augustines law. Google it
So, when you say it is a mess, are you talking about Massive Electronic Systems Sources? Just clarifying here lol.🤯
The most powerful air force is the USAF and they're good. Very good. The 2nd is the USN. While the latter has only been refining it's capabilities for 100 years, that's roughly 85 years more than any other adversary the USA might face. That's one reason Americans sleep well at night. When China, Russia or NorthCrapistan have the equivalent of TEN carrier battle groups, maybe I'll start wondering if the front door is locked. Until then 😴😴😴😴
Ever heard of batle ships of WW1 and WW2?
Those old superexpensive white elephants that whit introduction of aitcraftcariers when obsolete wery fast, since one aircraft bomb was enought to destroy them.
Look what heapend whit japanese imperial navy at the end of WW2.
Aircraft cariers are obsolete since 1970s, they just didnt come in oposition to enemy whit real missile technology.
Both China and Russia haw such missiles in large numbers...
Thanks for excellent content. As always, I would say. I'm glad I found your channel some years ago. If I can make a wish, it would be nice with a video on the international Military Industrial Complex. Before the 24:th of February 2022 I saw the storm coming, and loaded up on stocks in Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, SAAB Aerospace, BAE Systems, Dassault Aviation, Leonardo, Rolls Royce. Since then I've added Raytheon and Airbus to my portfolio. With the worlds second largest weapons exporter likely going out of business, there must be someone to pick up the slack. I am particularly curious where the -stan's will get thear weapons from (Afghanistan, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan). Will they lean towards west and go for NATO-weapons, or lean towards China?
I hope you didn't get Rheinmetal
@@Millennium7HistoryTech I didn't. Only because when I heard of them, their stock price had already risen 300%. I was too late.