oh bhai! kya toh conversation sun ne ko mili. Sahi mein Hats Off to Mumbai Local Train Systems. Pune ho, Bangaluru ho ya phir Delhi ho....kisi city mein aisa dam nhi. public transport ki jo suvidha Mumbai mein hai wo kisi aur jagah par nhi. aur jis tarah se yaha ki locals evolve hui hai wo kaabil-e-taareef hai. Sahi me Suburban Railway Network hamari Life Line hai. Koi mel nhi Local Tain ki services ka. Aur sirji ne bahut achhi tarah se sab baaten saamne rakhi. aise podcast ke liye Thank You.🙏🙏🙏
मुंबई मध्ये लोकल कसे मिळतात नवीन गाडी - पहिले मिळते पश्चिम आणि मध्य रेल्वे मुख्य मार्गांवर मध्य रेल्वे (कळवा आणि कुर्ला कारशेड ) मग मिळते तीच गाडी 8/10 वर्षांनी हार्बर लाईन ला. (सानपाडा कारशेड) काही नशीबवान गाड्या पुणे लोणावळा मार्गांवर जातात. पण maintainance साठी कळवा कारशेड लाच येतात मग अजून 3-4 वर्षांनी ट्रान्स हार्बर. मग अजून 1-2 वर्षांनी आता लेटेस्ट सुरु झालेल्या उरण ते बेलापूर / नेरुळ लाईन वर मग अगदी भंगार झाली तरीपण हार्बर आणि ट्रान्स हार्बर मार्गांवर्ती असतातच. त्या वर्षानुवर्षे स्क्रॅप होतच नाहीत 😢
Trans harbour is another story. It is neither part of MRVC plan or CIDCO original agreement. This line was originally made at the cost of CIDCO for freight traffic around 1983. When CIDCO requested for upgrading it to Suburban standards, Railways demanded entire capital cost including the trains. Agreement is silent about who will pay for the replacement of trains and that is one of the reasons that upgradation of trains on trans harbour is last priority.
You can say whatever you can but Mumbai needs a robust Metro system. The Mumbai Local is the backbone of the city, no doubt about that, but it is also the most disgusting and pathetic way to travel anywhere in the world during peak hours. When the railway employees say that the locals don't make them money, they discount the fact that the city has progressed so much because of locals.
Being born & brought up in Bombay & my father also worked in railways i am familiar with many of these matters but this explanation is very knowledgeable hat's off to this person every word is appreciated.Thank you.
Every year more than 1000 passengers die of accident due to overcrowding or illegal track crossing in mumbai sub urban. Stop glorifying it as mumbai culture. It needs a major overhaul. People's lives are more important than 20 paisa per km ride. And you have the audacity to criticize metro rail. Have some shame.
Agreed on safety point but track crossing is it railways fault we as citizens should also take initiative just for that few minutes of urgency we risk our life😢
1. He didn't criticize metro rail, he simply stated the fact. Metros can never match the capacity what suburban rail can provide. That's a basic fact, worldwide applicable. You cannot compare orange with apple and vice-versa. 2. That's true overcrowding in the coaches is the major factor of fatal accidents, but honestly, as stated running trains any closer or longer is not viable. The overhaul is required for the BEST services and complementing Metro services. Absence of multiple East-West public transit is a major factor of overloading on the lines until Andheri or Dadar. 3. Fatalities due to illegal track crossing cannot be fault of railways, when the danger & risks involved in doing so is very clear to everyone. 4. In my opinion, what at least WR can experiment is with additional super fast services between the 2 ends during peak with only 3 (alternative intermediate) stops like in evenings with every 15 mins freq: a. Churchgate - Dadar - Andheri - Mira rd - Virar b. Churchgate - Dadar - Bandra - Dahisar - Virar c. Churchgate - Dadar - Borivali - Bhayandar -Virar The above options are in addition to the existing Fast services
Kuch BIMARU state h unki population Kam ho jaye. Vaha ke Naukari Kaam mil jaye to City ka crowd Kam hoga. Abhi bhi UP Bihar me kitna baccha paida ho raha hai. 30 Crore ke upar hai ye two states ki.
@@RitwickChatterjee14 first ask why WR is running so many Churchgate - Goregaon/Borivali trains and very less trains beyond Borivali and almost no trains for Dahanu. And also ask why fast train not directly going to Churchgate after Mumbai Central.
At 24:50, shows the mentality of typical railway babus who is seating in AC Cabins & functioning the railway operations. Bureaucracy should give some dignity to people travelling in Local Trains.
Navi Mumbai plan was made in 1942, considering the population influx in Mumbai city, to have a satellite city to manage the population. In 1964, State Government created a independent body called CIDCO. Actual ground work started in 1971, by development of Vashi - Sector - 1, construction of creek bridge in between Vashi - Mumbai. First residence were employees of BARC. All mostly Government officials. Parallelly CIDCO started developing other nodes too till Panvel
Travelling from Virar to Church gate takes the train 1hr17mins for 60-70km (roughly the track length, not aerial distance!) journey. It takes a fast suburban train from Watford Junction to London Euston (approx. 30 km) 21 mins. Yes, Metro options in London take 1 hr with about 13-15 stops just like the Mumbai local route. Then Mumbai Local has it beat on speed but considering population density Mumbai needs to have a fast train that can also do Virar to Churchgate in 30 mins! Something an brand new RRTS could do. The bullet train could do that in 12 minutes. (Although, it will only go to BKC and not Churchgate or CSMT at the moment).
At the *_very minimum the doors of the local should be automatic closing!_* This should be a *basic safety* requirement! We should *NOT* have people hanging out of the trains in 2024! I personally also think that *air conditioning is a human right...* especially in a climate like Mumbai and most of India!
@@shiva9575 Why should apparent "convenience" be held above the safety of human life?! Also, convenient does NOT mean efficient. The speed cannot be increased if the doors do not close.
90% of the mill workers were from Maharashtra. 60% of them were from Konkan and rest were from Nashik, Pune and western Maharashtra.North Indians influx started in Mumbai from during 1960's and that to because of depiction of Mumbai in Hindi movies. After Shivasena's governmetn free housing for zuggi owners gave boost to this influx.
Valid questions asked ....Very well narrated by respected guest.....one of the best interviews I have seen on Mumbai Suburban rail network. Thank you!!
he has so much of knowledge and no doubt that mumbai local is excellent but I want him to take a positive stand on metro because thats are well safe and well equipped with ac so transportation is very good
Bahut hi mazedar podcast. Purani history suburban rail ki, kya kya development hue, operational insights sun ne ko mile. Sir ki bahut indrpth knowledge hai Mumbai ki lifeline transport system ki. Anand aa gya!
Got one clear understanding from Sir's interview is that until we have govt running railways it will always be ram bharose except for trains like Vande Bharat & Rajdhani as they have Babus blessings. Railway is purely meant for socialist purposes. As he said IR has no interest in running suburban trains as they are heavily loss making and IR officials are reactive instead of being proactive given the job security
Bhai do 1 more session how local train manage 3 min gap i mean signalling kaise hota hai. 3 min means a train is there behind on same track and perhaps a train ahead. How they manage gap and running at 45-50kmphi need to understand.
Harbour line not getting the respect it deserves. 1. All the old trains from central and western line gets dumped to harbour line. 2. No fast train or express trains in harbour. 3. Unnesserily many trains are going to Bandra/Goregaon from Vadala leaving very less trains for Panvel. 4. Navi Mumbai region of harbour line is much better than Thane Kalyan region of central line and also much better than Borivali Virar region of Western line but still harbour line is given lesat preference. 5. So less trains from Thane to Uran in harbour line. 6. Harbour line should be extended beyond Panvel (to Lonavala and Mangaon). 7. Express trains going towards Pune should be diverted at harbour line (CSMT - Panvel - Karjat - Lonavala - Pune) as the distance is less than ongoing route (CSMT - Kalyan - Karjat - Lonavala - Pune) and also this new route will connect Mumbai, Navi Mumbai, Panvel, Karjat, Lonavala and Pune in a much better way than the ongoing route. 8. Express trains going through Konkan region should also be sent via harbour line. 9. The elevated stations between Sandhurst Road and Cotton Green should be converted to normal level. 10. Harbour line needs to have more platforms at CSMT currently it's having only 2 platforms because of which all harbour trains are stopping between Masjid and CST for platform clearance. I hope CR makes the above mentioned changes as quickly as possible ❤❤
Most of your demands are logical and justified but there is no one to take it forward. CIDCO having sold most of the properties is not interested in infrastructure development anymore.
Your suggestions are just sounding like Mumbai in a wonderland when you speak about making Sandhurst Road and Cotton Green stations at ground level. That was mainly done due to already having existing live lines running below and many important roads running below. Making it at ground level is next to impossible and will result in loss of an important heritage. Secondly you spoke about having more trains towards Panvel, while that already exists my dear friend. I stay in Goregaon and to travel from VT makes me wait for almost 25 to 30 minutes for the next train to arrive. While you have a train going towards Panvel very frequently from VT and Vadala Road stations. Trains towards the Western side are clearly not “unnecessary” as we need more east west connectivity in Mumbai
Also, you can not increase the platform on the Harbor line from CST to Kurla to Mankhurd, I guess, due to space constraints, so there is no question of express train running on Harbor.
@@sandeep1194ra exactly you can never run express trains on Harbour line it should only be for suburban for maintaining punctuality of the locals and frequency can only be increased by upgrading the signaling system to the latest technology (CBTC)
@saamirsyed4261 yaa that's what if you need to make additional lines till CST either you need to make elevated line or you need to clear slums on one of the sides and looking at current situation clearing slums also cannot create additional lines as main road is very close to these lines so overall there is no viable option for making additional lines unless gov comes with very strict laws and which is also not possible due very unstable form of our government at present. Edit: also elevated line can come from mankhurd till wadala or so but not beyond till CST where will it go as CST is one of the UNESCO WHS so you cannot change the structure of it if at all you need then lots of paper work and clerance needs to be done. In short, Harbour cannot extend beyond present 2 lines atleast till wadala from CST
Very informative podcast and really enjoyed Mr Jain’s jovial demeanour. Also thank him for some fantastic insights into the working of city’s lifeline and grateful for his service to it. However, I am disappointed that the host didn’t touch the topic of safety passengers traveling on locals. With approx 300 or more deaths due to accidents every year, it is imperative that passenger safety is addressed as the utmost priority. There is no harm in sacrificing frequency or average speed if locals can be made safer for its passengers. People dying falling off trains is pathetic and downright callous of authorities in this age.
Brings up a lot of good points but should also have reflected on how some networks like Tokyo are vastly superior in terms of number of people carried, safety and speed. Tokyo suburban rail (not considering the metro / subway) is probably the best in the world, and we can do well to learn from them.
This conversation could have been much enriching...there are lot of safety issues with local trains.. cleanliness is big issue..locals are not getting modernized on time...but interviewer seems to be interested only is scoring positive points..
If you want to understand what is wrong with Mumbai Suburban and city planning, just look at the statement of this expert on Virar being the next important station after Borivali on the Mumbai western line. The population density between Borivali and Virar is much higher compared to that between Andheri and Borivali but this area simply does not get the required attention.
55:00 its not like metro and railway has to compete End user will only choose one over the other because of convenience, be it for a college going student or a young graduate going to Andheri / Saki Naka for his job or a fisherman travelling to Dadar Metro lines are an alternative
One more thing that sucks is that amount of automated booking counters These are not well marked, often low in number Usually put in one part of the station Instead more of these machines should be put on stations and put near every entry exit point, even parking spaces
Invite people like ashwini bhide MD of MMRCL when talking about mumbai because IR babaus never want to improve services or introduce any changes AC locals are so popular nowdays they are filled but still IR is in denial to improve AC service and resuce fare
Suburban railway system is very good, but speed over safety is a priority. Many people do still lost their life during commuting which is unacceptable in 2024.
Sir forgot to add - 1. Group of 4 uncles would play rummy by using briefcase as a table. Settle the account at the end of month. 2. Girls sell various kind of ornaments, accessories. A hot humid local train journey made enjoyable but adding value by these ways. Not to forget, maximum fights happen ladies compartment only. Haha Irony is ladies prefer travelling in gents compartment. Instead of ladies. This is another feminine mystery.
26:00 Bro even Mumbai has similar levels of pollution as Delhi We are just lucky to have the sea by our side Railway is very lethargic and bureaucratic in nature, bitches couldn't even start proper rail services to Uran in like 15years after the new airport was conceived.
Har Sunday mega block lene ke baad bhi central railway ki locals kyon time pe nahi chalti? Hum apne aap ko top 5 countries ke ginte gai. To hum chodke baki 4 countries me bhi aise hi har Sunday me mega block liya jaata hai? Un countries me train late nahi chalti, par hmare yaha locals 15 to 30 min late chalti hai. 15 saal pahale central locals 5-6 min ke gap se chalti thi Aaj bhi voh 5 min ke gap se chalti hei. Ye time 3 min Tak kya Kam nahi ho sakta hai. Jab kuch bhi kahi problem hota hai, to train cancel kar di jaati hai, ye nahi hota ki jaha Tak jakar vapas aa sakti hai vaha to train chalani chahiye?
26:46 48 kmph is nothing to be proud off! 26:54 & 1:02:20 I don't think these claims for Metro and suburban speed is correct. The average speed of Metro is 80 kmph worldwide. However, I have personally noticed that local trains and at least some Tier 2 Metros in India run much slower than e.g. London or Paris. If we talk of new Suburban rail/Airport Express/RRTS then we can reach 160 kmph.
Metro runs every 3 minutes. It has stops every 1 km. You cannot compare fast Local that doesn’t stop at most stations with metro that stops every km. Metro is more convenient than Local any day.
Politics too plays a big hand in working of Railways. Due to political interference, a simple 4 km track between Matunga and Khar has not been completed. if it has been done, a lot of outstation trains could have been diverted onto the 5 th line, leaving more slots open on the 3rd and 4th fast track to run more fast train on the Mumbai western railway. the 5th and 6th line will make no vital difference until the 5 th line is made complete from Borivali to Mumbai central. the missing 4 km would change it immensely.
if the 5th line on western railway was made complete between Borivali and Mumbai central, then more fast trains can be run on fast tracks by diverting outstation trains on to 5th track. also additional fast local trains can be run on the 5th track as and when required. in addition, if this 5th line is extended till Naigaon and then an extension made to join the Vasai-Diva line, then a lot of trains from Mumbai central can be run towards inner cities and towns of Maharashtra. it would relieve the pressure on central railways.
I mean borivali -virar 5th and 6th line is also important project that will sideline outstation trains from fast line nd will be of relief to virar vasai population... @@prasannask8320
Mumbai is having about 437 sq.km. area and a population about 12.5 million and floating population of about 5 million. मुंबई लोकल में हर दिन बाहर से आनेवाले और अंदर रहने वाले लोग बहोत ज्यादा है। नई जगह पे सब इंडस्ट्री होनी चाहिए।
oh bhai! kya toh conversation sun ne ko mili. Sahi mein Hats Off to Mumbai Local Train Systems. Pune ho, Bangaluru ho ya phir Delhi ho....kisi city mein aisa dam nhi. public transport ki jo suvidha Mumbai mein hai wo kisi aur jagah par nhi. aur jis tarah se yaha ki locals evolve hui hai wo kaabil-e-taareef hai. Sahi me Suburban Railway Network hamari Life Line hai. Koi mel nhi Local Tain ki services ka. Aur sirji ne bahut achhi tarah se sab baaten saamne rakhi. aise podcast ke liye Thank You.🙏🙏🙏
I'm born and brought up 70 years ago but this is the first doco fully about Bombay local transit. Thanks for giving me an insight to local trains.
Yeee😂 ..was epic of uncle..yeee😂
Same bro 😂
Good observation 😂
मुंबई मध्ये लोकल कसे मिळतात
नवीन गाडी - पहिले मिळते पश्चिम आणि मध्य रेल्वे मुख्य मार्गांवर
मध्य रेल्वे (कळवा आणि कुर्ला कारशेड )
मग मिळते तीच गाडी 8/10 वर्षांनी हार्बर लाईन ला. (सानपाडा कारशेड)
काही नशीबवान गाड्या पुणे लोणावळा मार्गांवर जातात. पण maintainance साठी कळवा कारशेड लाच येतात
मग अजून 3-4 वर्षांनी ट्रान्स हार्बर.
मग अजून 1-2 वर्षांनी आता लेटेस्ट सुरु झालेल्या उरण ते बेलापूर / नेरुळ लाईन वर
मग अगदी भंगार झाली तरीपण हार्बर आणि ट्रान्स हार्बर मार्गांवर्ती असतातच. त्या वर्षानुवर्षे स्क्रॅप होतच नाहीत
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Trans harbour is another story. It is neither part of MRVC plan or CIDCO original agreement. This line was originally made at the cost of CIDCO for freight traffic around 1983. When CIDCO requested for upgrading it to Suburban standards, Railways demanded entire capital cost including the trains. Agreement is silent about who will pay for the replacement of trains and that is one of the reasons that upgradation of trains on trans harbour is last priority.
Harbour line and Trans harbour line locals get interchanged at Panvel. eg a train come from CSMT to Panvel and from Panvel the train goes to Thane.
@@subodhjain6809 you mean that entire line running from Thane to Nerul was constructed for freight trains??
Mumbait scrap zalelya mag Kolkatyala la jaatat.
@@shiva9575yes
Evolution of Suburban Services from 1853 to 2024 explained like never before by Sir ❤
You will get all the details on Wikipedia
You didn't discuss why AC local is not properly implemented in Mumbai?
Audience hi nahi chahti
Expensive h isliye
@@deadshot6135 pehle 75 minimum fare thi ab 35 ho gayi hai aage Chalke 10 se fare shuru honge
@@jaybheda96 free service nhi hai naa, 10 rupees is still expensive for charsi, chapri, gardula, ouli😂😂
@@zeeeli1377 free service nahi milna chahiye kyunki railway itni facilities de raha hai itna paisa toh banta hai
Subodh Jain. GREAT PERSONALITY ❤
You can say whatever you can but Mumbai needs a robust Metro system. The Mumbai Local is the backbone of the city, no doubt about that, but it is also the most disgusting and pathetic way to travel anywhere in the world during peak hours. When the railway employees say that the locals don't make them money, they discount the fact that the city has progressed so much because of locals.
Being born & brought up in Bombay & my father also worked in railways i am familiar with many of these matters but this explanation is very knowledgeable hat's off to this person every word is appreciated.Thank you.
Every year more than 1000 passengers die of accident due to overcrowding or illegal track crossing in mumbai sub urban. Stop glorifying it as mumbai culture. It needs a major overhaul. People's lives are more important than 20 paisa per km ride. And you have the audacity to criticize metro rail. Have some shame.
Agreed on safety point but track crossing is it railways fault we as citizens should also take initiative just for that few minutes of urgency we risk our life😢
1. He didn't criticize metro rail, he simply stated the fact. Metros can never match the capacity what suburban rail can provide. That's a basic fact, worldwide applicable. You cannot compare orange with apple and vice-versa.
2. That's true overcrowding in the coaches is the major factor of fatal accidents, but honestly, as stated running trains any closer or longer is not viable. The overhaul is required for the BEST services and complementing Metro services.
Absence of multiple East-West public transit is a major factor of overloading on the lines until Andheri or Dadar.
3. Fatalities due to illegal track crossing cannot be fault of railways, when the danger & risks involved in doing so is very clear to everyone.
4. In my opinion, what at least WR can experiment is with additional super fast services between the 2 ends during peak with only 3 (alternative intermediate) stops like in evenings with every 15 mins freq:
a. Churchgate - Dadar - Andheri - Mira rd - Virar
b. Churchgate - Dadar - Bandra - Dahisar - Virar
c. Churchgate - Dadar - Borivali - Bhayandar -Virar
The above options are in addition to the existing Fast services
@@yogs1126it is not urgency. It's lazy. They tend to cover it up with urgency.
Kuch BIMARU state h unki population Kam ho jaye. Vaha ke Naukari Kaam mil jaye to City ka crowd Kam hoga. Abhi bhi UP Bihar me kitna baccha paida ho raha hai. 30 Crore ke upar hai ye two states ki.
@@RitwickChatterjee14 first ask why WR is running so many Churchgate - Goregaon/Borivali trains and very less trains beyond Borivali and almost no trains for Dahanu.
And also ask why fast train not directly going to Churchgate after Mumbai Central.
best interviewer ever!! love this man ...what a podcast!!! Love it!!!
Mumbai is paralyzed by Realestate players and political nexus.
That's true 💯 Real estate Mafia political nexus
2025 mein Mumbai Local ke 100 years hone wale hai toh farz banta hai ki ek special train daudai jaaye
Sir's smile radiates an extraordinary level of happiness. It's rare to find such people in today's world. ❤
Such an insightful conversation! Sir ne dil khol ke baatein batai. Thanks for this video.
At 24:50, shows the mentality of typical railway babus who is seating in AC Cabins & functioning the railway operations. Bureaucracy should give some dignity to people travelling in Local Trains.
You have missed the bhajans Part which is the most socially connecting zone for the daily commuters (morning and evening)
Its a seat grabbing scam.
Navi Mumbai plan was made in 1942, considering the population influx in Mumbai city, to have a satellite city to manage the population. In 1964, State Government created a independent body called CIDCO. Actual ground work started in 1971, by development of Vashi - Sector - 1, construction of creek bridge in between Vashi - Mumbai. First residence were employees of BARC. All mostly Government officials.
Parallelly CIDCO started developing other nodes too till Panvel
Travelling from Virar to Church gate takes the train 1hr17mins for 60-70km (roughly the track length, not aerial distance!) journey. It takes a fast suburban train from Watford Junction to London Euston (approx. 30 km) 21 mins. Yes, Metro options in London take 1 hr with about 13-15 stops just like the Mumbai local route. Then Mumbai Local has it beat on speed but considering population density Mumbai needs to have a fast train that can also do Virar to Churchgate in 30 mins! Something an brand new RRTS could do. The bullet train could do that in 12 minutes. (Although, it will only go to BKC and not Churchgate or CSMT at the moment).
At the *_very minimum the doors of the local should be automatic closing!_* This should be a *basic safety* requirement! We should *NOT* have people hanging out of the trains in 2024!
I personally also think that *air conditioning is a human right...* especially in a climate like Mumbai and most of India!
No..never..open door is the real fun
Open doors are more convenient bro
@@shiva9575 Why should apparent "convenience" be held above the safety of human life?! Also, convenient does NOT mean efficient. The speed cannot be increased if the doors do not close.
Super 👍 very much informative. Thanks Subodh sir
Mtlr. Subodh seems to be from CR. You may get someone from WR as well for an interview.
Mumbai Locals ❤
Lovely man would like to hear for hours
90% of the mill workers were from Maharashtra. 60% of them were from Konkan and rest were from Nashik, Pune and western Maharashtra.North Indians influx started in Mumbai from during 1960's and that to because of depiction of Mumbai in Hindi movies. After Shivasena's governmetn free housing for zuggi owners gave boost to this influx.
Noted with thanks
Valid questions asked ....Very well narrated by respected guest.....one of the best interviews I have seen on Mumbai Suburban rail network. Thank you!!
इन्हें सुनकर राजू श्रीवास्तव की याद आ गई.. बार बार... ऐ ऐ करते है।
Raju ke ye video kehna chaiye tha
I enjoyed yeeeh yeeeh in every sentence. It was epic 😂😂😂.
By far, it's the best podcast by JK. Maza aa gaya🫡🫡
he has so much of knowledge and no doubt that mumbai local is excellent but I want him to take a positive stand on metro because thats are well safe and well equipped with ac so transportation is very good
Locals should have expanded long back. Still running on 2+2 tracks when it should be made 4+4 upto Kalyan and Virar.
Bahut hi mazedar podcast.
Purani history suburban rail ki, kya kya development hue, operational insights sun ne ko mile.
Sir ki bahut indrpth knowledge hai Mumbai ki lifeline transport system ki.
Anand aa gya!
This is going to be monumental 🎉 all
A true picture of Mumbai local by shri S K jain Sir.
Such a sensible guy please hire this kinda people as consultant for all infrastructure projects.....
so interesting to hear about the history of suburban transport systems in mumbai.. brilliant!!
Wonderful interview. Learned a lot of information about Mumbai's suburban train at a cogent and holistic level.
Got one clear understanding from Sir's interview is that until we have govt running railways it will always be ram bharose except for trains like Vande Bharat & Rajdhani as they have Babus blessings. Railway is purely meant for socialist purposes. As he said IR has no interest in running suburban trains as they are heavily loss making and IR officials are reactive instead of being proactive given the job security
Amazing. Just amazing. What a person! ❤️
An amazing and insightful podcast.
Such a practical person @thanks Subhodh Jain and Jk super
kolkatta suburban is 4 times the Mumbai suburban length but carries just 25% ridership of what mumbai suburban daily traffic.
Explained very well by Subodh Jain Sir great railway officer
Bhai do 1 more session how local train manage 3 min gap i mean signalling kaise hota hai. 3 min means a train is there behind on same track and perhaps a train ahead. How they manage gap and running at 45-50kmphi need to understand.
Interesting and detailed analysis of Mumbai local trains their growth and economic growth of the city is interlinked
Harbour line not getting the respect it deserves.
1. All the old trains from central and western line gets dumped to harbour line.
2. No fast train or express trains in harbour.
3. Unnesserily many trains are going to Bandra/Goregaon from Vadala leaving very less trains for Panvel.
4. Navi Mumbai region of harbour line is much better than Thane Kalyan region of central line and also much better than Borivali Virar region of Western line but still harbour line is given lesat preference.
5. So less trains from Thane to Uran in harbour line.
6. Harbour line should be extended beyond Panvel (to Lonavala and Mangaon).
7. Express trains going towards Pune should be diverted at harbour line (CSMT - Panvel - Karjat - Lonavala - Pune) as the distance is less than ongoing route (CSMT - Kalyan - Karjat - Lonavala - Pune) and also this new route will connect Mumbai, Navi Mumbai, Panvel, Karjat, Lonavala and Pune in a much better way than the ongoing route.
8. Express trains going through Konkan region should also be sent via harbour line.
9. The elevated stations between Sandhurst Road and Cotton Green should be converted to normal level.
10. Harbour line needs to have more platforms at CSMT currently it's having only 2 platforms because of which all harbour trains are stopping between Masjid and CST for platform clearance.
I hope CR makes the above mentioned changes as quickly as possible ❤❤
Most of your demands are logical and justified but there is no one to take it forward. CIDCO having sold most of the properties is not interested in infrastructure development anymore.
Your suggestions are just sounding like Mumbai in a wonderland when you speak about making Sandhurst Road and Cotton Green stations at ground level. That was mainly done due to already having existing live lines running below and many important roads running below. Making it at ground level is next to impossible and will result in loss of an important heritage. Secondly you spoke about having more trains towards Panvel, while that already exists my dear friend. I stay in Goregaon and to travel from VT makes me wait for almost 25 to 30 minutes for the next train to arrive. While you have a train going towards Panvel very frequently from VT and Vadala Road stations. Trains towards the Western side are clearly not “unnecessary” as we need more east west connectivity in Mumbai
Also, you can not increase the platform on the Harbor line from CST to Kurla to Mankhurd, I guess, due to space constraints, so there is no question of express train running on Harbor.
@@sandeep1194ra exactly you can never run express trains on Harbour line it should only be for suburban for maintaining punctuality of the locals and frequency can only be increased by upgrading the signaling system to the latest technology (CBTC)
@saamirsyed4261 yaa that's what if you need to make additional lines till CST either you need to make elevated line or you need to clear slums on one of the sides and looking at current situation clearing slums also cannot create additional lines as main road is very close to these lines so overall there is no viable option for making additional lines unless gov comes with very strict laws and which is also not possible due very unstable form of our government at present.
Edit: also elevated line can come from mankhurd till wadala or so but not beyond till CST where will it go as CST is one of the UNESCO WHS so you cannot change the structure of it if at all you need then lots of paper work and clerance needs to be done.
In short, Harbour cannot extend beyond present 2 lines atleast till wadala from CST
Thanks a ton; rivetting!
Very informative podcast and really enjoyed Mr Jain’s jovial demeanour. Also thank him for some fantastic insights into the working of city’s lifeline and grateful for his service to it. However, I am disappointed that the host didn’t touch the topic of safety passengers traveling on locals. With approx 300 or more deaths due to accidents every year, it is imperative that passenger safety is addressed as the utmost priority. There is no harm in sacrificing frequency or average speed if locals can be made safer for its passengers. People dying falling off trains is pathetic and downright callous of authorities in this age.
What a lifeline really close to my heart. Although i m from Delhi
Is it possible to have a local train having both AC and Non AC coaches in one train so that all classes of passengers can travel at a time.
Best interview
Brings up a lot of good points but should also have reflected on how some networks like Tokyo are vastly superior in terms of number of people carried, safety and speed. Tokyo suburban rail (not considering the metro / subway) is probably the best in the world, and we can do well to learn from them.
This conversation could have been much enriching...there are lot of safety issues with local trains.. cleanliness is big issue..locals are not getting modernized on time...but interviewer seems to be interested only is scoring positive points..
बॉम्बे नाही मुंबई बोला✌️🚩
Very interesting and captivating information. Enjoyed this interview.
57:14 😂😂😂As simple as that
Best podcast ever consumed.
Mast show hai
Need more infrastructure news and process
KY INDIAN RAILWAY LHB COACHES OR ICF COACHES KO BHI MEMU TRAIN SET ME CHANGE KAR SAKTI HE ? AGAR HA TO IR KE MULTIPLE PROBLEM SOLVE HO SAKTE HE
Very good interview. Excellent.
Thanks sir ❤
If you want to understand what is wrong with Mumbai Suburban and city planning, just look at the statement of this expert on Virar being the next important station after Borivali on the Mumbai western line. The population density between Borivali and Virar is much higher compared to that between Andheri and Borivali but this area simply does not get the required attention.
👌Excellent 👍
This podcast is so insightful!
55:00 its not like metro and railway has to compete
End user will only choose one over the other because of convenience, be it for a college going student or a young graduate going to Andheri / Saki Naka for his job or a fisherman travelling to Dadar
Metro lines are an alternative
Mumbai trains seriously need to have a overhaul
मुंबई हमको जम गई , भई वाह, क्या interview लिया , exceptional !
The first motor cars didn't start being sold in 1905 as the man said, but rather 20 years ago in 1886.
Maybe you are right
@@subodhjain6809 Nevertheless, amazing walk the talk through history. 🙏🏼
ehhh ? 😂. I ended up nodding to every point after listening to it.
One more thing that sucks is that amount of automated booking counters
These are not well marked, often low in number
Usually put in one part of the station
Instead more of these machines should be put on stations and put near every entry exit point, even parking spaces
Nice interview, and local trains service outstanding now need Palghar to CR local connection
Change train at Dadar
The "lifeline of Mumbai" takes many peoples... "life"... every year. 🙃
Invite people like ashwini bhide MD of MMRCL when talking about mumbai because IR babaus never want to improve services or introduce any changes AC locals are so popular nowdays they are filled but still IR is in denial to improve AC service and resuce fare
Sir. Why did u allow the slums around tracks
Good knowledge thanks
Nice video sir
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What an insightful episode
I know many people who take the journey daily even after retirement.
Nothing can complete with Mumbai Local
You didn't ask question on Video Coach of Mumbai Local.
Missed contribution of Nana Shankar Sheth in development of Mumbai
Agreed
I would like to interact with the person who is giving information in this pot cast.
Suburban railway system is very good, but speed over safety is a priority. Many people do still lost their life during commuting which is unacceptable in 2024.
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Sir forgot to add -
1. Group of 4 uncles would play rummy by using briefcase as a table. Settle the account at the end of month.
2. Girls sell various kind of ornaments, accessories.
A hot humid local train journey made enjoyable but adding value by these ways.
Not to forget, maximum fights happen ladies compartment only. Haha
Irony is ladies prefer travelling in gents compartment. Instead of ladies. This is another feminine mystery.
Sir central line ke karjat khopoli ke local trains ki badao sir
Yeee OP
26:00 Bro even Mumbai has similar levels of pollution as Delhi
We are just lucky to have the sea by our side
Railway is very lethargic and bureaucratic in nature, bitches couldn't even start proper rail services to Uran in like 15years after the new airport was conceived.
Poor maan still choose local...
I am worried about safely in peak hours
Har Sunday mega block lene ke baad bhi central railway ki locals kyon time pe nahi chalti? Hum apne aap ko top 5 countries ke ginte gai. To hum chodke baki 4 countries me bhi aise hi har Sunday me mega block liya jaata hai? Un countries me train late nahi chalti, par hmare yaha locals 15 to 30 min late chalti hai. 15 saal pahale central locals 5-6 min ke gap se chalti thi Aaj bhi voh 5 min ke gap se chalti hei. Ye time 3 min Tak kya Kam nahi ho sakta hai. Jab kuch bhi kahi problem hota hai, to train cancel kar di jaati hai, ye nahi hota ki jaha Tak jakar vapas aa sakti hai vaha to train chalani chahiye?
But what happened in Bhiwandi station...s.t bus not on time second things is not connection any railways ambernath to bhiwandi road station
26:46 48 kmph is nothing to be proud off! 26:54 & 1:02:20 I don't think these claims for Metro and suburban speed is correct. The average speed of Metro is 80 kmph worldwide. However, I have personally noticed that local trains and at least some Tier 2 Metros in India run much slower than e.g. London or Paris. If we talk of new Suburban rail/Airport Express/RRTS then we can reach 160 kmph.
Metro runs every 3 minutes. It has stops every 1 km. You cannot compare fast Local that doesn’t stop at most stations with metro that stops every km. Metro is more convenient than Local any day.
I am from Mumbai , Mumbai train mai insan nahi janwar travel karti hai , jo jetna powerful wo utna daka mar ki travel karta hai
Politics too plays a big hand in working of Railways. Due to political interference, a simple 4 km track between Matunga and Khar has not been completed. if it has been done, a lot of outstation trains could have been diverted onto the 5 th line, leaving more slots open on the 3rd and 4th fast track to run more fast train on the Mumbai western railway.
the 5th and 6th line will make no vital difference until the 5 th line is made complete from Borivali to Mumbai central. the missing 4 km would change it immensely.
if the 5th line on western railway was made complete between Borivali and Mumbai central, then more fast trains can be run on fast tracks by diverting outstation trains on to 5th track. also additional fast local trains can be run on the 5th track as and when required. in addition, if this 5th line is extended till Naigaon and then an extension made to join the Vasai-Diva line, then a lot of trains from Mumbai central can be run towards inner cities and towns of Maharashtra. it would relieve the pressure on central railways.
I mean borivali -virar 5th and 6th line is also important project that will sideline outstation trains from fast line nd will be of relief to virar vasai population...
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Best line " Lekin shear Jo hai kitabo pr nhi chalta "
Mumbai is having about 437 sq.km. area and a population about 12.5 million and floating population of about 5 million.
मुंबई लोकल में हर दिन बाहर से आनेवाले और अंदर रहने वाले लोग बहोत ज्यादा है। नई जगह पे सब इंडस्ट्री होनी चाहिए।
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