It's incredibly ironic that the deception you point out is by far more interesting and often more egregious than many of the cases of deception discussed on the Behavioral Panel. I was frankly fooled by Chase for awhile since I knew nothing of behavioral analysis. When he started to talk about psychological, neuropsychological, neurophysiological, and neuropharmacological concepts I knew immediately he was a fake. For someone very familiar with these concepts, he sounded like a child repeating something he heard from another child or adult to sound smart or knowledgeable. Please continue to inform us of his ongoing deceptions.
I’m so confused, i understand it’s technically a conspiracy theory but uk ultra / project monarch is pretty well documented, seems to me that they were able to carry on the experiments from the 40’s more in gitmo and he simply wrote a book about it after leaving and started teaching it to business execs like many contractors or operators. Are you saying there’s no such thing as people who disassociate and have multiple personalities? Child stars, athletes, many people who experienced trauma along with generations on abuse seem to disagree. Now weather that’s commonly accepted science using the scientific method could be up for debate
Thank you very much for the podcast. Excellent and valuable work. It is terrifying how many people pretend to be experts, but in fact behind the facade of self-confidence there is only pseudo-science, mindless copying of other people's work and an inexhaustible desire for money from those in need.
explaining the "obvious" is necessary, because some of us do not have time to go do any kind of checking of people online, let alone searching deleted pages from the past. some of us just watch them when we have 30min to relax in the evening and it is helpful to get the research served to us by people like you. thank you.
Thanks. It is a good point. It's easy for me to take for granted things I've already spent hours looking into years ago, you're right about that. We all have our various areas of knowledge/speciality and I should remember that.
Very very interesting. I've spent years obsessed with NLP. I've even used it to dictate my decision making when dealing with people. There's so much evidence here that I've now got to really think about the people selling these concepts aswell as NLP as a whole! This has completely opened my mind to something (and some people!) I've completely and totally believed in. Thank you. I've subscribed and I'm looking forward to hearing more. The scariest part to all of this is how easy it was to find such a high level of fraud/ lies within the community and the people selling NLP as a concept. Wow is this a complete world view changer lol
I served a term on the regulatory body of my profession. The mandate is to protect the public. However, my experience was that they went after low-hanging fruit--going after their members for minor infractions rather than going after the kind of hucksters you discuss who are practicing psychology without a license and do present, at a number of levels, do pose a danger to the public
They are using intermittent reinforcement no different than people getting addicted to gambling or the way social media works to keep people addicted and monotizing eyeballs. People get addicted to hope. We heal, save, rescue and maintain ourselves, it's an inside job.
@@katreena1 if I thought I could spend $5000 and never experience sadness, discomfort or difficulty in life again, I'd to it in a heartbeat. I feel concerned about the people who feel the need to pay someone to teach them how to be more likable. What is actually making them not likable? Is there some emotional or mental baggage that they're unaware of that's influencing their every interactions? If so, a complex e book with videos etc isn't going to fix it. Well maybe for some but, what they really need is a therapist.
@@jupo9928assuming you’re being serious and not satirical, your comment is thoroughly steeped in irony, fascinating and telling of your personal baggage. It genuinely reads like parody.
YES! Why no wiki page? Why no in-depth biography? There are so many red flags!! I want to say more but I’m holding back ..Common sense evades a lot of people I guess.
There is so much gaslighting in our world. It is difficult to know what is real. With Chase, my BS detector goes red. With you, it does not ping. I love your videos. They are “anchoring”.
Chase Hughes is truly an International Man of Mystery who embodies, imo, "fake it till you make it" in a bad way. Anyone who saw TRS Direct ads in the late 90's to early-2000's understands him and his schtick -- everything from his RedShift Labs deadly fighting to his super people reading/influencing courses of today. (TRS sold video tapes promising super soldier type H2H ability literally overnight by watching and studying a few hour DVD on "secret spec-ops fighting skills". ) I wonder how his first wife reacted to his "Evergreen Girls"?
His first wife divorced him obviously. I don’t think she could handle the ongoing relationship with his second wife ;) I think there was a slight overlap between wives tbh
Fake it til you make it works on some level. You still have to put in the work and have a definite goal and make an effort to get there. But humans are highly suggestable, so yeah it can work, depending on how it's approached.
@@shanaynay333 Fake it til you make it is supposed to be about acting opposite of negative emotions and thoughts that hold us back when we really are capable of things, not about lying about your experience or credentials to get jobs/podcasts/offers/etc. that you really aren't qualified for.
I had never even heard of NLP before; now I’m eager to learn more about the good, bad, and ugly of it. Thanks for talking about it. Your findings about CH have changed my mind. I used to trust everything he said about himself and about human behavior. Now I take it with a grain of salt, because in my newly adjusted opinion, he is primarily a salesman. Every other identity-behavior expert, martial arts instructor, vitamin purveyor-is secondary and possibly fleeting. What bothers me is that I’ve seen him as a guest on other people’s shows and had a vague feeling that he seemed “different” on them than he did on TBP, and he told a story about naming a high price for a speaking engagement that was actually a normal business practice but still the story seemed off to me…well, I sensed all of that, but I IGNORED it because I was still convinced he was an expert Navy interrogator who is way more educated than I’ll ever be, blah, blah, blah. I used to think my BS-meter was above average!
Wow, I just watched your previous video of Chase Hughes and came back for more! I give you so much credit for bringing this to the light. I did my own research after listening to you- and my gawd we all have been shamed. I am thinking he had this top secret military career like a real James Bond. The dude was a plane mechanic in the navy? Wtf? He’s all smoke and mirrors! So disappointed as you really can’t believe anyone without researching first. Be patient- this is going to take off soon. I have seen it floating around Reddit now.
I'm pretty sure he was a member of the military police, or MP. His own description of what he did in the military sounds just like military police. Basically they are like a beat cop, with less authority. They are the ones that pull you over on a military base if you are speeding. They also do what he was talking about - when people are in the "jail" on the military base, someone has to be on hand to bring them water, bring them a phone to make a phone call, and that kind of things. He tries to insinuate that he was involved in military intelligence. I'm quite certain if he was actually in military intelligence he would simply have said so.
How do these BS artists get away with this stuff. Glad you're calling it out. When mentioned Landmark forum I thought eeek!!!! That's a scary organisation
Something very strange happened in their analysis of the Ashton Kushner apology video. Chase said he had a “conflict of interest,” and yet they all proceeded to analyze the video with kid gloves. Something was going on there and, for me, that was the first time I stopped trusting Chase. I was a crazy fan and Chase was my favorite. It was as if I was under a spell of sorts. I actually became a personal marketer by telling everyone and anyone about TBP and specifically, Chase! I trusted everything he said until I saw that particular video.
I think NLP is a device used to project an individual's disordered personality and alloplastic-adaptation into so they can maintain a fantasy that they are not disordered. Thanks for making this episode
One thing I find interesting is on TBP he’s the only one that emphatically announces the exact number of eye blinks even when they reach into the 100’s. It’s so convincing. I now wonder if anyone ever actually verified his counts? Saying someone blinked 147 times, for example, makes one think “wow, he’s amazing to have gotten such an exact number!” Who would ever question that? I’m now thinking that it’s likely he had an average, but tweaked it to almost endow him with a perceived superpower.
I believe it because they preview the clips. He can watch at his leisure in slow-mo and count them. Eyeblink count IS actually valid, IMO, and helps him look legitimate.
I'm glad you're doing this. I'm at the beginning so I don't know if you talk about his new "miracle cure" but the comments on that video just reinforced the whole culty thing. You'd think we'd get better at sussing this stuff out. I decided he reminds me a bit of Tim Ballard.
I started thinking TBP had become a cult and was interested following the cult followers development by reading their comments. Chase's recent comments about brain malfunctions, his cure, and how he matured late about age 35 feel like some sort of a long range setup/plan on his part to continue bamboozling his followers.
Why does anyone in the first place want to hypnotize and control other people unless you have a dark agenda? Why teach those things to anybody unless for money, or for real occupational reasons mayby?
Also, what happens if this information falls into the wrong hands? What if a criminal buys this book and is able to lure in even more victims? What responsibility does Chase hold towards that type of situation?
Sorry for the multi messaging, hopefully TH-cam allows them. For the person who benefited from the confidence programme, was likely going to benefit. In terms of stages of change (ie Transtheoretical Model) they were engaged and at the right stage to make a change.
Yes, I agree with that, for a lot of cases. It's like: if you're going to far as to pay a lot of money and dedicate time to (for example) being more confident or being more persuasive (or whatever) chances are you'll start to be more successful at that just by the commitment, no matter what the training/content is like (esp for more softer skill things that are mainly about just practicing something and repeating it).
I wanted to add that i had just finished viewing chase talking about his brain crap and was going to tell my friend whos dieing in hopes of helping him. Just then your 2nd video about chase popped up and started playing, I cant thank you enough , truly. I hope you keep exposing people for what they are and helping people to see truth, you helped me for sure. ❤
I shared Chase’s video about how he’s healing his brain with my 23-year-old, extremely sick daughter who suffers from CRPS, POTS, gastroparesis, and more. We’ve spent over $200K to in hopes of finding healing, and I was excited about yet another possible treatment that MIGHT help. I’m so disappointed that we were apparently duped by someone I’ve truly respected.
@jennifersullivan9503 I know! It was giving me so much hope at first because I also thought the information was coming from a reliable & serious person. Utterly dissapointed but glad I found out before giving my friend false hope. I can't understand why he's promoting anything that is targeting desperate people in need of a cure. How evil he must be . All four of those behavior panel guys must be phoneys & conmen. Hopefully everyon̈e will see this and stop trusting those liars. Michael Tellinger has some great info. about healing the body with frequency that you mite look into for your daughter. God Bless! Xoxo
My CH BS meter went off when I read his book, 6MX. It felt like I was in an infomercial and I was reminded of R. Cialdini’s book that lists the 6 principles of influence. They’re all in there.
Thank you for your podcast. I do enjoy watching the people you were talking about.-no names, but this is an eye-opening view. I will still watch the other people, but with a slightly different opinion and set of questions
I always wondered why when they analyzed Summer Wells parents it seemed like they were giving them the benefit of the doubt so much. Red flags all over the place and they all seemed oblivious.
and my next comment ;.)... actually the first red flag for me was the connection to Dr. Phil. Dr Phil himself lies and does so many unethical things on his show, that I wondered that the Behavior panel lie into the bed with him.
@@sylviaopriessnig2514 I agree. I thought maybe they were all short of money, eg doing the TH-cam videos during COVID to boost their income and then Dr Phil comes along. I think it's symbiotic. He probably pays them, and they seem established and professional enough to support Dr Phil and his crappy "therapeutic" ideas.
@@sylviaopriessnig2514 the video they did on the Ramseys was strange to me. It felt disingenuous. But they were also lacking key information regarding the case, which they admitted to because they didn't know the background, so anything they said was going to be skewed or biased.
Greg and Mark are the only ones on the show with the real work experience, and resumes to back up what they say. Greg seems to have uad the type of military career/ job in the military that Chase wants everyone to think he had.
1:08:20 To me that's the absolute biggest most important point, the reason I hung in to the end. All these "behavior experts" didn't see through Chase. It doesn't say much for their "expertise".
I’ve been involved in NLP since the 1990’s and agree with most of the points you raise. In my opinion 80% of what’s taught in NLP trainings is bullshit. The remaining 20% is useful material but you have to really dig to find it.
Thanks, yeah mostly agree with that. I did learn some interesting things from it and there were interesting ideas to explore (although of course a lot of those ideas aren't specific to NLP but they did present the chance to learn about them)
Are you planning to do any coverage on his recent content on experiencing brain disease and his own indications of memory/ identity loss? He indicated needing to document his own brilliance before it's lost, which seemed an odd context to me. It was excellently presented though, captivating.
I started thinking TBP had become a cult and was interested following the cult followers development by reading their comments. Chase's recent comments about brain malfunctions, his cure, and how he matured late about age 35 feel like some sort of a long range setup/plan on his part to continue bamboozling his followers. Really sucking up sympathy from the fans. They will become extremely protective of him. If Chase actually has the skills he says he has, is he now practicing the same tactics?
I doubt I'll do much more about Chase, as I think most people can see what's happening there (with exception of his close fans and some general NLP fans). Honestly I've spent way longer on it than I ever planned or wanted to ha
Love your last line "we rise by helping people" Chase always says "we rise by lifting others"😂😂😂 Great video, chase also gave me always some "???", the lack of a wiki, the cult like audience and the book that do have fluff and puff in it
I've recently watched the DRVN podcast with Chase Hughes (Government Brainwashing Expert On How To Spot Lies & Influence Anyone). One of the things he says in the podcast is, "suggestable people are happier." I think this is a dangerous idea to promote, and sounds like something a cult leader would say.
Hi, amazing series videos. You are right calling him out. I used to be a fan. Just one question what do you think about his books? Like 6 minute x ray or the elipsis manual?
Thanks for your work for vetting some of these claims on the Internet. I watched Chase’s video until he claimed there is no other book where his information is in in the whole world that was a huge red flag. There is no way he read all the books in the whole world, thanks again
This is fascinating. I recently came across Chase Hughes on youtube after watching some NLP and Paul McKenna videos and he made it into my algorithm. I have watched maybe 10 or 15 of Chase's videos and, like others have mentioned, didn't take the time to do any background checking and just took what he said about his life at face value. Your video led me to watch your 'Angry fans of Behavior Panel's Chase Hughes lash out...' video and I have some thoughts. I admittedly have not checked your background online, but it's not really relevant if the information you are presenting about Chase is true - the facts are facts and I can do without the analysis. If he lied, that discredits him and his work. I have noticed that he has repeated the same stories on different interviews, but the 'facts' that he sights are inconsistent - in one video he talks about his seizures as the equivalent of dreaming for 3 months in 30 seconds; in another video it's 9 months for 90 seconds. There are several of these inconsistencies that raised my eyebrows and I keep seeing more. What I am pondering is whether it matters. What I mean is, he is clearly a bullshit artist - he tells the world this through admitting all of the work he has done to become one. He doesn't use that word, but he projects it by telling everyone that they can manipulate people, etc, and it is clear that he is experimenting with his tactics in real-time, and with great success. His intrigue with con-men and the Catch Me if You Can movie feel more like admiration than anything else. But, again, if he is actually helping some people improve their lives, I question whether the bullshit that he has spun really negates the good. It is logical that our brains are wired to make snap decisions about people and scenarios based on limited or incomplete nformation, and this can go both ways: you can get duped easily without deeper analysis, or you can be convinced that something is not what you thought it was (assuming it has not yet become part of your identity) easily with limited information as well. My point is, if he did lie about his past, that is wrong. If his snake-oil is helping people, that is good, even though his lies from his past are bad. So there is a calculus here to be made, not a black or white analysis. Chase Hughes seems to be almost like a real-life fictional character that has been created that we want to root for and listen to (I almost said 'follow' - oh no!!) because it would be great if even a small percentage of what he says is true. Knowing that he may be fake but parsing the potentially useful tactics and strategies from the true bullshit may in fact produce positive results in one's life. Thank you for your critical eye in this regard. One thought - the tone projected by using words like 'bullshit' and 'nonsense' in your videos does come of as hater/troll - I as a commentor can use such terms because I am not actually providing analysis, but those terms are themselves lazy, if satisfying, and less effective than using more definitive words like 'discredited' or 'clinically unproven'. I appreciate the eye-opening all the same. Fascinating phenomenon and I am eager to see how this plays out.
Thank you for this content. New subscriber. It takes guts to go against someone so prevalent in any field because you basically take on most of the people in that industry too. I hope your videos go viral so the word can get out!
Thank you! (although I'll say that guy isn't really in any "field"; nobody knows who he is apart from mainstream people he's reached via youtube and podcasts; he doesn't have a wikipedia and nobody respected knows who he is; your kind words are still appreciated though!)
Like many here, I initially liked watching the Behavior Panel, although Chase has always seemed smug to me. The more I watched, the more uneasy I felt. Something felt off. Thanks for shining some light on this.
I have a lot of skepticism about NLP, however, I do incorporate two NLP techniques in my psychotherapy practice because they are extremely effective. I think there are probably elements of both snake oil and genius within this discipline so it is important not to throw the baby out with the bath water.
Thanks so very much for your warning! I watched your first podcast about CH after seeing him talking about the methylene blue & how great it was on the podcasts that you quite rightly said had thousands of views ... & that it had NO side effects! I was planning to speak to my pharmacist about it for 2 neuro disorders I have, as well as depression ... I even recommended it to a friend, bhut also gave the podcasts links for her to check out herself. I feel such a dope for falling for this con. He should be in jail!!
I know absolutely nothing about methylene blue, but a quick search, shows that it has been used for decades for various conditions, and you can find a number of papers on it. Why don't you do your own research, instead of blindly believing claims by random youtubers.
I have multiple sclerosis and take MB. My GF can tell you the difference it has made with just my energy levels. Research it for yourself as there are many studies on it.
There most certainly are documented side effects. This is quickly found via Google from research articles and legit medical websites. Are they horrifying side effects? I mean, I guess that's subjective and relative to the person reading them, but they definitely exist. It's false to say there are none, simple as that.
@@Woodman-Spare-that-tree I agree. You can tell what they are going to say just by reading the title. They depend on making their viewers happy, so they "read the room" (which doesn't take more than opening your eyes and ears) and whatever the majority of people think is what they think.
I am often surprised at how easily people seem to believe people like Chase. When people are vague about their background or former job, that is a huge red flag for me. Scott Rouse, another one of the "Behavior Panel" has "trained along with the FBI, Secret Service" etc. What does that even mean? Trained in what? What was his connection? Is he saying he worked for these organizations? This is currently what you can find about him by using Google. The only person who on the entire Behavior Panel who has a non vague background is Scott Rouse. All the others seem to just be self credentialed. For the most part, these men all seem to be con artists to me. And like so many con artists, they have a large population of supporters.
I recently watched a video with Joe Navarro who is an actual FBI interrogator. He dispelled the notion of where your eyes go tells what you’re accessing in your mind. Chase Hughes is a huge proponent of this BS and uses this tactic to “analyze “ people and their thoughts. I hate to admit that I was taken in by his charm and confidence and have unsubscribed from the Behaviour Panel.
On Sept. 20, Hughes released a follow up video to his "My Brain Disease" entitled "The Dying Brain Recipe? My Brain Disease so far..." in which he dives into talking about Methylene Blue. I not sure if his brain disease was real, I honestly hope it isn't. However, I'm not inclined to believe his disease is completely real because he's already hawking a product to cure it.
I saw your last video. Personally, I was attracted to the subject as a PI (missing persons) as there are so many that go missing. It is not uncommon for those close to the missing to appear on the news, and it helps to see/observe them to try and discern if the person is missing due to a that person in the news, or an outside event (which can tell us where to search.) I followed along with the (BP) 4 of them before they were famous. Collectively they gave good advice/insight. However, the moment they went on Phil's show.. the creeps crept in primarily because of the treatment of the guests/family of the missing person. I am a firm believer as a sort of profiler myself that who is around a person can give an overall color to a personality type: Phil is not in the best of light in my opinion. I also had reservations finding that they could be teaching folks how to manipulate others, hide cues, and that didn't set right with me. I unfollowed them after a time. I recall learning about the Barnam affect in college (abnormal Psych) and it most likely is the reason they have most of their popularity (presently).
And in case it's not clear: I def am not saying all the Behavior Panel stuff is bad. In fact, something I tweeted months ago was basically like "If you took everything out and left only their statement analysis stuff, you'd have a really useful show" as I think the statement analysis stuff is so much more reliable and also just more frequently present than nonverbal stuff. How people phrase things, as Mark McClish has written about. Not to say all the nonverbal stuff is bad either, though; just to say that a lot of it is talking about high-variance noise.
@@PeopleWhoReadPeoplepodcastIt can be very misleading to focus on the noise. Thank you for bringing clear analysis regarding normal variation. A narcissist will manipulate data to control the narrative and it's sad witnessing the exploitation of people who are trying to self-improve. 😢💔
@@PeopleWhoReadPeoplepodcast I agree, I use some of it myself, but I also use the written statement that is actually more telling. Old-fashioned paying attention to statements and consistency wins the day.
Yeah exactly. It's like: there's so much information in that stuff (just deductions about statements and actions and patterns of how they respond and such), and then compared to that the body language stuff is like so unreliable/high-variance.
24:40 If you start listening from here, it sounds exactly like L Ron Hubbard and Scientology. He and Milty were the same vintage. Interesting...... Scientology does the staring into the eyes stuff too. Curiouser and Curiouser ..
glad to see some body covering this. grifters everywhere. there is a reason he loves the main character from the movie ''catch me if you can''. He was active duty infanty b4 he was navy. (if he ever was in the navy.) . The fact he is friends w/ dr phill is all we need to know
I looked at your channel contents first and it gives you credibility. He was pals with Dr. Phil. That should have clued me in. He is a smooth operator. Doesn't that make the who le panel in question? Why didn't they do the research? I questioned them when they let Bill Gates off the hook. They started it right off saying I know you're going to say we were paid off. And at the end I said you're absolutely right.
Thanks for taking a look at my stuff. I agree: it is always important to check people out a bit before listening to them. I do that myself (as it's just so easy to waste a lot of time before recognizing the source is bullshit).
I need to find a list of ingredients of Redshift with Neuridium expressed in miligrams. Anybody who bought it and still has the box or whatever it came in?
I think there was almost no one who bought it, fwiw. And I think even that person who said "I have 500 containers that Chase left me" may have actually been Chase himself (no clue on that though, just a hunch). In short, you'd be hard pressed to ever find it I think.
Excellent video. It answered a lot of my questions about this guy. I've heard professional therapists criticize Dr. Phil for not being a great doctor as he fails to put his patients well-being first (as evidenced by how he interacts with them on his show), so it's not surprising to me that he'd promote someone who turns out to be a conman. I'm just wondering if any of the other 3 guys on TBP show are legit, or are they all conmen? Just curious. I'd love it if you'd do an interview with Martin Taylor! I love Derren Brown, in part because he openly tells people (often) that he performs tricks and what he does isn't real. He discourages people from believing nonsense. I didn't know Martin Taylor was associated with Brown in any way until watching this video. Would love to learn more about the guy and what he does. Thanks! :)
Im a Hypnotist and yes hypnosis is on a small path between leggit and scam. I myself try to test things irl out before I claim that tere are true. If hypnosis would be a scam I don't know it😅, but I know that I helped some clients to overcome fear, addiction and some allergies... maybe it is just a placebo who knows
what is your analysis of the rest of the behaviour panel? even if they might not have any similar sharlatan histories, like Chase, is the general business of body language similarly reliable to NLP?
I think it is akin to drawing to draw blood from a stone. Nonverbal stuff is just so high-variance and noisy, so there's really not much that interesting to say about granular behaviors (there is a lot to say about larger patterns, but I think a lot of that just gets more in the realm of statement analysis; the things people say and how they say it, which is very different) but the incentives to produce content and get clicks exert pressure to say a lot more than should be said. And due to that incentive to create content, they'll basically be talking about a lot of high-variance noise that doesn't mean much.
I shared Chase’s video about how he’s healing his brain with my 23-year-old, extremely sick daughter who suffers from CRPS, POTS, gastroparesis, and more. We’ve spent over $200K in hopes of healing and recovery for her, and I was excited about yet another possible treatment that MIGHT help. I’m so disappointed that we were apparently duped by someone I’ve truly respected.
32:18 "But one would think that someone would have found something by now." The answer to your question was in the paragraph mentioning Richard Wiseman further down @29:04
I wonder if he was selling MCT oil which was researched by the Navy SEALS and does have some real benefits (ketones), which affects stamina and mood. I wonder....it can be refined from coconut oil.
Hypnosis is bunk. Again, that subject is carnival hype.. It's suggestive reasoning. I do believe however, that meditation and relaxation can help to recall details of an event.
For some reason, I didn’t need to hear much of Chase Hughes to in my mind, think that he’s a mega bs-er. So are his cronies reading micro expressions. They all sound like idiots. I’ve seen few first 5-10 min of these guys, I slide the timeline, to see if there is anything of substance. There is none. I just didn’t know guys like Chase were taken seriously by people. Chase literally spills out “I’m a BS-er” every time he opens his mouth. He also exudes insecurity. That what I noticed the most about him, how insecure he is. I wonder why people can see that right away?
just some vague emails saying "Can we answer your questions" and "we sent you an email but you didn't respond" (never saw it) and "you deleted our youtube comments" (I didn't). So far, nothing of substance or real interest, no.
@@jackiealltrades They didn't really. They wanted me to compile questions for them to answer, and I told them I thought it was obvious what they might reply to. And then I told them the main question was around all the claims to renown/fame that Chase had on his site over the years despite no evidence of that, and they never replied (that was a few days ago).
@@jackiealltrades I didn't get the sense it was a good use of time. They didn't have names attached to the email; they said things that weren't true (that they'd emailed me and that I'd deleted comments). I got the sense they were mainly just leading me on a wild goose chase and that, seeing how much Chase has deceived, it would be a waste of time. They never directly said "Chase will respond to this." I mean, if they truly wanted to address these things, they clearly could, either by emailing me or making a public statement or whatever. But they know that talking about it publicly just draws more attention to it, which they don't want to do.
@@laynicarterI would say he’s average looking for a middle aged man. He’s quite short, but very average looking. I think it’s his superficial charm, his confidence and maybe his feigned empathy that attracts vulnerable women. It’s mostly women that follow him
@@laynicarter He’s always looked too sad for my tastes. Scott Rouse has pizazz and Mark Bowden is joyful and fun. I don’t think Chase Hughes would be a fun date, though technically, better looking. He just doesn’t appeal to me.
Chase is a big time liar. I have done trainings by Joe Navarro and Dr. Abbie Marono and the information they give is all about asking more questions. Chase is all about definitives he said for his behavior table of elements there is 4 research papers showing each to have validity but we know that there is none in body language. He has also said that Joe Navarro has approved some of his concepts which isn’t true. I have asked Joe himself and he even said I have never spoke with him and know little. I would caution anyone thinking that he is 💯 truthful or teaching science based knowledge.
Thing is people who think they can hypnotise others are just being "hypnotised" themselves, because if you look hard enough for something you'll find it (or trick yourself into believing it). The prey here is not the poor people who these people think they're going to hypnotise, but the "hypnotisers" themselves.
Plenty of sunk cost fallacy involved with those who are paying for courses. They probably didnt learn anything they couldnt have learned with a week of focusing on nlp and non verbal behaviors on TH-cam.
@@sole__doubt there are so many self published books on Amazon that might as well be a copy and paste job from Wikipedia. When people encounter Chase's rewritten content it possibly reinforced the crap they've already read but in a way that doesn't look copied but is so complex they're struggling with it. I tried with his behaviour periodic table. To cognitively balance assessing the variables from that, and have an authentic conversation with someone is huge. Even watching a video and trying to assess someone with it takes a lot of time. I also think the more you analyse, the less you retain about your "instinctual" reads. But I don't know. I've not graduated his course 🙄.
Oh my....it all makes sense now. My spider sense was tingling MANY times watching TBP, and I finally unsubscribed about 3 months ago, because of Chase. Something felt off. To me, Mark is the most interesting and Greg is a legend. Scott is a bit corny, but seemingly authentic.
@@PeopleWhoReadPeoplepodcast Very telling... A man would defend his integrity and his lifes work if it was solid don't you think? Funny how his body language buddies didn't detect anything!!!!
I heard he recognized their facial proportions from across the airport and using his super ultra top secret reference manual identified them as like minded behaviorists.
lol. There is apparently a video where they talk about how they all met and how Behavior Panel started. Someone recommended it to me but I haven't watched it. Might paste that here later.
I have hypnotherapy qualifications, am a psychologist and I’m just starting a Doctorate in Coaching. Chase Hughes scares the sh!t out of me. Where’s his duty of care when a client has an abreaction and ends up hospitalised with panic attacks???
@@Happinosis Zero follow up. I highly doubt he cares about the aftermath. Maybe he has his clients sign a waiver prior to a session? Seeing as he has ZERO certifications I bet that waiver is six pages long!!
Ability to use the internet and research and think critically, really. I don't think any special qualifications are required to see the things I've examined in this and previous examinations. Your mileage may vary; I'm just sharing my thoughts, at end of the day.
There are many academic articles in support of the effectiveness of NLP and body language and some VERY big names and successful people that use it. What’s obvious to me is that you are trying to leverage the name of a successful man who contributes positively to many lives through his work - just to try to build your little channel by casting vague aspersions. Why not build your channel with integrity instead?
@@margotpienaar6654 Care to go into detail about the studies you see as most supportive of NLP? Again, I'd point people who have studied these things and summarized the research. For example, this work: www.robyeung.com/why-should-you-be-wary-about-nlp/. It's also true (as many have examined) that some studies that are claimed to support NLP are a) very weak/biased (e.g., some aren't really studies at all) and then b) some studies/research is taken out of context by NLP-promoters to make it seem like it supports NLP concepts when they don't. Just to say, as with most things where there are big fans, it can be hard to use the internet to quickly research these areas.
And I do see examining major deceptions as "building my channel with integrity." And many people have thanked me for this work in helping them think more critically about these areas. That is integrity to me; integrity isn't just "being nice" but about helping people think critically and avoid being duped.
So out of curiosity what are your direct claims that chase is lying about? Like that he is outwardly told a bold-faced lie about? I'm not arguing for or against him, I'm just legitimately curious. Has he said that he has degrees or certificates that he doesn't actually have? Or that he has directly said that he had a job in the Navy that he didn't actually have? It seems like he's very vague about a lot of things and maybe that's on purpose but what has he said that is an actual lie? I mean I don't know about that Guru website but if it says he's number one on it, wherever that came from he's number one on something i guess technically lol? I don't doubt that he has definitely done things to make himself look better than maybe he actually is but I just need a refresher from your videos on what his actual outward lies were? If you don't mind
You can read the synopsis here. He made all sorts of claims about being respected and well known in various industries and it's all smoke and mirrors: behavior-podcast.com/debunking-chase-hughes-examining-the-bullshit-of-the-self-titled-1-expert-in-behavior-influence/
Yeah. They based their ideas on Milton Erickson concepts/practices (amongst others). I didn't want to get into the whole backstory, which is why I recommended people look into it.
Greg has some experience with SEAR and latterly had a successful business career. He was on a BBC TV show about interrogation in the 2000s. Mark however is an ex actor who advertises himself as a keynote speaker and one time had a gig advising either the UK or Canadian PM on how to give an engaging speech. He’s giving us social interpretation from the world of acting and ideas, nothing more. Unsure about Scott. He was a reasonably successful music producer who one day surfaced as a body language guy, no idea how, and then having built some courses with Greg that some police came to, now says he trains law enforcement. Having watched the first video though, I’m shocked by the extent of Chase’s grift and I don’t think any of them have made such outlandish claims as him.
54:10... Aaaaannnnnddd there it is, I didn't know Mitozen was a chiropractor. Now it's ALL making sense. It blows my mind that "chiropractors" are permitted to use the title Dr. and all other rights and privileges of having an actual medical degree in the US, UK, other countries with government agencies like the FDA, NHS, etc., in this day and age. We did away with phrenologists and blood-letters, but why homeopathy, chiropractic, osteopathy, acupuncture, functional medicine, and so on, are still allowed to call themselves Dr., promote themselves as real medicine, sold at major pharmacies intermingled amongst actual medicine, and even reimbursed by national and private insurers. What are we doing????
Oh boy! The one who gets away on his own never knows of his isolation because he is always pleasantly accompanied by his own self… I’m not trying to be smart but respectful.
One thing I can't find the answer to is his, "best selling author" claim. I read a lot and am at the library and various book stores several times a week, I've never seen any of his books featured or even displayed. IS HE REALLY a best selling author?
I almost included a section on this in this piece. One thing to understand is that they use Amazon categories to make these claims. It just means someone's book was listed (even for a short period of time) as one of the top x books in a specific category. Which is actually quite easy to do, because there are some quite granular categories. Another strategy (which I learned about from NLP world back then) was to get your fans to purchase your books in the middle of the night, which would temporarily boost your book to one of the best selling ones in that category, so you could take a screenshot to defend yourself being a "best seller." And then of course one you start calling your book a best seller it might actually become one in one or more of those categories; perception can create reality. I haven't actually looked into Chase's books and how they're doing in various categories as I feel like regardless of how they're doing, my points apply. I.e., success in a Amazon category doesn't mean much to me. I could call myself a best-selling author because my book has been one of best sellers in poker/game categories on Amazon at certain points but the bullshit marketing stuff doesn't interest me. Seeing someone who is relatively unknown claim "best seller" status should be a red flag. Won't always be but will often be.
I just typed out a reply to you, but it bounced back to me because I mistakenly replied to the "no reply @" email. I'll see if I can retrieve it and post it here. Basically I wanted to thank you for your deep dive into CH, and your well thought out videos and responses.
I'd file that claim as marketing. It's common in most advertising. How many "#1 toothpaste brand[s]" are there?? Besides, "best-selling," if true, only indicates the number of people in the general public who've shelled out $$ for someone's book. But most of the general public has no training or credentials in the relevant areas, so what they support with their wallets is meaningless. It is not a critical evaluation of the veracity or scientific validity in the content. There are so many concrete and indefensible issues in NLP and NCI, this advertising tactic would be the least of my concerns.
@@PeopleWhoReadPeoplepodcast Finally found it: Thank you for your answer. I watched your first video with a lot of skepticism, because I enjoy TBP and a lot of what Chase says rings true, but as the old saying goes -- even a broken clock is right twice a day. I was blown away by the absolute BS Chase has touted himself and padded his resume. I often wondered how the other guys on the Behavior Panel thought about his claim of #1 Behavior Expert in the world, but figured that they're not roosters & don't need to strut. Now I just think he defends the assertion by silently & to himself ending that claim with, "according to my mother and my wife." Thank you for your videos. We need to call out bullshit when we see bullshit & I'm proud of you for doing so. All Best, Carol
In my opinion, it's not that NLP falls short, it's very difficult to find anyone who does it well. Would love to bring Mentalists into this discussion.
Hughes reminds me of one "Frank Wallace" who promised that following his advice would provide a "guaranteed income for life" from playing home games in poker.
Funny you mention that. That book actually inspired me a bit in poker realm when I was in early 20s. It's all a bunch of overhyped bullshit but it had a great exciting narrative quality that drew you in and made you wonder "How much of this is possible?" It was one of the early things that got me more interested in poker tells.
And, I think talking to Chase wouldn't change anything. He's clearly someone willing to deceive about all manner of things. What do you think talking to him would accomplish? If they wanted to address this, they could put out a statement/video themselves, but I think for obvious reasons they have an incentive to keep quiet and hope it blows over.
Ericson had nothing to do with NLP. Also hypnosis works, conversational hypnosis works too, ive done it myself. I dont really know what I was doing but I had people panic while doing it.
I think this is generally very well researched and presented, however, I want to challenge your rationale and logic specifically where you ask questions of the “Would that influence you?” nature. Clearly a lot of NLP and similar techniques (just like a lot of sales and marketing tricks) are designed to affect people subconsciously, so this line of enquiry is, by nature, flawed. Otherwise, great analysis.
Right. But I do think there's value in asking people, "Do you think such subtle and small things would interest you?" I think most people would rightly guess no, and I think that's the correct answer. Just as subliminal messages have been shown to be ineffective (or as to have such a slight impact as to be ineffective for all practical purposes; e.g., even the best subliminal message will be nothing compared to not wanting to do that thing).
It's incredibly ironic that the deception you point out is by far more interesting and often more egregious than many of the cases of deception discussed on the Behavioral Panel. I was frankly fooled by Chase for awhile since I knew nothing of behavioral analysis. When he started to talk about psychological, neuropsychological, neurophysiological, and neuropharmacological concepts I knew immediately he was a fake. For someone very familiar with these concepts, he sounded like a child repeating something he heard from another child or adult to sound smart or knowledgeable.
Please continue to inform us of his ongoing deceptions.
I’m so confused, i understand it’s technically a conspiracy theory but uk ultra / project monarch is pretty well documented, seems to me that they were able to carry on the experiments from the 40’s more in gitmo and he simply wrote a book about it after leaving and started teaching it to business execs like many contractors or operators. Are you saying there’s no such thing as people who disassociate and have multiple personalities? Child stars, athletes, many people who experienced trauma along with generations on abuse seem to disagree. Now weather that’s commonly accepted science using the scientific method could be up for debate
Thank you very much for the podcast. Excellent and valuable work. It is terrifying how many people pretend to be experts, but in fact behind the facade of self-confidence there is only pseudo-science, mindless copying of other people's work and an inexhaustible desire for money from those in need.
Thank you, Marek. I appreciate your appreciation!
explaining the "obvious" is necessary, because some of us do not have time to go do any kind of checking of people online, let alone searching deleted pages from the past. some of us just watch them when we have 30min to relax in the evening and it is helpful to get the research served to us by people like you. thank you.
Thanks. It is a good point. It's easy for me to take for granted things I've already spent hours looking into years ago, you're right about that. We all have our various areas of knowledge/speciality and I should remember that.
Yes!
Very very interesting. I've spent years obsessed with NLP. I've even used it to dictate my decision making when dealing with people. There's so much evidence here that I've now got to really think about the people selling these concepts aswell as NLP as a whole! This has completely opened my mind to something (and some people!) I've completely and totally believed in. Thank you. I've subscribed and I'm looking forward to hearing more. The scariest part to all of this is how easy it was to find such a high level of fraud/ lies within the community and the people selling NLP as a concept. Wow is this a complete world view changer lol
Thanks for the kind words!
I served a term on the regulatory body of my profession. The mandate is to protect the public. However, my experience was that they went after low-hanging fruit--going after their members for minor infractions rather than going after the kind of hucksters you discuss who are practicing psychology without a license and do present, at a number of levels, do pose a danger to the public
They are using intermittent reinforcement no different than people getting addicted to gambling or the way social media works to keep people addicted and monotizing eyeballs. People get addicted to hope. We heal, save, rescue and maintain ourselves, it's an inside job.
@@katreena1 if I thought I could spend $5000 and never experience sadness, discomfort or difficulty in life again, I'd to it in a heartbeat.
I feel concerned about the people who feel the need to pay someone to teach them how to be more likable. What is actually making them not likable? Is there some emotional or mental baggage that they're unaware of that's influencing their every interactions?
If so, a complex e book with videos etc isn't going to fix it. Well maybe for some but, what they really need is a therapist.
@@jupo9928assuming you’re being serious and not satirical, your comment is thoroughly steeped in irony, fascinating and telling of your personal baggage. It genuinely reads like parody.
YES! Why no wiki page? Why no in-depth biography? There are so many red flags!! I want to say more but I’m holding back ..Common sense evades a lot of people I guess.
You are so right. I did my homework.
There is so much gaslighting in our world. It is difficult to know what is real. With Chase, my BS detector goes red. With you, it does not ping. I love your videos. They are “anchoring”.
Feel like I've exited my fog now and gotta agree with ya 👊✌️
You have brought evidence to the gut feeling I've had for a while. I did my due diligence and checked all sources. Happy new subscriber. Thankyou.
Chase Hughes is truly an International Man of Mystery who embodies, imo, "fake it till you make it" in a bad way. Anyone who saw TRS Direct ads in the late 90's to early-2000's understands him and his schtick -- everything from his RedShift Labs deadly fighting to his super people reading/influencing courses of today. (TRS sold video tapes promising super soldier type H2H ability literally overnight by watching and studying a few hour DVD on "secret spec-ops fighting skills". ) I wonder how his first wife reacted to his "Evergreen Girls"?
His first wife divorced him obviously. I don’t think she could handle the ongoing relationship with his second wife ;) I think there was a slight overlap between wives tbh
Fake it til you make it works on some level. You still have to put in the work and have a definite goal and make an effort to get there. But humans are highly suggestable, so yeah it can work, depending on how it's approached.
@@shanaynay333 It also depends on whether untruths are involved.
@@shanaynay333 Fake it til you make it is supposed to be about acting opposite of negative emotions and thoughts that hold us back when we really are capable of things, not about lying about your experience or credentials to get jobs/podcasts/offers/etc. that you really aren't qualified for.
@@AwakeNotWoke5139 That's a really good summary.
I had never even heard of NLP before; now I’m eager to learn more about the good, bad, and ugly of it. Thanks for talking about it.
Your findings about CH have changed my mind. I used to trust everything he said about himself and about human behavior. Now I take it with a grain of salt, because in my newly adjusted opinion, he is primarily a salesman. Every other identity-behavior expert, martial arts instructor, vitamin purveyor-is secondary and possibly fleeting. What bothers me is that I’ve seen him as a guest on other people’s shows and had a vague feeling that he seemed “different” on them than he did on TBP, and he told a story about naming a high price for a speaking engagement that was actually a normal business practice but still the story seemed off to me…well, I sensed all of that, but I IGNORED it because I was still convinced he was an expert Navy interrogator who is way more educated than I’ll ever be, blah, blah, blah. I used to think my BS-meter was above average!
Wow, I just watched your previous video of Chase Hughes and came back for more! I give you so much credit for bringing this to the light. I did my own research after listening to you- and my gawd we all have been shamed. I am thinking he had this top secret military career like a real James Bond. The dude was a plane mechanic in the navy? Wtf? He’s all smoke and mirrors! So disappointed as you really can’t believe anyone without researching first. Be patient- this is going to take off soon. I have seen it floating around Reddit now.
Thanks! Yeah it got a lot more weird than I was expecting when I started looking into it, to say the least
I'm pretty sure he was a member of the military police, or MP. His own description of what he did in the military sounds just like military police. Basically they are like a beat cop, with less authority. They are the ones that pull you over on a military base if you are speeding. They also do what he was talking about - when people are in the "jail" on the military base, someone has to be on hand to bring them water, bring them a phone to make a phone call, and that kind of things. He tries to insinuate that he was involved in military intelligence. I'm quite certain if he was actually in military intelligence he would simply have said so.
How do these BS artists get away with this stuff. Glad you're calling it out. When mentioned Landmark forum I thought eeek!!!! That's a scary organisation
Yeh, I would treat anything NLP with a good pinch of scepticism.
@@Blacksquareable totally agree. But what a great marketing name for something :(
Something very strange happened in their analysis of the Ashton Kushner apology video. Chase said he had a “conflict of interest,” and yet they all proceeded to analyze the video with kid gloves.
Something was going on there and, for me, that was the first time I stopped trusting Chase. I was a crazy fan and Chase was my favorite. It was as if I was under a spell of sorts. I actually became a personal marketer by telling everyone and anyone about TBP and specifically, Chase! I trusted everything he said until I saw that particular video.
Wonder what the conflict of interest was?? Hmmmm..
It looks as if you never made it to his close circle of friends.🤣😂🤣
I think NLP is a device used to project an individual's disordered personality and alloplastic-adaptation into so they can maintain a fantasy that they are not disordered. Thanks for making this episode
One thing I find interesting is on TBP he’s the only one that emphatically announces the exact number of eye blinks even when they reach into the 100’s. It’s so convincing. I now wonder if anyone ever actually verified his counts? Saying someone blinked 147 times, for example, makes one think “wow, he’s amazing to have gotten such an exact number!” Who would ever question that? I’m now thinking that it’s likely he had an average, but tweaked it to almost endow him with a perceived superpower.
I believe it because they preview the clips. He can watch at his leisure in slow-mo and count them. Eyeblink count IS actually valid, IMO, and helps him look legitimate.
I'm glad you're doing this. I'm at the beginning so I don't know if you talk about his new "miracle cure" but the comments on that video just reinforced the whole culty thing. You'd think we'd get better at sussing this stuff out. I decided he reminds me a bit of Tim Ballard.
Especially with his female followers. I mentioned that today on BPs live. I called it “ Thirsty Thursday “
I started thinking TBP had become a cult and was interested following the cult followers development by reading their comments. Chase's recent comments about brain malfunctions, his cure, and how he matured late about age 35 feel like some sort of a long range setup/plan on his part to continue bamboozling his followers.
Why does anyone in the first place want to hypnotize and control other people unless you have a dark agenda? Why teach those things to anybody unless for money, or for real occupational reasons mayby?
Narcissists want to control others.
Also, what happens if this information falls into the wrong hands? What if a criminal buys this book and is able to lure in even more victims? What responsibility does Chase hold towards that type of situation?
@@LaraCross512 Yes, agree.
Sorry for the multi messaging, hopefully TH-cam allows them. For the person who benefited from the confidence programme, was likely going to benefit. In terms of stages of change (ie Transtheoretical Model) they were engaged and at the right stage to make a change.
Yes, I agree with that, for a lot of cases. It's like: if you're going to far as to pay a lot of money and dedicate time to (for example) being more confident or being more persuasive (or whatever) chances are you'll start to be more successful at that just by the commitment, no matter what the training/content is like (esp for more softer skill things that are mainly about just practicing something and repeating it).
I wanted to add that i had just finished viewing chase talking about his brain crap and was going to tell my friend whos dieing in hopes of helping him. Just then your 2nd video about chase popped up and started playing, I cant thank you enough , truly. I hope you keep exposing people for what they are and helping people to see truth, you helped me for sure. ❤
Dying*
I shared Chase’s video about how he’s healing his brain with my 23-year-old, extremely sick daughter who suffers from CRPS, POTS, gastroparesis, and more. We’ve spent over $200K to in hopes of finding healing, and I was excited about yet another possible treatment that MIGHT help. I’m so disappointed that we were apparently duped by someone I’ve truly respected.
Thank you. Sorry to hear about your friend.
@jennifersullivan9503 I know! It was giving me so much hope at first because I also thought the information was coming from a reliable & serious person. Utterly dissapointed but glad I found out before giving my friend false hope. I can't understand why he's promoting anything that is targeting desperate people in need of a cure. How evil he must be . All four of those behavior panel guys must be phoneys & conmen. Hopefully everyon̈e will see this and stop trusting those liars.
Michael Tellinger has some great info. about healing the body with frequency that you mite look into for your daughter. God Bless! Xoxo
Thank you for this enlightening video.
My CH BS meter went off when I read his book, 6MX. It felt like I was in an infomercial and I was reminded of R. Cialdini’s book that lists the 6 principles of influence. They’re all in there.
Love this. Thanks so much.
Thank you for your podcast. I do enjoy watching the people you were talking about.-no names, but this is an eye-opening view. I will still watch the other people, but with a slightly different opinion and set of questions
Good video. I would say you did a good job of exposing Chase and the domain he plays in, and why this field is particularly vulnerable to con men.
I really enjoyed the Behavior Panel until they all developed man crushes on Dr. Phil. The glow quickly faded.
Yes, that was the end for me too! Dr Phil is also a con!
Yes. I found that very hard to understand too. I always thought their very obvious admiration for Dr Phil was odd.
I always wondered why when they analyzed Summer Wells parents it seemed like they were giving them the benefit of the doubt so much.
Red flags all over the place and they all seemed oblivious.
I stopped watching them too.
The incentive to get attention/clicks/views/money is a hell of a distorting influence.
and my next comment ;.)... actually the first red flag for me was the connection to Dr. Phil. Dr Phil himself lies and does so many unethical things on his show, that I wondered that the Behavior panel lie into the bed with him.
@@sylviaopriessnig2514 I agree. I thought maybe they were all short of money, eg doing the TH-cam videos during COVID to boost their income and then Dr Phil comes along.
I think it's symbiotic. He probably pays them, and they seem established and professional enough to support Dr Phil and his crappy "therapeutic" ideas.
@@sylviaopriessnig2514 the video they did on the Ramseys was strange to me. It felt disingenuous. But they were also lacking key information regarding the case, which they admitted to because they didn't know the background, so anything they said was going to be skewed or biased.
Ie the death of Jon-Bennet Ramsey
I stopped watching them when Dr Phil was involved
Greg and Mark are the only ones on the show with the real work experience, and resumes to back up what they say. Greg seems to have uad the type of military career/ job in the military that Chase wants everyone to think he had.
1:08:20 To me that's the absolute biggest most important point, the reason I hung in to the end. All these "behavior experts" didn't see through Chase. It doesn't say much for their "expertise".
I’ve been involved in NLP since the 1990’s and agree with most of the points you raise. In my opinion 80% of what’s taught in NLP trainings is bullshit. The remaining 20% is useful material but you have to really dig to find it.
Thanks, yeah mostly agree with that. I did learn some interesting things from it and there were interesting ideas to explore (although of course a lot of those ideas aren't specific to NLP but they did present the chance to learn about them)
Thanks for the update. I am interested in more content examining this sort of thing. I have been binging your videos and I love what you're doing! : )
Thank you!
Are you planning to do any coverage on his recent content on experiencing brain disease and his own indications of memory/ identity loss? He indicated needing to document his own brilliance before it's lost, which seemed an odd context to me. It was excellently presented though, captivating.
I started thinking TBP had become a cult and was interested following the cult followers development by reading their comments. Chase's recent comments about brain malfunctions, his cure, and how he matured late about age 35 feel like some sort of a long range setup/plan on his part to continue bamboozling his followers. Really sucking up sympathy from the fans. They will become extremely protective of him. If Chase actually has the skills he says he has, is he now practicing the same tactics?
Meh, another narcissist “ documenting his own brilliance “, why is that captivating??!😂
I doubt I'll do much more about Chase, as I think most people can see what's happening there (with exception of his close fans and some general NLP fans). Honestly I've spent way longer on it than I ever planned or wanted to ha
Love your last line "we rise by helping people"
Chase always says "we rise by lifting others"😂😂😂
Great video, chase also gave me always some "???", the lack of a wiki, the cult like audience and the book that do have fluff and puff in it
a little easter egg for the true CH fans :)
I've recently watched the DRVN podcast with Chase Hughes (Government Brainwashing Expert On How To Spot Lies & Influence Anyone). One of the things he says in the podcast is, "suggestable people are happier." I think this is a dangerous idea to promote, and sounds like something a cult leader would say.
Hi, amazing series videos. You are right calling him out. I used to be a fan. Just one question what do you think about his books? Like 6 minute x ray or the elipsis manual?
That's basically what this video is about. I discuss the Ellipsis Manual in this, and by extension his other work.
Thanks for your work for vetting some of these claims on the Internet. I watched Chase’s video until he claimed there is no other book where his information is in in the whole world that was a huge red flag. There is no way he read all the books in the whole world, thanks again
This is fascinating. I recently came across Chase Hughes on youtube after watching some NLP and Paul McKenna videos and he made it into my algorithm. I have watched maybe 10 or 15 of Chase's videos and, like others have mentioned, didn't take the time to do any background checking and just took what he said about his life at face value. Your video led me to watch your 'Angry fans of Behavior Panel's Chase Hughes lash out...' video and I have some thoughts. I admittedly have not checked your background online, but it's not really relevant if the information you are presenting about Chase is true - the facts are facts and I can do without the analysis. If he lied, that discredits him and his work. I have noticed that he has repeated the same stories on different interviews, but the 'facts' that he sights are inconsistent - in one video he talks about his seizures as the equivalent of dreaming for 3 months in 30 seconds; in another video it's 9 months for 90 seconds. There are several of these inconsistencies that raised my eyebrows and I keep seeing more. What I am pondering is whether it matters. What I mean is, he is clearly a bullshit artist - he tells the world this through admitting all of the work he has done to become one. He doesn't use that word, but he projects it by telling everyone that they can manipulate people, etc, and it is clear that he is experimenting with his tactics in real-time, and with great success. His intrigue with con-men and the Catch Me if You Can movie feel more like admiration than anything else. But, again, if he is actually helping some people improve their lives, I question whether the bullshit that he has spun really negates the good. It is logical that our brains are wired to make snap decisions about people and scenarios based on limited or incomplete nformation, and this can go both ways: you can get duped easily without deeper analysis, or you can be convinced that something is not what you thought it was (assuming it has not yet become part of your identity) easily with limited information as well. My point is, if he did lie about his past, that is wrong. If his snake-oil is helping people, that is good, even though his lies from his past are bad. So there is a calculus here to be made, not a black or white analysis.
Chase Hughes seems to be almost like a real-life fictional character that has been created that we want to root for and listen to (I almost said 'follow' - oh no!!) because it would be great if even a small percentage of what he says is true. Knowing that he may be fake but parsing the potentially useful tactics and strategies from the true bullshit may in fact produce positive results in one's life.
Thank you for your critical eye in this regard. One thought - the tone projected by using words like 'bullshit' and 'nonsense' in your videos does come of as hater/troll - I as a commentor can use such terms because I am not actually providing analysis, but those terms are themselves lazy, if satisfying, and less effective than using more definitive words like 'discredited' or 'clinically unproven'. I appreciate the eye-opening all the same. Fascinating phenomenon and I am eager to see how this plays out.
Thank you for this content. New subscriber. It takes guts to go against someone so prevalent in any field because you basically take on most of the people in that industry too. I hope your videos go viral so the word can get out!
Thank you! (although I'll say that guy isn't really in any "field"; nobody knows who he is apart from mainstream people he's reached via youtube and podcasts; he doesn't have a wikipedia and nobody respected knows who he is; your kind words are still appreciated though!)
Like many here, I initially liked watching the Behavior Panel, although Chase has always seemed smug to me. The more I watched, the more uneasy I felt. Something felt off. Thanks for shining some light on this.
Thanks for the thanks!
I have a lot of skepticism about NLP, however, I do incorporate two NLP techniques in my psychotherapy practice because they are extremely effective. I think there are probably elements of both snake oil and genius within this discipline so it is important not to throw the baby out with the bath water.
Which two?
Thanks so very much for your warning! I watched your first podcast about CH after seeing him talking about the methylene blue & how great it was on the podcasts that you quite rightly said had thousands of views ... & that it had NO side effects! I was planning to speak to my pharmacist about it for 2 neuro disorders I have, as well as depression ... I even recommended it to a friend, bhut also gave the podcasts links for her to check out herself. I feel such a dope for falling for this con. He should be in jail!!
MB is cheap as chips and been used for decades! And why should Hughes be jailed?
Love to hear what your doctor says about it when asked.
I know absolutely nothing about methylene blue, but a quick search, shows that it has been used for decades for various conditions, and you can find a number of papers on it. Why don't you do your own research, instead of blindly believing claims by random youtubers.
I have multiple sclerosis and take MB. My GF can tell you the difference it has made with just my energy levels. Research it for yourself as there are many studies on it.
There most certainly are documented side effects. This is quickly found via Google from research articles and legit medical websites. Are they horrifying side effects? I mean, I guess that's subjective and relative to the person reading them, but they definitely exist. It's false to say there are none, simple as that.
cant believe how much credibility people give this guy.
And to the other 3 panel members. It’s all BS.
@@Woodman-Spare-that-tree I agree. You can tell what they are going to say just by reading the title. They depend on making their viewers happy, so they "read the room" (which doesn't take more than opening your eyes and ears) and whatever the majority of people think is what they think.
I am often surprised at how easily people seem to believe people like Chase. When people are vague about their background or former job, that is a huge red flag for me. Scott Rouse, another one of the "Behavior Panel" has "trained along with the FBI, Secret Service" etc. What does that even mean? Trained in what? What was his connection? Is he saying he worked for these organizations? This is currently what you can find about him by using Google. The only person who on the entire Behavior Panel who has a non vague background is Scott Rouse. All the others seem to just be self credentialed.
For the most part, these men all seem to be con artists to me. And like so many con artists, they have a large population of supporters.
I recently watched a video with Joe Navarro who is an actual FBI interrogator. He dispelled the notion of where your eyes go tells what you’re accessing in your mind. Chase Hughes is a huge proponent of this BS and uses this tactic to “analyze “ people and their thoughts. I hate to admit that I was taken in by his charm and confidence and have unsubscribed from the Behaviour Panel.
On Sept. 20, Hughes released a follow up video to his "My Brain Disease" entitled "The Dying Brain Recipe? My Brain Disease so far..." in which he dives into talking about Methylene Blue. I not sure if his brain disease was real, I honestly hope it isn't. However, I'm not inclined to believe his disease is completely real because he's already hawking a product to cure it.
I saw your last video. Personally, I was attracted to the subject as a PI (missing persons) as there are so many that go missing. It is not uncommon for those close to the missing to appear on the news, and it helps to see/observe them to try and discern if the person is missing due to a that person in the news, or an outside event (which can tell us where to search.) I followed along with the (BP) 4 of them before they were famous. Collectively they gave good advice/insight. However, the moment they went on Phil's show.. the creeps crept in primarily because of the treatment of the guests/family of the missing person. I am a firm believer as a sort of profiler myself that who is around a person can give an overall color to a personality type: Phil is not in the best of light in my opinion. I also had reservations finding that they could be teaching folks how to manipulate others, hide cues, and that didn't set right with me. I unfollowed them after a time. I recall learning about the Barnam affect in college (abnormal Psych) and it most likely is the reason they have most of their popularity (presently).
And in case it's not clear: I def am not saying all the Behavior Panel stuff is bad. In fact, something I tweeted months ago was basically like "If you took everything out and left only their statement analysis stuff, you'd have a really useful show" as I think the statement analysis stuff is so much more reliable and also just more frequently present than nonverbal stuff. How people phrase things, as Mark McClish has written about. Not to say all the nonverbal stuff is bad either, though; just to say that a lot of it is talking about high-variance noise.
@@PeopleWhoReadPeoplepodcastIt can be very misleading to focus on the noise. Thank you for bringing clear analysis regarding normal variation. A narcissist will manipulate data to control the narrative and it's sad witnessing the exploitation of people who are trying to self-improve. 😢💔
@@PeopleWhoReadPeoplepodcast I agree, I use some of it myself, but I also use the written statement that is actually more telling. Old-fashioned paying attention to statements and consistency wins the day.
Yeah exactly. It's like: there's so much information in that stuff (just deductions about statements and actions and patterns of how they respond and such), and then compared to that the body language stuff is like so unreliable/high-variance.
24:40 If you start listening from here, it sounds exactly like L Ron Hubbard and Scientology. He and Milty were the same vintage. Interesting......
Scientology does the staring into the eyes stuff too. Curiouser and Curiouser ..
glad to see some body covering this. grifters everywhere. there is a reason he loves the main character from the movie ''catch me if you can''. He was active duty infanty b4 he was navy. (if he ever was in the navy.) . The fact he is friends w/ dr phill is all we need to know
I began wondering about chase after his constant promotion of methylene blue on every podcast. That questioning led me to this video.
I looked at your channel contents first and it gives you credibility.
He was pals with Dr. Phil. That should have clued me in. He is a smooth operator.
Doesn't that make the who le panel in question? Why didn't they do the research? I questioned them when they let Bill Gates off the hook. They started it right off saying I know you're going to say we were paid off. And at the end I said you're absolutely right.
Thanks for taking a look at my stuff. I agree: it is always important to check people out a bit before listening to them. I do that myself (as it's just so easy to waste a lot of time before recognizing the source is bullshit).
I need to find a list of ingredients of Redshift with Neuridium expressed in miligrams. Anybody who bought it and still has the box or whatever it came in?
I think there was almost no one who bought it, fwiw. And I think even that person who said "I have 500 containers that Chase left me" may have actually been Chase himself (no clue on that though, just a hunch). In short, you'd be hard pressed to ever find it I think.
It was probably multi vitamin supplemented with amino acids like l-tryptophan / 5-htp and caffeine -sceptical face-
Now I'm wondering if he's not using the leftovers for his miracle brain cure he just started selling.
@@jupo9928why would an energy and cutting compound have l-tryptophan? It makes you sleepy
Excellent video. It answered a lot of my questions about this guy. I've heard professional therapists criticize Dr. Phil for not being a great doctor as he fails to put his patients well-being first (as evidenced by how he interacts with them on his show), so it's not surprising to me that he'd promote someone who turns out to be a conman. I'm just wondering if any of the other 3 guys on TBP show are legit, or are they all conmen? Just curious.
I'd love it if you'd do an interview with Martin Taylor! I love Derren Brown, in part because he openly tells people (often) that he performs tricks and what he does isn't real. He discourages people from believing nonsense. I didn't know Martin Taylor was associated with Brown in any way until watching this video. Would love to learn more about the guy and what he does. Thanks! :)
Im a Hypnotist and yes hypnosis is on a small path between leggit and scam.
I myself try to test things irl out before I claim that tere are true. If hypnosis would be a scam I don't know it😅, but I know that I helped some clients to overcome fear, addiction and some allergies... maybe it is just a placebo who knows
He pushes that weird blue dye stuff as a miracle cure for everything
@@Amazology yes! Major red flag!
You’re a great public servant.😮
Thanks!
what is your analysis of the rest of the behaviour panel? even if they might not have any similar sharlatan histories, like Chase, is the general business of body language similarly reliable to NLP?
I think it is akin to drawing to draw blood from a stone. Nonverbal stuff is just so high-variance and noisy, so there's really not much that interesting to say about granular behaviors (there is a lot to say about larger patterns, but I think a lot of that just gets more in the realm of statement analysis; the things people say and how they say it, which is very different) but the incentives to produce content and get clicks exert pressure to say a lot more than should be said. And due to that incentive to create content, they'll basically be talking about a lot of high-variance noise that doesn't mean much.
When you read Chase Hughes books you are always left wondering how can you apply this in real life.
That is a red flag for all such things. Lack of real world examples; a mystery around how all this would actually work in practice.
Thank you. Watching from Alaska.
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I shared Chase’s video about how he’s healing his brain with my 23-year-old, extremely sick daughter who suffers from CRPS, POTS, gastroparesis, and more. We’ve spent over $200K in hopes of healing and recovery for her, and I was excited about yet another possible treatment that MIGHT help. I’m so disappointed that we were apparently duped by someone I’ve truly respected.
I'm sorry to hear that. Best wishes for your daughter.
Methylene blue can literally dye your brain blue. Makes me think of the colloidal silver that turns people grey with enough use.
Did you know it can reverse brain damage 😆👍🏻
Yikes if you use too much of it it can shut down your kidneys be careful
Thanks for sharing, shared.
32:18 "But one would think that someone would have found something by now." The answer to your question was in the paragraph mentioning Richard Wiseman further down @29:04
Has anybody here taken Redshift with Neuridium?
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I wonder if he was selling MCT oil which was researched by the Navy SEALS and does have some real benefits (ketones), which affects stamina and mood. I wonder....it can be refined from coconut oil.
Landed BRILLIANTLY 😂😂😂😂😂 58:18
You are spot on.
Thank you!
Hypnosis is bunk. Again, that subject is carnival hype.. It's suggestive reasoning. I do believe however, that meditation and relaxation can help to recall details of an event.
For some reason, I didn’t need to hear much of Chase Hughes to in my mind, think that he’s a mega bs-er. So are his cronies reading micro expressions. They all sound like idiots. I’ve seen few first 5-10 min of these guys, I slide the timeline, to see if there is anything of substance. There is none. I just didn’t know guys like Chase were taken seriously by people. Chase literally spills out “I’m a BS-er” every time he opens his mouth. He also exudes insecurity. That what I noticed the most about him, how insecure he is. I wonder why people can see that right away?
Have you heard anything from CH’s camp? I half-expected you to say you received a C&D.
just some vague emails saying "Can we answer your questions" and "we sent you an email but you didn't respond" (never saw it) and "you deleted our youtube comments" (I didn't). So far, nothing of substance or real interest, no.
@@PeopleWhoReadPeoplepodcast did you send them questions? I’m surprised they offered to answer.
@@jackiealltrades They didn't really. They wanted me to compile questions for them to answer, and I told them I thought it was obvious what they might reply to. And then I told them the main question was around all the claims to renown/fame that Chase had on his site over the years despite no evidence of that, and they never replied (that was a few days ago).
@@PeopleWhoReadPeoplepodcast I would have relished the opportunity to put specific questions to him. Any reason you demurred?
@@jackiealltrades I didn't get the sense it was a good use of time. They didn't have names attached to the email; they said things that weren't true (that they'd emailed me and that I'd deleted comments). I got the sense they were mainly just leading me on a wild goose chase and that, seeing how much Chase has deceived, it would be a waste of time. They never directly said "Chase will respond to this." I mean, if they truly wanted to address these things, they clearly could, either by emailing me or making a public statement or whatever. But they know that talking about it publicly just draws more attention to it, which they don't want to do.
Does anyone know the Music at the beginning and end?
Handsome men can get away with almost anything.
:/ if you think he's handsome
But he must be vaguely symmetrical?
I'm over 40, I'm probably the wrong diagnostic group ;)
@@jupo9928I don't think he's all that handsome either. Not ugly & over confident would be my description.
@@laynicarterI would say he’s average looking for a middle aged man. He’s quite short, but very average looking. I think it’s his superficial charm, his confidence and maybe his feigned empathy that attracts vulnerable women. It’s mostly women that follow him
@@laynicarter He’s always looked too sad for my tastes. Scott Rouse has pizazz and Mark Bowden is joyful and fun. I don’t think Chase Hughes would be a fun date, though technically, better looking. He just doesn’t appeal to me.
Doesn’t hurt to add charisma.
I thought the inner circle joke was pretty good.
Chase is a big time liar. I have done trainings by Joe Navarro and Dr. Abbie Marono and the information they give is all about asking more questions. Chase is all about definitives he said for his behavior table of elements there is 4 research papers showing each to have validity but we know that there is none in body language.
He has also said that Joe Navarro has approved some of his concepts which isn’t true. I have asked Joe himself and he even said I have never spoke with him and know little.
I would caution anyone thinking that he is 💯 truthful or teaching science based knowledge.
Wowza
Thank you 🙏
Thing is people who think they can hypnotise others are just being "hypnotised" themselves, because if you look hard enough for something you'll find it (or trick yourself into believing it).
The prey here is not the poor people who these people think they're going to hypnotise, but the "hypnotisers" themselves.
Plenty of sunk cost fallacy involved with those who are paying for courses. They probably didnt learn anything they couldnt have learned with a week of focusing on nlp and non verbal behaviors on TH-cam.
@@sole__doubt there are so many self published books on Amazon that might as well be a copy and paste job from Wikipedia. When people encounter Chase's rewritten content it possibly reinforced the crap they've already read but in a way that doesn't look copied but is so complex they're struggling with it.
I tried with his behaviour periodic table. To cognitively balance assessing the variables from that, and have an authentic conversation with someone is huge. Even watching a video and trying to assess someone with it takes a lot of time.
I also think the more you analyse, the less you retain about your "instinctual" reads. But I don't know. I've not graduated his course 🙄.
Oh my....it all makes sense now. My spider sense was tingling MANY times watching TBP, and I finally unsubscribed about 3 months ago, because of Chase. Something felt off. To me, Mark is the most interesting and Greg is a legend. Scott is a bit corny, but seemingly authentic.
Thanks again that’s what I wanna teach my grandkids critical thinking so they can detect the bullshit….!
thank you for your work!
Thank you, Sylvia!
Has chase responded to any of this?
Not that I know of.
@@PeopleWhoReadPeoplepodcast Very telling... A man would defend his integrity and his lifes work if it was solid don't you think? Funny how his body language buddies didn't detect anything!!!!
Do you know how Chase met the other Behaviour Panel co-hosts?
I heard he recognized their facial proportions from across the airport and using his super ultra top secret reference manual identified them as like minded behaviorists.
lol. There is apparently a video where they talk about how they all met and how Behavior Panel started. Someone recommended it to me but I haven't watched it. Might paste that here later.
@@abesimpson5444😂
@@PeopleWhoReadPeoplepodcast yes I would also be interested in those 4
@@abesimpson5444 🤣
If we search you and that guy on Google will there be any similarities?
We both eat food. I'm not sure about other similarities. Only one way to find out: start googling!
I have hypnotherapy qualifications, am a psychologist and I’m just starting a Doctorate in Coaching. Chase Hughes scares the sh!t out of me. Where’s his duty of care when a client has an abreaction and ends up hospitalised with panic attacks???
@@Happinosis Zero follow up. I highly doubt he cares about the aftermath. Maybe he has his clients sign a waiver prior to a session? Seeing as he has ZERO certifications I bet that waiver is six pages long!!
@@ziggylaurie2268 terrifying. He just doesn’t give a flying one for the people he works with.
You should do one of these on Joe dispenza and his cult background
What are your qualifications to be making these judgements
Ability to use the internet and research and think critically, really. I don't think any special qualifications are required to see the things I've examined in this and previous examinations. Your mileage may vary; I'm just sharing my thoughts, at end of the day.
But if expertise is important, and you're interested in the NLP stuff, just look at what all the researchers and academics have said about it.
There are many academic articles in support of the effectiveness of NLP and body language and some VERY big names and successful people that use it.
What’s obvious to me is that you are trying to leverage the name of a successful man who contributes positively to many lives through his work - just to try to build your little channel by casting vague aspersions.
Why not build your channel with integrity instead?
@@margotpienaar6654 Care to go into detail about the studies you see as most supportive of NLP? Again, I'd point people who have studied these things and summarized the research. For example, this work: www.robyeung.com/why-should-you-be-wary-about-nlp/. It's also true (as many have examined) that some studies that are claimed to support NLP are a) very weak/biased (e.g., some aren't really studies at all) and then b) some studies/research is taken out of context by NLP-promoters to make it seem like it supports NLP concepts when they don't. Just to say, as with most things where there are big fans, it can be hard to use the internet to quickly research these areas.
And I do see examining major deceptions as "building my channel with integrity." And many people have thanked me for this work in helping them think more critically about these areas. That is integrity to me; integrity isn't just "being nice" but about helping people think critically and avoid being duped.
So out of curiosity what are your direct claims that chase is lying about? Like that he is outwardly told a bold-faced lie about? I'm not arguing for or against him, I'm just legitimately curious. Has he said that he has degrees or certificates that he doesn't actually have? Or that he has directly said that he had a job in the Navy that he didn't actually have? It seems like he's very vague about a lot of things and maybe that's on purpose but what has he said that is an actual lie? I mean I don't know about that Guru website but if it says he's number one on it, wherever that came from he's number one on something i guess technically lol? I don't doubt that he has definitely done things to make himself look better than maybe he actually is but I just need a refresher from your videos on what his actual outward lies were? If you don't mind
You can read the synopsis here. He made all sorts of claims about being respected and well known in various industries and it's all smoke and mirrors: behavior-podcast.com/debunking-chase-hughes-examining-the-bullshit-of-the-self-titled-1-expert-in-behavior-influence/
And that's not even getting into the clearly false things about what is possible with his training/content.
So chase has pulled off the ultimate psychological experiment?
Where do I sign up!?
Do you know Dr Bandler and Dr Grinder? The forefathers of NLP
Yeah. They based their ideas on Milton Erickson concepts/practices (amongst others). I didn't want to get into the whole backstory, which is why I recommended people look into it.
The good hippies went to the Guru’s and gave up drugs some went to Charles Manson.
Take your pick!
SO what about the other guys on the Behavior Panel? Are they in on it? If not, why would they associate with a fraud?
I think they are all rather light on any actual 'expertise'.
Greg has some experience with SEAR and latterly had a successful business career. He was on a BBC TV show about interrogation in the 2000s. Mark however is an ex actor who advertises himself as a keynote speaker and one time had a gig advising either the UK or Canadian PM on how to give an engaging speech. He’s giving us social interpretation from the world of acting and ideas, nothing more. Unsure about Scott. He was a reasonably successful music producer who one day surfaced as a body language guy, no idea how, and then having built some courses with Greg that some police came to, now says he trains law enforcement. Having watched the first video though, I’m shocked by the extent of Chase’s grift and I don’t think any of them have made such outlandish claims as him.
@@yeahcat7509Scott was a music producer and now he trains cops in body language? Makes me think literally anyone can do this job.
54:10... Aaaaannnnnddd there it is, I didn't know Mitozen was a chiropractor. Now it's ALL making sense. It blows my mind that "chiropractors" are permitted to use the title Dr. and all other rights and privileges of having an actual medical degree in the US, UK, other countries with government agencies like the FDA, NHS, etc., in this day and age. We did away with phrenologists and blood-letters, but why homeopathy, chiropractic, osteopathy, acupuncture, functional medicine, and so on, are still allowed to call themselves Dr., promote themselves as real medicine, sold at major pharmacies intermingled amongst actual medicine, and even reimbursed by national and private insurers. What are we doing????
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Mitozen is not the chiropractors name, to be clear. That's the product. The chiropractor's name is John Lieurance.
Oh boy! The one who gets away on his own never knows of his isolation because he is always pleasantly accompanied by his own self…
I’m not trying to be smart but respectful.
sorry, not really following that
Come again?
@@Shinkajo lol
One thing I can't find the answer to is his, "best selling author" claim. I read a lot and am at the library and various book stores several times a week, I've never seen any of his books featured or even displayed. IS HE REALLY a best selling author?
I almost included a section on this in this piece. One thing to understand is that they use Amazon categories to make these claims. It just means someone's book was listed (even for a short period of time) as one of the top x books in a specific category. Which is actually quite easy to do, because there are some quite granular categories. Another strategy (which I learned about from NLP world back then) was to get your fans to purchase your books in the middle of the night, which would temporarily boost your book to one of the best selling ones in that category, so you could take a screenshot to defend yourself being a "best seller." And then of course one you start calling your book a best seller it might actually become one in one or more of those categories; perception can create reality. I haven't actually looked into Chase's books and how they're doing in various categories as I feel like regardless of how they're doing, my points apply. I.e., success in a Amazon category doesn't mean much to me.
I could call myself a best-selling author because my book has been one of best sellers in poker/game categories on Amazon at certain points but the bullshit marketing stuff doesn't interest me. Seeing someone who is relatively unknown claim "best seller" status should be a red flag. Won't always be but will often be.
I just typed out a reply to you, but it bounced back to me because I mistakenly replied to the "no reply @" email.
I'll see if I can retrieve it and post it here.
Basically I wanted to thank you for your deep dive into CH, and your well thought out videos and responses.
I'd file that claim as marketing. It's common in most advertising. How many "#1 toothpaste brand[s]" are there?? Besides, "best-selling," if true, only indicates the number of people in the general public who've shelled out $$ for someone's book. But most of the general public has no training or credentials in the relevant areas, so what they support with their wallets is meaningless. It is not a critical evaluation of the veracity or scientific validity in the content. There are so many concrete and indefensible issues in NLP and NCI, this advertising tactic would be the least of my concerns.
@@PunyModes yeah agreed. That stuff is the very least of all of it.
@@PeopleWhoReadPeoplepodcast Finally found it:
Thank you for your answer.
I watched your first video with a lot of skepticism, because I enjoy TBP and a lot of what Chase says rings true, but as the old saying goes -- even a broken clock is right twice a day. I was blown away by the absolute BS Chase has touted himself and padded his resume.
I often wondered how the other guys on the Behavior Panel thought about his claim of #1 Behavior Expert in the world, but figured that they're not roosters & don't need to strut. Now I just think he defends the assertion by silently & to himself ending that claim with, "according to my mother and my wife."
Thank you for your videos. We need to call out bullshit when we see bullshit & I'm proud of you for doing so.
All Best,
Carol
In my opinion, it's not that NLP falls short, it's very difficult to find anyone who does it well.
Would love to bring Mentalists into this discussion.
What Would Spidey Do?
Best clickbait ever
Hughes reminds me of one "Frank Wallace" who promised that following his advice would provide a "guaranteed income for life" from playing home games in poker.
Funny you mention that. That book actually inspired me a bit in poker realm when I was in early 20s. It's all a bunch of overhyped bullshit but it had a great exciting narrative quality that drew you in and made you wonder "How much of this is possible?" It was one of the early things that got me more interested in poker tells.
Why don’t you just interview chase to question him on these things? They offered you a meeting with him.
No, they didn't. I told them via email to let me know when Chase could talk to me for my podcast and they never suggested a day/time.
And, I think talking to Chase wouldn't change anything. He's clearly someone willing to deceive about all manner of things. What do you think talking to him would accomplish? If they wanted to address this, they could put out a statement/video themselves, but I think for obvious reasons they have an incentive to keep quiet and hope it blows over.
@@PeopleWhoReadPeoplepodcast😂
@@NickiBellator :) lol ha
Ericson had nothing to do with NLP. Also hypnosis works, conversational hypnosis works too, ive done it myself. I dont really know what I was doing but I had people panic while doing it.
www.nlpworld.co.uk/nlp-training-the-milton-model-language-for-change/
www.nlpworld.co.uk/nlp-glossary/m/milton-model/
I think this is generally very well researched and presented, however, I want to challenge your rationale and logic specifically where you ask questions of the “Would that influence you?” nature. Clearly a lot of NLP and similar techniques (just like a lot of sales and marketing tricks) are designed to affect people subconsciously, so this line of enquiry is, by nature, flawed. Otherwise, great analysis.
Right. But I do think there's value in asking people, "Do you think such subtle and small things would interest you?" I think most people would rightly guess no, and I think that's the correct answer. Just as subliminal messages have been shown to be ineffective (or as to have such a slight impact as to be ineffective for all practical purposes; e.g., even the best subliminal message will be nothing compared to not wanting to do that thing).
@@PeopleWhoReadPeoplepodcast Will have to politely disagree as the unconscious is just that-unconscious. Thanks for responding though
@@PeopleWhoReadPeoplepodcastThat inner child who screams "You're not the boss of me" is strong! I love her so much! ☺️💖
@@retroactivejealousy-worldl1805disagree on what? The research that shows that it's pretty much completely ineffective?