Both have there pros and cons for instance. Dance pro: You don’t need a item to fuse Dance con: You need time to do the dance Potara pro: Your stronger than you would be if you did the dance and it’s faster than the dance. Potara con: You need the potara Earrings Which in a Practical Sense Would not be common For any person unless there a god to have.
another con of the dance is that it only lasts 30 mins and the potara lasts for an hour. Although the more Ki the fighter uses can shorten the time limit drastically. But you know dragon ball time is also pretty unreliable so it's hard to say.
@@stoinkydoinky4583 im pretty late but i think this is how it works. Fusion dance doesnt have a energy limit So for ex. Gogeta can use energy as long as he wants (given that he has the energy to do so) potara ex. Vegito has a limit to energy even though he has more energy So to recap the pros and cons Fusion dance Pros: You can do the dance everywhere and you dont need a specific item to use it You dont have a energy limit Cons: The dance takes a lot of time and you need to learn it It only lasts 30 minutes Potara earings Pros: You can fuse with anyone and you dont need to learn it as long as you have the potara earings. Its a faster fusion too You have a 1 hour limit Cons: You need the potara earings which the comment said. Is not common and people who own it are probably gods You have a energy limit Also the gods (i forgot who said it) did say the potara was "better" than the dance but he probably meant that it was just faster. So i think they are equal in terms of power and speed
@@masteryo4982 I was talking about how in the Goku Black arc the potara only lasted 30 mins instead of the actual 1 hour. And the supreme kai of universe 10 explained that the reason that happened was because of vegito using ssjb which burned through a shit ton of energy to use. Which in turn shortened the time of the potara fusion. The potara fusion is not just "1 hour" it varies depending on energy output
@@stoinkydoinky4583 Yeah. I think that the potara has a energy limit and the fusion dance dont because Gogeta used a ton of moves against broly and WHILE at super saiyan blue and didnt even sweat and Vegito didnt used that many abilities and yet defused fast Vegito could probably last an hour if he only stays at base form.
@InnovativeJDawg: So, on one hand, you have the convenience and base natural power at a higher output level via an accessory. But then, on the other hand, you have a more refined merging of powers by via prep and technique, resulting in much greater potential in power output. No one: Me: Imagine doing the Metamoran Fusion Dance while wearing the Potara Earrings.
I believe that while it's easier to use potara earrings. That can be taken away from you so the perfection of the fusion dance is a necessity for these guys. Potara fusion is badass but earrings are breakable. Having access to both like they do are why goku and vegeta are ultimate warriors as a team.
I agree, it's great that Goku and Vegeta have access to both forms of fusion and it definitely boils down to convenience for the Potara, or the perfection of the Dance.
Great video! Casting aside the debate itself, you kept it on equal ground by showing a lack of bias. At the end of the video, you explained how you prefer the Potara (I do too tbh), but instead of throwing out a bunch of talking points, you gave the Fusion Dance fair grounds so that we can decide what is truly more effective. Rather than controversial, this video appears to be far more educational, aside from when you admitted to being a fan of the Potara. This is how I feel about this video, and I hope my criticism helped you in some way! Keep up the good work!
I love both fusions I prefer gogeta a little more but I think each are useful gogeta is good for getting shit done in a flash (as long as it's not ssj4 gogeta) and vegito is better for longer fights the only thing I dont like about each fusion is for the fusion dance it's a pain in the ass to pull off correctly and for the potara earrings if you go to super saiyan blue then your time limit is shorter
Black Knight #1 Hero 101 yeah but when do you need it, we’ve seen goku and vegeta fuse 3 times and 2/3 times there full power wasn’t even needed. Vegito was toying with buu for an hour not even trying to kill him and gogeta going blue on broly was simply overkill. Zamasu was the only threat where the fusions full power was needed, and I’m pretty sure if we’re gonna see them fuse agin there opponent want be strong enough to fight them.
Ultra Space time J Vegito wasnt really toying with buu, he was weakining buu menatally and physically to the point where buu had to absorb vegito. Vegito wanted to be absorbed so that he could save his family and friends that were also absorbed by buu. Gogeta is more of the “get the job done” type of fighter. Gogeta doesnt need earings, just learn the dance from piccolo and your set. Gogeta can also go blue for the full duration of the fusion while Vegito just uses up all his time to stay in blue. However Vegito is stronger and can be done with anyone, doesnt need any dancing. Basically, as the video says, its really up to the fighting situation.
Something I would have loved to have seen at this point is a fusion between two different species. Like for example, how about a Saiyan/namekian fusion? Think about it, the natural abilities of both races would be a part of the fusion. The Zen Kai ability combined with a namekian's regeneration for example. And all of the abilities will be amplified by Super Saiyan, including the namekian ones.
I agree, a fusion between two different species would be really cool. The closest we've gotten to it was Goku Black fusing with Zamasu since one was in a Saiyan body and the other was a Kaioshin.
its almost impossible for you to destroy the potara the only way is if that persons ki is gone completly cause they infuse there ki into it as if its part of their body
Potara Earings: 1. Requires Earings to Fuse 2. perfectly Fuses two beings regardless of power level between them 3. Permanent for Gods, not Permanent for Mortal Fusion Dance: 1. needs to do the Fusion Dance 2. Requires Equal Power Level 3. 30 Minute limit
You forgot the 1 hour rule of the Fusion Dance After you unfuse you have to wait 1 hour to wait to fuse again However since Toei and Toriyama kept forgetting it just blows my reply
If there is a potara earing, just use it, its fast easy to use, and it has a really long time limit, if there isnt a potara earing than use the fusion dance, as long as you do it perfectly you will be fine, though it will be hard if it is your first time doing the technique.
This^ the higher the power level, the less time the fusion lasts for. We just don't how long Gogeta lasted for against Broly and the same for Vegito against Zamasu
@@HareemByron it’s not about the raw power level. Rather, it’s due to the fusions using transformations that burn through their energy. Transformations just expend energy faster until mastered (this what explained in the cell saga) So vegito in mastered ssj1 doesnt defuse early. Gotenks using ssj3 does because ssj3 eats through energy. SsjB is said to be pretty exhausting to use as well, hence why vegito defuses after going straight into ssjb. Gogeta fought mostly in base and ssj1, only going blue at the end.
Also note! The form determines the dominate personality. So the move set. Also i'd argue it also changes their mastery of a form. For instance vegeta is a better SSB user with royal blue. However goku has kioken, so its interesting.
From what I've observed, Potara is undoubtedly stronger but comes with a very notable weakness; The earrings when destroyed force the Fused Fighter to defuse as shown with Kefla during the Tournament of Power. And since the Dragon Ball Super Broly Movie has seemingly retconned the time limit before you are able to refuse, it overall makes the Fusion Dance a better option to use. Not because it is stronger, but it's easier to maintain. Some may say that the Fusion Dance also has better ki management then the Potara Fusion but I refute this as just lazy writing.
It's definitely up to whoever prefers which method. Both fusions have undergone many different changes over the years, so it's getting more inconsistent to balance the two and define which is accurately better
You'd have to over the fusion to destroy the earnings since the earnings are linked to the power of the user so it's not really a disadvantage as long if your stronger the your enemy
What would be dope is the color of the potara representing the power level potential to hold the fusion together!!! Like how the yellow couldn't hold Vegito that long, but the green one holds it for 2 hours, but comes with it's own rules!!!
Great stuff, bro! Though, I honestly disagree with the point of the Fusion Dance being able to exert more power than Potara. Do to Super Saiyan 3 being shown to greatly shorten the time limit to 5 minutes as opposed to the regular 30 of the Dance. And like you mentioned in GT with Super Saiyan 4 shortening Gogeta's time limit to 10 minutes. And honestly the appearance of the Fusion can last as long as the plot demands tbh, because time in Dragon Ball Fights varies. Also... #TeamVegetto😤
I can agree with those points, thanks for pointing them out! I think the time limit really just depends on how long the fusion needs to stay in the plot but to be fair, anything else could just boil down to what the writing calls for as well.
SSJ3 never shortened the time. Trunks in the manga when he was in the HBTC said SSJ3 only last 5 mins. There was no evidence that said or showed SSJ3 shortening the time. Read the manga and Trunks says that they can only hold SSJ3 for 5 mins not the fusion time
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This is a pretty old video, but Fusion Dance can be dropped using more power. This happened with Gotenks, he was able to hold SSJ3, but he defused after 5(I think) minutes. Same with Gogeta SSJ4. The only reason Blue Gogeta stayed as Blue, was because most of the battle he was in Base and Super Saiyan.
Actually he explained somewhat that it is hard to defuse a fusion dance character though you can make the fusion defuse faster if they waste more stamina or a lot of ki thats why gotenks defused in 5 minutes he didnt knew the weakness of ssj3 and detransformed and then defused meaning he lost all of his ki and stamina in the fusion
I disagree to fuse with the fusion dance you have to have equal power, more often than not a character will have to decrease his power to even fuse making the fusion worse
I think potara handles power just as well I'll make a comparison Vegito, when using mastered ssj1, lasted for a full hour he started at base and then went ssj Gogeta, when using mastered ssj, a full 30min started at ssj Vegito, when using imperfect ssb, lasted less Gogeta when using a perfected ssb lasted a full 30 min
The thing about the article that says they are equal in power is quite dodgy because in the Dragon Ball Z Manga it is stated that Potara fusion is much stronger by the elder Kai. Then again that was when we were under the impression that it was permanent. Now we know it has a time limit and they defuse when using too much power so I think it is easy to say that Gogeta would win in a 1 on 1 fight using the same power at Super Saipan Blue seeing as Vegito would defuse way sooner.
Which is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Pretty much renders Potara useless since on top of that, fusion dance is more convenient. It's not like they're always gonna have a pair of earrings sitting in their pockets.
I think a fusion between those two would be great either way, however the Potara Earrings give a "rivalry boost" so I think it would be more beneficial if Tien and Yamcha fused with the earrings. But Tien and Krillin would be powerful either way
I feel like it depends on the situation. If you're certain you can defeat your opponent quickly even if using a transformation and don't have a compatible partner for the Fusion Dance or neither of you is well practiced with the dance, then the Potara are better, but if you don't think you can quickly win, don't have access to Potara, or you do have a suitable partner and you're both skilled with the Fusion Dance, that would make it more optimal. Also, well it is easier to disrupt than the Potara, the Fusion Dance takes all of about 5 seconds to perform, so I don't think performing the dance itself is as big a downside, although having to get it perfect for results is certainly a mark against it.
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Potara is way stronger period. it was stated by supreme old kai directly from Akira's script Gogeta wasn't even created by Akira Toriyama Shueisha the company that created Gogeta and the movie Broly said that they were equal just to promote their movie Broly while Akira has never said a thing about they being equal, as far as we know all Akira has said is that the Potara Fusion is way stronger = Vegito >>> Gogeta!
@@zxa03 no gogeta has canonically defeated one enemy being broly and vegito fought someone who he could easily defeat but wanted to save his friends and fused zamasu who is a fucking immortal god with infinite zenkai boosts being half saiyan and half regenerative who even if gogeta was put against zamasu the outcome would be the exact same smh
Lolomus I doubt the result would be the same as vegito considering gogeta has soul punisher which I’m prettty sure you know how it works. Gogeta was able to throw so many attacks while vegito defused from doing a single final kamehameha. Hell this even happen in the manga. Even after gogeta throw a full force kamehameha he was still standing and even had time to catch Frieza. I highly doubt he would end up the same as vegito.
Most likely scenario is that they would fuse together just like any other person, it would be 4 people in 1 body. If 2 dance fusions wore the potara, depending on how powerful the fusion would be, they'd probably defuse really quickly and then go back to being separate beings. UNLESS if one of the fusees is a Kaioshin, just like what we saw with Zamasu. If 2 potara fusions did the dance, I think it would be the same. They'd be able to maintain the fusion but would defuse a bit quicker depending on how much power they use.
@01:01 From left to right (and downwards): The heroes are: • Vegito (SSJ, SSB, SSG, SSJ2 and base) and • Gogeta (SSJ, SSJ4, SSB, SSJ2 and base) @01:03 the villains shown are, in offer from left to right (and from up to down): • Zamasu (fused) • Broly (LSSJ) • I don’t know this one, somebody help please • Super Buu (Gohan-absorbed) • Janemba (Perfect form) • Omega Shenron
@00:13 the subtitles say “the meki” instead of “namekian” @00:27 the subtitles read “Abbott are” instead of “Potara” @01:34 “Patara” instead of “Potara”
Potaro is stronger, but is at a disadvantage. Having to put an earing on in the middle of combat is risky, then the fusees have to move to each other, which can be interrupted. And any large overuse of Ki can instantly disrupt the fusion. Not to mention that even though more power can shorten the Fusion Dance, they can instantly do it again. Of course, it isn't as bad as I put it out to be, but the points do stand.
Well since when you use the metamoran fusion method you can exert more power and use higher powered transformations even tho you have to get the pose right and you have to be at the same power but what comes out is better than potara tbh because with potara true you have more time but if you try to use a form like ssj or ssb you’re time decreases to me that’s to big of a flaw so for sure I would go with metamoran but ethier way both fusion methods are equally powerful and badass so I ain’t complaining
Not saying it’s weaker but now it seems the fusion dance is better because it allows you to maximize your power for as long as you want making it useful to finish enemies and you don’t defuse like vegito would
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Potara is the best, you seem a cool person who does his research before throwing stuff without facts as Gogeta fanboys do, you just won a subscriber!
@@dummyalex4781 i meant techniques...Transformation gotenkz created moves to use against buu by creating them to be used in gotenkz form and same goes for gogeta ..gogetas soul punisher..but i was talking bout transformations like kaioken and stuff
@@thomasmathew6128 bro they could use that too lmao kamehameha is a technique which gogeta can use while vegeta doesnt know it nor ever learned how to use it he prolly can go kaioken as well but it hasn't prolly cause the writers never thought to use that if u dont count dbh
So from what I can understand by watching this is, that Gogeta can achieve Ultra Instinctual Ego by combining both forms but will be impossible for somebody like Vegito because he would defused before it ever comes to fruition due to Goku and Vegeta not knowing the other. Like Whis stated Ultra Instinct doesnt suit his style so it be hopeless to learn it without abandoning his own Ultra Ego style and the same must apply to Goku vice-versa. But due to Metamora Fusion they become symmetrically one thereby combining their styles which would make it possible to combine their forms without defusing first.
Got a question to ask, with a proper training using the fusion dance, with it enhance the time limit of fusion dance? Like gotenks in dbz lasted for 2 or 3 equisodes
From what I know, you can't increase the time limit, but if goku and vegeta master their forms, it will help gogeta and vegito drain less ki while using those forms. That's gogeta blue lasted more than vegito blue
I they would have to do the dance. Im not too sure what would happen if a potara fusion took off one of the earrings but I would just take a while guess & say that they would defuse
Thank you! Also not necessarily, the limitations and the rules behind the Fusion Dance were different back when GT came out (Super kinda messed around with those rules like they did with the Potara), so he defused early because of the sheer power behind the Super Saiyan 4 form. Essentially, GT Gogeta defused for the same exact reason that Vegito Blue did, he was just too powerful. That’s just how it was back in the day because the rules of the fusion were different than what they are now.
Goku(fusion dance) fusing with vegeta(fusion dance) using potara earrings or the other way around how long will it be and how strong will it be? The goku fusion and vegeta fusion is goku fusion with goku from another dimension same goes with vegeta.
If we go with the super rules the dance is better If we go with z rules the potarais better The dance doesn't need exact powers just 2 powers that are close to eachother Back in the buu arc the dance had a 1 hour cooldown state which means frieza fought broly for 3 hours
I think they are equally balanced, When kefla was born she was on the same or similar level to ssj blue goku, In the broly movie, goku blue and vegeta blue and broly were pretty equal, but broly still had an advantage because he was facing split powers,when gogeta was born it seemed like the strength of ssj b vegeta +ssjb goku. He had the combined strength but did better because it was actually added. So base gogeta-2 super saiyan blue users(30 mins time limit) Base vegito-1 blue user(1hour time limit) So gogeta has more power than vegito but smaller time to remain fused. Potara base=(A+B) x10 mil Metaphor base=(strongest forms of A and B combined)
@@scopedin2990 For whatever reason they just nerfed vegito specifically especially in the anime and they seemingly buffed gogeta in the movie. No way gogeta is able to last longer in blue with the amount of damage output he was dealing to Broly unless you're telling me the Final Kamehameha is THAT OP
So... Fusion Dance = 30min and Perfect Control of energy BUT take a lots of time for the dance / Potara = 60min, fastest and easiest way of merge. No difference in power (srry for broken english)
I don't think so since I believe they say it's only permanent with "Kaioshins" specifically, not with all of the gods. That's why it was permanent with Zamasu, because he was a Kaioshin
Interesting idea, it would probably just be the same result as regular humanoid fusion except they're bigger and their power multiplier is heightened. It'd be funny to see a Great Ape in a fusion vest though lol.
If you watched all of Buu saga. You would have know that when Old Kai gives Goku the Potara earrings, he said the Potara fusion is significantly stronger than the fusion dance.
I mean the shonen jump put it out they are equally powerful, the potara just longer and any one can fuse Potara also take on the most dominant personality which is vegeta, where fusion dance is the vice versa, mentioned in dbz
The real question is if both fusions can be used together. If Goku and Xeno Goku used the Potara Fusion to extend their Natural Power (same goes for Vegeta and Xeno Vegeta) and then Merged Goku uses the Fusion Dance with Merged Vegeta would this be practical?
Fusion dance seems easier because you don’t gotta go find a Kai to get the earrings and the dance magnifies the power. PLUS the dance doesn’t have a power limit unlike the potaras you can’t use full power with potara
Has anyone here played Budokai 3? Because I'm wondering which fusion method is better in budakai 3. Because potara is permanent why the fusion dance is only 30 seconds at maximum 15 at minimum. I actually feel like fusion dance is better if you are focused on winning because if you use super Saiyan gogeta for example you have 30 seconds to finish it and it makes me go all out and not waste any of of my very limited time Fusion dance pros: -Stronger fusion -infinite ki -time limit Fusion dance cons: -time limit. -weaker fusion -30 second debuff when failed -harder to do it. Potara pro: -infinite time -more consistent -easier fusion Potara cons: -crippled if failed -limited ki
Man how could you say that only potara fusion has greater natural power? Even when gogeta fused to fight broly he started off in his natural form afterwards matching with his super saiyan form. I just wanna know where was it written as such anyways??
It was stated by the old Kai to be stronger than the dance, thus its natural power is greater. It’s power output may not be as good and the time limit may have gotten retconned, but the statement on natural power still has yet to be debunked.
The potara fusion is stated to be the perfect fusion. The fusion dance relies on power levels. Goku had to lower his power level to vegeta to do the fusion dance. Unequally matched characters can fused with the potara earrings and both characters are at full power with the potara earrings. Vegetio is stronger than gogeta
Wym where it’s written they literally said it on the tv show. U gogeta fanboys are so delusional and shouldn’t be allowed to watch dragon ball z. U all jus can’t accept the facts 🤡💯
Why tf did you use GT as a source? Also, it has never been stated that Metamoran fusion lacks a power strain, that's complete head Canon. Gogeta still fought in his base form and worked his way up to blue to avoid exerting too much power *early on* (that's the condition btw, not just general power increase). It is neither confirmed nor denied but it is *implied* Metamoran fusion has the same sustainment problems as Potara. I know you're trying to give Gogeta a crutch because you know that Potara is better and you think you're being too harsh. Hear me out. Maybe the universal fusion method created by the gods *may* be better than a technique conjured up from a rinky dink planet in the middle of universe 7, just maybe.
I also considered that as a factor as to why Gogeta lasted longer than Vegito. I also considered that Gogeta's fight was just visually longer than Vegito's. Cause I mean what would be the point in using Potara if at full power, Gogeta would last longer than Vegito especially when the difference between their power is either very small or non-existent. Not to mention fusion dance is more convenient than Potara. It's not like they got the Kai on speed dial.
Looool facts man unfortunately toriyama said they’re equal though and gogeta can last guaranteed 30 minutes whilst vegito has a time limit dependant on how much power output is being exerted. :( #stopnerfingvegito
A way to get vegito v gogeta in super: vegito is more vegeta and gogeta is more goku so if they have a discussion abt who is stronger, they used the multi form technique and then they fight.
I diagree actually.. vegito looks more like vegeta and gogeta looks more like goku however vegito personality is predominately goku and gogeta is predominately vegeta
potara all the way 1 they have fussed cloths not just the same old tacky cloths 2 can be used in battles on the spot instead of running away and 3 lets all not forget the fusion dance has to be perfect every time and if you screw up even by the angle then it will not work meaning it has to be done 100% so yes i would defo say potara as its more easy, looks more like a fusion and has its own power
Also Old Kai says that using the earrings as Super Saiyan could effect them while Gogeta in Fusion Reborn turns into a Super Saiyan while Goku and Vegeta are fused in base form.
@@perfectcell8379 I mean is when Goku and Vegeta fused with the earrings they weren't Super Saiyans because Old Kai said it might effect their energy but in Fusion Reborn when they fuse using the fusion dance in base form their so powerful that Gogeta becomes Super Saiyan within the fusion. Base form means the Saiyans normal form without becoming super saiyans.
You say that Vegito is good for situations in which Goku and Vegeta want to stall for time and wear out their opponent so I ask you this: why would they ever want to do such a thing? Why not simply use the method that has a set in stone time limit and finish the battle as quickly as possible? Just stalling for time doesn't make any sense and doesn't sound like something Goku or Vegeta would do.
@@resistancefighter888 Sure, what if in a scenario when someone else gains a power stronger than Goku or Vegeta at the time (i.e Gohan or even Beerus) and all they can do is fend off a bad guy until said fighter can arrive on the battlefield? Putting an earring on is much easier and faster than performing a dance and it would determine life or death if this bad guy wasn't one to wait around, so in this scenario, Potara would make more sense. This scenario most likely wouldn't ever happen with the direction the franchise is taking now, but it's the exact same thing as Super Saiyan transformations. Why use Super Saiyan 2 if you can just use Blue? It depends on character actions and plot significance
@@InnovativeJdawg You said it yourself, that scenario will likely never happen which is why I find the existence of both fusions in the canon story unnecessary, like they were too afraid to let Vegito go even though there's isn't much reason to prefer one method over the other since they both have time limits now. Also I should have said it earlier but great video! It really shows you went the extra mile to present every pro and con of every method.
MC Dzrake Because we just haven’t seen one? Why isn’t there a Super Saiyan God Vegito? We just haven’t seen these things yet but that doesn’t mean they aren’t possible.
I loved this video but I believe they are nerfing Vegito by not giving him wins so Gogeta fans can only argue about that....but I love both fusions yet Vegito is more entertaining that's why his my preference
So what is Potara not worth using anymore? What's the point in using it if regardless of the hour time limit, the fusion becomes shorter than fusion dance when you draw out your full power? I mean Vegito maybe stronger, but it's not like Gogeta is that far behind and he has 30 mins to get things done at full power while Vegito has like what 5-10 mins? That's a big L on their part.
they will make Gogeta last longer its a movie they have to make it more visually appealing to the audience its the rules. Imagine if Gogeta only lasted 5-10mins as well that would the biggest blue balls/anti climax moment ever, there is a massive difference between how the production of the series and the movies are made. I'm pretty sure if Gogeta was in the place of Vegito against MZ he would get the same amount of screentime Vegito got originally.
@@devanplays3509 Well I mean that has been my main argument against people saying that Gogeta lasts longer than Vegito at full power. That Gogeta's fight was visually longer than Vegito's. But I'm seeing everywhere that Blue drains Vegito's time and not Gogeta's, even in this video.
And then there are people who play dragon ball maps in warcraft frozen throne who do both fusions at the same time and get Gogeta with potara earrings and fusion dance items or Vegito with fusion dance and potara earrings items neither look bad.
Well now ofcourse both fusions are equal in power because goku and vegeta are equal in power both fusions get the full power but i'd say vegito is slightly more powerful thanks to the rival boost they get but the dance holds longer even with blue
Power over time staying fused longer does not mean better when fighting an over powered being. Besides out of the three times we see Gogeta he’s completed 2 fights as the victor and the two times we see vegito has not completed a full fight to date.
Those two times where Gogeta won a fight, were both in movies so there really wasn’t enough time to drag on a fight and have the two defuse for drama, like what we’ve seen with Vegito.
@@InnovativeJdawg this is true but you said the key word “drama” we see fights that take 20 episodes and most of it is a long pauses with dramatic music in the background, if we are to take the fight at face value with gogeta and vegito, vegito easily over powered his opponents but never finishing the fight. And yes being that gogeta has been in both movies not giving time for a drawn out fight but this is my point his character is straight too the point with little to no words to his opponent to finish it.
The potara is only apermanent fusion if a supreme kai is involved.. the only drawback to the earrings is the increased power drains the time too fast... the earrings are a far more powerful fusion
I will forever will prefer Vegito over Gogeta, but as soon as i make a comment about Vegito being more powerful than Gogeta and me prefering Vegito, all the Gogeta fan boys think i hate the fusion dance and Gogeta, i really don't, Gogeta is freaking awesome but Vegito is my guy. Also Gogeta has the coolest hair in Dragon Ball ever, the tall spikey hair with the one bang, so freakin' cool.
Yeah he did, and for a while it was considered to be true. However recently with some potara retcons and interviews coming out around the release of DBS Broly, the two have been stated to be on par with each other now.
Gogeta is a great pick for killing slash punishing an evil enemy if it was gogeta vs zamasu soul punisher (which was used on broly and did nothing casuing gogeta to smile seeing broly is good) zamasu would've died/be cleansed
I prefer fusion dance because it's kinda like higher price higher reward it takes a while to get it down but when you do get it down you get a better result for most occasions in my opinion, you get more power but for less time which, again my opinion, is a better bargain than less power for a longer time. Although in GT the fusion was shortened due to SSJ4's immense power, GT isn't canon, and in the Broly movie, Gogeta used SSJB for the entire fight and didn't defuse because of his immense power, so I feel like the fusion gets shorter because of power aspect was either forgotten or removed for the canon fusion dance
Both have there pros and cons for instance.
Dance pro: You don’t need a item to fuse
Dance con: You need time to do the dance
Potara pro: Your stronger than you would be if you did the dance and it’s faster than the dance.
Potara con: You need the potara Earrings Which in a Practical Sense Would not be common For any person unless there a god to have.
another con of the dance is that it only lasts 30 mins and the potara lasts for an hour. Although the more Ki the fighter uses can shorten the time limit drastically. But you know dragon ball time is also pretty unreliable so it's hard to say.
@@stoinkydoinky4583 im pretty late but i think this is how it works. Fusion dance doesnt have a energy limit
So for ex. Gogeta can use energy as long as he wants (given that he has the energy to do so)
potara ex. Vegito has a limit to energy even though he has more energy
So to recap the pros and cons
Fusion dance
Pros:
You can do the dance everywhere and you dont need a specific item to use it
You dont have a energy limit
Cons:
The dance takes a lot of time and you need to learn it
It only lasts 30 minutes
Potara earings
Pros:
You can fuse with anyone and you dont need to learn it as long as you have the potara earings. Its a faster fusion too
You have a 1 hour limit
Cons:
You need the potara earings which the comment said. Is not common and people who own it are probably gods
You have a energy limit
Also the gods (i forgot who said it) did say the potara was "better" than the dance but he probably meant that it was just faster. So i think they are equal in terms of power and speed
@@masteryo4982 I was talking about how in the Goku Black arc the potara only lasted 30 mins instead of the actual 1 hour. And the supreme kai of universe 10 explained that the reason that happened was because of vegito using ssjb which burned through a shit ton of energy to use. Which in turn shortened the time of the potara fusion. The potara fusion is not just "1 hour" it varies depending on energy output
@@stoinkydoinky4583 Yeah.
I think that the potara has a energy limit and the fusion dance dont because Gogeta used a ton of moves against broly and WHILE at super saiyan blue and didnt even sweat and Vegito didnt used that many abilities and yet defused fast
Vegito could probably last an hour if he only stays at base form.
@@masteryo4982 yes the fusion dance has a limit as we see with gotenks against super buu
@InnovativeJDawg: So, on one hand, you have the convenience and base natural power at a higher output level via an accessory. But then, on the other hand, you have a more refined merging of powers by via prep and technique, resulting in much greater potential in power output.
No one:
Me: Imagine doing the Metamoran Fusion Dance while wearing the Potara Earrings.
Ikr
Those are called Potara Dance.
Tio cópia Goku
Potara Dance (Potara Dominant)
Dance Potara (Dance Dominant)
Lol 😂
I believe that while it's easier to use potara earrings. That can be taken away from you so the perfection of the fusion dance is a necessity for these guys. Potara fusion is badass but earrings are breakable. Having access to both like they do are why goku and vegeta are ultimate warriors as a team.
I agree, it's great that Goku and Vegeta have access to both forms of fusion and it definitely boils down to convenience for the Potara, or the perfection of the Dance.
Great video! Casting aside the debate itself, you kept it on equal ground by showing a lack of bias. At the end of the video, you explained how you prefer the Potara (I do too tbh), but instead of throwing out a bunch of talking points, you gave the Fusion Dance fair grounds so that we can decide what is truly more effective. Rather than controversial, this video appears to be far more educational, aside from when you admitted to being a fan of the Potara. This is how I feel about this video, and I hope my criticism helped you in some way! Keep up the good work!
Hey thanks for your thoughts! I did my best trying to balance out both fusions and express them on equal footing, so glad you appreciated it!
R.I.P Vegtio was the strongest until they decided to give him a HUGE Nerf.
Another Pro/Advantage about Potara: _Better clothes(since they fuse as well)
That’s true, as much as I like the Fusion Dance outfit, I like the variability with Potara. Makes a lot of cool matchups
That is more of a bonus
Vegito>>>>>>gogeta
Dawg. You hatin on my manz capri vest tho?! Niiig you better chill with that
@@Dragons4Dummies what if they fused in the North Pole or something that has ice or snow using the dance there and they gonna get a cold
Just have 2 duos use Potara earnings and then fuse with the fusion dance
You right
Do vegito (potara) and Gogeta (fusion dance)
I wonder if vegito and kefla could do the fusion dance... Kefito anyone?
@@howto3915 tf???
Potara Dance is when you wear the Potara Earrings and then do Fusion Dance.
Anyone who gains a power up through dance moves earns my respect
I love both fusions I prefer gogeta a little more but I think each are useful gogeta is good for getting shit done in a flash (as long as it's not ssj4 gogeta) and vegito is better for longer fights the only thing I dont like about each fusion is for the fusion dance it's a pain in the ass to pull off correctly and for the potara earrings if you go to super saiyan blue then your time limit is shorter
Remember when there wasn't a time limit and vegito literally trashtalked buu for half an hour.
@@jpupper428 *sigh* the good old days right? Miss those days
the fusion dance only lasts 30 mins. that's such a Vegito move though just talk shit as long as you possibly can.
You can have your hour but at the same time I would wanna be blue longer Gogeta fan for life
Black Knight #1 Hero 101 yeah but when do you need it, we’ve seen goku and vegeta fuse 3 times and 2/3 times there full power wasn’t even needed. Vegito was toying with buu for an hour not even trying to kill him and gogeta going blue on broly was simply overkill. Zamasu was the only threat where the fusions full power was needed, and I’m pretty sure if we’re gonna see them fuse agin there opponent want be strong enough to fight them.
Ultra Space time J Vegito wasnt really toying with buu, he was weakining buu menatally and physically to the point where buu had to absorb vegito. Vegito wanted to be absorbed so that he could save his family and friends that were also absorbed by buu. Gogeta is more of the “get the job done” type of fighter. Gogeta doesnt need earings, just learn the dance from piccolo and your set. Gogeta can also go blue for the full duration of the fusion while Vegito just uses up all his time to stay in blue. However Vegito is stronger and can be done with anyone, doesnt need any dancing. Basically, as the video says, its really up to the fighting situation.
@Luke Thomas yes but he was doing it for a reason.
GOGETA FOREVER
@Luke Thomas no one cares about your comment too. What's the point of saying this in a comment section?
Something I would have loved to have seen at this point is a fusion between two different species. Like for example, how about a Saiyan/namekian fusion? Think about it, the natural abilities of both races would be a part of the fusion. The Zen Kai ability combined with a namekian's regeneration for example. And all of the abilities will be amplified by Super Saiyan, including the namekian ones.
I agree, a fusion between two different species would be really cool. The closest we've gotten to it was Goku Black fusing with Zamasu since one was in a Saiyan body and the other was a Kaioshin.
I would like more potara if it wasn’t for the fact that exerting more power decreases he time limit
Potara con, : It's as useful as the writer wants it to be.
its almost impossible for you to destroy the potara the only way is if that persons ki is gone completly cause they infuse there ki into it as if its part of their body
Potara Earings:
1. Requires Earings to Fuse
2. perfectly Fuses two beings regardless of power level between them
3. Permanent for Gods, not Permanent for Mortal
Fusion Dance:
1. needs to do the Fusion Dance
2. Requires Equal Power Level
3. 30 Minute limit
You forgot the 1 hour rule of the Fusion Dance
After you unfuse you have to wait 1 hour to wait to fuse again
However since Toei and Toriyama kept forgetting it just blows my reply
If there is a potara earing, just use it, its fast easy to use, and it has a really long time limit, if there isnt a potara earing than use the fusion dance, as long as you do it perfectly you will be fine, though it will be hard if it is your first time doing the technique.
Well said. Practicality is a huge positive for the potara earrings.
Fusion dance can also end early due to transformations, happened to gotenks in the time chamber
This^ the higher the power level, the less time the fusion lasts for. We just don't how long Gogeta lasted for against Broly and the same for Vegito against Zamasu
@@HareemByron it’s not about the raw power level. Rather, it’s due to the fusions using transformations that burn through their energy. Transformations just expend energy faster until mastered (this what explained in the cell saga)
So vegito in mastered ssj1 doesnt defuse early. Gotenks using ssj3 does because ssj3 eats through energy. SsjB is said to be pretty exhausting to use as well, hence why vegito defuses after going straight into ssjb. Gogeta fought mostly in base and ssj1, only going blue at the end.
@@OverlyEpux that's what I meant by higher power level so you're 100% right
Also note! The form determines the dominate personality. So the move set. Also i'd argue it also changes their mastery of a form. For instance vegeta is a better SSB user with royal blue. However goku has kioken, so its interesting.
From what I've observed, Potara is undoubtedly stronger but comes with a very notable weakness; The earrings when destroyed force the Fused Fighter to defuse as shown with Kefla during the Tournament of Power. And since the Dragon Ball Super Broly Movie has seemingly retconned the time limit before you are able to refuse, it overall makes the Fusion Dance a better option to use. Not because it is stronger, but it's easier to maintain. Some may say that the Fusion Dance also has better ki management then the Potara Fusion but I refute this as just lazy writing.
It's definitely up to whoever prefers which method. Both fusions have undergone many different changes over the years, so it's getting more inconsistent to balance the two and define which is accurately better
@@dawntay8107 The one where Vegito is a piece of candy and still beats up buu. Gogeta cant say he did that!
Isaak Kirkwood but vegito can’t say he shattered reality can he?
@@everyonesfavorite7560 Current Base Goku or Base Vegeta *rekts* Vegito (Zamasu arc)
@@callofdutychile no
You'd have to over the fusion to destroy the earnings since the earnings are linked to the power of the user so it's not really a disadvantage as long if your stronger the your enemy
What would be dope is the color of the potara representing the power level potential to hold the fusion together!!! Like how the yellow couldn't hold Vegito that long, but the green one holds it for 2 hours, but comes with it's own rules!!!
That’s actually a really cool idea, I like that!
I like both
They are cool fusion
What if Vegito stayed fused after Zamasu? This is different from Buu
There will be Vegito Black.
@@tiocopiagoku2875 how? After they fuse, Vegito probably still gets the universe erased, and then the T.O.P. happens.
@@davidlarkin1040 t.o.p?
@@josukehigashikata2248 tournament of power
@@gamerhatch9072 ok
Great stuff, bro! Though, I honestly disagree with the point of the Fusion Dance being able to exert more power than Potara. Do to Super Saiyan 3 being shown to greatly shorten the time limit to 5 minutes as opposed to the regular 30 of the Dance. And like you mentioned in GT with Super Saiyan 4 shortening Gogeta's time limit to 10 minutes. And honestly the appearance of the Fusion can last as long as the plot demands tbh, because time in Dragon Ball Fights varies.
Also...
#TeamVegetto😤
I can agree with those points, thanks for pointing them out! I think the time limit really just depends on how long the fusion needs to stay in the plot but to be fair, anything else could just boil down to what the writing calls for as well.
SSJ3 never shortened the time. Trunks in the manga when he was in the HBTC said SSJ3 only last 5 mins. There was no evidence that said or showed SSJ3 shortening the time. Read the manga and Trunks says that they can only hold SSJ3 for 5 mins not the fusion time
Team vegito
Effective potara but strongest fusion
Vice Versa Because You Can Perform The Dance At The Spot
In z universe potara ha effective and strongest then he get nerfed
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This is a pretty old video, but Fusion Dance can be dropped using more power. This happened with Gotenks, he was able to hold SSJ3, but he defused after 5(I think) minutes. Same with Gogeta SSJ4. The only reason Blue Gogeta stayed as Blue, was because most of the battle he was in Base and Super Saiyan.
Actually he explained somewhat that it is hard to defuse a fusion dance character though you can make the fusion defuse faster if they waste more stamina or a lot of ki thats why gotenks defused in 5 minutes he didnt knew the weakness of ssj3 and detransformed and then defused meaning he lost all of his ki and stamina in the fusion
If the two beings are equal I feel like fusion dance is better since it maximizes and handles power better.
I disagree
to fuse with the fusion dance you have to have equal power, more often than not a character will have to decrease his power to even fuse making the fusion worse
@@lewislaertes9525 fusion dance manages the power much better than Potara so in the end its a lot better
@@diamantemrobinson it's not
@@lewislaertes9525 yeah it is
I think potara handles power just as well
I'll make a comparison
Vegito, when using mastered ssj1, lasted for a full hour he started at base and then went ssj
Gogeta, when using mastered ssj, a full 30min started at ssj
Vegito, when using imperfect ssb, lasted less
Gogeta when using a perfected ssb lasted a full 30 min
The thing about the article that says they are equal in power is quite dodgy because in the Dragon Ball Z Manga it is stated that Potara fusion is much stronger by the elder Kai. Then again that was when we were under the impression that it was permanent. Now we know it has a time limit and they defuse when using too much power so I think it is easy to say that Gogeta would win in a 1 on 1 fight using the same power at Super Saipan Blue seeing as Vegito would defuse way sooner.
JD Ralph true my man
Which is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Pretty much renders Potara useless since on top of that, fusion dance is more convenient. It's not like they're always gonna have a pair of earrings sitting in their pockets.
What if two potara fusions, use the fusion dance, or two metronome fusions use potara earings
A tien and krillin fusion would work better with the potara earings wouldn't?
I think a fusion between those two would be great either way, however the Potara Earrings give a "rivalry boost" so I think it would be more beneficial if Tien and Yamcha fused with the earrings. But Tien and Krillin would be powerful either way
InnovativeJdawg Right thanks for replying bro anyway awesome job on the video.
@@InnovativeJdawg Oh yeah I wanna just a say that pikkon and piccolo fusion would great too.
I feel like it depends on the situation. If you're certain you can defeat your opponent quickly even if using a transformation and don't have a compatible partner for the Fusion Dance or neither of you is well practiced with the dance, then the Potara are better, but if you don't think you can quickly win, don't have access to Potara, or you do have a suitable partner and you're both skilled with the Fusion Dance, that would make it more optimal. Also, well it is easier to disrupt than the Potara, the Fusion Dance takes all of about 5 seconds to perform, so I don't think performing the dance itself is as big a downside, although having to get it perfect for results is certainly a mark against it.
Potara is way stronger period.
it was stated by supreme old kai directly from Akira's script
Gogeta wasn't even created by Akira Toriyama
Shueisha the company that created Gogeta and the movie Broly said that they were equal just to promote their movie Broly
while Akira has never said a thing about they being equal, as far as we know all Akira has said is that the Potara Fusion is way stronger = Vegito >>> Gogeta!
Gogeta have 2 movies and defeated 2 opponents and didn't defuse that's why gogeta>>>>>>>vegito
@@zxa03 no gogeta has canonically defeated one enemy being broly and vegito fought someone who he could easily defeat but wanted to save his friends and fused zamasu who is a fucking immortal god with infinite zenkai boosts being half saiyan and half regenerative who even if gogeta was put against zamasu the outcome would be the exact same smh
Lolomus I doubt the result would be the same as vegito considering gogeta has soul punisher which I’m prettty sure you know how it works. Gogeta was able to throw so many attacks while vegito defused from doing a single final kamehameha. Hell this even happen in the manga. Even after gogeta throw a full force kamehameha he was still standing and even had time to catch Frieza. I highly doubt he would end up the same as vegito.
Zelbeus gogeta had to beat an mentally disabled saiyan. He weak af
idk about the equal power level thing, it isnt really talked about like... ever, outside of GT at least, so I feel like that one is still iffy
With the fusion dance Gotenks was able to create all those weird moves
What happens if 2 dance fusions wear the potara
Or what happens if 2 potara fusions do the dance
Most likely scenario is that they would fuse together just like any other person, it would be 4 people in 1 body.
If 2 dance fusions wore the potara, depending on how powerful the fusion would be, they'd probably defuse really quickly and then go back to being separate beings. UNLESS if one of the fusees is a Kaioshin, just like what we saw with Zamasu.
If 2 potara fusions did the dance, I think it would be the same. They'd be able to maintain the fusion but would defuse a bit quicker depending on how much power they use.
@01:01 From left to right (and downwards): The heroes are:
• Vegito (SSJ, SSB, SSG, SSJ2 and base) and • Gogeta (SSJ, SSJ4, SSB, SSJ2 and base)
@01:03 the villains shown are, in offer from left to right (and from up to down): • Zamasu (fused)
• Broly (LSSJ)
• I don’t know this one, somebody help please
• Super Buu (Gohan-absorbed)
• Janemba (Perfect form)
• Omega Shenron
@00:13 the subtitles say “the meki” instead of “namekian”
@00:27 the subtitles read “Abbott are” instead of “Potara”
@01:34 “Patara” instead of “Potara”
Potaro is stronger, but is at a disadvantage. Having to put an earing on in the middle of combat is risky, then the fusees have to move to each other, which can be interrupted.
And any large overuse of Ki can instantly disrupt the fusion. Not to mention that even though more power can shorten the Fusion Dance, they can instantly do it again.
Of course, it isn't as bad as I put it out to be, but the points do stand.
They can’t do the fusion dance instantly agin, it has a 1 hour cool time but everything else you said makes sense
Potara Earrings in the most effective fusion method.
Nope it's confirmed Potara and Fusion have the same power level
@@capybara9521 is there a certain, reliable source that states this? Without contradictions?
@@capybara9521 to answer your statement. Potara is actually confirmed stronger by elder kai.
Well since when you use the metamoran fusion method you can exert more power and use higher powered transformations even tho you have to get the pose right and you have to be at the same power but what comes out is better than potara tbh because with potara true you have more time but if you try to use a form like ssj or ssb you’re time decreases to me that’s to big of a flaw so for sure I would go with metamoran but ethier way both fusion methods are equally powerful and badass so I ain’t complaining
The earrings are far more powerful..old kai makes that abundantly clear towards the back end of dbz
Gogeta for Result
Vegetto for Attention
*Legends :*
Not saying it’s weaker but now it seems the fusion dance is better because it allows you to maximize your power for as long as you want making it useful to finish enemies and you don’t defuse like vegito would
Potara is the best, you seem a cool person who does his research before throwing stuff without facts as Gogeta fanboys do, you just won a subscriber!
I’m glad we can agree on hating gogeta fanboys (although gogeta is cool by himself lol)
@@lolomuscousin8850 Gogeta is amazing...He is badass
But vegetto is better since vegetto can use both of their Abilities
The metamoran fusion can use both moves too Lmao and showed by gotenks even use moves neither know
@@dummyalex4781 i meant techniques...Transformation gotenkz created moves to use against buu by creating them to be used in gotenkz form and same goes for gogeta ..gogetas soul punisher..but i was talking bout transformations like kaioken and stuff
@@thomasmathew6128 bro they could use that too lmao kamehameha is a technique which gogeta can use while vegeta doesnt know it nor ever learned how to use it he prolly can go kaioken as well but it hasn't prolly cause the writers never thought to use that if u dont count dbh
So from what I can understand by watching this is, that Gogeta can achieve Ultra Instinctual Ego by combining both forms but will be impossible for somebody like Vegito because he would defused before it ever comes to fruition due to Goku and Vegeta not knowing the other.
Like Whis stated Ultra Instinct doesnt suit his style so it be hopeless to learn it without abandoning his own Ultra Ego style and the same must apply to Goku vice-versa. But due to Metamora Fusion they become symmetrically one thereby combining their styles which would make it possible to combine their forms without defusing first.
4:10 how about the old Kai fused by accident with an old lady without consequence
Got a question to ask, with a proper training using the fusion dance, with it enhance the time limit of fusion dance?
Like gotenks in dbz lasted for 2 or 3 equisodes
From what I know, you can't increase the time limit, but if goku and vegeta master their forms, it will help gogeta and vegito drain less ki while using those forms. That's gogeta blue lasted more than vegito blue
What if gotenks and vegito used potaro fusion with each other? Is that even possible?
H1ve M1nd use gotenks but gogeta instead of vegito. Since you can’t fuse again with potara
I they would have to do the dance. Im not too sure what would happen if a potara fusion took off one of the earrings but I would just take a while guess & say that they would defuse
Great video! The best analysis about this I've founded. I don't understand why Gogeta ssj4 defuse early. Is it because gt isn't Canon?
Thank you! Also not necessarily, the limitations and the rules behind the Fusion Dance were different back when GT came out (Super kinda messed around with those rules like they did with the Potara), so he defused early because of the sheer power behind the Super Saiyan 4 form.
Essentially, GT Gogeta defused for the same exact reason that Vegito Blue did, he was just too powerful. That’s just how it was back in the day because the rules of the fusion were different than what they are now.
Which do you prefer jdawg
If I had to choose, I'd say the Potara is the overall better method.
InnovativeJdawg but I don’t get it with the dance you can stay in blue form longer
@@proheraldsjr3000 he cant go blue can he ?
@@perfectcell8379 *gogeta laughs in meteor explosion*
I think that fusion ring method is more efficient as you don't need to have perfect angel or something
Team Vegito, But GT Gogeta SSJ4 Is Better Than Gogeta SSGSS
Goku(fusion dance) fusing with vegeta(fusion dance) using potara earrings or the other way around how long will it be and how strong will it be?
The goku fusion and vegeta fusion is goku fusion with goku from another dimension same goes with vegeta.
If we go with the super rules the dance is better
If we go with z rules the potarais better
The dance doesn't need exact powers just 2 powers that are close to eachother
Back in the buu arc the dance had a 1 hour cooldown state which means frieza fought broly for 3 hours
I dont think frieza fighy broly at all like he was a funky looking punching bag
Does this not count GT as cannon? Because in GT, ss4 Gogeta was only fused for 10 minutes, as their power output used a lot of the fusion dance time.
The fusions that I want to see are 1. Piccolo and Pikkon fusion. 2. Krillin and Tien fusion. I made video on both by the way so yeah 😁👍...
I think they are equally balanced,
When kefla was born she was on the same or similar level to ssj blue goku,
In the broly movie, goku blue and vegeta blue and broly were pretty equal, but broly still had an advantage because he was facing split powers,when gogeta was born it seemed like the strength of ssj b vegeta +ssjb goku.
He had the combined strength but did better because it was actually added.
So base gogeta-2 super saiyan blue users(30 mins time limit)
Base vegito-1 blue user(1hour time limit)
So gogeta has more power than vegito but smaller time to remain fused.
Potara base=(A+B) x10 mil
Metaphor base=(strongest forms of A and B combined)
My top 3favortite
1.Rosè Goku Black
2.Vegito Blue
3.UI Goku
Do you think we will see a Gogeta and Vegito Fusion. Like SSJ4 Gogeta and SSJBS Vegito fuse or vice versa???
I would say no, but...
The DB Heroes anime is pretty wacky so maybe in that series! The mainline series though, I don’t see it happening at all
Power levels just happen to be on par with one another but Potara just happens to be more convenient simply bc you can fuse on the spot.
Not only is it simpler potara was stated to be stronger. Theres no need to scale the potara vs Gogeta as potara is stronger
@@scopedin2990
For whatever reason they just nerfed vegito specifically especially in the anime and they seemingly buffed gogeta in the movie. No way gogeta is able to last longer in blue with the amount of damage output he was dealing to Broly unless you're telling me the Final Kamehameha is THAT OP
Nar the earrings are far more powerful than the dance lol. Old kai makes that abundantly clear
@@karljohnston1936 no that’s Been reconed they are both the same power
@@sentinal_entity vegito was never nerfed he had blue How is that being nerfed ?
So...
Fusion Dance = 30min and Perfect Control of energy BUT take a lots of time for the dance / Potara = 60min, fastest and easiest way of merge. No difference in power (srry for broken english)
Would ssj god affect the potara time limit at all? Since the potara fusion is only permanent with the gods
I don't think so since I believe they say it's only permanent with "Kaioshins" specifically, not with all of the gods. That's why it was permanent with Zamasu, because he was a Kaioshin
2:38 well that was plot working against the fanservice
What If two great apes fuse?
Interesting idea, it would probably just be the same result as regular humanoid fusion except they're bigger and their power multiplier is heightened. It'd be funny to see a Great Ape in a fusion vest though lol.
Potara is most efficient overall but fusion is stronger in terms of raw power alone
It’s literally the other way round...
Wasn't there a third way to do it
If you watched all of Buu saga. You would have know that when Old Kai gives Goku the Potara earrings, he said the Potara fusion is significantly stronger than the fusion dance.
Of course I know that, strength doesn't mean it's the more effective method, even if I like it more
Imo opinion if you have the potara then they’re better if you don’t then the dance
I mean the shonen jump put it out they are equally powerful, the potara just longer and any one can fuse
Potara also take on the most dominant personality which is vegeta, where fusion dance is the vice versa, mentioned in dbz
Potara Earrings is stronger.
The potara fusion is shorter.
The real question is if both fusions can be used together. If Goku and Xeno Goku used the Potara Fusion to extend their Natural Power (same goes for Vegeta and Xeno Vegeta) and then Merged Goku uses the Fusion Dance with Merged Vegeta would this be practical?
It would be bs and i feel bad for who has to fight that
@@scopedin2990 anything is possible specially since astral projection mastered ultra instinct Goku is currently happening in the DBS manga
Fusion dance seems easier because you don’t gotta go find a Kai to get the earrings and the dance magnifies the power. PLUS the dance doesn’t have a power limit unlike the potaras you can’t use full power with potara
Jaden Kelly oh shoot that’s true
Has anyone here played Budokai 3? Because I'm wondering which fusion method is better in budakai 3. Because potara is permanent why the fusion dance is only 30 seconds at maximum 15 at minimum. I actually feel like fusion dance is better if you are focused on winning because if you use super Saiyan gogeta for example you have 30 seconds to finish it and it makes me go all out and not waste any of of my very limited time
Fusion dance pros:
-Stronger fusion
-infinite ki
-time limit
Fusion dance cons:
-time limit.
-weaker fusion
-30 second debuff when failed
-harder to do it.
Potara pro:
-infinite time
-more consistent
-easier fusion
Potara cons:
-crippled if failed
-limited ki
#Team Vegito
Ptara since users dosent need similar power level and bigger multiplayer since regular can do all mortals easy
Man how could you say that only potara fusion has greater natural power?
Even when gogeta fused to fight broly he started off in his natural form afterwards matching with his super saiyan form. I just wanna know where was it written as such anyways??
It was stated by the old Kai to be stronger than the dance, thus its natural power is greater. It’s power output may not be as good and the time limit may have gotten retconned, but the statement on natural power still has yet to be debunked.
The potara fusion is stated to be the perfect fusion. The fusion dance relies on power levels. Goku had to lower his power level to vegeta to do the fusion dance. Unequally matched characters can fused with the potara earrings and both characters are at full power with the potara earrings. Vegetio is stronger than gogeta
@@killasniper2565 vegito isn't stronger.
@@pradhumansharma9770 he is stop being a causal
Wym where it’s written they literally said it on the tv show. U gogeta fanboys are so delusional and shouldn’t be allowed to watch dragon ball z. U all jus can’t accept the facts 🤡💯
Bruh this is a good video lol.
Thank you!
No problem at all man, keep up the good work!
The elder kai say that potara fusion is greater than dance fusion
The metamorans could enhance the dance in someways since theu created it
Why tf did you use GT as a source? Also, it has never been stated that Metamoran fusion lacks a power strain, that's complete head Canon. Gogeta still fought in his base form and worked his way up to blue to avoid exerting too much power *early on* (that's the condition btw, not just general power increase). It is neither confirmed nor denied but it is *implied* Metamoran fusion has the same sustainment problems as Potara. I know you're trying to give Gogeta a crutch because you know that Potara is better and you think you're being too harsh. Hear me out. Maybe the universal fusion method created by the gods *may* be better than a technique conjured up from a rinky dink planet in the middle of universe 7, just maybe.
I also considered that as a factor as to why Gogeta lasted longer than Vegito. I also considered that Gogeta's fight was just visually longer than Vegito's. Cause I mean what would be the point in using Potara if at full power, Gogeta would last longer than Vegito especially when the difference between their power is either very small or non-existent. Not to mention fusion dance is more convenient than Potara. It's not like they got the Kai on speed dial.
Looool facts man unfortunately toriyama said they’re equal though and gogeta can last guaranteed 30 minutes whilst vegito has a time limit dependant on how much power output is being exerted. :( #stopnerfingvegito
I like the dance better, because you would need to have the same power level or trying to work together.
A way to get vegito v gogeta in super: vegito is more vegeta and gogeta is more goku so if they have a discussion abt who is stronger, they used the multi form technique and then they fight.
I diagree actually.. vegito looks more like vegeta and gogeta looks more like goku however vegito personality is predominately goku and gogeta is predominately vegeta
If i say that Base Goku *rekts* Zamasu Arc Vegito, *everybody loses their minds*
*But its the truth tho*
It's actually not though. Goku and Vegeta did not get that much stronger after this arc
I agree, goku and vegeta were MUCH weaker in the black ark. I dont agree with him being able to defeat vegito, but vegito Is much stronger
Yah naw i gotta hit 3 on this verse. Vegito from black arc is stronger than goku in all forms except UI
No way man. Buu Saga vegito for sure but not future arc lmfao
potara all the way 1 they have fussed cloths not just the same old tacky cloths 2 can be used in battles on the spot instead of running away and 3 lets all not forget the fusion dance has to be perfect every time and if you screw up even by the angle then it will not work meaning it has to be done 100% so yes i would defo say potara as its more easy, looks more like a fusion and has its own power
With potara you don’t need to be equal power levels unlike fusion dance that itself is a disadvantage
Yes
Both are = in effectivity but the only thing that faults one off the other is time.
Earrings lasts longer but dance can handle more power
Agreed! They're both better in different situations
Also Old Kai says that using the earrings as Super Saiyan could effect them while Gogeta in Fusion Reborn turns into a Super Saiyan while Goku and Vegeta are fused in base form.
Mojo K yessss that’s a great point
@@mojok7070 dafuq does that mean ?
@@perfectcell8379 I mean is when Goku and Vegeta fused with the earrings they weren't Super Saiyans because Old Kai said it might effect their energy but in Fusion Reborn when they fuse using the fusion dance in base form their so powerful that Gogeta becomes Super Saiyan within the fusion. Base form means the Saiyans normal form without becoming super saiyans.
Goku and Vegeta should gather super dragon balls to wish that they become kais
then vegito becomes permanent again xD
You say that Vegito is good for situations in which Goku and Vegeta want to stall for time and wear out their opponent so I ask you this: why would they ever want to do such a thing? Why not simply use the method that has a set in stone time limit and finish the battle as quickly as possible? Just stalling for time doesn't make any sense and doesn't sound like something Goku or Vegeta would do.
Just because they wouldn't choose to stall for time doesn't mean it isn't ever an option.
@@InnovativeJdawg Can you think of a situation in which stalling for time would be a better solution than simply getting the job done?
@@resistancefighter888 Sure, what if in a scenario when someone else gains a power stronger than Goku or Vegeta at the time (i.e Gohan or even Beerus) and all they can do is fend off a bad guy until said fighter can arrive on the battlefield? Putting an earring on is much easier and faster than performing a dance and it would determine life or death if this bad guy wasn't one to wait around, so in this scenario, Potara would make more sense.
This scenario most likely wouldn't ever happen with the direction the franchise is taking now, but it's the exact same thing as Super Saiyan transformations. Why use Super Saiyan 2 if you can just use Blue? It depends on character actions and plot significance
@@InnovativeJdawg You said it yourself, that scenario will likely never happen which is why I find the existence of both fusions in the canon story unnecessary, like they were too afraid to let Vegito go even though there's isn't much reason to prefer one method over the other since they both have time limits now. Also I should have said it earlier but great video! It really shows you went the extra mile to present every pro and con of every method.
I don't know really, potara was changed so fusion dance being equal to potara is still entirely possible
No its not possible at all... old kai makes it abubdantly clear that the potara is a more powerful fusion
if you and your other fusee are both perfect at the dance and have the exact same power levels, dance is better. if not, potara is better
Couldnt Potara Use both the users abilities like kaioken ..or SSJ3
Both potara and the fusion dance are capable of using techniques and forms of their two people. They also can create their own unique techniques.
@@InnovativeJdawg .....Then why isnt there a SSJ3 Gogeta??(i am talking bout games)there is vegetto both Kaioken and SSj3
MC Dzrake Because we just haven’t seen one? Why isn’t there a Super Saiyan God Vegito? We just haven’t seen these things yet but that doesn’t mean they aren’t possible.
@@InnovativeJdawg SSGSS vegetto is there.so without super Saiyan god how can there be Super Saiyan god super Saiyan
@@InnovativeJdawg i guess u r right
I loved this video but I believe they are nerfing Vegito by not giving him wins so Gogeta fans can only argue about that....but I love both fusions yet Vegito is more entertaining that's why his my preference
So what is Potara not worth using anymore? What's the point in using it if regardless of the hour time limit, the fusion becomes shorter than fusion dance when you draw out your full power? I mean Vegito maybe stronger, but it's not like Gogeta is that far behind and he has 30 mins to get things done at full power while Vegito has like what 5-10 mins? That's a big L on their part.
they will make Gogeta last longer its a movie they have to make it more visually appealing to the audience its the rules. Imagine if Gogeta only lasted 5-10mins as well that would the biggest blue balls/anti climax moment ever, there is a massive difference between how the production of the series and the movies are made. I'm pretty sure if Gogeta was in the place of Vegito against MZ he would get the same amount of screentime Vegito got originally.
@@devanplays3509 Well I mean that has been my main argument against people saying that Gogeta lasts longer than Vegito at full power. That Gogeta's fight was visually longer than Vegito's. But I'm seeing everywhere that Blue drains Vegito's time and not Gogeta's, even in this video.
@@devanplays3509 I even considered the possibility that even though his fight was visually longer, he probably just ended his quicker.
@@wolfmanflame12 yeah true
And then there are people who play dragon ball maps in warcraft frozen throne who do both fusions at the same time and get Gogeta with potara earrings and fusion dance items or Vegito with fusion dance and potara earrings items neither look bad.
Well now ofcourse both fusions are equal in power because goku and vegeta are equal in power both fusions get the full power but i'd say vegito is slightly more powerful thanks to the rival boost they get but the dance holds longer even with blue
Power over time staying fused longer does not mean better when fighting an over powered being. Besides out of the three times we see Gogeta he’s completed 2 fights as the victor and the two times we see vegito has not completed a full fight to date.
Those two times where Gogeta won a fight, were both in movies so there really wasn’t enough time to drag on a fight and have the two defuse for drama, like what we’ve seen with Vegito.
@@InnovativeJdawg this is true but you said the key word “drama” we see fights that take 20 episodes and most of it is a long pauses with dramatic music in the background, if we are to take the fight at face value with gogeta and vegito, vegito easily over powered his opponents but never finishing the fight. And yes being that gogeta has been in both movies not giving time for a drawn out fight but this is my point his character is straight too the point with little to no words to his opponent to finish it.
I honestly think the dance is better, you can separate after 30 minutes if you don't want to stay fused your entire life
The potara is only apermanent fusion if a supreme kai is involved.. the only drawback to the earrings is the increased power drains the time too fast... the earrings are a far more powerful fusion
@@karljohnston1936
Nope, you get more power in the Potara than the Fusion dance 🩰
I will forever will prefer Vegito over Gogeta, but as soon as i make a comment about Vegito being more powerful than Gogeta and me prefering Vegito, all the Gogeta fan boys think i hate the fusion dance and Gogeta, i really don't, Gogeta is freaking awesome but Vegito is my guy.
Also Gogeta has the coolest hair in Dragon Ball ever, the tall spikey hair with the one bang, so freakin' cool.
didn’t elder kai say the potara was stronger
Yeah he did, and for a while it was considered to be true. However recently with some potara retcons and interviews coming out around the release of DBS Broly, the two have been stated to be on par with each other now.
Gogeta is a great pick for killing slash punishing an evil enemy if it was gogeta vs zamasu soul punisher (which was used on broly and did nothing casuing gogeta to smile seeing broly is good) zamasu would've died/be cleansed
I prefer fusion dance because it's kinda like higher price higher reward it takes a while to get it down but when you do get it down you get a better result for most occasions in my opinion, you get more power but for less time which, again my opinion, is a better bargain than less power for a longer time. Although in GT the fusion was shortened due to SSJ4's immense power, GT isn't canon, and in the Broly movie, Gogeta used SSJB for the entire fight and didn't defuse because of his immense power, so I feel like the fusion gets shorter because of power aspect was either forgotten or removed for the canon fusion dance
Actually. Elder kai stated that the potara are stronger than the fusion dance
@@scopedin2990 more strong* but he get nerfed
@@josukehigashikata2248 ?
@@josukehigashikata2248 if your correcting it stronger is the correct term
@@scopedin2990 yes
Hear me out. Wear potara earrings do fusion dance.
Hear me out. 2 pairs fuse, then use potara.