Ashley Love U RIGHT IT BROKE MY HEART I HAVE TWO SONS. THAT IS IT...MY TWO BOYS IS MY PRINCE...I LOVE THEM MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD.... I NEVER CURSED INFRONT OF MY BOYS...ONE IS 27 years old AND MY LAST BABY IS 14 YEARS OLD... I LOVE MYSELF FIRST, THEN I LOVE OTHERS ...THAT IS HOW I WAS READY TO HAVE MY FIRST SON, THEN THE LAST SON....
Yrs. And that sky lady didn't give him a chance. She was so dhort with him. Called him names. Like he's the one who fucked up!! I don't like her at all.
Genesis wasn’t mad. He was hurt. His heart held in that feeling of neglect went she walked off that day and he was never able to heal. And I feel that.
Genesis is just very hurt that she didn't try to really reach out after 15 years he feels like nothing was stopping her from reaching out after 15 years there's a stairs a phone there's the internet there's a lot of s*** that she could have did to reach out to him That's why he's deep down hurt That's how I felt when I finally got to speak to my real father.
Exactly! That first scene of the oldest talking to cease ...if there was ever a real tv moment, this was it. When he spoke about being in jail watching his mom. My heart just bleed 🤧
@@spiritedprincess4509 i think he understands y he's hurt but sky is his friend and he understand her as well but sky need therapy yo it's seems like she's jus like her mother and she don't know how to love cause she never received love from anyone and she need to fix that if she want to make amends with her son's
@Deez Nutsz A lot of moms don't begin motherhood single. Sky made the decision to abandon and give up her son. Not every single mom is neglectful and abusive.
Anna Kolee no that’s not true she could of made her kids struggle but she made the right decision y’all people don’t understand some mothers actually try and do good for their kids and I know this because I don’t have my birth mom in my life .
Jazell !!! I do understand mothers try their best. I’m a mother myself, a young one at that, doing much better and making more effort than some moms at age 30, so don’t come at me with the bullshit. Sky is just a trash mother and an overall trash person in general. Don’t make excuses for trash people because there aren’t any. If it were a man, would that put it in better perspective for you? There’s deadbeat dads and moms. Genesis tells sky what everyone wants to tell sky but can’t because she’s a fucking lunatic and mentally fucked up
Genesis is a mirror of his mother. He got mama issues and so do she. The same thing she doing to her kids is the same thing her mother did too her with the exception of being put up for adoption. Genesis is hurting just like her for not having a mom. She hurt cause her mama not mothering her which in turn she don't know how to mother her own children. It's a generational curse of being a motherless child. He expresses the same hurt she has but he gives it to her raw cause she deserves it. That's her all over again
He did and that what makes it hurt. When you're abandon and you're being mistreated and mislead and you keep thinking is if my mom was here I wouldn't be going through this. You blame your bio parent instead of the person mistreating you. She had no grounds to be mad or disrespectful. She needed to humble herself.
He scares me. His pain is dark and deep. He be too calm. Cesear looked shook. I just think he wants her to admit she shouldn’t have done it as a mom, because then he won’t feel as crazy.
You can tell when looking at Genesis he’s like a dark cloud. But it’s not his fault for how he is, others are accountable for that and Sky is one of them cause he was old enough to remember what happened
The fact he watched her behind the cell having her freedom to “make her life better” and never a phone call from her, really just shows how we need to break these generational curses 😔
Y’all gotta realize she DID stated the fact she wasn’t sure if the kids would even WANT to see her, she was worried about how they would react to her ruining their dynamic with their new family and kept them and THERE feelings in mind. Either way they all didn’t deserve that and I actually think sky made the right decision since she was struggling and knew people who could take care of them. She did what she felt was right by putting them in a family she knows they would be loved and adored in.
@valencia6973 She had 15 years to pick up a phone, and then she kept making everything about her even telling him i hate you becausehe didn't respond to her the way she wanted him to
she approached this situation so badly. i really think she doesn’t fully understand all the damage she caused and she took absolutely no accountability. horrible.
exactly, its as if she wants him to run to her with open arms, all happy and everything when the boy is traumatized by the abandonment. She doesn't see that part. I was so mad when she started shouting at him, she's too impatient. And you can't heal trauma with impatience. It's clear that the boy had a lot of resentment towards her and she didn’t see that.
Exactly. Cause her son doesnt need to say much. He wants to listen and thats why he keeps showing up. But she not saying the right things and he dont want to hear the BS at the end of the day. She wasn’t coming correct at all.
Do yall not understand a closed adoption? You're not allowed to reach out to them until they're 18. She said she checked up on them throughout the years. Is she perfect, no. But she was mentally and still is mentally messed up. She never can't with those issues. It's pain on both sides.
@@justshellyhughes4541 then it sounds like the problem was that she chose a closed adoption when he was 5 or 6 years old instead of an open one. If he were younger and didn’t already have a developed attachment to her and memories, a closed adoption would’ve been fine, cause he wouldn’t feel abandoned.
Her and her mama terrible . The guy is too because he's pretending as if it's okay on her side too. Did you notice at the end they even have the grandma in the back going to the other son graduation Genesis never mentioned nothing about any side of a family so nobody on her side of the family contacts him.what's the grandma excuse for 15 years of no contact we already heard their moms lame excuse lol
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Wow I watch baddies & she was the peacemaker always showed so much love to the baddies but now I’m thinking it’s all a facade the bitch couldn’t even show love to her own son bro
Yes, they will always have some type of unconscious hatred towards women. If they don't work it out with that woman that hurt them it will always reflect in their interactions with women. I know 1st hand from my husband
but if she wasn't there how could she have mistreated him? i'm confused. Unless you're saying that he's angry cause she left and now he thinks all women will leave him. I think.
Would you keep your children if u lived in shelters in n out of jail either the state will take him n u won't know where he's going or who he's with or u can find a good solid family to raise him so that one day yall can talk she did what real mom's do what's best for her children
@@selenajones3215 no. I would have my child with me in a shelter. It ain't the best place but he needs his mom. And staying gone while she getting new parts on her body is bull! He was real with that. If she kept up with him and sent him letters, that's a real mom! She should have know when he was locked up and that was the perfect time to write him and support him. He is right to be angry, but he needs to heal.
Don’t make excuses. She gave up a CHILD not a baby. He remembers everything. She was a teenager who had sex she decided to have him so she should have raised him. No excuses.
Tai Quarles exactly. They keep using the “she was young” excuse but she kept her baby for 6 years she was 19 she could have found a job or pulled a nene leaks and stripped. She needs to be honest and say “I loved y’all but I wanted to be young and have fun. I never got to have that”
The reason Genesis and Des have such different feeling is cuz Genesis is old enough to remember. He knows his mom actually struggled and gave them up and prob saw some rough things living with her while Des was born around the time she gave them up and mostly was raised by the adoptive family. Des didn’t really know Sky to be his mom on his birth giver. Genesis went through the pain of being abandoned and saw how his moms life changed after tv and felt all his childhood rage come up again
Sybria Bey true but she didn’t even try to reach out to him in 15 years he has every right to be mad he was in jail watching her on tv and he ain’t get no text no call or nothing from his own mother
What Sky should’ve said was “Genesis, i know I hurt you, I know I did you wrong .. I wanna hear you … I wanna listen to you, please tell me how you feel and how we can heal this” instead of just spazzing out , no matter how mad and how much anger he showed she should’ve sat there and took it and listened 💯
Oh naw. I would've never sat they're and let a grown man disrepect me let alone my son and I'm 18 and I don't even have a baby yet. He can't even have a normal conversation at that massive age. Your mother explaining why she gave you up for the better and your just sitting there with a disrepectful idgaf smirk. He should be lucky he never grew up with struggle and scum with sky. She gave him up for the better. Straight up💯 Also the younger one can forgive and understand so why can't he?
@@khadijahbegum3546 and younger one could forgive her so easily cause he barely had memories with her .. she left them when the oldest one was 6 and the youngest was like 2 (or something like that)
@@khadijahbegum3546he’s not mad that she gave him up, he’s mad she stop talking and caring about him. everyone understands why she gave him up, no one understands why she didn’t speak to him for 15 years. you can’t avoid your own son for 15 years, let him feel abandoned then get mad when he’s mad at you for acting like you don’t care. I don’t understand how his feelings are so hard to understand. He literally said he was in jail watching his mom on tv…. with no call or visit from her because she left and didn’t look back. she was young and lost, didn’t know what the right move was, we get that. but her excuses invalidates his abandonment feelings. a child just wants their mother, struggling or not. if you can’t provide, at least talk to them. sky had no right to not try to understand her sons feelings and make it about her feelings
@@yasmeenbeasley I agree, but 2 him she's still a stranger & tho they have very similar traits he's still saying I'm my own individual so don't compare me 2 her.
Exactly. She keeps initiating conversation with the pity card. Like, we get it, she was in a fucked up place. But he don’t wanna hear that. Just take accountability and say SORRY.
Aycee Tate but even when she was older she didn’t try she’s only trying now and there upset there angry that’s there Mama ain’t no child gonna be all smiles and happiness when there Mama tries to be okay with them after that long and she just doesn’t understand the pain and the stress and anger there feeling rn
@@tanyagregory7601 Right I understand were he coming from because even though she gave him up she still could've been in his life and could've said something to him but she didn't even call or text
"He's not the only one hurting", she says. Yeah but Sky, you're responsible for creating his pain, he didn't create yours. When you become a parent, you don't get to put your feelings first anymore. Real parents and mothers put their kids first. Goes to show that Sky isn't a mother, she's just a baby maker. She had no right to get mad at Genesis. You abandoned him, not the other way around. I'm glad they cut her from the show, this whole situation with her kids showed what kind of person she really is and she's trash.
I disagree cause imagine she did raise them he would been broken to because she wasn’t able to take care of them and they both are stubborn and get mad quite easily she couldn’t raise her children but she did the best she could for six years
@@indigoegundebi I understand she couldn’t provide for them, but she just didn’t even try to keep in contact with them. A phone call once a week, and bday or Christmas gift. Pop out at a school function at least once a school year, would’ve meant a lot to those kids! There’s no excuse, she was selfish!
She really expected her bio children, that she didn’t raise, to just run up to her all smiles and open arms like a Disney movie. And when they weren’t she cusses them out and belittles. I have no words for her. I feel so bad for her kids.
You can never judge anyone about a situation you have never been in. You can't just judge people about how they react to certain situations, because at the end of the day we all have different feeling and reactions to different situations and circumstances.
It’s a very big difference. Des grew up in a good family with loving people around him so he grew to love and be forgiving . Gen had a rough life and went through so much he had a completely different life and he’s angry . Poor baby 😔
The same woman adopted them though. They grew up together Genesis was just older and able to remember the experience of being put up for adoption , des was too young to remember so they just have different life experiences, personalities, and outcomes naturally.
@@tjiggs01 I agree completely, I don't understand where OP got her story from....They grew up together, but Genesis wasn't as well adjusted since he probably had more memories of Sky and her abandoning him.
He wanted to reconnect with her without the cameras and she used their reunion as an opportunity for a bag. I respect Genesis feelings in the matter. It's an unfortunate situation all around.
@UC2_dtk9Y8ve-35jp5pXJj8Q tf is wrong with you...? you talking about Genesis as if your mom likes you. she's depressed and stressed bc of u leave him alone
@@FBicalll his disrepesct comes from his pain. A pain clearly caused by his mother. She cant be mad at him for projecting pain she's responsible for causing.
Nah she was broken and did what she needed to at the time! She angry at herself and forgets that he’s not just angry he’s hurting he got pain…. Sky has to accept it and receive it… she can’t jet her emotions get in the way of talking… he doesn’t understand the WHY she gave him up cuz he loved his mom and all he seen was mommy walked away and ain’t looked back… she handled it wrong.
I think what she trying 2 say is...she read about black people and a group of them are broken ...o......k.........i thought all races go through this as well.... Im just gone play dumb and go alone with her comment .... Or maybe she actaully works with blacks on her job...and is a theapy doctor lol... My point is..this is a uneducated comment...😂 ...i hate to see other races labeling 1 race... Dummies always make themselves look like an ass
Rae Rae I agree and it annoys the hell out of me that sky had the audacity to be mad when she left him. Whatever hurt he feels and expresses she needs to take that and feel it because it’s apparent he’s been feeling it his whole life. She has no room to back talk him or catch an attitude-it’s literally her fault🙄
Genesis wanted his mom.. not no money, no materials, but he wanted the presence of his mother and go through all hardships together. he cant comprehend how his mother can walk away and throw him away......15 years he keeps repeatin.. he really REALLY hurt
Seeing so much of Sky in Genesis is mind blowing. She hurt him so bad and wants forgiveness so quickly, but her attitude towards him sucks so damn bad. Lord heal this baby please, wrap your loving arms around this beautiful child. He deserves some peace. ❤
her attitude towards both of them were so bad, she talks to them like they’re random men off the street. it’s really weird and sick, it’s like she sees no wrong in what she did. she’s the victim & not him in her eyes
When Genesis said “I’ll never forget the day she walked out on me” I felt that in my core. I still remember every small detail of the day my father left and I wasn’t even in preschool at the time. To still have that playing through his head while he sits in another home watching his mother flourish on tv and still not try to reach out....these poor boys
I barely got thru that part.... The hurt and pain in his eyes is outta this world....I pray he finds Peace not for her but for himself because that type of hurt can end up destroying your own self....
I know how it feels my parents give me up and etc and forgot about me for 18 years non of them called or nothing to say happy birthday....but I'm fine now just growing and healing it's hard to cope Ik how they hurting so much
Her karma is coming. She flourished financially. But she’s miserable and going to end up old and alone without her own children. I can’t believe no one can see how demonic she is. Her kids are going to grown and flourish fr and she’s going to be stuck in her toxic old ways with no kids/ grandkids/ etc
Not once did I hear sky say “I’m sorry.” She could apologize for the damage she caused. Everything is about her and her sob story. The first thing she should of said is “I’m so sorry baby, I’m here now.”
@@altheadawn2531ummm okay? She didn’t stay a child forever..that’s why he repeatedly said “you been gone for 15 years”….what was the hold up?? You can call to get that new ass and titties but can’t call ya first born?? Make it make sense lololol
He never did that for him, if he did he would've confronted her and called her out for the fact that she clearly doesn't care about her son based off how she acts
She abandoned him: so he could have a better life than she could provide at the time. She gave up on him: Never have she gave up on him. She keeps setting up times to meet and talk so she can build the relationship back up. He could at least listen hurt or not dont agree to coming to talk if youre just going to sit there and not talk.
This is the consequences that many women create when they chose assholes to have a child with, because they think that they can change a so call thug into a responsible man and father.
she has such a victim mentality that she can’t comprehend the damage and trauma she caused! you really think you can just show up after 15 years and think everything is gonna be raindows and butterflies even though you literally abandoned him? it’s the DELUSION for me. and it’s so funny how she is still only thinking of how she feels and what HES not doing instead of trying to understand how her own son is feeling.
Angry causes he's hurt. It's a correlation. Nothing is one-sided. Everything has details and equivalencies. When are ne sided thinkers like you going to comprehend that!
They cut out the ending of Des and sky’s relationship. And the end of Sky being on the show. She begins to fight with Des because she claims he stole money from her. Des barely even responds to her while Sky calls Des pretty much every disrespectful comment you can think of. Ending with “I should of swallowed you.” Yeah this woman deserves all the karma she gets in life.
She’s hurt herself can’t you see that? Hurt people hurt people. She’s another Tokyo Toni smh. She needs serious help & so does he because he’s always in & out of jail 😒
@@miminotbovered2857 exactlyyy. I have one for a mother and everytime i calmly try to Express my feelings for her as a kid she gets defensive and angry. These type of people need therapy
Ik I’m late af lol but I think it’s more because she is damaged herself. She wasn’t raised to properly express her feelings. She’s always been a fighter. So him not “coming around” made her get defensive. It’s not right but that’s all she knows I guess
She was 15 years old that’s not abandonment I have a son up for adoption because I couldn’t do another child at the time. So don’t sit there and judge people.
@@lavianahampton4641 nope thats dumb if I know I can’t fend for my child I’d rather them be with someone who I know can that’s the best decision you can make yeah what skys doing NOW is very immature but that moment she made at 19 was a real mother decision
I don't care how hard it is or how the river runs i had it hard to very hard what you do for your children you call on Jesus and make it work i kept all three of mines together and did what i had to do.🙏🏿
This I just heae a woman call a black man a King it's about time what took so long to call us that it took for tge black panther movie to call us a King Finally.
@Ash Wolf A lot of black people have at least 15-25 % white in them , means nothing to most , they still consider themselfes as only black mainly (even tyga does, and hes half black half asian/vietnamese) its rarely the case that black people who are at least a quarter anything else considers themself as mixed or as part white/asian etc.
Kai Ro why was I just thinking the same thing.. she needs that toughness that Iyanla bring she don’t need no soft response, someone has to make her understand the serious of the pain that is there
Sky's son said 23 and 1 and I understood his pain. He said he watched his mom get all kinds of plastic surgeries but she couldn't come and visit him. That broke my heart 😪
How would you know? You don’t know my life....One thing I do know is that every man and woman is responsible for the decisions they make.....And that’s why he did the 23 & 1 not his mother!
@@greendixon8924 he never blamed her for his crime he blamed her for not seeing Hime yet was getting her body done not know how he was doing they foster mom didn't say she couldn't see or call them she mad that choice I can see if that woman kept them away from her she helped all sky had to do was give them love and see them
THANK YU 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 tht Bytch is a narcissist always the victim no accountability always me me I I smh she should of never had any children cause she dk how to Luv properly
@@SamanthaD89 Genesis has clear memories of Sky, because she gave him up when 5/6, Des doesn’t. Kandace, the adoptive mother says it was when Genesis’ biological father contacted him Genesis started to change. She thought the bio father’s intentions were sincere but they weren’t. I don’t think Genesis’s emotions were handled properly when he was a kid (because he remembers much of his childhood with Sky).
@@M.Elle- the adoptive mom was no better she’s a criminal herself she was known for scamming and committing fraud. So I do believe she played a role in Genesis going down the wrong path. Des was really taken care by the adoptive mother’s sister.
She should still say it. She is selfish. I can see that. She full of herself. Best thing for him is to be far away and just except that he is better off. She is a loser!
@@BernieMaddoff yes clearly they had different upbringings it was just a little joke obviously theres more to them then one emotion of their mom and theres reasons why they are the way they are but it was just a lil joke not to be taken seriously
“He ain’t ever get to know me...” 15 years you didn’t try to know him, even when he was in jail. and in jail he was watching you grow and be happy. he’s not angry, he’s hurt and in pain.
I mean dude is in his 20's the statement wasnt really a wise statement to be calling him "wise beyond his years" it was more of a hurt/offended statement anyone would make when being compared to a stranger or someone they dislike. And considering how he already made it known how he felt about sky it was dumb of Ceaser to say. Though I get he was just trying to lighten the mood
That statement was so true. Poor thing is so hurt and you can see he is basically saying I dont need to be speaking to you. He don't owe Ceasar anything. This just broke my heart thr pain in his eyes is so real.
Genesis's hurt and pain is deeply rooted. Sky needs to understand that and take accountability. So much has happened off camera that we don't even know about.
This woman said “He walked out he didn’t even try to get to know me” honeeey, he just gave you a taste of what you did to them! People never wanna take what they dish out!😒
She was young she didn't know what to do she was in the street stop tryna down grade cause it's mom's out here who kept there baby and in the street now they kids in the system so stop
@It'sJustKenzie hey ok whatever you say all Im saying is look from both sides and she didn't have support she didn't have a stable home life and on top of that a kid
@@estherloyd4883 stop excusing her dead beat ass. She brought them into this world and they’re here responsibility. She abandoned them and only reached out for a storyline. FOH. I was raised by a single mom cuz my dad was trash just like sky. Genesis is her child and he has every right to be mad. She made her bed and now she had to lay in it.
@@estherloyd4883 there’s no emotions involved. A dead beat is a dead beat. Those are just facts. Sky is a dead beat. She reached out to them for a storyline. She talks to them like they’re strangers off the street. That’s a fact. Just cuz you like her doesn’t mean she’s not a dead beat. You have a nice day as well and kudos for your mom for not being a dead beat and raising loving and providing for you unlike sky.
You can't control someone's pain. You can't call him out because he's not responding the way you might want. He came and sat down in the same room that is progress. She took it 3 steps back!
you know im so confused with her tho. he said she raised him for 6 years. She said she was 14 when she has dez? either way was about 20 years old when she gave them up. how old are the boys. was she 11 when she started having kids. anybody know?
This is heartbreaking. That baby is hurting. He deserved more. Imagine being gave away at 5 years old and your mother never reaching our again. Meanwhile, sky thinks she’s the victim. Came back later to add that Sky did not do the best she could do Ceaser. She didn’t even try. I was on my own at 17 when I had my first and had my second at 20. Still on my own. I’ll be got damned if I didn’t give them an amazing life. She couldn’t even pick up the phone.
@@mrs.c2793 yeah and I get that. However, not reaching out to them again until they were adults and expected to be welcomed with open arms by two completely unscathed boys is totally unrealistic. Also, let’s not forget the fact that these boys were adopted when they were 4 and 5 years old. Meaning sky was 19. She had a lot of time to make the decision of adoption or shaping up. She waited until they were old enough to remember and know her to give them away. Lastly, don’t get me wrong, I do think those boys don’t yet realize that they were very lucky to be placed with their adoptive mother because she raised them properly. It’s their anger and hurt (especially genesis) causing them to act out.
I’m not saying she was right It was a closed adoption if you know how those are then Yk that means no communications between the birth parents, the child and adoptive family .
They should’ve had a social worker brief Sky on what to expect, how to react and mediate. I don’t think she was wrong at all for giving them a better life but there’s going to be anger and pain from the child when he remembers the abandonment.
She lied about having twins, she lied about their adoptive parents... Sky is disgusting. What mother just turns her back on children she's raised for 6 years? And then to get on TV and lie about them
@@kingrecent1”Atleast she came back”…so does that excuse her leaving him at six and the pain the CHILD had to endure? Imagine being a child growing up without your mom. By the time you grown you become independent, got your own spot. It’s not the same even if she did come back lol
She had the wrong attitude when she gave her kids up and she still has it. That young man is allowed to be angry, hurt, and whatever else. He wasn’t a baby when she gave him away. He remembers everything. She’s crying now but how many times has he cried??
Exactly. He was 6. I know I remember ALOT from when I was 6. I can’t imagine my mother giving me up being one of those memories. My heart really hurts for Genesis
Bruh he talking facts though. He in jail watching her on TV, Doin her body, Going out to parties, Livin a hype life, And she couldn't find time to visit him in adoption or in jail nor even give him a PHONE CALL! She ain't do enough.
This makes me think about how it will be when I meet my son I have him up for adoption at birth but I have an open adoption this spring break I should be meeting him he’s now 12 I’m so nervous but excited to see him in person!.
@@mikophobic I respect the choice she made because it was a selfless one. Now that doesn't mean I respect her acting as if they OWE her. They meaning Genesis does not have to be cool with her. He doesn't have to say anything to her until he's ready.
Truth is Sky is broken herself. She cannot process love because she never REALLY knew what it was. She never REALLY knew how to give or receive it. Hurt people HURT people.
This is all I keep seeing! She is messed up herself. She let them go because she thought it was better than them watching her struggle to give them something she knows nothing about!
but why reach out to only hurt him more? she’s not even trying to understand he just wanted a phone call from her, he don’t fault her for giving him up, he faults her for going no contact
Nolan Harris understood. But that’s not the problem. The problem is that she never bothered to come look for them again when she got better. That’s their problem. Some people use that as an excuse.. I believe in this case that Sky didn’t want to do better. She preferred her freedom.
@@YourGraceMyLady but she lied because Genesis was 21 on that episode. So 3 years before that when he was 18 she was too busy being a bully and a hateful mean girl on Black ink. Her money went on her surgeries. Dez is turning 18...as they are not twins ...another lie.. and they do not have same father... and Dutchess didnt push Genesis up to do anything.. that spoke from his own heart. He just wants her to take accountability... and preferably she should do it off camera. What's stopping her? Why hasn't she tried to be real with her son and really move past this. We dont need a front row seat. Be real.!!!
@@orionb5217 it’s like you didn’t watch the episodes, because in one of the episodes she said she had those kids at 14!, 14 is a very young age for a girl to have kids and since she couldn’t take care of them, by her self she had to raise them up for adoption since her mom wasn’t there for them either. She had a pretty harsh life you know.
@@zaria.vibess1474 but that would make her 20 years old when she gave them up.. if she did it for the first 6 years it must not have been that hard 🤷🏽♀️ but I think she went to jail that’s why she did it, it was tough to change her ways
It's the same with my father. My mom says I have my father's mannerisms from hand movement s to the way my eye brows move when I'm angry. I say I'm nothing like him meaning I won't hurt people on purpose but I have hurt a few people. It's about embracing who you are as an individual but also recognizing that you inherit those traits of a person you dislike.
Dez is like a Teddy, just adorable. His character is calm, and he listens and is well mannered. Most young people have issues with listening and manners... LOL.
Well manners... Where when he try'ed to hit her the 1st time try'ed to fight folks. FUk him. His still a kid a grown man knows who to control his anger.
TIMECODES
0:00 - Ceaser meets with Genesis (S6 E12)
6:58 - Sky, Gensis and Ceaser meet (S6 E14)
13:34 - Des visits Sky (S6 E21)
16:39 - Sky goes to Des’ graduation (S7 E02)
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i like the last 2 parts .
VH1 thx 💕
@@imanicochran4302 Facts
At 8:30 you can tell he has so much to say I just really wish he would say it I think it would do him good to just let it out and confront Sky
Genesis is angry, he’s hurting. Lord help him. Poor baby, this broke my heart.
Ashley Love U RIGHT IT BROKE MY HEART I HAVE TWO SONS. THAT IS IT...MY TWO BOYS IS MY PRINCE...I LOVE THEM MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD.... I NEVER CURSED INFRONT OF MY BOYS...ONE IS 27 years old AND MY LAST BABY IS 14 YEARS OLD... I LOVE MYSELF FIRST, THEN I LOVE OTHERS ...THAT IS HOW I WAS READY TO HAVE MY FIRST SON, THEN THE LAST SON....
Yrs. And that sky lady didn't give him a chance. She was so dhort with him. Called him names. Like he's the one who fucked up!! I don't like her at all.
Michael Robins You are vile.
If you know that he's hurt why are you cursing him out come on bkack women cut that out.
I'm glad she come to see him but still that's fucked up and i understand she's hurt but still.
Genesis wasn’t mad. He was hurt. His heart held in that feeling of neglect went she walked off that day and he was never able to heal. And I feel that.
Genesis is just very hurt that she didn't try to really reach out after 15 years he feels like nothing was stopping her from reaching out after 15 years there's a stairs a phone there's the internet there's a lot of s*** that she could have did to reach out to him That's why he's deep down hurt That's how I felt when I finally got to speak to my real father.
Cozmic Carma yasss
I feel the pain too it's real
R c u on m and a hard time with it I can find out what the hell are going on vacation time to talk with her husband and dad
peeewee Pritchett ???
Her son is holding her accountable and she can't stand it.
she is putting her feelings above his
Exactly! That first scene of the oldest talking to cease ...if there was ever a real tv moment, this was it. When he spoke about being in jail watching his mom. My heart just bleed 🤧
Right....its all about bringing someone's demises to their face..she wants him to just understand and welcome her with open arms.....
Exactly
Exactly
Genesis is so hurt. He is also a replica of his momma. 🤣 attitude, temperament, and everything.
Exactly! And that's what makes my heart bleed for him the most
Genesis is her karma. 😊
Right. At the end of the day if she kept him they would have helped each other through life. Prolly would have been extremely close
And now he a hot mess running around Vegas .
Genesis sees past the cameras and he ain’t wit it....
Facts 💯
Absolutley!!!
Nicole Raheem thts watt happen wen u hang in the hood Nd been to jail , nuthin but rough niggas 💪🏽😍 Nd trust they love hard
True
I like that bout em let you know bruh ain't gone switch up or go Hollywood
Genesis is still that little boy trying to understand why his Mother walked away and never looked back. He made me tear up when he started crying 😢.
@Christian Babis right!
Yeah that broke my entire heart
@@erinstojkov9300 me to I love sky but this just hurts me
She was literally only 14 years old when she got pregnant by a 28 year old ...you don’t have to like her but just understand her story
@@ch34pk1lls7 No excuses I know women who had kids younger and turnt out okay
Ceaser seems to be the only one who’s truly trying to understand him
Nah if he understood him he would understand why he’s hurt. He wouldn’t think Sky is even in the right. Regardless if that his mom.
Facts @spiritedprincess
@@spiritedprincess4509 i think he understands y he's hurt but sky is his friend and he understand her as well but sky need therapy yo it's seems like she's jus like her mother and she don't know how to love cause she never received love from anyone and she need to fix that if she want to make amends with her son's
because he is a FATHER and a Man when blk women say i don't need a n*** for ish well your children do
trint rivera he not trying to understand Genesis!! Caesar is Sky’s enabler, and tryna play peacemaker for the camera!
I can’t imagine how Genesis felt at 6 years old. That’s literally the most heart shattering thing ever
I got a 6yr. Old nephew and they remember, they really don't be forgetting nothing. Leaving him after raising him for 6yrs. Is hurtful.
Why she make it seem like they were babies
At 6 yrs old you don't remember stuff like that I WAS 6 AND DONT REMEMBER NOTHING LIKE PEOPLE NEED TO STOP UNLESS THEY WERE EXACTLY THERE LIKE FRFR
Imagining being a 6 year old and "where's mommy?" Becomes a permanent question. That hurts, wow
Right. At 6 your mom can yell at you and you’d still want her to comfort you. 😢😢
When Gen said “All I wanted was a phone call” breaths slowly into a cry..
I cried 😩🤧💔
Me too😩No 🐂💩💯
I know!!!! That's years of pain
Heartbreaking
Now this comment posses me off
@Deez Nutsz A lot of moms don't begin motherhood single. Sky made the decision to abandon and give up her son. Not every single mom is neglectful and abusive.
When Gen took them glasses off and moved that table tf out the way..... that was not tv....
KirbyKirbz exactly! Cesar got scared 😂
Tandrine Bray he was like wait hold on lol 😂
Facts. When I seen that part for the first time, I’m over here thinking they was gonna start throwin punches.
Tandrine Bray Ceasar was like “hold on now... 👀”
@@ninedeuce8123 Ceasar loves Sky, I dont think he'd fight Gensis, nor let it get to that point.
Genesis is the only person who tells sky what she needs to be told
Anna Kolee no that’s not true she could of made her kids struggle but she made the right decision y’all people don’t understand some mothers actually try and do good for their kids and I know this because I don’t have my birth mom in my life .
Jazell !!! I do understand mothers try their best. I’m a mother myself, a young one at that, doing much better and making more effort than some moms at age 30, so don’t come at me with the bullshit. Sky is just a trash mother and an overall trash person in general. Don’t make excuses for trash people because there aren’t any. If it were a man, would that put it in better perspective for you? There’s deadbeat dads and moms. Genesis tells sky what everyone wants to tell sky but can’t because she’s a fucking lunatic and mentally fucked up
Jazell !!! You not having a mother should make you better understand. You grew up with a dead beat and motherless, why defend it?
Anna Kolee right
Genesis is a mirror of his mother. He got mama issues and so do she. The same thing she doing to her kids is the same thing her mother did too her with the exception of being put up for adoption.
Genesis is hurting just like her for not having a mom. She hurt cause her mama not mothering her which in turn she don't know how to mother her own children. It's a generational curse of being a motherless child. He expresses the same hurt she has but he gives it to her raw cause she deserves it. That's her all over again
Every child deserves A parent, but not every parent deserve A child
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He was broken to the point where he was struggling to talk 😩💔
He did and that what makes it hurt. When you're abandon and you're being mistreated and mislead and you keep thinking is if my mom was here I wouldn't be going through this. You blame your bio parent instead of the person mistreating you. She had no grounds to be mad or disrespectful. She needed to humble herself.
He is hurt. He wants answers. He doesn't understand. She needs to say why over and over. She never looked back.
delina nemariam
Poor baby boy she left him n still doesnt get it
Imagine all the different ways karma is gonna get her ass after hurting this poor soul..
You want him now because things are good. But he wanted you when things were bad. That's why you don't get it
Barry Sakr 💔💔
Barry Sakr yup
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Exactly😢😢😢
Barry Sakr but still the same time she didn’t want to take those kids through some shot they ain’t need to be going through
He scares me. His pain is dark and deep. He be too calm. Cesear looked shook. I just think he wants her to admit she shouldn’t have done it as a mom, because then he won’t feel as crazy.
It's Eboni Hey goergous how are you doing thanks for being a fan of mine
Right her denying she did him wrong is really stopping them from moving forward
You can tell when looking at Genesis he’s like a dark cloud. But it’s not his fault for how he is, others are accountable for that and Sky is one of them cause he was old enough to remember what happened
I felt scared for Caesar too 😬
😂😂😂😂Cesear definitely know , the demon is in him.
The fact he watched her behind the cell having her freedom to “make her life better” and never a phone call from her, really just shows how we need to break these generational curses 😔
The fact he watched her behind the cell having freedom to make life
Y’all gotta realize she DID stated the fact she wasn’t sure if the kids would even WANT to see her, she was worried about how they would react to her ruining their dynamic with their new family and kept them and THERE feelings in mind. Either way they all didn’t deserve that and I actually think sky made the right decision since she was struggling and knew people who could take care of them. She did what she felt was right by putting them in a family she knows they would be loved and adored in.
@valencia6973 She had 15 years to pick up a phone, and then she kept making everything about her even telling him i hate you becausehe didn't respond to her the way she wanted him to
He was waiting for her to explain why she gave him up.... not bond with him on their similarities. He needs an explanation to move forward...
Her first words to him should’ve been: I’m sorry for leaving you.
But her pride, and guilt...
Disgusting
A lot of women are like that , narcissism
Yup! 👏🏽
Correct
Exactly!!!!
She should have apologized!
He's so above when it comes to emotional intelligence. When he moved the table separating them, that moved me in my soul.
Yep! Emotional intelligence is underrated
It's what You make it 😭😭😭😭😭
Lol cease was sacred! He was like woah
Same! Cease ole scared ass was like “woah wait a min” but I knew he was moving that table so cease could get a deeper genuine convo out of him
she approached this situation so badly. i really think she doesn’t fully understand all the damage she caused and she took absolutely no accountability. horrible.
exactly, its as if she wants him to run to her with open arms, all happy and everything when the boy is traumatized by the abandonment. She doesn't see that part. I was so mad when she started shouting at him, she's too impatient. And you can't heal trauma with impatience. It's clear that the boy had a lot of resentment towards her and she didn’t see that.
Exactly. Cause her son doesnt need to say much. He wants to listen and thats why he keeps showing up. But she not saying the right things and he dont want to hear the BS at the end of the day. She wasn’t coming correct at all.
Adoption ain't the problem, but staying out of contact for soooo long is what really hurt him, I totally understand what he's feeling
Do yall not understand a closed adoption? You're not allowed to reach out to them until they're 18. She said she checked up on them throughout the years. Is she perfect, no. But she was mentally and still is mentally messed up. She never can't with those issues. It's pain on both sides.
Unpopular opinion but i have the same pfp for my instagram
@@rondagreen1217 coolll💙💙💗
And she adopted him at 6 YEARS OLD so he remembers his momma
@@justshellyhughes4541 then it sounds like the problem was that she chose a closed adoption when he was 5 or 6 years old instead of an open one. If he were younger and didn’t already have a developed attachment to her and memories, a closed adoption would’ve been fine, cause he wouldn’t feel abandoned.
That boy is hurting an you can see the fire in his eyes.
Her and her mama terrible . The guy is too because he's pretending as if it's okay on her side too. Did you notice at the end they even have the grandma in the back going to the other son graduation Genesis never mentioned nothing about any side of a family so nobody on her side of the family contacts him.what's the grandma excuse for 15 years of no contact we already heard their moms lame excuse lol
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@@charismaedwards5295that’s crazy af
When Genesis said “i don’t know you so stop playing with me” I knew those words hit differently.🤒
Hey goergous,how are you doing thanks for being a fan of mine
@@ceaseremanuel7345 stop being a wierdo , this aint even ceaser
@@allystoverr1867 is this man trying to pose as ceaser?😂
@@ceaseremanuel7345 LMFAOOOOOO
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The fact she hasn't bothered meeting her son, then when she does she does it on a TV show... it's disgusting.
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Thats what im saying
Wow I watch baddies & she was the peacemaker always showed so much love to the baddies but now I’m thinking it’s all a facade the bitch couldn’t even show love to her own son bro
I fear how Genesis views women in general due to how he was treated by the most important one in his life.
Yes, they will always have some type of unconscious hatred towards women. If they don't work it out with that woman that hurt them it will always reflect in their interactions with women. I know 1st hand from my husband
but if she wasn't there how could she have mistreated him? i'm confused. Unless you're saying that he's angry cause she left and now he thinks all women will leave him. I think.
I alway say a man's relationship with women begins at birth and it starts with mothers.
Kenyetta Ready not being there is another form of mistreatment.
@@thatDarnnShay yes it is, especially when he was seeing her on tv and he got into fights for her actions
Her son is speaking the truth, 15 years .. she raised him for 6yrs... Gave him up and didnt look back , you cant tell someone to get over it Ceaser
Tasha Williams OK bye
Would you keep your children if u lived in shelters in n out of jail either the state will take him n u won't know where he's going or who he's with or u can find a good solid family to raise him so that one day yall can talk she did what real mom's do what's best for her children
@@selenajones3215 no. I would have my child with me in a shelter. It ain't the best place but he needs his mom. And staying gone while she getting new parts on her body is bull! He was real with that. If she kept up with him and sent him letters, that's a real mom! She should have know when he was locked up and that was the perfect time to write him and support him. He is right to be angry, but he needs to heal.
Katrina Bailey you dumb😒
Tasha Williams she is my mother. She will never understand her son pain. She was living her life and never look forward to seeing her sons
Omg she gave him up at 6 yr old and nobody talked to him or reached out?? I'd be angry asf toooo....
But she was young her self too
She was young too
Don’t make excuses. She gave up a CHILD not a baby. He remembers everything. She was a teenager who had sex she decided to have him so she should have raised him. No excuses.
Jay Frmct my mom had 3 kids at 18 raised us by her self some people jus different breeds
Tai Quarles exactly. They keep using the “she was young” excuse but she kept her baby for 6 years she was 19 she could have found a job or pulled a nene leaks and stripped. She needs to be honest and say “I loved y’all but I wanted to be young and have fun. I never got to have that”
The reason Genesis and Des have such different feeling is cuz Genesis is old enough to remember. He knows his mom actually struggled and gave them up and prob saw some rough things living with her while Des was born around the time she gave them up and mostly was raised by the adoptive family. Des didn’t really know Sky to be his mom on his birth giver. Genesis went through the pain of being abandoned and saw how his moms life changed after tv and felt all his childhood rage come up again
He doesn't owe you anything lady. You owe him and he has the right to be angry. YOU left him!!
Marie White if you listen to the end of the video you would know why she left them
Only a real mother would understand
Sybria Bey true but she didn’t even try to reach out to him in 15 years he has every right to be mad he was in jail watching her on tv and he ain’t get no text no call or nothing from his own mother
Sybria Beybmllmlllll pl I'll lol po
Ignorance is not bliss, that’s more like sacrifice and selflessness.
The way he kept hiding his face broke my heart. He still that 6 year old lil boy.
Yea so sad I just wanted sky to go over to him and say mommy's here 😢
Bruh the way she acts she’s still a child too in the mind. That’s sad.
this. he couldn’t even look at her. she should be sick w herself
Little boy came out infront of mom. Mom didn't recognize thats when she had him
@@orangebear09ac your a baby
Life happens
Your Feelings can change
He said it best "You Got new P%$$! And T!%%!$ BUT you never once came to see me." That's Deep and So Sad.
Wendy Canseco Where At?
Nya Harris 5:13
@wendy canseco it's crazy how you are judging her and u only know what's on tv so stfu
Wendy Canseco exactly!!! So fuked up...
@@kaylawatkins7841 girl shut up she wasn't judging her at all. She just quoted what the son said.
What Sky should’ve said was “Genesis, i know I hurt you, I know I did you wrong .. I wanna hear you … I wanna listen to you, please tell me how you feel and how we can heal this” instead of just spazzing out , no matter how mad and how much anger he showed she should’ve sat there and took it and listened 💯
Oh naw. I would've never sat they're and let a grown man disrepect me let alone my son and I'm 18 and I don't even have a baby yet. He can't even have a normal conversation at that massive age. Your mother explaining why she gave you up for the better and your just sitting there with a disrepectful idgaf smirk. He should be lucky he never grew up with struggle and scum with sky. She gave him up for the better. Straight up💯
Also the younger one can forgive and understand so why can't he?
@@khadijahbegum3546 and younger one could forgive her so easily cause he barely had memories with her .. she left them when the oldest one was 6 and the youngest was like 2 (or something like that)
@@khadijahbegum3546he’s not mad that she gave him up, he’s mad she stop talking and caring about him. everyone understands why she gave him up, no one understands why she didn’t speak to him for 15 years. you can’t avoid your own son for 15 years, let him feel abandoned then get mad when he’s mad at you for acting like you don’t care. I don’t understand how his feelings are so hard to understand. He literally said he was in jail watching his mom on tv…. with no call or visit from her because she left and didn’t look back. she was young and lost, didn’t know what the right move was, we get that. but her excuses invalidates his abandonment feelings. a child just wants their mother, struggling or not. if you can’t provide, at least talk to them. sky had no right to not try to understand her sons feelings and make it about her feelings
"Nah you feel like you lookin at Genesis" man .. i felt that
Right, don't compare me 2 no stranger
@@nishaduggins9132 But the fact is ...its all there . Even though they were strangers at the time..that personality is in his blood 🤷🏾♀️
@@yasmeenbeasley I agree, but 2 him she's still a stranger & tho they have very similar traits he's still saying I'm my own individual so don't compare me 2 her.
@@yasmeenbeasley Its blood , but NOT FAMILY. Its annoying.
@@nishaduggins9132 lol I know that . I was jus saying how ppl be saying they're not like that 1 parent that they hate when they are the exact replica.
I think Genesis just wants Sky to take accountability ....
Exactly. She keeps initiating conversation with the pity card. Like, we get it, she was in a fucked up place. But he don’t wanna hear that. Just take accountability and say SORRY.
Exactly most kids just want that
I feel so bad for him My heart hurts he right. You don’t live your life and don’t see your kids
Accountability, let alone denial, is like kryptonite to majority of women real talk
Defined
she doesn’t understand, she gave them up, they have every right to be angry.
Aycee Tate but even when she was older she didn’t try she’s only trying now and there upset there angry that’s there Mama ain’t no child gonna be all smiles and happiness when there Mama tries to be okay with them after that long and she just doesn’t understand the pain and the stress and anger there feeling rn
Aycee Tate she had a choice & she chose to do what she did & now it’s all catching up to her
@@tanyagregory7601 Right I understand were he coming from because even though she gave him up she still could've been in his life and could've said something to him but she didn't even call or text
Y'all need therapy the woman was 14 yrs old when she had them a single teenage girl!
Yall she was only 14 what yall expect her to do tf yall real.....
"He's not the only one hurting", she says. Yeah but Sky, you're responsible for creating his pain, he didn't create yours. When you become a parent, you don't get to put your feelings first anymore. Real parents and mothers put their kids first. Goes to show that Sky isn't a mother, she's just a baby maker. She had no right to get mad at Genesis. You abandoned him, not the other way around. I'm glad they cut her from the show, this whole situation with her kids showed what kind of person she really is and she's trash.
Wow, powerful point. She created his pain, he didn't create hers. Wow
I disagree cause imagine she did raise them he would been broken to because she wasn’t able to take care of them and they both are stubborn and get mad quite easily she couldn’t raise her children but she did the best she could for six years
@@indigoegundebi I understand she couldn’t provide for them, but she just didn’t even try to keep in contact with them. A phone call once a week, and bday or Christmas gift. Pop out at a school function at least once a school year, would’ve meant a lot to those kids! There’s no excuse, she was selfish!
@@indigoegundebi You DONT know how life would’ve turned out . But she made the baby she’s responsible for him .
Right
when genesis moved that table, ceaser was scared as hell . 😭😭😭
WestonCraazy lmfaooooo 💀💀😂
He was not scared. He didnt want anything to happen through him and genesis
No he wasn't
Not scared just wasn't there for that unnecessaryness....lol, if thats a word
Ceaser would easily whoop his ass he just ain't want nothing to pop off with him
She really expected her bio children, that she didn’t raise, to just run up to her all smiles and open arms like a Disney movie. And when they weren’t she cusses them out and belittles. I have no words for her. I feel so bad for her kids.
Crystal Aggrey exactly u said it right smh she’s a nut
that’s exactly what she expected smhhh
She was obviously hurt and as a defense she got angry.
She was hurt.
You can never judge anyone about a situation you have never been in.
You can't just judge people about how they react to certain situations, because at the end of the day we all have different feeling and reactions to different situations and circumstances.
When he moved that table Cease got so nervous 😂😂💀 “wait, hold on now...”
Cherise Davidson 💀💀💀💀
I think he was talking to the security when he said that
Cherise Davidson 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@deanta14 yeah, security be quick 😂
That part! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It’s a very big difference. Des grew up in a good family with loving people around him so he grew to love and be forgiving . Gen had a rough life and went through so much he had a completely different life and he’s angry . Poor baby 😔
The same woman adopted them though. They grew up together Genesis was just older and able to remember the experience of being put up for adoption , des was too young to remember so they just have different life experiences, personalities, and outcomes naturally.
@@tjiggs01 I agree completely, I don't understand where OP got her story from....They grew up together, but Genesis wasn't as well adjusted since he probably had more memories of Sky and her abandoning him.
You can hear the emotion when his voice starts cracking. The meeting with Genesis & Cesar almost took me outta here
Dev Ali I cried hard as hell😔
I'm crying omg ! I just want to be his friend
Sad & I thought Genesis was about to bang with Caesar 🤣🤣🤣
Yes!!
Mann me to 😢
Ceaser almost pissed himself when genesis moved the table
too be fair, I don't really blame him.
Isai DiRocco lmfaooooo 😂💀💀
Lmao it's funny y'all really think ceaser was scared he would easily whoop his ass
Lol...
😂😂😂😂😂
He wanted to reconnect with her without the cameras and she used their reunion as an opportunity for a bag. I respect Genesis feelings in the matter. It's an unfortunate situation all around.
U want your kid but you talk down at him. Kick rocks
Yeah that's all he wants how did she NOT know why he's mad🤔🤔🤔🤔
He's a disrespectful egg sac sky should've swallowed him when he was a baby not adopt him
@UC2_dtk9Y8ve-35jp5pXJj8Q tf is wrong with you...? you talking about Genesis as if your mom likes you. she's depressed and stressed bc of u leave him alone
@@FBicalll his disrepesct comes from his pain. A pain clearly caused by his mother. She cant be mad at him for projecting pain she's responsible for causing.
Sky DESTROYED her son. These are the disgusting type of women that get celebrated in reality tv and on social media. This is sick.
Exactly.
Frr
Very much so sad
Nah she was broken and did what she needed to at the time! She angry at herself and forgets that he’s not just angry he’s hurting he got pain…. Sky has to accept it and receive it… she can’t jet her emotions get in the way of talking… he doesn’t understand the WHY she gave him up cuz he loved his mom and all he seen was mommy walked away and ain’t looked back… she handled it wrong.
They're raising up monsters
He’s like a lot of black young men who are broken inside. May his spirit find peace.
hejeu Lüxēr well this comment is about the black men then
Not really black men , but people in general who gets given up for adoption .
I think what she trying 2 say is...she read about black people and a group of them are broken ...o......k.........i thought all races go through this as well.... Im just gone play dumb and go alone with her comment .... Or maybe she actaully works with blacks on her job...and is a theapy doctor lol... My point is..this is a uneducated comment...😂 ...i hate to see other races labeling 1 race... Dummies always make themselves look like an ass
Erm or just like a lot of people who are broke inside? Didn't realise one gender or race hurt more than the other 🤔
Excuse you!!!!!! I'm just going to forget I even read that because I know an adult did not write this.
Something really bad happened to him when she left
True
Yep
Faith Hope I’m thinking he was probably sexually abused
Rae Rae I agree and it annoys the hell out of me that sky had the audacity to be mad when she left him. Whatever hurt he feels and expresses she needs to take that and feel it because it’s apparent he’s been feeling it his whole life. She has no room to back talk him or catch an attitude-it’s literally her fault🙄
Ivory. Eve He probably knew she didn’t really care to hear his thoughts and feelings because she would of reached out to him without the cameras
Genesis wanted his mom.. not no money, no materials, but he wanted the presence of his mother and go through all hardships together. he cant comprehend how his mother can walk away and throw him away......15 years he keeps repeatin.. he really REALLY hurt
The messed up part is that she giving dez all the attention I feel so sorry for genesis all he asked for was at least a phone call and a mom 🥺🥺🥺🥺
@Allona Cole She gave Dez more attention because he’s more accepting than Genesis. That didn’t age well though 😭.
Allona Cole yaaassss 👩👦👦 family is first 🙌🏼💯
Yes something traumatic like that you can NEVER forget ....
Right and on his Instagram, he said he only comes on the show for the money. Other than that, he doesn't want to be around her.
Seeing so much of Sky in Genesis is mind blowing. She hurt him so bad and wants forgiveness so quickly, but her attitude towards him sucks so damn bad. Lord heal this baby please, wrap your loving arms around this beautiful child. He deserves some peace. ❤
her attitude towards both of them were so bad, she talks to them like they’re random men off the street. it’s really weird and sick, it’s like she sees no wrong in what she did. she’s the victim & not him in her eyes
When Genesis said “I’ll never forget the day she walked out on me” I felt that in my core. I still remember every small detail of the day my father left and I wasn’t even in preschool at the time. To still have that playing through his head while he sits in another home watching his mother flourish on tv and still not try to reach out....these poor boys
Being abandoned hurts. I feel your pain. It hurts so much and you carry that with you your whole life
I barely got thru that part.... The hurt and pain in his eyes is outta this world....I pray he finds Peace not for her but for himself because that type of hurt can end up destroying your own self....
I know how it feels my parents give me up and etc and forgot about me for 18 years non of them called or nothing to say happy birthday....but I'm fine now just growing and healing it's hard to cope Ik how they hurting so much
Her karma is coming. She flourished financially. But she’s miserable and going to end up old and alone without her own children. I can’t believe no one can see how demonic she is. Her kids are going to grown and flourish fr and she’s going to be stuck in her toxic old ways with no kids/ grandkids/ etc
No wonder ppl resort to violence
She should started off the meeting with an apology to him
Exactly! And been honest. Told him yeah she was a horrible mother, and still is. She doesn't know how to be a mother and probrally never will.
Yes, some accountability would have helped
And without cameras smh
itsbritt91 she did.
itsbritt91 But no she had to insult him and literally fight him.
That’s a broken child and a HURT man, poor thing😞😞 praying for him!!
I'm so sorry for her but i wishs her the best with her kids
Not once did I hear sky say “I’m sorry.” She could apologize for the damage she caused. Everything is about her and her sob story. The first thing she should of said is “I’m so sorry baby, I’m here now.”
THIS!!!!!
She was a child mother
So it's not her fault
Apologize for what?
@@altheadawn2531ummm okay? She didn’t stay a child forever..that’s why he repeatedly said “you been gone for 15 years”….what was the hold up?? You can call to get that new ass and titties but can’t call ya first born?? Make it make sense lololol
@@altheadawn2531you just like sky clearly. Where your sons
@@khariskweendom3625I agree
I love how ceaser didn’t give up on him.
@S W he need to be a real ass friend and let her know that she is dead ass wrong.
He never did that for him, if he did he would've confronted her and called her out for the fact that she clearly doesn't care about her son based off how she acts
@@poisonousivy7226 if he did that she would think he taking his side that what some woman think.
Sky was telling gen “I was on my own at 19” yet he staring at his “mom” who left him alone AT 6
Hurt people hurt people
He was 19 when this was filmed so it was actually probably 4.
She didn't leave him alone, he had people to take care of him. She had to take care of himself, there's a difference.
@@SoulSearch11110 so that makes it right
@@elfridjadearchive7827 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
She abandoned him! He is broken.. she gave up on him! Poor guy! His pain is real and raw!
gaylee mendenhall And shes victim blaming!
Stfu
She abandoned him: so he could have a better life than she could provide at the time.
She gave up on him: Never have she gave up on him. She keeps setting up times to meet and talk so she can build the relationship back up.
He could at least listen hurt or not dont agree to coming to talk if youre just going to sit there and not talk.
This is the consequences that many women create when they chose assholes to have a child with, because they think that they can change a so call thug into a responsible man and father.
she has such a victim mentality that she can’t comprehend the damage and trauma she caused! you really think you can just show up after 15 years and think everything is gonna be raindows and butterflies even though you literally abandoned him? it’s the DELUSION for me. and it’s so funny how she is still only thinking of how she feels and what HES not doing instead of trying to understand how her own son is feeling.
She was a victim her damn self. Respones and maturity is limited.
@@YvetteFromOuterspacestop victimising/defending her ffs. One phone call. Just one. Could call her surgeon but not her firstborn.
@@sarahhayes2147 she's a victim. I understand what you're saying... mental illness is real ..
She was a victim . She had a baby at 12!!!!
Sky: “You so handsome” 🙂
Genesis face: 😒
That scene had me weak 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hahahahah
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
IM SCREAMING
😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣smh sky smiling and giving sweet face.
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO
Lord, he is so hurt.......it hurts me. I just want to hold him and let him cry.
Me too!! 😢
for real. and hopefully that hug will take all his pain away.
Me too im a mom had 2 by the age of 17 and i couldn't imagine. When boys grow to be men who get hurt by their mom they can't handle it
I totally feel you frfr 😟😢 the beginning with just ces and Genesis made me cry because he is HURT HURT
You can feel his pain in yo stomach
He's not ANGRY he's HURT!!! BIG DIFFERENCE 😔💔
He’s both
Angry causes he's hurt. It's a correlation. Nothing is one-sided. Everything has details and equivalencies. When are ne sided thinkers like you going to comprehend that!
Both is possible
Theirs definitely a difference but he’s definitely Both in his situation.
@@tr3asurem3 actually hurt causes anger, this boy was hurt
They cut out the ending of Des and sky’s relationship. And the end of Sky being on the show.
She begins to fight with Des because she claims he stole money from her. Des barely even responds to her while Sky calls Des pretty much every disrespectful comment you can think of. Ending with “I should of swallowed you.”
Yeah this woman deserves all the karma she gets in life.
Oh wow. How hurtful
She said she should've swallowed him?! Dam 😢
She really talking to the dad
When he said I'm in jail watching you get a new body but you cant talk to me . I broke down . Wow
Me too it was true tho that hurts man
Indeed. I was so sad for him!
Yeah that has to be painful and I think if he she met with him without the cameras he’d be happy
Bruh💀
This was hard
Sky has to accept his pain . She can’t get mad .
Emily Brown right she making everything bout her
She’s hurt herself can’t you see that? Hurt people hurt people. She’s another Tokyo Toni smh. She needs serious help & so does he because he’s always in & out of jail 😒
Genesis is an OG...his eyes are emotionless
That young brother scary though. He got enough rage to kill someone 😳
@@nelixsulu6201 dat part
@Samantha Stevens for real. Being emotional and puttin on a front is two different things.
Sky n gen really are a spitting image of each other. From the way they look to personality, both hot tempered
She wrong for never callin and asking how he was, i understand his pain
Sukhman Bains Ya..I think she didn't want to think back when she was raped to have genesis..but I understand what u are saying
Why didn’t she acknowledge his feelings and apologize. She got defensive. She is despicable.
Narcissist can’t handle accountability.
@@miminotbovered2857 big fact 🎯🎯🎯
@@miminotbovered2857 exactlyyy. I have one for a mother and everytime i calmly try to Express my feelings for her as a kid she gets defensive and angry. These type of people need therapy
@@DrHen-xd3rv dealt with this too and still do, sadly she isn’t the only one in my family either. Deal with it from them also.
Ik I’m late af lol but I think it’s more because she is damaged herself. She wasn’t raised to properly express her feelings. She’s always been a fighter. So him not “coming around” made her get defensive. It’s not right but that’s all she knows I guess
You abandoned your children & expect them to forget everything !! The real heroes are the ladies that adopted him .
She was 15 years old that’s not abandonment I have a son up for adoption because I couldn’t do another child at the time. So don’t sit there and judge people.
@@michelleculver6587 if what I’m saying is making you feel some sort of way that’s your problem . It’s not judgement it’s the truth
@@lavianahampton4641 nope thats dumb if I know I can’t fend for my child I’d rather them be with someone who I know can that’s the best decision you can make yeah what skys doing NOW is very immature but that moment she made at 19 was a real mother decision
I don't care how hard it is or how the river runs i had it hard to very hard what you do for your children you call on Jesus and make it work i kept all three of mines together and did what i had to do.🙏🏿
So Michelle if you couldn't do another child y did you lay down you knew 1 or the other you were gonna get pregnant or not let's not get it twisted
Sky got an answer for everything but sometimes the best response sometimes is silence. You have to let him get his feelings out… he owes you nothing.
💯💯
Thank God for his foster mom. Not all white people are racist. Thank you Candace for raising that young man.
@Ash Wolf so??
This I just heae a woman call a black man a King it's about time what took so long to call us that it took for tge black panther movie to call us a King Finally.
@Ash Wolf A lot of black people have at least 15-25 % white in them , means nothing to
most , they still consider themselfes as only black mainly
(even tyga does, and hes half black half asian/vietnamese)
its rarely the case that black people who are at least a quarter anything else
considers themself as mixed or as part white/asian etc.
Letrice Warren u right he has a great Foster mom that take great care of him to be a strong young man. thank God for that foster mom. great job...
@@jblue88hoodgamer54 wtf r u talking about
Where is Iyanla when you need her?!? My heart aches for Genesis. Sky is still so immature. Smh
Kai Ro why was I just thinking the same thing.. she needs that toughness that Iyanla bring she don’t need no soft response, someone has to make her understand the serious of the pain that is there
Right we need her the family fixer
He’s just as immature as her. He turned Des against her smh
Kai Ro lmao omg I was thinking the same thing! Bring out Iyanla!
ms. angelιqυe nah she turn des against her
Sky's son said 23 and 1 and I understood his pain. He said he watched his mom get all kinds of plastic surgeries but she couldn't come and visit him. That broke my heart 😪
Janet Marquez what did he mean
by 23 & 1?
Crazy part is how he blames his mom for the crime that he committed smh
How would you know? You don’t know my life....One thing I do know is that every man and woman is responsible for the decisions they make.....And that’s why he did the 23 & 1 not his mother!
@@greendixon8924 wasn't he trying to state how she didn't even try to reach out to him when he was in jail, not that she was why he did that crime?
@@greendixon8924 he never blamed her for his crime he blamed her for not seeing Hime yet was getting her body done not know how he was doing they foster mom didn't say she couldn't see or call them she mad that choice I can see if that woman kept them away from her she helped all sky had to do was give them love and see them
I hate when the parents act as the victims but the kids are the ones who experienced the trauma‼️
Some reason the father skates on by... the magnitude always on the mother js
@@ForeverDrunkckoi bruh the father would get the same heat on the show lol. it's on her as of right now cause she's tryna get back in HISSSSS life.
The Dad is no where around d
She really doesn't get it. It's not about you it's about your son.
THANK YU 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 tht Bytch is a narcissist always the victim no accountability always me me I I smh she should of never had any children cause she dk how to Luv properly
Sky is a real problem. Poor dude.
She’s self centred and clueless
right
Yep
Love Des adopted mom. She raised him to be a respectful, loving, and caring young man.
Rii
Both boys were adopted by the same woman. So something happened along the way with genesis.
@@SamanthaD89 Genesis has clear memories of Sky, because she gave him up when 5/6, Des doesn’t.
Kandace, the adoptive mother says it was when Genesis’ biological father contacted him Genesis started to change. She thought the bio father’s intentions were sincere but they weren’t. I don’t think Genesis’s emotions were handled properly when he was a kid (because he remembers much of his childhood with Sky).
@@M.Elle- the adoptive mom was no better she’s a criminal herself she was known for scamming and committing fraud. So I do believe she played a role in Genesis going down the wrong path. Des was really taken care by the adoptive mother’s sister.
Yasss Dez is amazing
She’s more of a child then he is 🤦🏽♀️.
The first thing she should have said was “IM SORRY”
samahughes1 he is way past sorry, you can see he is past his patience with words :(
She should still say it. She is selfish. I can see that. She full of herself. Best thing for him is to be far away and just except that he is better off. She is a loser!
Exactly
Sometimes saying sorry after 15 years is kinda hard for him to forgive her.
Stfu
No lie this was one of my favorite moments from ceaser to me . He really came in like a real brother and stood by Sky talking to her son.
Honesty Dez has sky’s happy personally and Genesis has her attitude
Basically Genesis the physical embodiment of her additute and and Des the physical embodiment of her happiness
Victor Castro yes and that’s so crazy I’ve never seen anything like it.
@@Raelyski I know its amazing and scary at the same time
they both had different upbringings so that’s not really a valid statement.
@@BernieMaddoff yes clearly they had different upbringings it was just a little joke obviously theres more to them then one emotion of their mom and theres reasons why they are the way they are but it was just a lil joke not to be taken seriously
“He ain’t ever get to know me...” 15 years you didn’t try to know him, even when he was in jail. and in jail he was watching you grow and be happy. he’s not angry, he’s hurt and in pain.
Somebody said it!!!! 👏👏👏👏
Thank you for speaking truth facts
He is rightfully so hurt, angry, and in pain. It all comes together.
He is definitely wise beyond his years... My man said nah you looking at Genesis
We all are girl! It breaks my heart breaks for him the way he said 15 years! U're child in pain ain't noting u can do! I hope he good naw!
I mean dude is in his 20's the statement wasnt really a wise statement to be calling him "wise beyond his years" it was more of a hurt/offended statement anyone would make when being compared to a stranger or someone they dislike. And considering how he already made it known how he felt about sky it was dumb of Ceaser to say. Though I get he was just trying to lighten the mood
That statement was so true. Poor thing is so hurt and you can see he is basically saying I dont need to be speaking to you. He don't owe Ceasar anything. This just broke my heart thr pain in his eyes is so real.
She shouldn't have apologized first to him
Genesis's hurt and pain is deeply rooted. Sky needs to understand that and take accountability. So much has happened off camera that we don't even know about.
When he said he didn’t want no relationship with Caesar
I chocked 😭😭😭
This woman said “He walked out he didn’t even try to get to know me” honeeey, he just gave you a taste of what you did to them! People never wanna take what they dish out!😒
She was young she didn't know what to do she was in the street stop tryna down grade cause it's mom's out here who kept there baby and in the street now they kids in the system so stop
@It'sJustKenzie no she wasn’t she was just being shown the real world both of them are hurt y’all picking sides for what 🙄.!!
@It'sJustKenzie hey ok whatever you say all Im saying is look from both sides and she didn't have support she didn't have a stable home life and on top of that a kid
@@estherloyd4883 stop excusing her dead beat ass. She brought them into this world and they’re here responsibility. She abandoned them and only reached out for a storyline. FOH. I was raised by a single mom cuz my dad was trash just like sky. Genesis is her child and he has every right to be mad. She made her bed and now she had to lay in it.
@@estherloyd4883 there’s no emotions involved. A dead beat is a dead beat. Those are just facts. Sky is a dead beat. She reached out to them for a storyline. She talks to them like they’re strangers off the street. That’s a fact. Just cuz you like her doesn’t mean she’s not a dead beat. You have a nice day as well and kudos for your mom for not being a dead beat and raising loving and providing for you unlike sky.
That’s definitely sky’s twin
All media Access news in looks and personality. That’s why it was so hard for them.
he really is
She went all gangster up on him ..
All Media Access News yep
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That face Ceasar had at 1:28 when he said nawl man you feel like you looking at Genesis was at the moment he knew it was gone go bad 😂
You can't control someone's pain. You can't call him out because he's not responding the way you might want. He came and sat down in the same room that is progress.
She took it 3 steps back!
My heart breaks for those boys. He went back to that 6 year old boy.
You’re s right, she was right on him as soon as he walked in the door full of the excuses not excepting her faults. Wanting to get angry
you know im so confused with her tho. he said she raised him for 6 years. She said she was 14 when she has dez? either way was about 20 years old when she gave them up. how old are the boys. was she 11 when she started having kids. anybody know?
This is heartbreaking. That baby is hurting. He deserved more. Imagine being gave away at 5 years old and your mother never reaching our again. Meanwhile, sky thinks she’s the victim.
Came back later to add that Sky did not do the best she could do Ceaser. She didn’t even try. I was on my own at 17 when I had my first and had my second at 20. Still on my own. I’ll be got damned if I didn’t give them an amazing life. She couldn’t even pick up the phone.
U said it!
Not making an excuse but she was 14 years old when she had him. That's pretty young and she gave him up because she couldn't give him a better life.
@@mrs.c2793 yeah and I get that. However, not reaching out to them again until they were adults and expected to be welcomed with open arms by two completely unscathed boys is totally unrealistic. Also, let’s not forget the fact that these boys were adopted when they were 4 and 5 years old. Meaning sky was 19. She had a lot of time to make the decision of adoption or shaping up. She waited until they were old enough to remember and know her to give them away. Lastly, don’t get me wrong, I do think those boys don’t yet realize that they were very lucky to be placed with their adoptive mother because she raised them properly. It’s their anger and hurt (especially genesis) causing them to act out.
I’m not saying she was right It was a closed adoption if you know how those are then Yk that means no communications between the birth parents, the child and adoptive family .
@@ashj0 closed adoption you can’t speak to the adoptive family and child .
They should’ve had a social worker brief Sky on what to expect, how to react and mediate. I don’t think she was wrong at all for giving them a better life but there’s going to be anger and pain from the child when he remembers the abandonment.
She lied about having twins, she lied about their adoptive parents... Sky is disgusting. What mother just turns her back on children she's raised for 6 years? And then to get on TV and lie about them
@@mel...s woah woah we can’t judge like that homie we all go through this sky is irresponsible but atleast she came back
@@kingrecent1 she didn't come back she used her "twins" for a storyline only to further traumatize them in national TV.
@@mel...s Wow that hard ok i with u as this point
@@kingrecent1”Atleast she came back”…so does that excuse her leaving him at six and the pain the CHILD had to endure? Imagine being a child growing up without your mom. By the time you grown you become independent, got your own spot. It’s not the same even if she did come back lol
She had the wrong attitude when she gave her kids up and she still has it. That young man is allowed to be angry, hurt, and whatever else. He wasn’t a baby when she gave him away. He remembers everything. She’s crying now but how many times has he cried??
Exactly. He was 6. I know I remember ALOT from when I was 6. I can’t imagine my mother giving me up being one of those memories. My heart really hurts for Genesis
And the grandmother is shady af too. She claims she didn’t know this and that, but I don’t believe her.
Facts.
Bruh he talking facts though. He in jail watching her on TV, Doin her body, Going out to parties, Livin a hype life, And she couldn't find time to visit him in adoption or in jail nor even give him a PHONE CALL! She ain't do enough.
This makes me think about how it will be when I meet my son I have him up for adoption at birth but I have an open adoption this spring break I should be meeting him he’s now 12 I’m so nervous but excited to see him in person!.
He is broken give him time
I'm so Glad they made it Through! 😃
Karema Maylor time is not The problem
Karema Maylor YES HE TIME TO GET HIMSELF FROM THE HURTS.
Girl, he don't owe u nothing, plus u can't dismiss 15 yrs in 15 mins.
But she is trying!! She has been thru alot u can tell!!
Thank you!!!
@@kwajaleinneal2251 still it's us parents who's job to protect them not the other away around!
Orlandra Campbell Barrett straight facts
@@mikophobic I respect the choice she made because it was a selfless one. Now that doesn't mean I respect her acting as if they OWE her. They meaning Genesis does not have to be cool with her. He doesn't have to say anything to her until he's ready.
Truth is Sky is broken herself. She cannot process love because she never REALLY knew what it was. She never REALLY knew how to give or receive it. Hurt people HURT people.
This is all I keep seeing! She is messed up herself. She let them go because she thought it was better than them watching her struggle to give them something she knows nothing about!
Exactly, mfs really expect her to approach a situation mature, when she isn’t even healed herself.
Truth sky is baroken she cannot really love 💕 give to how or it hurts
but why reach out to only hurt him more? she’s not even trying to understand he just wanted a phone call from her, he don’t fault her for giving him up, he faults her for going no contact
I have a three year old son and I couldn’t imagine walking out on him. Kids don’t care, all they want is you broke or broken.
Sky likely felt as though she was protecting her children by giving them up for adoption.
Nolan Harris understood. But that’s not the problem. The problem is that she never bothered to come look for them again when she got better. That’s their problem. Some people use that as an excuse.. I believe in this case that Sky didn’t want to do better. She preferred her freedom.
Same.. my daughter will be 4 in 5 days and I can’t even think of just leaving her and not looking Back
*Sky bought a whole new body and NEVER went to see her children. SHE DOES NOT DESERVE THEM. This wasn't Caesar's Duty to fix.*
caesar was just trying to be a good friend i feel like if the cameras were not there he wouldve told him that sky an his gma are bipolar schizo
Omm
Fatal Bee she loves her kids in her own way. She was waiting til they turned 18, she thought she was doing the right thing.
@@YourGraceMyLady but she lied because Genesis was 21 on that episode. So 3 years before that when he was 18 she was too busy being a bully and a hateful mean girl on Black ink. Her money went on her surgeries. Dez is turning 18...as they are not twins ...another lie.. and they do not have same father... and Dutchess didnt push Genesis up to do anything.. that spoke from his own heart. He just wants her to take accountability... and preferably she should do it off camera. What's stopping her? Why hasn't she tried to be real with her son and really move past this. We dont need a front row seat. Be real.!!!
Amen
The fact she raised them for 6 years than gave them up and expects them not to remember that blows my mind
Yes! Exactly
Straight abandonment she was better off giving them up for adoption when they was a baby so they wouldn’t remember . It’s sad
@@orionb5217 it’s like you didn’t watch the episodes, because in one of the episodes she said she had those kids at 14!, 14 is a very young age for a girl to have kids and since she couldn’t take care of them, by her self she had to raise them up for adoption since her mom wasn’t there for them either. She had a pretty harsh life you know.
@@orionb5217 and since she had a pretty harsh life , she didn’t want to lead him in the path she was going.
@@zaria.vibess1474 but that would make her 20 years old when she gave them up.. if she did it for the first 6 years it must not have been that hard 🤷🏽♀️ but I think she went to jail that’s why she did it, it was tough to change her ways
She broke their heart. This is so sad. Prayers for all of them.
What’s crazy is Genesis thinks he’s nothing like his mom when he’s a lot like her
Crystal Garcia yes that’s so true. But he’s like her from past hurt and she’s dealing with past regrets
Kim Branch And I absolutely agree with you 👌🏼
It's the same with my father. My mom says I have my father's mannerisms from hand movement s to the way my eye brows move when I'm angry. I say I'm nothing like him meaning I won't hurt people on purpose but I have hurt a few people. It's about embracing who you are as an individual but also recognizing that you inherit those traits of a person you dislike.
He is her carbon copy.
Why she don’t apologize tho? Woman don’t believe in saying sorry or something lol
Dez is like a Teddy, just adorable. His character is calm, and he listens and is well mannered. Most young people have issues with listening and manners... LOL.
femylafi u right
U right about that
Well manners... Where when he try'ed to hit her the 1st time try'ed to fight folks. FUk him. His still a kid a grown man knows who to control his anger.
@@RoyRodriquez if sky was my mother I would smack her
Roy Rodriquez wrong son the oldest Genesis Is the one that swung at her.
When Genisis moved the table, we all know Ceaser got SCARED!
Caesar wasn't scared he just didn't want the situation to escalate and the process of getting Genasis and Sky to "talk" again go up in smoke.
I doubt it was fear. Ceaser is a fighter himself I just don’t think he wanted to be put in a situation to have to put his hands on him.
Scared of what?!? Lol
YO that scene had me dying
I salute shorty because he put cesar in his spot