If you put it that way, everything is so simple coldbrew. Just pick champion on live arena and just ban 1 champion, easy. but the planning and strategy and building champion is not as simple. just like siege mode, this is so complicated, planning who to attack which node, player power, AND each node will have different rules. Its interesting, but so dang complicated and the rewards is a mockery for our time and effort.
@@ColdBrewGamingI think we’re talking about tier 1 rewards which majority of us are in. It’ll take 4-7 years to get the champ at tier 1 and that’s winning every Siege. It took our clan a whole year to just get Milthrala which is fine. I do think tier 6 should get the champ really fast but tier 1 half a decade or longer is where the problem is at. I can’t speak for the 1% but the 99% will most likely not get this champ. I can’t say much with not having played this mode yet but from Sahps calculations, it is really bad. We just want the champ and if it takes a year, it’s fine but 4-7 years is crazy. Most of us would moved on before then.
Its not that simple. The planning and coordination of an entire clan is incredibly stressful and time consuming. The horrendous rewards are absolutely not worth the time investment. Theres also a chance you get *no rewards* despite how much work everyone put in. Please check out Saphs video titled "CLAN SIEGE STARTS TODAY WITH TERRIBLE REWARDS" where he shows the loot table and goes into detail about it.
Video just started, I expected. "it's easy, don't bother the rewards are a joke" 😂 He did acknowledge that it's a lot for the leadership. He was taking about regular clan members.
I played a similar game where you were matched up against other clans and tried to capture their strongholds. But you had to choose the time it started and it lasted only an hour. At least everyone should be able to take part here
when hydra first launched its also feel complicated but after some time everyone starts to understand the mechanics, its same for clan siege. you r right its not that complicated community is just overreacting( not for rewards tough).
Its not that hard untill u start facing marichka teams and ur clan lidears says ur champs are weak and u get kicked out bcs the game never gave u meta arena champ
@@akashgola7367 as a old timer I had zero issues figuring out Hydra. But as a clan leader trying to figure out all the conditional do / don't to get a strategy down is like juggling on a unicycle while in a dodge ball game in comparison
@@ColdBrewGaming It was calculated to take 4-7 years to get the champion by Garbear. 4 yeas might as well be 41 since I won't be playing this game for another 4 years.
thank you Cold Brew for sharing this relaxed approach ❤ Plarium just offers a new playgound for those clans interested in. Therefore the rewards are not this big, so all clans who don't want to participate don't miss out on items substantial for progress. Plarium know what they are doing.
Just be a Kraken, it's as shrimple as that. F2P players are simply prawns in the vast dark ocean of Plarium. Also work with your clanmates, don't be shellfish. If you still have problems...well that's just a krill issue.
it's the attack phase that'll make or break this game mode. it's hard to make a basic 4v4 arena battle interesting, maybe the upgrades and restrictions will do it
Ya the community sucks it's trash and toxic....however he'll hades and saph are trying their best to make this community toxic so they can try to push their trash fateless game
You have a lot more faith in Plarium's match-up algorithm than I do. I can't get out of the Silver Tier in Arena because of all the teams that are double or even triple my power. Why am I in there with teams like that? (I'm asking! lol) Also, it's only "fun" if you enjoy PvP--which the vast majority of players in the game DO NOT. I think the successful implementation of this new game mode will involve a great deal of work on the part of the Clan's leader and deputies, as well as a completely new level of communication and cooperation between members (which the game does not support). Finally, if the reason you want to do Clan Siege is the rewards you can obtain... Saph has some really bad news for you. You're better off playing literally any other part of the game than Clan Siege, if you're motivated by rewards. (Which, I'm pretty sure, we all are.) Other than that: GREAT new game mode!
The gamemode is easy untill you start facing clans with op meta champs and imagine your clan wants to progress but ur account is not cable of having someone like krixia or marichka or taras they will kick you bcs they want stronger account this basicly kills f2p players being in biger clans
The rewards kind of make the mode near pointless. For most end game players it will take years to earn the new champ...years. Never mind newer players. Same kind of nonsense goes for getting enough of the gear set to actually make a single good set.
our clan decided to skip this mode lol, just too complicated, tbh i prefer they change whatever in the game currently just like market, minotaur runs etc...
@@ColdBrewGaming why would I want more Arena fights for a 4items reward or lousy chest if you win. have you seen Saph`s video on the rewards ? f... me.
If you want you can set your defense in 1 minute and the wait 12 days and do all your fights in probably 5 minutes might as well get the rewards it’s easy loot if your in a chill clan and if you loose oh well took less than 10 minutes of time you don’t have to strategize if you don’t want to people don’t realize but this is casual if you want it to be but for players who love strategy it can also be grindy it’s perfect if your hardcore and casual
It’s only a waste of time if you are only playing for the rewards. I look forward to the new content and clan engagement regardless of the rewards. This game is seriously lacking in strategy and this is the closest they have got yet to real strategy.
Hi, did not manage to find that Info. Is siege consudered as an arena fight, so arbiter will work as the lead or should we Use leads whose leader skills are viable for All battles live mortu or elva?
Ok so the rewards suck at the moment but I think the game play sounds great. Very surprised with all the hate when none of us truly know how it’s going to play out.
God this looks like garbage. They had how many years? And they couldn't just copy something from clash of clans? Clash of clans FIXED problems 10 years ago with rewards and allowing people to opt-into war and allowing different sized wars that plarium hasn't thought of or won't think of. How completely incompetent do you have to be that you cannot even copy something that has been out for 10 years? And coldbrew, most clans that are not kraken clans are going to just be expanding the roster so that most people can make the changes. So your claim that "you won't have to worry about it" just isn't true. I basically just made everyone a lieutenant. If anyone wants to waste their time they can feel free. They still have produced any decent content in the game since doom tower (obviously in my opinion, for people who like hydra or sintranos... glad you enjoy it!).
@sunnydlite-t8b I agree and it's easy to see 1 rant video comes out every raid cc copy and paste for easy views....as a result it's made the community extremely toxic
Since the rewards are so terrible, it would be great if everyone just didn't put in any defense to let all the clans win. Either everyone will just get rewards or Plarium will notice and want to make a change to the system in regard to rewards.
man im not glad to hear the guilds will instantly be in tier 6, it just gives the krakens even more advantages, and it makes me feel like i have to leave my clan now if i want any chance at progressing my account, the gear sets and primals/mythical books would alone be worth that bc lets be honest tier one is fucking terrible joke. we arent early game at all its just even tier 2 needs 2,5+ mill points in cvc and most people arent super active and only play raid all weekend long, like my clan has many end game players with 10mil+ power, i dont feel like leaving at all but now it feels like i have to leave just bc of the shit rewards i would get. pretty sure we would have had decent chance of competing in hier tiers too. this fucking sucks. the cvc rewards were really not that bad to miss out, bc we also got personal rewards so if i wanted to push i could earn most of what kraken clans could myself as well. this fucking sucks, ofc the content creators who are all only in tier 6 couldnt care less. but this is a real problem and super fucking unfair, one shouldnt exclude people from getting needed rewards just based on being in the right guild wtf
If they made this a PvE aspect instead of PvP, then they might have something. Since this might be the first mode that both sides possibly could lose, it’s just dumb mechanics. Also the rewards makes this for bad for the 99% who are in tier 1 like us lol.
@@ColdBrewGaming you’re very optimistic. I’m just disappointed for the 99% including myself lol. I hope they’re going to see the feedback later and will adjust it for the rewards in terms of fragments for all tiers.
I don’t think people get it.. if it wasn’t 12 days.. You wouldn’t be able to do anything else in the game.. I really don’t think people understand what’s going on at all..
Yep bunch of cry baby in raid community but hey not shocked he'll hades post rant videos almost all the time at this point he doesn't even make content anymore
The negative comments are there because the community just loves to bash on everything Plarium put out. If a new free login Champ isn't OP, Plarium is shit, if a new fusion isn't OP, Plarium is shit, if a new fusion is OP, Plarium is just miney hungry and no f2p players can compete it. Any new content comes out, Plarium is shit... The community needs to chill out...
@@ColdBrewGaming I have been playing since 2019 and run a low level clan. I can put in 4 or 5 of my own accounts but most of my clan have zero interest in "collective" play i.e. they all solo play for the enjoyment of the game. I will use 7 of my accounts that are above level 45 but time will tell if more than 5 of my clan will also play this new area. I certainly don't play in any areas beyond the core game i.e. dungeon runs. Helpful video, none the less.
Nope. Still complicated. I could come up with better cvc game modes than this and rewards...dont get me started on those. Guess we'll judt have to wait and see but im not expecting much. Plarium needs to get a grip!
Sorry, I'm 5:54 minutes into your video and I'm completely lost! At this point I have stopped the video because I am about 5 more seconds from being pissed off! This isn't easy, it isn't making any since to me.
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If you put it that way, everything is so simple coldbrew. Just pick champion on live arena and just ban 1 champion, easy. but the planning and strategy and building champion is not as simple. just like siege mode, this is so complicated, planning who to attack which node, player power, AND each node will have different rules.
Its interesting, but so dang complicated and the rewards is a mockery for our time and effort.
Hydra isn't simple
Yeah but live arena takes hours and hours for the rewards. This is literally set 2 defences and do 3 attacks every 16 days.
@@ColdBrewGamingI think we’re talking about tier 1 rewards which majority of us are in. It’ll take 4-7 years to get the champ at tier 1 and that’s winning every Siege. It took our clan a whole year to just get Milthrala which is fine. I do think tier 6 should get the champ really fast but tier 1 half a decade or longer is where the problem is at. I can’t speak for the 1% but the 99% will most likely not get this champ. I can’t say much with not having played this mode yet but from Sahps calculations, it is really bad. We just want the champ and if it takes a year, it’s fine but 4-7 years is crazy. Most of us would moved on before then.
Its not that simple. The planning and coordination of an entire clan is incredibly stressful and time consuming. The horrendous rewards are absolutely not worth the time investment. Theres also a chance you get *no rewards* despite how much work everyone put in. Please check out Saphs video titled "CLAN SIEGE STARTS TODAY WITH TERRIBLE REWARDS" where he shows the loot table and goes into detail about it.
Video just started, I expected.
"it's easy, don't bother the rewards are a joke" 😂
He did acknowledge that it's a lot for the leadership.
He was taking about regular clan members.
I played a similar game where you were matched up against other clans and tried to capture their strongholds. But you had to choose the time it started and it lasted only an hour. At least everyone should be able to take part here
when hydra first launched its also feel complicated but after some time everyone starts to understand the mechanics, its same for clan siege. you r right its not that complicated community is just overreacting( not for rewards tough).
Its not that hard untill u start facing marichka teams and ur clan lidears says ur champs are weak and u get kicked out bcs the game never gave u meta arena champ
@@akashgola7367 as a old timer I had zero issues figuring out Hydra. But as a clan leader trying to figure out all the conditional do / don't to get a strategy down is like juggling on a unicycle while in a dodge ball game in comparison
Easiest game ever. Skip it. The rewards are well beyond the worst thing ever added. 41 years for the champ at the low end lol.
I dont know how you calculated that lol
@@ColdBrewGaming It was calculated to take 4-7 years to get the champion by Garbear. 4 yeas might as well be 41 since I won't be playing this game for another 4 years.
@@ColdBrewGaming go watch saph video u will understand
thank you Cold Brew for sharing this relaxed approach ❤ Plarium just offers a new playgound for those clans interested in. Therefore the rewards are not this big, so all clans who don't want to participate don't miss out on items substantial for progress. Plarium know what they are doing.
Sure just like pairing in arena works, NOT another broken section added to the game before they fix things we needed fixed 😢
Just be a Kraken, it's as shrimple as that. F2P players are simply prawns in the vast dark ocean of Plarium. Also work with your clanmates, don't be shellfish. If you still have problems...well that's just a krill issue.
it's the attack phase that'll make or break this game mode. it's hard to make a basic 4v4 arena battle interesting, maybe the upgrades and restrictions will do it
New game modes are good for reminding you how whiney, unhappy, and pissy people are.
Ya the community sucks it's trash and toxic....however he'll hades and saph are trying their best to make this community toxic so they can try to push their trash fateless game
@@HyperOdin i think its been like this long before fateless but.
You have a lot more faith in Plarium's match-up algorithm than I do. I can't get out of the Silver Tier in Arena because of all the teams that are double or even triple my power. Why am I in there with teams like that? (I'm asking! lol) Also, it's only "fun" if you enjoy PvP--which the vast majority of players in the game DO NOT.
I think the successful implementation of this new game mode will involve a great deal of work on the part of the Clan's leader and deputies, as well as a completely new level of communication and cooperation between members (which the game does not support).
Finally, if the reason you want to do Clan Siege is the rewards you can obtain... Saph has some really bad news for you. You're better off playing literally any other part of the game than Clan Siege, if you're motivated by rewards. (Which, I'm pretty sure, we all are.)
Other than that: GREAT new game mode!
I think they said that the mana towers are farmable. So maybe once you take it you can farm it a lot, but I might be mistaken.
Thanks for the well explained information
I was hoping it would be as simple as Watcher of realms guild wars.
The gamemode is easy untill you start facing clans with op meta champs and imagine your clan wants to progress but ur account is not cable of having someone like krixia or marichka or taras they will kick you bcs they want stronger account this basicly kills f2p players being in biger clans
Yep, not a lot of conversations about how this will affect f2p players.
@@zkilerex9661 yes you will lose that matchup , but after that you will face easier opponents
Arena Aura working in siege battles? Not sure about that?!
The rewards kind of make the mode near pointless. For most end game players it will take years to earn the new champ...years. Never mind newer players. Same kind of nonsense goes for getting enough of the gear set to actually make a single good set.
our clan decided to skip this mode lol, just too complicated, tbh i prefer they change whatever in the game currently just like market, minotaur runs etc...
Its not
Pretty stupid skip a game mode that hasn't even started? Why is it complicated? Cuz hell hades told you so
This game mode is a waste of time, the rewards are worse than all other areas of the game by a massive margin
True but still its a few arena fights per month
@@ColdBrewGaming why would I want more Arena fights for a 4items reward or lousy chest if you win. have you seen Saph`s video on the rewards ? f... me.
If you want you can set your defense in 1 minute and the wait 12 days and do all your fights in probably 5 minutes might as well get the rewards it’s easy loot if your in a chill clan and if you loose oh well took less than 10 minutes of time you don’t have to strategize if you don’t want to people don’t realize but this is casual if you want it to be but for players who love strategy it can also be grindy it’s perfect if your hardcore and casual
@@ColdBrewGaming not if you are a clan leader like me
It’s only a waste of time if you are only playing for the rewards. I look forward to the new content and clan engagement regardless of the rewards. This game is seriously lacking in strategy and this is the closest they have got yet to real strategy.
Hi, did not manage to find that Info. Is siege consudered as an arena fight, so arbiter will work as the lead or should we Use leads whose leader skills are viable for All battles live mortu or elva?
This is an outstanding question and observation actually. I am also curious!
Ok so the rewards suck at the moment but I think the game play sounds great. Very surprised with all the hate when none of us truly know how it’s going to play out.
God this looks like garbage. They had how many years? And they couldn't just copy something from clash of clans? Clash of clans FIXED problems 10 years ago with rewards and allowing people to opt-into war and allowing different sized wars that plarium hasn't thought of or won't think of. How completely incompetent do you have to be that you cannot even copy something that has been out for 10 years?
And coldbrew, most clans that are not kraken clans are going to just be expanding the roster so that most people can make the changes. So your claim that "you won't have to worry about it" just isn't true. I basically just made everyone a lieutenant. If anyone wants to waste their time they can feel free. They still have produced any decent content in the game since doom tower (obviously in my opinion, for people who like hydra or sintranos... glad you enjoy it!).
Can you attack with champions you set on defense?
Can you attack with a team more than once?
The Leaders of our Clan decided that it's a waste of time. When other areas of the game needs improvement. Hard pass!
Thanks for the explanation, Cold Brew. I actually thought you were playing other games buddy. Re-subbed 😅
Good cold brew for not being negative. This game mode looks dope. Community is toxic as hell ccs need to be more postive to fix this garbage community
they usually feed the negativity because it gets more views/likes.
@sunnydlite-t8b I agree and it's easy to see 1 rant video comes out every raid cc copy and paste for easy views....as a result it's made the community extremely toxic
Can't wait to lose the first 20 weeks like the Hydra Clash on Normal.
Can an attacking team just give all the scrolls to one super powerful team and just steamroll an average Clan ??
@1:17 I wish they didn't make you select a backup team before placing your defense teams.. ugh
Since the rewards are so terrible, it would be great if everyone just didn't put in any defense to let all the clans win. Either everyone will just get rewards or Plarium will notice and want to make a change to the system in regard to rewards.
you don't get matchmaked if you don't set up at least 15 defences
@@gretakannmi373, perfect. That means we can just skip this crap altogether.
@@gretakannmi373 put in defense of level 1 champs
man im not glad to hear the guilds will instantly be in tier 6, it just gives the krakens even more advantages, and it makes me feel like i have to leave my clan now if i want any chance at progressing my account, the gear sets and primals/mythical books would alone be worth that bc lets be honest tier one is fucking terrible joke. we arent early game at all its just even tier 2 needs 2,5+ mill points in cvc and most people arent super active and only play raid all weekend long, like my clan has many end game players with 10mil+ power, i dont feel like leaving at all but now it feels like i have to leave just bc of the shit rewards i would get. pretty sure we would have had decent chance of competing in hier tiers too. this fucking sucks.
the cvc rewards were really not that bad to miss out, bc we also got personal rewards so if i wanted to push i could earn most of what kraken clans could myself as well. this fucking sucks, ofc the content creators who are all only in tier 6 couldnt care less. but this is a real problem and super fucking unfair, one shouldnt exclude people from getting needed rewards just based on being in the right guild wtf
If they made this a PvE aspect instead of PvP, then they might have something. Since this might be the first mode that both sides possibly could lose, it’s just dumb mechanics. Also the rewards makes this for bad for the 99% who are in tier 1 like us lol.
Well we have Sintranos which is similar
@@ColdBrewGaming you’re very optimistic. I’m just disappointed for the 99% including myself lol. I hope they’re going to see the feedback later and will adjust it for the rewards in terms of fragments for all tiers.
12 days to prepare is way too long
With 2 days to actually play it. Weird balance
I don’t think people get it.. if it wasn’t 12 days.. You wouldn’t be able to do anything else in the game.. I really don’t think people understand what’s going on at all..
@@Turtleshellon I don't have issue with prep being 12 days but I think the play phase should be more than 2 days.
It really doesn't take 12 days to prep. It is that many days between battles. People will see as they participate
@@bloodshot_ii why? You want to waste more of your limited time on a new mode? It’s setup correctly to rotate with cvc.
People just need to give it a shot first instead of complaining. At least Plarium is giving us something where members need to communicate in battle
Yep bunch of cry baby in raid community but hey not shocked he'll hades post rant videos almost all the time at this point he doesn't even make content anymore
Shared this on FB group!
The negative comments are there because the community just loves to bash on everything Plarium put out. If a new free login Champ isn't OP, Plarium is shit, if a new fusion isn't OP, Plarium is shit, if a new fusion is OP, Plarium is just miney hungry and no f2p players can compete it. Any new content comes out, Plarium is shit...
The community needs to chill out...
Arena based. If ur clsn 8s arena focused u will do well if not u won't.
This content is only for end game players don't let the devs confuse you
Why do you say that? Endgame players will be competing with other endgame similar to CvC and Hydra clash
@@ColdBrewGaming I have been playing since 2019 and run a low level clan. I can put in 4 or 5 of my own accounts but most of my clan have zero interest in "collective" play i.e. they all solo play for the enjoyment of the game. I will use 7 of my accounts that are above level 45 but time will tell if more than 5 of my clan will also play this new area. I certainly don't play in any areas beyond the core game i.e. dungeon runs. Helpful video, none the less.
An easy skip...not interested at all, and no one in my clan is required to do this.
12 days prep plus 2 days of attacks is 14 days. Your math is a lil off 😂
12 + 1 for matchmaking + 2 attacks + 1 results
Nope. Still complicated. I could come up with better cvc game modes than this and rewards...dont get me started on those. Guess we'll judt have to wait and see but im not expecting much. Plarium needs to get a grip!
Should be weekly
5 days prep
2 days battle
Rewards need 30% increase at least
I bought something for Raid Shadow Legends yesterday and now it doesn't work I want to sue these scammers
Easy....uh....yeah right.
have no idea why u defending this mode at its current state its so bad go watch saph video great breakdown
Easy SKIP, clan is dead and same thing gonna happened to this game mode
looks... wack af.
Sorry, I'm 5:54 minutes into your video and I'm completely lost! At this point I have stopped the video because I am about 5 more seconds from being pissed off! This isn't easy, it isn't making any since to me.