Refining Beeswax with Don Williams (Workshop Tour Part 2)
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- Don Williams shares his ingenious method for melting and refining raw beeswax for use in his famous wood finishes. See the article & photos here: woodandshop.co...
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As a beekeeper since 1985 I would like to comment on the purity of wax. My concern would be that for many years now, since the introduction of varroa mites into North America beekeepers have been using Coumaphos as an in hive miticide. It is allowed because it is not water soluble and therefor does not contaminate the honey. It is however fat (wax) soluble. My suggestion is that before using beeswax in any food grade situation, know your beekeeper and be sure that they are not using this chemical. Buy wax locally. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coumaphos
The raw bees wax is considered slumgum grade wax that has all the old comb and bee waste film left on them. They are considered by bee keepers as lower grade wax because of the larger amounts of bee waste in it. Honey comb capping is where the higher grade bee's wax comes from since it's all new and clean and never crossed with old brood comb.
I’m a beekeeper and I love to render beeswax. Good video
Thank you!
French polisher is a continental term for woodfinisher, we mainly work with shellac and restore a lot of antique furniture.
Jacob
Jacob I have just been introduced to French Polishing. Is there a particular page or resource I can look up to gain more understanding of the process'. Since this is your expertise I would love to know more. Someone briefly told me to look up Linseed Oil and Beeswax on youtube but it seems to be soo many variations. Even a book for reference would be awesome. I am in Australia and just finding my love of timber and traditional practices of restoring, creating and finishing wood projects. So new to it I am still making shop furniture for my tools so still have time to learn and grow.
Brilliant! Thank you. 🙂
GREAT video! Thanks
Great video. Rather than using paper towels for filters, try large coffee filters. They work better and are made to withstand heat.
Maybe too fine. If the wax takes too long to filter it will cool
Nannyssillysoap co yes exactly! I tried coffee filters and they didn’t work as well as the paper towel
Thank you very much!
Great way of filtering the wax, thanks.
Well, I am a French polisher in UK and have been trying to get in touch with Don for years, no such luck. Can,t belief I found this video.
Is the book ready yet Don?
Jacob
Whats a "French polisher" ?
@@rbeck3200tb40 Go
is something strange...but I find this channel relaxing and very educative....
Not strange at all...it makes you awesome! :)
More rinsing, less water = more "pure" solvent layer. Going 2 or 3 rinses will yield a final product with less water-soluble contaminants... If that's what the overall plan is. See Zubrick chapter on Washing and extraction.
I would keep all the beeswax byproducts and paper towels to make ball to start my log burner too 😉
Love making my furniture polish.
Simply process. Thanks You share with us
Thanks for sharing.
Most welcome!
great, thank you!
Hi Don and thanks for the video. Realizing this is a couple of years old but still valuable.
I extracted my 1st honey and need to render my cappings. I snagged a crock pot but saw your 2nd warmer. Was it a Fry Daddy?
I have an old one as well but was worried the heat might ignite the wax.
Wife might get a bit testy if I burn the house down
Nice!💜
I’m interested in what you were talking about. The shellac wax
Прекрасное решение, благодарю.
fascinating!!
I want and need that book for me and my alma mater...
I don't understand why people use baking pans to cool the wax product. It seems like it would be more efficient to use something that's a bit taller that tapers down to a cone at the bottom of possible. That way if there's impurities left in the wax it will concentrate in one place and be much easier to remove in one single slice.
Can some one help me? I got some honeycombs, and after extracting the basic honey, started to try and separate the wax from half of it. the problem is i'm new at this, so a didn't knew i had do "wash" the honey before melt to filter, so the liquid honey kinda blended into the wax. the result is a brown wax with some sour smell of fermented honey in it, no matter how much i filter it. I already did the trick with boiling water 5 times, than moved to run the melted wax through some thick fabric... but nothing separates it.
the other half i did wash, put it in some cheese cloth and let in the tap for some time. the result is a beautiful yellow wax.
how can i save the brown half?
(my english is not perfect yet, I apologise for any grammar and misspelling)
Tio Clotildo The honey (which is basically sugars and water) should dissolve in the water and not in the wax. Heating wax above 75 C will discolour the wax and darken it. I have seen dark brown wax from overheating. Also the water should be rain water and not hard water as the calcium salts will affect the wax. Finally never use copper utensils only stainless steel. The copper will discolor wax. Actually many people like the wax to have a honey smell - but sour honey? Has the honey fermented?
just follow this video, throw your filters and all in the pot of boiling water once you have it melted, remove the filters and let it set until hard, then do this all again, but this time use a filter scrape off the brown stuff when hard.
there are a lot of videos on youtube, watch a few and write it all down
Great series. Is there going to be a part3,4,5...?
Nick H Deep 6 Leather Works the accompanying article makes mention of showing how to apply the was in part 4 so it's at least 4 parts.
potato peeler might be better than a knife. you can get a lot of them cheap and keep your knifes clean and sharp for other things.
great and useful video, One question... whats the proportion for the water and beeswax are he use in the firs cook? do you know it? thanks from Spain
Thanks Juanito! It doesn't matter how much water you use. The wax and water separate.
Thanks a lot. ;)
Juanito Ram
Where do you purchase your raw wax? Great video. Very informative. Thank you.
From the bee's.... Don't you remember they sued the human race because we were stealing their honey and wax...
Check for local suppliers
@@VroomvroomNY Yes, but the bees in my area don't take PayPal, so I'm at a loss!
I just tried to make your beeswax, oil, and turpentine finish. It didn’t come out as a paste as yours did. It’s thick but not a paste. Should I add more beeswax Thanks
I cant get my melted wax to go through the paper towel. It just dams up. i have tried coffee filters as well and the same thing happens. Any suggestions?
First, make sure your wax is hot enough. If it's only just above the melt point, it will cool enough in the filter to clog it. Second, try "shortening filters" from either a restaurant supply or Amazon.
English paper towels Don. T work must have plastic in it.
Would it be a good idea to also take the foam off as it is cooking, just as you do when you cook linseed oil. (or chicken stock)
Is it safe to boil the wax like that?
What temperature is the boiling wax? It melts at 145 and can be discolored if heated too much over that temperature.
discolored resulting in what color?
Is there a link for your book available? Thanks for video.
How do you get it to white color?
I sure would love to know where he got that shellac wax from. I've been looking all over the internet for a source and haven't really come up with any good leads (within the US).
try www.woodfinishingenterprises.com. I got mine from India several years ago - it was easy.
What is shellac wax used for.
can anyone tell me once you have the wax cleaned and purified what do you do with the wax after that what do you how do you make stuff with the wax.
Ron Lawson: I mix it with other things and use it to waterproof my leather boots.
Great video, well explained process. Will the book be available on Amazon?
Not sure, but if you visit the blog post you can put your name on a notify list for when it comes out.
Do you sale your beeswax am looking to buy asp
What is the correct way to go about this if you don't have a crock pot?
Also I couldn't get any meaningful amounts of wax straining through kitchen paper. I even bought some expensive type very soft, not plasticy, but still not much permeability
Why not do this in one step and put a paper towel in the strainer the first time you pour it into the cookie sheets?
Of what capacity or model is the white Crock pot?
Sorry, not sure. I'm sure most any thrift store crock pot will work.
Wood and Shop thank you! I followed your instructions to clean my wax but I tried coffe filters instead... it didn’t work as good as the paper towel ;) so now I clean my wax just as you do. You earned a subscriber!
@@seselapaz Welcome aboard!
Low tech, mom & pop.
Frank Gutowski yeah, not really...... « Don Williams is a conservator, educator, scholar, and all around inquisitive guy, having worked on some of the most interesting objects and historic buildings in our nation’s public and private collections. He has developed, managed, and presented educational programming on an array of subjects in the fields of conservation, woodworking, and wood finishing, and has published and presented scholarly research on subjects like ancient coating materials and craft techniques, and created pioneering uses for traditional and modern materials, including some of his own invention.
In his spare time he passionately pursues varied interests, including economics, metal casting, collecting obscure books and tools, Japanese gardening, and faith, all of which usually occur against a backdrop of either jazz or podcast lectures on various arcane topics. He and his wife have two brilliant and charming daughters who lovingly accept that their eccentric Dad has dozens of different kinds of shellac in the basement, which will soon have a place of honor in his restored vintage timber framed barn alongside their cabin retreat in the mountains of rural Virginia. »
Wax ? How about auto wax that is not palm wax ( carnuba) is beeswax good for car finishes?
Ha, ha, I have no idea about car waxes!
Ok! Just a thought 😊
Wood and Shop wax on wax off just like in the movies!
@@solstar4778 Yes Daniel Son.
i have a lot of personal questions for him but im sure it's none of my beeswax
⏮BradPow 👀😳🤡😣
That's a good one!
LOL!
@@WoodAndShop question? What does 200 lbs of beeswax run?I'm new to this.
I dont see what all the buzz is about
Whats up with the book ? Is it available already? :)
Yes, I linked to it in the description, but this blog post links to the books: woodandshop.com/don-williams-amazing-off-grid-timber-frame-barn-workshop-part-1/
Thank you sir
Thanks! I was looking for it too. It didn’t show up in a google search
Where do you get the wax??
Google search your local county bee club. We all have beeswax as a by-product of honey harvesting in summer. @HOneyOnWales
How do I buy wax from this guy??
Go to donsbarn.com
where can you buy beeswax waste?
Hi Justin, it's not beeswax waste, but it's raw beeswax that hasn't been refined yet. You'll just have to google it or talk to local bee keepers.
that's what i assumed, but i didn't want to assume... found some raw wax online...
Thanks for getting back to me.
You're welcome!
You can google search to find your local county bee club. All of us have beeswax by-product after honey harvest. Most of us have more than we'd ever use & would love to sell or give it to someone who could use it! FYI the longer beeswax is exposed to sunlight, the whiter it will become & eventually pure white...but it all starts off yellow. @HoneyOnWales
what if instead of scraping it, you send it over an old electric planer?
poor hot water on that back side then scrape ? IDK. just an idea
This vid is dedicated to the Two-headed depleted uranium babies
Do you sell bee wax
Nope, I sure don't. But Ebay has beeswax.
Everyone is doing too much filtering.