The reason Ken was dumped by Tommy also is related to Ray Liotta breaking up with R* on really bad terms. T* have had enough of his tantrums as well and they had to improvise a bit. The original plot was to add TOmmy as a cameo as well, but this incident made them change tactics a bit
@@elmaster48 that remains as unknown as Maria’s fate at the end of GTA3. R* didn’t elaborate, these were testimonies from former game devs. This is the reason why R* has had enough of hiring celebs in the HD Gta’s. Sam L jackson however was a really good guy to work with, he enjoyed being Tenpenny.
Heck I could imagine a mission tree involving flying to Vice City and maybe help reconnect Tommy Vercetti with Ken Rosenberg and maybe the friendship of theirs can be rebuild. Imagine the 3d gta universe map could’ve connected the three or so locations from each main games setting. That could’ve made the definitive edition more possible to be playable or brought upon. It could’ve increased the user score instead of having the 0.5 score it got from its release day.
It's also why a true remaster is impossible to make. If you wanted to remaster it, you'd probably want to record some new dialogue but with Ray Liotta, and Burt Reynolds (when he was alive), hated working with "some video company" that would cause them being recast, which would create an uproar among fans
@@almostshawn3230 this also modified Tommy’s character. it made him look like a complete asshole, dumping Rosenberg at rehab, all after at the end of Vice City realized that Ken was his only loyal and true friend. Sonny and Lance stabbed him in the back while Ken stuck with him to the end despite showing him no respect.
14:18, CJ basically trolled Johnny to death. Then again, Johnny trashed slot machines in the casino and gave away his affiliation out of fear from being tied to the hood of a Feltzer. I also love how CJ was like "Damn, that guy's messed up!" after Johnny dies. If you get trapped in the meat locker with Rosenberg, you'll fail the mission. I bet CJ felt horrible for helping OG Loc much earlier in the story, by killing Madd Dogg's manager and stealing his rhyme book. These gamblers are scumbags.
I find it weird that CJ never told madd dogg that loc had him break into his mansion to steal the rhyme book and then loc had CJ murder his manager. I’m sure madd dogg would have been pissed at CJ but then he would have forgiven him since CJ saved his life after he was contemplating suicide.
@@pyr1412 always wondered that too, I remember CJ was telling loc how he betrayed him and his brother when they were confronting Loc in that mission near the end of the story. Maybe he did tell him off screen but idk
Ironic that it took CJ to help stir up Salvatore’s paranoia, created a huge fire of a mob war between the three families of liberty city leading to those events in 1998. As well as causing Claude to nearly get blown up and ending up killing the boss and becoming a mark man in the Saints Mark district of Portland.
@@andersoncontreras183 A made man is different than a marked man. A Made Man in the Mafia means that they're officially recognized as being part of the Mafia family they're in and a Marked Man means that he has been singled out and that Mafia members basically have the green light to kill them by any means necessary, so basically since Claude got set up by Salvatore and then later killed him he became a Marked Man towards the Leone family in GTA 3, that's why they're so hostile towards you if you try to set foot in St. Mark's. Hope this helped
It’s amazing really. If not for Carl betraying the Leones, Sal wouldn’t have been as paranoid and been more powerful. Not to mention how he further destroyed the Forellis and began the decline of the Sindaccos in a way.
1:50, That parrot is also another funny character. Thankfully it'll appear again. That quote was also Tony stating that he isn't an informant after Omar Suarez was executed for his involvement in putting two of Sosa's associates away for life. Oh yeah, he also has the makings of a varsity pet.
16:36 Yes you’re correct on that one but that’s what happens if you go in the freezer depends how deep you go in the mission if ken is not in the freezer you get trap ken will open the door and if ken is in the freezer with you getting trap you will get a unique fail
That reaction from Pro after Johnny's death had me laughing too. Also, I think that, while Tommy didn't force the mob to hire Ken, he is partially responsible for Ken's situation. He left him for dead in the desert, again as I said, he is a recovering addict. He was in no position to refuse Salvatore and Johnny, and he was in a very stressful situation for a while. I think he was far more stressed here than in Vice City's events. Also, I have been amazed how OG Loc's story arc led to such an important moment - returning to Los Santos. If Carl didn't met Madd Dogg, he wouldn't have used his mansion as a base. Still, there is a chance that Sweet would have insisted to take back Grove Street and Ganton from the Ballas, but Carl's return to the city was because he had a relatively safe HQ, away from Smoke's men.
Casino security is classed as cops. The female ped in the beginning was spawned as a proverbial bad apple. She tried to attack the closest 'cop' she could find. It happens in freeroam too
Was waiting and Im pumped for this part. Watch the Thursday Night football game and after it I was just waiting for this part. Keep up the work Pro.... I'm def enjoying this series
Also the real reason why this Tommy line became told was because of Tommy Vercetti’s voice actor Ray Liotta feeling underpaid when Vice City was a success and despite having a name for the role in goodfellas, he also felt like he had attitude problems with the rockstar games crew. And so he wasn’t able to do voice over for San Andreas which in the original draft, he was supposed to appear in San Andreas.
Heck I could imagine a mission tree involving flying to Vice City and maybe help reconnect Tommy Vercetti with Ken Rosenberg and maybe the friendship of theirs can be rebuild. Imagine the 3d gta universe map could’ve connected the three or so locations from each main games setting. That could’ve made the definitive edition more possible to be playable or brought upon. It could’ve increased the user score instead of having the 0.5 score it got from its release day.
Fun fact sometimes during that scene where the mobster jumps over the fire he has a baseball bat instead of a chainsaw. Don't know if that's the same for the definitive edition though.
Also “bada bing” is a line from The Godfather part I movie. Said by Sonny Corleone in one conversation scene or something. That line did became an inspired name for the strip club in the Sopranos.
I don’t normally do this but here’s another fact: if you do all of mad dogs missions The price of his clothes will get more Expensive but og loc’s clothes will get more cheap
Hey pro ur head aches maybe from too much blue light from video games, phones and computer screens. Since that’s most of ur profession, and adding every day eye strain and stress doesn’t help. Buy some blue light glasses ($20 ones work good but the $50 and up ones are even better) look into it I promise it’s life changing for everything. I got mine for a prescription pair of glasses and I only wear them 2 weeks on and off. No more head aches and if I do get one putting on or taking off the glasses help
They need to fix this better than they already have. They’ve done a good job though. Rain dosent look trash anymore (I don’t like to advertise) but I showed some major things in the new patch
Still cant compete with the originals, the new port Is flawed from the ground up and miss too many things, to fix all It Will be necessary to scrap all and start fresh, the 2 engines mixed and the mess in the code Is ridocoulus
@@gillespriod5509 ridiculous* and yes you’re right about this being flawed and shitty. But at the moment they’ve fixed most of the major bugs, orange sky and it’ll be like a HD original.
21:31 The priest on the right was the subject of the myths regarding some supernatural being who encourage people to do bad things, hence why he is encouraging Madd Dogg to jump
Imagine if that truck CJ used to save Dog was manual, I bet he'd been wishing it was automatic, even though he's a car guy. Changing back and forth between 1st and Reverse under pressure can be lot of work, in some cars, reverse might not even go in first try.
It would be a little weird to do a lore video about the casino storyline, because you already covered that in detail in the lore video about why Salvatore betrayed Claude.
im not sure if you know this or just forgot to mention it, but Ken’s cocaine addiction also got him disbarred from the legal system, so he’s not a lawyer anymore! He was a lawyer for the Forelli’s and later Tommy in Vice City, but once he got sent into Rehab far after that game, he… practically lost his attorneys badge, is what Im saying.
I hate the fact that Rosenberg didnt say his infamous line "ah it's just like old times tommy!" And CJs like "Who the fuck is Tommy?" 😂😂😂😂
Wow. Did the definitive edition cut that line? Cabrones
@@elperrodelautumo7511 I guess so that blows man straight up
When I played he still said his line
@@DevinRyanVitek probably didnt trigger the line then
I think u had to unlock ken from the freezer then he says the line
14:31 love that classic line
The reason Ken was dumped by Tommy also is related to Ray Liotta breaking up with R* on really bad terms. T* have had enough of his tantrums as well and they had to improvise a bit. The original plot was to add TOmmy as a cameo as well, but this incident made them change tactics a bit
I wonder what role tommy would had in San Andreas if Ray Liotta wasn’t so conflictive.
@@elmaster48 that remains as unknown as Maria’s fate at the end of GTA3. R* didn’t elaborate, these were testimonies from former game devs. This is the reason why R* has had enough of hiring celebs in the HD Gta’s.
Sam L jackson however was a really good guy to work with, he enjoyed being Tenpenny.
Heck I could imagine a mission tree involving flying to Vice City and maybe help reconnect Tommy Vercetti with Ken Rosenberg and maybe the friendship of theirs can be rebuild. Imagine the 3d gta universe map could’ve connected the three or so locations from each main games setting. That could’ve made the definitive edition more possible to be playable or brought upon. It could’ve increased the user score instead of having the 0.5 score it got from its release day.
It's also why a true remaster is impossible to make. If you wanted to remaster it, you'd probably want to record some new dialogue but with Ray Liotta, and Burt Reynolds (when he was alive), hated working with "some video company" that would cause them being recast, which would create an uproar among fans
@@almostshawn3230 this also modified Tommy’s character. it made him look like a complete asshole, dumping Rosenberg at rehab, all after at the end of Vice City realized that Ken was his only loyal and true friend. Sonny and Lance stabbed him in the back while Ken stuck with him to the end despite showing him no respect.
7:11 Professional is having a great time with the NPC's 😂😂😂
i was dead 💀
6:09 I love how Professional just killed Johnny Sindacco with perfect aim 😂🤦🏼♂️
on perfect time too
14:18, CJ basically trolled Johnny to death. Then again, Johnny trashed slot machines in the casino and gave away his affiliation out of fear from being tied to the hood of a Feltzer. I also love how CJ was like "Damn, that guy's messed up!" after Johnny dies. If you get trapped in the meat locker with Rosenberg, you'll fail the mission.
I bet CJ felt horrible for helping OG Loc much earlier in the story, by killing Madd Dogg's manager and stealing his rhyme book. These gamblers are scumbags.
I find it weird that CJ never told madd dogg that loc had him break into his mansion to steal the rhyme book and then loc had CJ murder his manager. I’m sure madd dogg would have been pissed at CJ but then he would have forgiven him since CJ saved his life after he was contemplating suicide.
@@pyr1412 always wondered that too, I remember CJ was telling loc how he betrayed him and his brother when they were confronting Loc in that mission near the end of the story. Maybe he did tell him off screen but idk
Ironic that it took CJ to help stir up Salvatore’s paranoia, created a huge fire of a mob war between the three families of liberty city leading to those events in 1998. As well as causing Claude to nearly get blown up and ending up killing the boss and becoming a mark man in the Saints Mark district of Portland.
And they say being a made man in the mafia was a good thing 😂☠
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@@andersoncontreras183 A made man is different than a marked man. A Made Man in the Mafia means that they're officially recognized as being part of the Mafia family they're in and a Marked Man means that he has been singled out and that Mafia members basically have the green light to kill them by any means necessary, so basically since Claude got set up by Salvatore and then later killed him he became a Marked Man towards the Leone family in GTA 3, that's why they're so hostile towards you if you try to set foot in St. Mark's. Hope this helped
But remember cj a boss and plus he has grove so grove vs the mafia wouldn’t the mafia would lose since grove has 3 or 4 different gangs
It’s amazing really. If not for Carl betraying the Leones, Sal wouldn’t have been as paranoid and been more powerful. Not to mention how he further destroyed the Forellis and began the decline of the Sindaccos in a way.
7:14 that reminds me of GTA Online so much. There is a reason I stay off the road when I shoot
7:16 lmaoooo! Loved that moment bro the timing was amazing
Imagine being so badass and terrifying that you kill someone with your mere presence
Couldn't stop laughing at that part, poor dude.
Damn CJ scared Johnny to death and put him in the hospital,saved him from death then literally scared him to death
That was a pretty dumb move for CJ, he should hide from Rosenberg and hear their conversation and contact Woozy at the end.
1:50, That parrot is also another funny character. Thankfully it'll appear again. That quote was also Tony stating that he isn't an informant after Omar Suarez was executed for his involvement in putting two of Sosa's associates away for life. Oh yeah, he also has the makings of a varsity pet.
The Sindaccos must have been arguing if it’s cowboy or fedora night before CJ and Rosenberg got there
Right after him explaining the stupidity of npc’s
- 7:39 😂
0:31 Don’t pay the mafia and you’ll end up with consequences
No it’s just a glitch lmao
True that. It was glitchy as hell though
@@lenol0315 r/whoosh
After you finish San Andres you should make a montage of the glitches bugs and random encounters with NPC lol
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The video would be 100 years long.
@@rezcellent Definitely, this remaster is so bad.
16:36 Yes you’re correct on that one but that’s what happens if you go in the freezer depends how deep you go in the mission if ken is not in the freezer you get trap ken will open the door and if ken is in the freezer with you getting trap you will get a unique fail
That reaction from Pro after Johnny's death had me laughing too. Also, I think that, while Tommy didn't force the mob to hire Ken, he is partially responsible for Ken's situation. He left him for dead in the desert, again as I said, he is a recovering addict. He was in no position to refuse Salvatore and Johnny, and he was in a very stressful situation for a while. I think he was far more stressed here than in Vice City's events. Also, I have been amazed how OG Loc's story arc led to such an important moment - returning to Los Santos. If Carl didn't met Madd Dogg, he wouldn't have used his mansion as a base. Still, there is a chance that Sweet would have insisted to take back Grove Street and Ganton from the Ballas, but Carl's return to the city was because he had a relatively safe HQ, away from Smoke's men.
0:32
Casino security right there.
Kinda sad that you didn't let Ken get stuck in the freezer, after you open it he mentions Tommy saving him once again.
Nice pfp
@@SuperDuperNerd yeah it was a prank one of my friends pulled forever ago and I just kept it. It's just funny.
Casino security is classed as cops. The female ped in the beginning was spawned as a proverbial bad apple. She tried to attack the closest 'cop' she could find. It happens in freeroam too
First thing you see when you walk in a casino is a guard gunning down a customer
She was probably card counting 🤣 it is a mob casino after all 🤣
she ran up to him and punched him at 0:26
Was waiting and Im pumped for this part. Watch the Thursday Night football game and after it I was just waiting for this part. Keep up the work Pro.... I'm def enjoying this series
What
y did u delete ur comment
@@average__height8033 Didn't delete my comment. Other guy completely delete his
@@TreezySportsTakes you said “why my account”
@@average__height8033 You said I hope your account gets banned. thought you were talking about me
"Looks like Grove Street Games still has a lot of work to do on this game" lmfaooo 🤣🤣🤣
Also the real reason why this Tommy line became told was because of Tommy Vercetti’s voice actor Ray Liotta feeling underpaid when Vice City was a success and despite having a name for the role in goodfellas, he also felt like he had attitude problems with the rockstar games crew. And so he wasn’t able to do voice over for San Andreas which in the original draft, he was supposed to appear in San Andreas.
He didn't even attempt to pronounce abattoir 😂💀
They tried to trick them with counterfeit chips.
0:32
Sindaccos:Are the weakest Mob Family
Also the Sindaccos:Use Micro Smgs,Combat Shotguns and Smgs
Nice to hear that you are feeling better.
Professional : Good thing I kept all that ammo from Area 69
Me: Yeah... *R1 R2 L1 R2 round and round the dpad* Ammo from the mission...
Heck I could imagine a mission tree involving flying to Vice City and maybe help reconnect Tommy Vercetti with Ken Rosenberg and maybe the friendship of theirs can be rebuild. Imagine the 3d gta universe map could’ve connected the three or so locations from each main games setting. That could’ve made the definitive edition more possible to be playable or brought upon. It could’ve increased the user score instead of having the 0.5 score it got from its release day.
Salvatore is pretty badass in his younger days
Now, he's broken thanks to CJ, leading up to point the gun Toni, and later setting up Claude.
Especially in lbs, man can handle a shotgun
Love that ya include lore in your vids, thank you.
20:48
CJ: *Sweating Jordan Peele*
14:32 hahahaha got me everytime
7:15 that was funny 😂😂
06:32 That’s an interesting strategy they’ve got there. Lets see if it pans out, Cotton.
Lmao when the npc ran you over 😂😂
Just finished watching the last two videos and now you uploaded this one! Love your videos man
Fun fact sometimes during that scene where the mobster jumps over the fire he has a baseball bat instead of a chainsaw. Don't know if that's the same for the definitive edition though.
He'll have the chainsaw if you don't have one in your weapon inventory.
Good that your feeling better
0:32 I bet he was mad and wanted to fight a customer
The forellis mustve been listening to too much KRose
Also “bada bing” is a line from The Godfather part I movie. Said by Sonny Corleone in one conversation scene or something. That line did became an inspired name for the strip club in the Sopranos.
I don’t normally do this but here’s another fact: if you do all of mad dogs missions The price of his clothes will get more Expensive but og loc’s clothes will get more cheap
Really? Damn...
@@ldking5132 sadly yes
Loc was my one of my favorite side antagonist just because of how egotistical and funny his party cutseen was
Hey pro ur head aches maybe from too much blue light from video games, phones and computer screens. Since that’s most of ur profession, and adding every day eye strain and stress doesn’t help. Buy some blue light glasses ($20 ones work good but the $50 and up ones are even better) look into it I promise it’s life changing for everything. I got mine for a prescription pair of glasses and I only wear them 2 weeks on and off. No more head aches and if I do get one putting on or taking off the glasses help
Ken Rosenberg is my favorite 3d gta side character
Same. His weakness was his coke addiction.
Hey professional. I hope that Tony the parrot 🦜 gets a lore video. He deserves for being a cameo animal.
1M subs congrats my guy :D
By the way, Professional, Rockstar *did not* put GTA III, Vice City and San Andreas back onto the Playstation Store
they did not indeed
@@average__height8033 unfortunate
Ken: It's been long time, eh Tommy
CJ: Who the hell is Tommy
That's not what he said
@@SuperDuperNerd I know
7:16 Guess an npc was trying to be a hero for the forellis.
They need to fix this better than they already have. They’ve done a good job though. Rain dosent look trash anymore (I don’t like to advertise) but I showed some major things in the new patch
Still cant compete with the originals, the new port Is flawed from the ground up and miss too many things, to fix all It Will be necessary to scrap all and start fresh, the 2 engines mixed and the mess in the code Is ridocoulus
@@gillespriod5509 ridiculous* and yes you’re right about this being flawed and shitty. But at the moment they’ve fixed most of the major bugs, orange sky and it’ll be like a HD original.
sorry like THE original
21:31 The priest on the right was the subject of the myths regarding some supernatural being who encourage people to do bad things, hence why he is encouraging Madd Dogg to jump
14:58 The Sindacco's chainsaw gangster was the theme for many myths regarding the existence of Leatherface in GTA San Andreas :)
The mob straight clipping someone in the casino sending a message to CJ right off the bat
Loving your content, Professional! Keep it up! :)
"So this is Caligula's Casino remastered."
0:28
7:15
Well, that's bad timing.
Hey Professional, can you make a GTA 4 lore video regarding the Mafia gangs in Alderney? (Pegorinos, Ancelottis, etc.)
Damn, Ken is not himself anymore ever since Tommy kicked him out
Yeah I really feel bad for him especially when he thought of Tommy as a friend
@@derushcore9514 yeah and the sad part is he still uses drugs even after the las vantruas missions
I haven’t had time because of the cooking and cleaning.Looking after 3 boys., that's my Life.
24:14
trivia: The truck you used to save Madd Dog is bulletproof
Npcs are so unpredictable, one moment they run over the person you’re after or they end up running you over.
Awesome video Bro 😎😎😎😎😎
Later CJ will bring Madd dogg to revive his career and take back rhyme book from Og loc
What if Madd Dogg knew that CJ is the one who stole his rhyme book and killed his manager?
0:56 intensive care
10:06 The meat business
20:09 madd dogg
THIS IS SO EXCITING TOMMY, IT'S LIKE OLD TIMES
I was waiting for you to post the part in Rosenberg call CJ Tommy referring to how Tommy was in GTA vice city
Kent Paul looks a little like Slim Shady(Eminem)
Imagine if that truck CJ used to save Dog was manual, I bet he'd been wishing it was automatic, even though he's a car guy.
Changing back and forth between 1st and Reverse under pressure can be lot of work, in some cars, reverse might not even go in first try.
Rosenberg really looks terrible after only a few years 🤣
Bro you are the best youtuber in the world
I can say that Ken Rosenbegr has the scariest job as a civilain and not much of a fighter in the gta franchise
7:39 right after he was done talking about the stupid NPC's 💀
14:40 I love his definitive arms
It would be a little weird to do a lore video about the casino storyline, because you already covered that in detail in the lore video about why Salvatore betrayed Claude.
At 6:13 a motorcycle hit you and he got knocked over lmAo 🤣 defective edition lol
funny scene CJ killed Johnny by Heart attack😂😂
I Enjoy your videos So much Much Love 👍🏻❤❤❤❤
This game is getting funnier because of the bugs.
im not sure if you know this or just forgot to mention it, but Ken’s cocaine addiction also got him disbarred from the legal system, so he’s not a lawyer anymore! He was a lawyer for the Forelli’s and later Tommy in Vice City, but once he got sent into Rehab far after that game, he… practically lost his attorneys badge, is what Im saying.
Hey take care of urself man ! Bless.
That NPC dint get Salvatore shine box that why they die
7:16 lmaooooo some typa shit that would happen to me
I haven’t had time because of the cooking and cleaning.
7:10 classic GTA moment
Also you can tell what ambulance it is because the Forelli one doesn't move the other 2 do
7:40
How many NPCs are gonna end up jumping toward the car at the end of the game?
Targeting is ridiculous because you'll end up targeting someone else instead of the one you want. Also 3 patches for each game in less than a month
Can you upload customised HangarR 17 the complete series.With the granny coral forfeits.uncut.?.
I want Gta LCS and Gta VCS remastered, I want to play all the games chronologically.
Oh man a coked up Ken Rosenberg (sniffff) 😳 😅
not me saying “wow the casino looks nice” as soon as that woman npc gets murdered in front of us-
0:26 the mafia wasnt shooting for no reason the girl just randomly ran up to him and punched him
That lady must have cheated at blackjack
How did u fix the madd dogg mission?
Well I’m here so I’m gonna watch even if it’s midnight
Is it ever stated in lore that Johnny was the son of Pauline Sindacco? It would make sense considering Paulies power in 1992 and 1998.