Xbox Elite Series 2 Core Controller vs Elite 2 OG: Why I Love Them and what the Core SKU is Missing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 พ.ค. 2023
- Elite 2 controllers have a love-hate relationship. It is easily the best controller I've ever used - but every single Elite controller I've owned has died in about 2 years for one reason or another.
Still - I'll use nothing else. Why? This video will explain why I love the Elite series controllers and well bust open the Core edition to see what you might miss out on if you get the budget unit.
Note: While slightly embarrassing, it seems I missed the tension tool included with the CORE controller. It is located in with the documentation. i.imgur.com/MGl1cDT.png (thanks Teksone!)
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Getting the Elite 2 was a bit of a gamble, after the Elite 1 literally came apart in my hands. But I don't regret it. Playing Halo Infinite on it at the moment, great experience. I hope MS will eventually discover gyro aiming.
Yeah I have had several elite 1 controllers and they definitely were not built as well as the 2.
Bruh 2 years is what I expect a regular controller would last, Not a “built to last” model.. also some faulty stuff can easily be repaired by yourself. What really kills the controller are pressing the L3/R3 to often, drifting the stick and pulling the trigger harder than actually needed (specially driving games). I would hope for it to last at least 10 years lol, I wonder if the inside of Core version had any tweak. Good video though! The amount of goodies from the vanilla is great
Well, we'll be back in 2 years to see how the Core is holding up. L3/R3 are the devil's work. Some masochist came up with that. The paddles set us free from that nonsense :D I've never had drift be an issue with these. Never. What dies? The bumpers. Almost each and every time. My son's lost all the face buttons. Sigh.
the tension key should be in the core, probably packed with the cable/instructions. Refer to the "included in box" specs on side of box.
Really... I'll check it out. Thanks!
@@Darkuni yup, packed with the instructions. u r welcome
@@TheTekSone Retraction put in the description along with a pic. Thanks again.
@@Darkuni u r welcome again. Until next video...
Great review. Agree that back paddles are a requirement. I bought stuff back paddles for $16 and I like them better than Microsoft paddles. Great video. Thank you.
Word they better but I prefer scuff controller back paddle system
I could use two fingers to control four paddles
Hi, I’m looking to buy my first elite series 2 controller since the one I bought in 2016, which was the series 1 but back then there was a lot of button problems with the elite controllers. Have they improved on that or is it still happening?
So I've owned an elite controller since the beginning. I've gone through several elite ones and I'm on my second elite 2. Microsoft claims that they repaired a lot of the issues around the elite 2 controller. I would say that's probably 90% true. I had my first elite 2 controller for over 2 years before I started having a bumper stick problem.
If you could live without the trigger locks? I would check out the elite series controller plus the armor X-Pro add-on. I've actually been using it more than my elite 2 which is practically heresy.
Hello
What is the difference between the Material of R1 L1 keys? It seams in Elite2 is metal and in elite core is plastic!
The Elite 2 Sku appears to have a metallic "coating" but I believe the button is still plastic. The real problem with the bumpers is the mechanism with. Both are "not that great" - which is why I stopped using them at all (map both bumpers to the rear paddles).
@@Darkuni ❤️
Elites are good, no doubt, but personally I prefer using the Razer Wolverine Ultimate. Been meaning to buy the new Wolverine Chrome to see if it's better.
What do you like about it? Curious... I had contemplated that one at one time.. edit: I did buy that and I returned it. I can't remember what I didn't like about it but it was something.
@@Darkuni Well, I really enjoy using the mechanical switch buttons on the Wolverine Ultimate. They are very satisfying to press, and a big upgrade from the regular Xbox rubber-dome buttons. Can also press them faster too, which is nice. Second, I like the shape and feel of the controller a lot, it feels weighty and sturdy. The Elite also feels extremely well-made and very comfortable as well, so you could say both are even there. Third, I like the bumpers and triggers a LOT more on the Wolverine Ultimate, especially the triggers when in "trigger stop" mode. They feel faster and snappier. Bumpers as well.
Lastly, the matter of the back buttons: it comes down to personal preference and ESPECIALLY what you've grown used to, and I know a lot of people prefer Elite-style paddles but personally I *love* the centered back buttons on the Wolverine controllers. It took a minute to get used to them, though. This is a love-it-or-hate-it feature about the Wolverines, a LOT of people don't like the centered back buttons, but there are also a lot of people who like them, like me. You really need to try one yourself to decide if you like them or not, it's that kind of thing.
The Wolverine Ultimate's big weakness is its so-so D-PAD, but it was improved majorly on the new Wolverine Chroma, and they made it fully mechanical as well, like the face buttons. Also, this might be a deal-breaker but the Wolverine's are wired only due to Microsoft's propietary Xbox frequency which they don't license out. You can get a wireless version of a Wolverine by buying Razer's Wolverine "Pro" controller, which is marketed as a Playstation and PC controller but in actual design feels and functions identically to their Xbox variants; then you can use an universal adapter.
But if we're talking Xbox Wolverines they're all wired, and this is a big deal for a lot of people. It's hard to explain why I prefer one over the other but over long periods I find I enjoy the more tactile feel of the Wolverines. Definitely need to go to a store and hold one in your hands to test the back button design, however, it's not a minor detail. Can be the difference between liking the controller or not.
Oh, also want to recommend for PC the Flydigi Apex 3 controller; I use it on my PC exclusively and it is a fantastic controller. Chinese company. Also features mechanical switch face buttons as well as mechanical D-PAD. Excellent, excellent controller as well. PC/Mobile only.
John Smith I currently have been using the razer wolverine ultimate as well. I've been thinking of going to a xbox elite controller. I've had the razer for like almost 2 years and its been very good but I kinda want to try something new despite all the negative reviews I've seen on the elite. I'm shocked no other controller companies have incorporated the extra shoulder buttons razer uses.
@@aweigh1010 thanks for the very long and thoughtful reply. Now that I'm thinking about it the centered buttons probably did not work well for me. Plus I loathe having a wire on my controller. It was probably just a culmination of things I didn't care for.
I did get used to the steam decks rear paddles and they are definitely not the same as the Xbox elites.
@@sonofgodraj Oh yeah, I forgot to mention those. Yes, the extra shoulder buttons on the Wolverines are great! I always put LS and RS functions on them.
Acquistato bianco/nero ❤
Just realised you sound like Tom Hanks lol
Whoa.... Do I? Man, I have never heard that from anyone - or heard a resemblance myself. I haven't watched anything since The Burbs ... can you post a clip of him where we sound alike?
@@Darkuni 9:26 is you just barley
th-cam.com/users/shortsnu1pjRp1RJE?si=msc7LTIQjtwX480y
Lmao he does too!!!
I understand people are worried about money and 9-10 the cost leads reviewers to cloud there mind on the main question witch one is best not witch one do you feel better about like not one of these TH-cam videos gose into the spec’s of each controller like I understand what it looks like I wanna know is it good what’s it got inside how to use it to improve game play there’s a lot of unboxing videos it’s been out for how long and there’s no real techies
Give me a list of what you're looking for that maybe isn't on the website or on the back of the box. I'm not exactly sure what you're looking for.
Bro is the core better or worse then the predecessor or is it the exact same in you’re opinion? I’m interested but not in buying something that’s the same as what I already have
You’re talking about play function yeah?
Both have response issues with the face buttons when you need to press hard to make them work properly. Microsoft is yet address it from day 1.
I have realized that the original controller is the most reliable one.
So strange. I've never found this to be true.
@@cod4787 There is a "breakaway" point on the buttons you have to overcome, of course. Once you get past that? I'm getting 100%. I could shoot a video ...
@@Darkuni
I be more than happy if you can show me. Thanks.
@@Darkuni
There should be no breaking point. As soon as I hear a click I expect a response. It works perfectly with the PS5 controller for example and also with the previous gen Xbox controllers. Microsoft has changed the way A and Y attached the the motherboard but they never address it. I have 4 new controllers with the same issue : Blue , Red, White, Black and of course the elite 2 with the same issue from day1. The only controller that works perfect is the Stellar Shift which i bought today.
@@cod4787 Working great here. Sample video to show you. The click IS the breakaway point. th-cam.com/users/shortse7nYxJjl7KI
When you DON'T see the A light up, it's because I didn't get the click/breakaway (not because it didn't respond)
If you get this controller get the extended warranty Walmart has a good 3 year 1
That's a smart plan, actually. I seem to go through them 18-24 months if they are gonna go.
why are all the review about parts and not performance the core anologs are trash when it comes to in game performance
I don't agree with that statement. The fact you can torque them or loosen them gives them an immediate advantage; play how you like. Not sure what your particular issue is with them.
@@Darkuni they are not as smooth as other controllers it’s like they are restricted from movement just because you can make them a little less tense or more doesn’t mean they are smooth. You don’t have to agree or disagree it’s not even an opinion, I wish they were great. tbh I’m the kind of player who can play any game without aim assist and one clip everyone. Plug this cord in and I miss every shot I shoot, plug in any other controller I can’t miss
@@cody6584 Weird. You are a Playstation guy, right? Those analogs are practically like playing sticks in water ... like no tension. The Asus Ally is the same way. I am not a fan personally. I think all of this is opinion across the board on both our parts. :D
@@cody6584The sticks are LITERALLY the exact same on both models. Educate yourself son
0:11 - Q: Does it have Gyro ? A: No! Well then.. say no more.. 🙄😒
I'm with you. You see my ArmorX Pro video? THAT is my daily driver for PC Gaming now :D
@@DarkuniI've been quite disappointed in the Armor-X Pro and their Rainbow 2 controller.. I've got them because I was hoping for an Xbox shape controller with good gyro. It wasn't the case, the gyro compared to the DS4 or the DualSense Edge is not even close. It's not as bad as on the RetroFlag SuperPack, but it's still subpar.. I was nearly about to give up on 3rd party solutions or Xbox and gyro altogether, but just yesterday my Brook XOne SE Adapter came in and the gyro is.. ACTUALLY GOOD! Probably not as good as the DualSense Edge, but surely just as good as the DualShock 4. I was actually surprized. It doesn't have too many features, but it has the best gyro out of any 3rd party solutions that I know of. No latency that I can perceive. The only thing that kinda bothers me is that I can feel they're doing some "dynamic deadzone" at the center on the analog sticks and that in gamepad tester makes them look "good" with no drift etc. but in practice it only makes the aim on the stick feel quite bad compared to the standalone sticks on the bare controller.. You can use the adapter in parallel with the controller on which it is connected to, as a separate controller for only the gyro motion sensor though if you are bold enough and have a way to configure the 2 controllers work as one in certain games if you want to avoid the sticks deadzone "processing"..
you sound like Nicholas Cage
I'll try to work in a Con air reference in my next video just for you
Nah, who ever said Tom Hanks nailed it