tldr: Everyone has something to offer the build team. Please come and help build this airplane. And here I thought I would be useless helping you guys... I know nothing about building airplanes, and my hands shake... As I watched the first batch of paint go in the cup, I was saying to myself, boy, that stuff, IF it comes out of the gun, is going to make a mess... Sorry, not trying to be a wise guy, but 50 years of heavy construction, fabrication, etc., teaches you a thing or two. I can't come help with the build, but if anyone out there thinks they wouldn't be able to contribute, they are wrong. The least of us sometimes see things nobody else sees.
@@Braeden123698745 50 years trying to work with my hands, just a bit of fabrication. I can't cut up my supper without spilling blood every now and then, probly a bad idea to try to build an airplane...
Only touch the side of the disk sander that is traveling down (right side). That way it pushes the part down into the table and is much more stable and easy to control. On the second part you sanded down, you did it on the left side, and that is why it was jumping around. 6th grade wood shop FTW!!!
Awesome thanks for that tip - I was wondering why it was jumping; I thought it might’ve had something to do with the material - Love learning from you guys!
Again, congrats on the Instrument Rating. I'm proud of you. At 5:33, Perry inspecting the cockpit, and behind him is an engine I would LOVE to see in the RV, even though it'll never fit or happen. But, hey, it's cool to dream! As to two pilots, I don't know if I've told this story on your channel on not. My father, a CFII and another CFII, pre-flighting a Cessna 150. One pilot takes the left side, the other takes the right side. Neither of them took off the rudder gust lock. Fortunately, a 150 can fly very nicely with no rudder, and once they figured it out, came back around, landed and took the gust lock off, and then took off again. But, ONE pilot in command, ONE pilot responsible for the airplane. Especially in a small airplane where two pilots do not normally fly together.
Your mistakes are our lessons. Thanks for your honest presentation of the process. So much to learn! Really appreciate all you are doing for the community. Keep up the great work!
Good point. This would have been a simple edit to bury the error but instead it's treated as a lesson. Great attitude. Some of that has rubbed off. Personally I find it easier as I get older to hold a hand up and let others see where I've gone wrong.
Thanks so much for including the mistakes! Knowing ahead of time where "simple" mistakes are hiding, makes them easier to avoid. God Bless you guys for taking the time to film and share this! Really cool stuff!
This is too good! I work at the assembly division at Vans and have shot this paint too many times to count. I started laughing at you after the first trigger pull on the paint gun🤣. Just to make you feel better Steve, I think you are the 4th or 5th person I know of who has mixed that paint wrong. Really excited for the build, I can’t wait to see the first flight! (Note: My comments here are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer.)
Hey, congrats on the IFR rating, Steve! 👍🍻 I spray painted the hood of my '72 El Camino about 20 years ago at my apartment complex in Phoenix. It was about 106°F out, probably 10% relative humidity that day - the paint was nearly completely dry by the time it hit the surface of the hood at about 14" back, which was how I always spray painted back in humid MA. Yep, it was getting fully tacky in the air! This created a finish exactly like 40 grit sandpaper - in fact, it felt just like it! It remained that way for the next 12 years until I sold it. The front edge was smooth, because by that point I had realized I had to hold the can about 4" from the surface to prevent that from happening. 😂 Bonus was, when I pulled out into the hot sun, the paint baked on to a super-durable finish. I had accidentally hit it with brake cleaner many times over the years, and it didn't even touch it. 😁
Congrats on the IFR 🤘😎 Fabrication, be it airplanes, cars, bikes or custom ornate spiral staircases is always a learning process. You caught the "Oops" quickly while it was fixable. That's plenty good enough.
Ever since I was a kid I have dreamed of building my own airplane. But since I lack the spare time, money and workshop space required i'll have to keep that on the "one day" list.... in the mean time I'm loving watching videos of your airplane take shape Steve! Keep 'em coming!
Can never remember, 2 parts Rum, 10 parts mix, or ? You got off easy ! Will never forget stripping, prepping, priming 185 wing. bit of work ! Top coat time so exciting ! Put wrong catalysts in mix ! ! ! looked great, never going to "dry" ! 100 steps backwards removing sticky mess ! ! Never did that again ! keep that mixing table clear of everything but essentials ! And read that recipe more than once ! Chemistry was barely mentioned in flight school ! Enjoying your channel and this build, reliving my childhood !
Good news all around Steve. Congrats on the flight test, I knew you could do it. Looking forward to more build updates.! Thank you for sharing.! Thumbs up and well done.!
Good stuff Steve, mistakes happen, but like you said if it doesn't feel right there's probably a reason. Congrats on your Instrument Rating! Looking forward to the update video!
I guess I didn’t think of all you guys doing a QuickBuild Fuse. I guess the Wings will be QuickBuild as well? Super cool! My empanage is well along the way, but we’re doing slow build on the fuse and wings with my builder assist build...good work on the Instrument Rating as well!
Your video is good in showing what is involved in a build. I always dreamed of building my own plane. Had the money but no place to build it. Now I have a place to build one but not enough money. Thank you for the video.
Congrats on passing I knew that you would actually we all knew that you would..... Awesome work on the build I so want to get my ppl now but have to get over this heart thing first....
Man, I love these videos. I'm not sure building will ever actually be in my future, but I sure wish it was. Until then, I'll have to live vicariously through you.
Awesome thanks! I’ll take credit for the over all story design and fine cut; but I have to give Brock credit for the music choices as he did the rough cut for this one.
Ahh... January 7th, the day I forgot my audio recording cables and finally heard something worthwhile on the radio, flight chops getting his Instrument Rating! Congrats! You sounded like a real pro.
Congratulations on getting the instrument rating done. You should be proud of that accomplishment. I am not sure how it is in Canada but in the US it is one of the hardest ratings to get so good for you!!!
I haven't painted (automotive) in a while but the temperature that you were painting at (you were wearing a cold weather hat) made me pause. The spray gun was old school. The last time I painted anything I used a Binks HVLP (High Volume Low Pressure) gun and it was amazing. Good thing you caught the reducer / primer issue early. You want to hold the nozzle perpendicular to what you're spraying not bend your wrist side to side.
@@FlightChops No worries. The gun I used was a Binks SV-100. It's a little pricey but the top cup / gravity feed and very nice paint distribution (saves on sanding time) was so much better than the Binks #7. I still have all of my painting equipment in storage (translated that means it probably all needs to be rebuilt). Congrats again on the instrument rating and I'm looking forward to more build videos
The minor-est of minor nitpicks, but from a human factors perspective writing that ratio as 2:3 instead to 1:1 1/2 would be much less error-prone. It's quite easy to mistake a 1 for a slash and just unconsciously treat it as another divider rather than a digit. In any case, thanks for the wonderful content, and I'm so happy to see the build progressing so well.
This is fantastic. I'm starting my RV9 next year (hopefully) so really interested in what you're up to. Keep up the good work - it's very inspirational. Jonathan, UK.
Sometimes... it is just sooooo reassuring to have... “an Old Guy” that’s “been there.. done that!” Looking over your shoulder! Call me and “old school engineer”... I don’t mind one bit!
Lesson learned: "Distractions will hurt you". I have been bit by that before. It takes discipline and training to clear your mind of all ancillary thoughts when you need to focus. Well that's my $0.02 anyways, cheers!
I really appreciate that you always show the mistakes 😠 made along with the successes enjoyed.🤗 that, to me, is the best way to teach as well as the best way to learn. Your honest,straightforward, approach makes your videos great 👍 training aids. Thanks, and congrats 🎉🎊 on your instrument rating. That’s a really great accomplishment and I’m jealous lol. Keep the good work.
One thing that really draws me to the aviation community is when people are humble and caring enough to put there mistakes out there for the betterment of the community; because lives may depend on it. As someone new to aviation; its something that you just don't see in other communities. Maybe I am romancing the idea.... I hope not... lol. What's your thoughts?
I made a simular mistake with hardener on 2K paint for a car, that cost me 2 weeks of prep and repaint, not to say a fair amount of cash, for new paint and all the stuff to clean off paint that would not go off! At least yours was on a few part and in the primer stage. Lesson for me is alway do a spray out card first to make sure you have the gun setting and mix right, especially when it comes to top coats.
Hmmm... FlightChops is doing his IR, he's done his multi-engine... question: will he be flying the Mosquito someday? :D Great vid as always Steve, with plenty of good lessons in there! Thanks!
Hi Steve. It doesn't look like you roughed up the surfaces of your parts. A scotchbrite pad or 320 grit sandpaper work well to make the primer adhere better. Good luck.
I noticed the same thing. I was given the tip that if you can see a reflection then it isn't ready for paint. The surface should be matt grey and throughly cleaned (although your hands wil be black from the scuffing dust lol). Over time with heat contractions the paint could start to lose it's grip. You can also do the tape test (get some gorilla tape and see if it pulls off the paint to check it is bonded correctly). Other than that it's looking good, lots of work but worth the effort in the end.
Yup, I scuff my parts with maroon Scotch-Brite and PreKote until there is no shine, when rinsed the water should sheet off and not break or bead for several seconds.
What??? You beat me on my Instrument rating? You were my inspiration for procrastination. Now what am I gonna use for an excuse. Congrats on your success. I did finally buy a plane. but Covid has slowed my picking it up from CA.
Haha - sorry to have removed your procrastination inspiration. But in all seriousness, yeah, the shut downs and quarantines have really crushed a lot of people’s training plans - I’m so glad I got the single engine IFR done before this, but it did stop my multi IFR training before it got started. Hopefully you and I can resume later this summer.
I'm watching this while waiting for replacement parts to arrive. Got my oil cooler location on the baffles wrong; too high; hits the top cowl. Going backward to go forward again. I found a few "gotchas" with the quickbuild; some steps that I thought were done that weren't; others I wish hadn't been done yet. Painting: major pain. Were those parts scuffed? Most paints won't adhere to the Alclad surface. Another Golden Rule: if it don't fit, don't force it.
Hey Steve, great video, Congratulations on the IFR and has a Professional auto body painter for 20 years in Massachusetts USA, give me a call if you need help paint the RV... keep the good work
In full disclosure, I am not a paint expert!!! however, I do paint a lot with standard hobby airbrushes in the micro-scale painting plastic models. When I see the spiderweb finish you were showing in the video it has always (with lacquer based primers)been an under-thinned paint situation.
NEVER wear gloves with stationary rotary tools! ('stationary' means 'not hand held'). This cannot be overstated. Peopled lose hands this way, especially on sanders.
Wow, I thought the same thing watching this and immediately went to comment but you guys already made the recommendation! Gotta keep those digits healthy!
For the next time you paint: if you're using respirators, you should probably be using goggles too. As a very different but relevant example, there was a C-141 crash where flaming paint in the cargo hold released cyanide smoke into the cabin air. Though the crew had oxygen masks on to keep from breathing in the cyanide, it entered their bodies through their eyes. The USAF subsequently added goggles to the emergency O2 masks, and recently upgraded them to an integrated mask/goggle system that is much more effective at sealing around the face. Because of this story, I regard anything that's dangerous to breathe in as equally dangerous to/via your eyes. Even if it's not toxic, the thought of getting vaporized paint in my eyes is not pleasant.
Suggestion on the quick build. When you review it against the plans make sure you're doing more than just a 'looks about right' check. While mistakes are rare I had several on mine where something wasn't match drilled or countersunk, or the wrong rivets were used.
We actually did a pretty thorough job - it was hard to capture the detail to that degree on camera... But as for your situation - Really? Wow. What kit do you have and when was that? Did you report it to Van’s?
@@FlightChops RV-10, got both the Fuselage and Wing kits April of '16. I didn't report any issues, just drilled out the rivets and countersunk and riveted with the correct ones. I'm sure I found other issues post initial inspection, just worked through them as they popped up.
Erector sets don't require skilled assembly techniques. ie. Is that riveted correct, what exact grease goes on this bolt and does it go under the head and nut or just on the threads(this very thing has cause helicopter crashes), does the tightening pattern(and rate) matter on that group of fasteners, does this cable have sufficient clearance to avoid binding or abrasion, will this section be inspected and serviceed or sealed off(if so does it need a final treatment), should this bit be safety wired, if this needs disassembly and reassembly can these screws/bolts be reused(some are designed such that they deform on assembly)?
@@mytech6779 which is what makes it all the more fun. Erector sets are for kids, and kids abilities. This is for an adult who liked erector sets as a kid, but wants the knowledge that he or she has gone above and beyond to build something that flies and will get you where you want to go safely.
All that deburring must get a little tedious! Top marks for sticking at it. Just a quick question, what's the black painted wing from at the back of the sprayshop? At a glance it looks like something off a WW2 heavy bomber.
Vans claims customers could build their aircrafts in a double car garage. I suppose. A person could sleep sitting upright too. Having a community of support ensures the airplane will fly one day, unlike the majority of kit planes.
I would love to do a custom paint job on a plane. I used to paint for Mercedes, BMW and luxury car dealers. Did some custom bikes and cars but never a plane.
A simple thing Vans can do on a quick build, is provide a sheet of paper that says, "in this quick build, reference instructions 6-1 through 12-10 (or whatever the case is for that section of the aircraft), are completed. Upon receipt, you can start building at Instruction step 13-1. It does not need to be published, but they should at least tell the customer where this quick build is complete to, so that they can assume building at the next step.. Sometimes the most obvious answer is the easiest. Vans should just tell the customer where to start after getting this part.
I'm WAY too late to THIS party, but I kept wondering (as an A&P) where's the Alodine 1201 conversion coating? I thought those pieces should have a pale gold hue before the Zinc Chromate primer goes on. Not so with Vans? Or is the primer better these days than when I learned about that stuff 14 years ago, and no longer needs that extra step?
tldr: Everyone has something to offer the build team. Please come and help build this airplane.
And here I thought I would be useless helping you guys... I know nothing about building airplanes, and my hands shake... As I watched the first batch of paint go in the cup, I was saying to myself, boy, that stuff, IF it comes out of the gun, is going to make a mess... Sorry, not trying to be a wise guy, but 50 years of heavy construction, fabrication, etc., teaches you a thing or two. I can't come help with the build, but if anyone out there thinks they wouldn't be able to contribute, they are wrong. The least of us sometimes see things nobody else sees.
I love this! Yes! Exactly
- thanks for the insight
Exactly!
50 years of fabrication? Yeah I dunno about that "useless guy" part
@@Braeden123698745 50 years trying to work with my hands, just a bit of fabrication. I can't cut up my supper without spilling blood every now and then, probly a bad idea to try to build an airplane...
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Only touch the side of the disk sander that is traveling down (right side). That way it pushes the part down into the table and is much more stable and easy to control. On the second part you sanded down, you did it on the left side, and that is why it was jumping around. 6th grade wood shop FTW!!!
Awesome thanks for that tip - I was wondering why it was jumping; I thought it might’ve had something to do with the material - Love learning from you guys!
Building is a HUGE learning experience. If at first you don’t succeed, you learn. BUILD ON!
I will always be impressed by the sight of that Mosquito towering over you guys in the background. That should be the next build VLOG....
Congrats on the IFR, Steve! Love that you just slipped it in at the very end...talk about burying the lead, LOL.
:) Thanks for watching to the end :)
Again, congrats on the Instrument Rating. I'm proud of you.
At 5:33, Perry inspecting the cockpit, and behind him is an engine I would LOVE to see in the RV, even though it'll never fit or happen. But, hey, it's cool to dream!
As to two pilots, I don't know if I've told this story on your channel on not. My father, a CFII and another CFII, pre-flighting a Cessna 150. One pilot takes the left side, the other takes the right side. Neither of them took off the rudder gust lock. Fortunately, a 150 can fly very nicely with no rudder, and once they figured it out, came back around, landed and took the gust lock off, and then took off again.
But, ONE pilot in command, ONE pilot responsible for the airplane. Especially in a small airplane where two pilots do not normally fly together.
Your mistakes are our lessons. Thanks for your honest presentation of the process. So much to learn! Really appreciate all you are doing for the community. Keep up the great work!
Good point. This would have been a simple edit to bury the error but instead it's treated as a lesson. Great attitude. Some of that has rubbed off. Personally I find it easier as I get older to hold a hand up and let others see where I've gone wrong.
Thanks so much for including the mistakes! Knowing ahead of time where "simple" mistakes are hiding, makes them easier to avoid.
God Bless you guys for taking the time to film and share this! Really cool stuff!
This is too good! I work at the assembly division at Vans and have shot this paint too many times to count. I started laughing at you after the first trigger pull on the paint gun🤣. Just to make you feel better Steve, I think you are the 4th or 5th person I know of who has mixed that paint wrong. Really excited for the build, I can’t wait to see the first flight!
(Note: My comments here are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer.)
^^ What he said. ;)
@Mr Ed I correct my comment: Steve I was laughing WITH you....
I'm restoring a 1964 Champion in my little shop, I would love to be able to work on it with a DH Mosquito in the background.
Thanks for the upload.
Right?! That hangar is a magical place.
The quality of these videos is always amazing
Appreciated!
Hey, congrats on the IFR rating, Steve! 👍🍻
I spray painted the hood of my '72 El Camino about 20 years ago at my apartment complex in Phoenix. It was about 106°F out, probably 10% relative humidity that day - the paint was nearly completely dry by the time it hit the surface of the hood at about 14" back, which was how I always spray painted back in humid MA. Yep, it was getting fully tacky in the air! This created a finish exactly like 40 grit sandpaper - in fact, it felt just like it! It remained that way for the next 12 years until I sold it. The front edge was smooth, because by that point I had realized I had to hold the can about 4" from the surface to prevent that from happening. 😂
Bonus was, when I pulled out into the hot sun, the paint baked on to a super-durable finish. I had accidentally hit it with brake cleaner many times over the years, and it didn't even touch it. 😁
Congrats on the IFR 🤘😎
Fabrication, be it airplanes, cars, bikes or custom ornate spiral staircases is always a learning process. You caught the "Oops" quickly while it was fixable. That's plenty good enough.
Ever since I was a kid I have dreamed of building my own airplane. But since I lack the spare time, money and workshop space required i'll have to keep that on the "one day" list.... in the mean time I'm loving watching videos of your airplane take shape Steve! Keep 'em coming!
Can never remember, 2 parts Rum, 10 parts mix, or ? You got off easy ! Will never forget stripping, prepping, priming 185 wing. bit of work ! Top coat time so exciting ! Put wrong catalysts in mix ! ! ! looked great, never going to "dry" ! 100 steps backwards removing sticky mess ! ! Never did that again ! keep that mixing table clear of everything but essentials ! And read that recipe more than once ! Chemistry was barely mentioned in flight school !
Enjoying your channel and this build, reliving my childhood !
Congrats on your Instrument!
Good news all around Steve. Congrats on the flight test, I knew you could do it. Looking forward to more build updates.! Thank you for sharing.! Thumbs up and well done.!
I appreciate that you watched to the end :)
@@FlightChops How could I not watch to the end.! You are a local boy and have enjoyed watching from the beginning. You the man.!
Congratulations on the flight test
Good stuff Steve, mistakes happen, but like you said if it doesn't feel right there's probably a reason. Congrats on your Instrument Rating! Looking forward to the update video!
Appreciated - and thanks for watching to the end!
I guess I didn’t think of all you guys doing a QuickBuild Fuse. I guess the Wings will be QuickBuild as well? Super cool! My empanage is well along the way, but we’re doing slow build on the fuse and wings with my builder assist build...good work on the Instrument Rating as well!
I enjoyed the commnity helping out and also learned a lot of small things that I took for granted.
Your video is good in showing what is involved in a build. I always dreamed of building my own plane. Had the money but no place to build it. Now I have a place to build one but not enough money. Thank you for the video.
It always amazes me to see how floppy airplane panels are until they're all put together. Good to see the build progressing, Steve!
Congrats on passing I knew that you would actually we all knew that you would.....
Awesome work on the build
I so want to get my ppl now but have to get over this heart thing first....
Best of luck with the health issues - that’s a tough one. And thanks for watching to the end.
Sport Pilot and an RV-12iS - no medical required!
Man, I love these videos. I'm not sure building will ever actually be in my future, but I sure wish it was. Until then, I'll have to live vicariously through you.
Love being able to live vicariously through the channel! And as AVE would say, measure once, cut twice, and it was still too short.. :P
DUDE CONGRATS!! im so happy you got that IR out of the way!
You should add "RV-14" to the video title, so that the video will pop up when people make a search.
Really nice editing. Love the sound track with its jazzy funk rhythms. Killin it Steve!
Awesome thanks! I’ll take credit for the over all story design and fine cut; but I have to give Brock credit for the music choices as he did the rough cut for this one.
Ahh... January 7th, the day I forgot my audio recording cables and finally heard something worthwhile on the radio, flight chops getting his Instrument Rating! Congrats! You sounded like a real pro.
Congratulations on getting the instrument rating done. You should be proud of that accomplishment. I am not sure how it is in Canada but in the US it is one of the hardest ratings to get so good for you!!!
There is no such thing as building something this big and not making any mistakes. It’s just the nature of the beast don’t sweat it!
Perry has the most intoxicating laugh. Every time he laughed I started laughing myself. Great vid as always.
I haven't painted (automotive) in a while but the temperature that you were painting at (you were wearing a cold weather hat) made me pause. The spray gun was old school. The last time I painted anything I used a Binks HVLP (High Volume Low Pressure) gun and it was amazing. Good thing you caught the reducer / primer issue early. You want to hold the nozzle perpendicular to what you're spraying not bend your wrist side to side.
Thanks for the insights
@@FlightChops No worries. The gun I used was a Binks SV-100. It's a little pricey but the top cup / gravity feed and very nice paint distribution (saves on sanding time) was so much better than the Binks #7. I still have all of my painting equipment in storage (translated that means it probably all needs to be rebuilt). Congrats again on the instrument rating and I'm looking forward to more build videos
Thanks - and I appreciate that you watched all the way to the end to catch the mention of the Instrument Rating
The minor-est of minor nitpicks, but from a human factors perspective writing that ratio as 2:3 instead to 1:1 1/2 would be much less error-prone. It's quite easy to mistake a 1 for a slash and just unconsciously treat it as another divider rather than a digit.
In any case, thanks for the wonderful content, and I'm so happy to see the build progressing so well.
At 5:33 I can see you already have the Merlin positioned in place for installation into the RV. Should be a perfect fit!
Hey Chops, keep up the great work! Build it right first, videos can come second...or third. I'd rather you had a safe plane versus a lot of videos.
Congrats on the IFR! That is super exciting. Looking forward the the rest of the build vlogs!
This is fantastic. I'm starting my RV9 next year (hopefully) so really interested in what you're up to. Keep up the good work - it's very inspirational. Jonathan, UK.
Hey Chops, Congratulations on your instrument ticket! That rating is a serious brain workout lol.
Steve you should give us a little tour of the hanger you in there, would love to see all the warbirds
Good idea - I'll do that in a future episode
Such good viewing -- thanks!
congrats on the IFR flight test!!! with that out of the way you'll catch all future mixture-ratio-math screw-ups in time !!
Its like anything. I can think of times I was not so wise to stop and re evaluate, and luckily it only cost me $$$ lol. Good job on the IFR too.
CONGRATS on the instrument rating!
Sometimes... it is just sooooo reassuring to have... “an Old Guy” that’s “been there.. done that!”
Looking over your shoulder!
Call me and “old school engineer”... I don’t mind one bit!
Lesson learned: "Distractions will hurt you".
I have been bit by that before.
It takes discipline and training to clear your mind of all ancillary thoughts when you need to focus.
Well that's my $0.02 anyways, cheers!
I really appreciate that you always show the mistakes 😠 made along with the successes enjoyed.🤗 that, to me, is the best way to teach as well as the best way to learn. Your honest,straightforward, approach makes your videos great 👍 training aids. Thanks, and congrats 🎉🎊 on your instrument rating. That’s a really great accomplishment and I’m jealous lol. Keep the good work.
One thing that really draws me to the aviation community is when people are humble and caring enough to put there mistakes out there for the betterment of the community; because lives may depend on it. As someone new to aviation; its something that you just don't see in other communities. Maybe I am romancing the idea.... I hope not... lol. What's your thoughts?
I made a simular mistake with hardener on 2K paint for a car, that cost me 2 weeks of prep and repaint, not to say a fair amount of cash, for new paint and all the stuff to clean off paint that would not go off!
At least yours was on a few part and in the primer stage.
Lesson for me is alway do a spray out card first to make sure you have the gun setting and mix right, especially when it comes to top coats.
Read the can. Thanks for the video and information. Have a blessed weekend. Shalom
Looks like fun Steve ! Maybe I’ll make it down to Windsor to help you one of these days !
That was delightful. I can’t wait for the next one.
Gotta have the “Timmy’s” coffee for days like this!
Great “heads up” on the painting. Thank you 😎
Hey on the bright side, at least it's easy to fix a botched prime & paint job without damaging any of the metal parts. :)
Congrats on the instrument rating Steve!
Hmmm... FlightChops is doing his IR, he's done his multi-engine... question: will he be flying the Mosquito someday? :D
Great vid as always Steve, with plenty of good lessons in there! Thanks!
Congrats on your instrument 😁
Thanks Dan!
That burn @ 16:40 ... *SAVAGE*
I am glad that you arent having to deal with trolls in the communuty.
Wait, I swear I heard Windsor at 8:36! Your channel is based in Windsor, thats so awesome!
Congrats on the Instrument Rating!
Congrats on the IR and Happy New Year.
Looks like those parts need some scotch brite work before paint.. pretty shiny!
Congrats on the IR!
These videos are great keep up with the good work
nice one steve. congrats on the test - love the channel
Thanks for watching to the end :)
@@FlightChops I alwasys do as your the best on you tube
Oops!! At least you figured it out. Very interesting build. Congrats on your IFR rating!
Hi Steve. It doesn't look like you roughed up the surfaces of your parts. A scotchbrite pad or 320 grit sandpaper work well to make the primer adhere better. Good luck.
Thanks - I'll pass that along to the crew
I noticed the same thing. I was given the tip that if you can see a reflection then it isn't ready for paint. The surface should be matt grey and throughly cleaned (although your hands wil be black from the scuffing dust lol). Over time with heat contractions the paint could start to lose it's grip. You can also do the tape test (get some gorilla tape and see if it pulls off the paint to check it is bonded correctly). Other than that it's looking good, lots of work but worth the effort in the end.
Yup, I scuff my parts with maroon Scotch-Brite and PreKote until there is no shine, when rinsed the water should sheet off and not break or bead for several seconds.
What??? You beat me on my Instrument rating? You were my inspiration for procrastination. Now what am I gonna use for an excuse. Congrats on your success.
I did finally buy a plane. but Covid has slowed my picking it up from CA.
Haha - sorry to have removed your procrastination inspiration. But in all seriousness, yeah, the shut downs and quarantines have really crushed a lot of people’s training plans - I’m so glad I got the single engine IFR done before this, but it did stop my multi IFR training before it got started. Hopefully you and I can resume later this summer.
5:33 You gonna put that Marlin in the RV lol😂
WooHoo! Needed something to get into the weekend !
I'm watching this while waiting for replacement parts to arrive. Got my oil cooler location on the baffles wrong; too high; hits the top cowl. Going backward to go forward again. I found a few "gotchas" with the quickbuild; some steps that I thought were done that weren't; others I wish hadn't been done yet. Painting: major pain. Were those parts scuffed? Most paints won't adhere to the Alclad surface. Another Golden Rule: if it don't fit, don't force it.
Woah..... IFR FlightChops congrats.
Thanks for watching to the end :)
Hey Steve, great video, Congratulations on the IFR and has a Professional auto body painter for 20 years in Massachusetts USA, give me a call if you need help paint the RV... keep the good work
Thanks for sharing your mistakes!
Still looking forward to build vlog 2149!
I want to see how you're going to fit that Merlin engine in!
Me too. Nice shot of the engine at 5:33.
In full disclosure, I am not a paint expert!!! however, I do paint a lot with standard hobby airbrushes in the micro-scale painting plastic models. When I see the spiderweb finish you were showing in the video it has always (with lacquer based primers)been an under-thinned paint situation.
Congrats on the instrument rating. \o/
THANKS! And I’m so happy to hear this many people are watching to the end :)
Be careful wearing gloves while using a sander. It could grab your glove and pull it along with your hand.
I was thinking the same thing! Never wear gloves when doing that sort of work!
NEVER wear gloves with stationary rotary tools! ('stationary' means 'not hand held'). This cannot be overstated. Peopled lose hands this way, especially on sanders.
Wow, I thought the same thing watching this and immediately went to comment but you guys already made the recommendation! Gotta keep those digits healthy!
Woooo! Congrats on the instrument rating! \o/
For the next time you paint: if you're using respirators, you should probably be using goggles too. As a very different but relevant example, there was a C-141 crash where flaming paint in the cargo hold released cyanide smoke into the cabin air. Though the crew had oxygen masks on to keep from breathing in the cyanide, it entered their bodies through their eyes. The USAF subsequently added goggles to the emergency O2 masks, and recently upgraded them to an integrated mask/goggle system that is much more effective at sealing around the face.
Because of this story, I regard anything that's dangerous to breathe in as equally dangerous to/via your eyes. Even if it's not toxic, the thought of getting vaporized paint in my eyes is not pleasant.
Wow yeah - that’s a nightmare. I did think about my eyes after that and decided not to do it again with out goggles of some sort
Suggestion on the quick build. When you review it against the plans make sure you're doing more than just a 'looks about right' check. While mistakes are rare I had several on mine where something wasn't match drilled or countersunk, or the wrong rivets were used.
We actually did a pretty thorough job - it was hard to capture the detail to that degree on camera... But as for your situation - Really? Wow. What kit do you have and when was that? Did you report it to Van’s?
@@FlightChops RV-10, got both the Fuselage and Wing kits April of '16. I didn't report any issues, just drilled out the rivets and countersunk and riveted with the correct ones. I'm sure I found other issues post initial inspection, just worked through them as they popped up.
This sort of thing is why I invested in a board stretcher.
I know! I got my board stretcher in a set with the oversized hole reducer and it came with a bonus roll of anti-skid slack!
So this is basically just a giant Erectors set. I want to try it.
A bit more complex, but yeah.
An erector set that if built wrong could kill you. And uses rivets instead of nuts and bolts. So yeah.
Erector sets don't require skilled assembly techniques.
ie. Is that riveted correct, what exact grease goes on this bolt and does it go under the head and nut or just on the threads(this very thing has cause helicopter crashes), does the tightening pattern(and rate) matter on that group of fasteners, does this cable have sufficient clearance to avoid binding or abrasion, will this section be inspected and serviceed or sealed off(if so does it need a final treatment), should this bit be safety wired, if this needs disassembly and reassembly can these screws/bolts be reused(some are designed such that they deform on assembly)?
@@xureality Which is why, at least in the U.S., you have a FAA inspector come out and evaluate your build quality in steps along the way.
@@mytech6779 which is what makes it all the more fun. Erector sets are for kids, and kids abilities. This is for an adult who liked erector sets as a kid, but wants the knowledge that he or she has gone above and beyond to build something that flies and will get you where you want to go safely.
At least you guys paint more things to find out the problem
can't wait to get my turn to help on this one :P
Great video, perhaps you could be involved with the mossie restoration? That would be cool
Awesome vlog
Congrats on your IFR rating!
Congrats on passing your instrument flight test!
Thanks for watching to the end Tom!
All that deburring must get a little tedious! Top marks for sticking at it. Just a quick question, what's the black painted wing from at the back of the sprayshop? At a glance it looks like something off a WW2 heavy bomber.
Vans claims customers could build their aircrafts in a double car garage. I suppose. A person could sleep sitting upright too. Having a community of support ensures the airplane will fly one day, unlike the majority of kit planes.
Only thing you can't do in a double garage is attach the wings. :)
I would love to do a custom paint job on a plane. I used to paint for Mercedes, BMW and luxury car dealers. Did some custom bikes and cars but never a plane.
Mixing ratios ought to be expressed as whole numbers (as verbalised at the end of the video). So much easier to envisage 2:3
Congrats on the IFR!
Thanks for watching to the end Mark!
A simple thing Vans can do on a quick build, is provide a sheet of paper that says,
"in this quick build, reference instructions 6-1 through 12-10 (or whatever the case is for that section of the aircraft), are completed. Upon receipt, you can start building at Instruction step 13-1. It does not need to be published, but they should at least tell the customer where this quick build is complete to, so that they can assume building at the next step..
Sometimes the most obvious answer is the easiest. Vans should just tell the customer where to start after getting this part.
I think they are getting to a process like you suggest - it has just taken time for the documentation to catch up with the quick build kits.
@@FlightChops I am sure they will
They need to make a bind and fly version🤣🤣🤣
I'm WAY too late to THIS party, but I kept wondering (as an A&P) where's the Alodine 1201 conversion coating? I thought those pieces should have a pale gold hue before the Zinc Chromate primer goes on. Not so with Vans? Or is the primer better these days than when I learned about that stuff 14 years ago, and no longer needs that extra step?