"Limbus is free to play friendly game." The Pay to Win in question:

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  • It's just free for all but one, this is scandalous.

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  • @MysticM0
    @MysticM0 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +164

    400 shards staring at you:

    • @azi-keil9574
      @azi-keil9574  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      It's like 1000 shards minimum with an extra 545 for thread, for someone like me who didn't start on day one, acquiring that many resources is just not viable without a reliable farming team.

    • @emanoelneto3341
      @emanoelneto3341 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      You literally just have to not get a new character for a week and you're fine

    • @MysticM0
      @MysticM0 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@azi-keil9574 ?????? limbus is unbelievably f2p friendly.
      20 ego shard crates a week(unupgraded BP) with 750 lunacy + 12 modules a day and atleast 6 more a day with the 26 lunacy spend to instant refill which is insane value. (not accounting for weekly patch giving you another 300 lunacy)
      For 12 modules you get 36 thread a day while full skipping(1000+ thread a month), with 6 left to still get daily xp lux if you want to skip or save 3 and just do it once manually.
      Railway gives you ten million of every resource and an event that does the same thing once every couple months?
      (none of this counting for a 10 dollar BP purchase) Which I started late in Season 2 and my account is fully decked out with only 200 hours or so, I have never made a "Farming Team" and limbus never needs one.
      If you dont think this game is f2p friendly then youve either never played a gacha before or you literally just downloaded the game last week, if you're the latter, then you have a shit ton of free lunacy to claim just from PLAYING THE STORY LOL.

    • @lolwutman
      @lolwutman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      i dont think i have exchanged egoshards for thread (excl. season resets which forcibly do so) since week 2
      just... dont uptie every single thing to 4 and you dont really run out of thread

    • @eryx0329
      @eryx0329 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@lolwutman very true, a lot of Uptie IV's arent even necessary to use the ID, they help but the only actual important ones are a few

  • @reigning1
    @reigning1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm sorry, but P2W? In MY PMoon gacha? Am I reading things wrong?

  • @Riley_MDS
    @Riley_MDS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The problem comes when the player don't know how this game works, so they're on the mindset that they require as much 3* ID as possible to brute force themselves. But they forgot that lvling up is also crucial to make sure their ID doesn't go down on a drain, thinking that they still need more 3* to fill the gap which they didn't realize that it's not that big...
    I figure that these types of players are the ones that mostly can't bother playing MD hard mode because "I don't want to read this or that", bro, please, I'm F2P here and i have to learn how to really play this game, but i can manage very easily because I finished Library of Ruina, so i have the leftover knowledge on how games like these works

  • @strangeman1482
    @strangeman1482 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The 400 shards in response:

  • @yharon9269
    @yharon9269 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    sharding the E.G.O.:
    grabbing an ishmael from a friend from using the support system:
    using a different ego because blindmael isnt even the best ego in the game, and you’re literally using it in the area it was designed to hardcounter as this is ishmael’s canto (in the postnerf version, btw! it used to be harder.)

  • @016นันทภพศรัณยพัชร์
    @016นันทภพศรัณยพัชร์ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For f2p all u need is wait for Thursday day no need to pay

  • @shroom8189
    @shroom8189 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    P2W thing to do: Solo run
    Support units from friends: Are we a joke to you
    PS: This man has yet to find out about Peakcliff with Binds EGO only

    • @azi-keil9574
      @azi-keil9574  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm the Samsara Savant and I think binds SUCKS!

  • @eat00002
    @eat00002 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me saving up my shards:

  • @ULTRAIRIOS
    @ULTRAIRIOS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Irios Ratio

  • @DavidX-fg9dv
    @DavidX-fg9dv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I first started out this game as a F2P
    It was a pretty good ride and everything.
    I got my main gang all together with my first 6 favorite IDs and good team comp and everything and life was good.
    Now that wasn't quite the case when it comes to EGOs and such because ofc those would cost a pretty big amount of EGO shards.
    The main takeaway here though is that by the time I caught up to the game's latest, I had a decent team even if there were no EGOs I had in store, and got to the point where I could grind mirror dungeons in a casual way sort of.
    But sometimes you kinda want more. You know as you look around seeing what content creators are showing off and what IDs are new, what EGOs are new, how they perform their solos with a lot of EGO spam and you know like, it's fun to see it! And you can't help but want to also do exactly what everyone else is doing lol
    But you're f2p
    If you want everything, you ought to grind MD like your life depends on it.
    If you want some chance to get some certain ID or EGO. You need to roll for it, or have the will power to not roll for it and instead just save up lunacy/rolls for the next walpurg night.
    Which would still be a hassle mind you unless you have a godly amount of patience.
    Your enkephalin is probably a lot more dried up thank you think without enough lunacy used (At least 2-3 refills with it)
    Now these sound like a few problems that would just about summarize a f2p life, like "Oh yeah, this is no biggie!" But the problem is you'd need to invest a lot of free time and withstand the urge to roll or not roll for whatever unit you want.
    Now unless you grind the game 24/7 as a f2p, you better hope by then you still have whatever amount of boxes or Enkelaphin to just keep on going lol
    Limbus company from a F2P perspective will only enable you to enjoy the story with satisfying gameplaay and that's about it
    But if you truly want to test this game's limits and have fun with it, you're def not getting that chance while being a f2p
    I keep seeing everyone in this comment section say "Oh juSt ShArD hahah BWOXESS!! hahA" okay that's cool, I boxed an EGO as a f2p
    Now I just need the thread and even MORE shards for it if I want it's full potential and explore these "solos" lol
    So that just means more grinding lol
    And each level is only one box lol
    Like
    The problems are few for the f2p life
    But how big those problems can be is something people ought to not underestimate lol
    Either way, this truly just isn't a topic I feel like needs to have a lot of heat thrown into lol
    At the end of the day, if you truly have the money and you have the decent amount of free time, and you want to test the game's limit and will grind it for your life
    Yeah
    Go on there and spend your 10 bucks and a lot of things will become easier for you to get lol
    Just know, without this season pass, a few months would probably have gone by and you'd only have 20 rolls for walpurg saved up because you needed to roll or grind for whatever EGO or ID to furthermore uptie and potentially be a shut-in yourself lol
    But who am I to judge lmfao
    Good video btw Azi

    • @thaumoking9947
      @thaumoking9947 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      As someone who has not spent a single cent in this game... This has not been my experience at all
      And sure, I will say it first and foremost because it is important, I have been playing since release, so I have taken advantage of every battlepass for resources and EGOs.
      But I still have to grind for previous Battle Pass EGOs and am missing a couple of things, and I truly dont feel like I need to be constantly grinding. I only do my dailies and my 3 weekly dungeons and get most of the stuff I want. And that is enough, atleast for me.
      Do I miss out on stuff like funny Wingbeat EGO or Philip Sinclair? Maybe
      But I know I will eventually get my hands on it. There is no rush, in my eyes.
      Also, you really dont need Uptie 4 for most things, so it ends up just being the 400 shards and the thread investment, which isnt that bad all things considered.
      That doesnt mean Limbus doesnt have issues. For example, while shards and thread arent things I have issues with, xp is a different story. It is a bit slow to get new IDs up to speed with the rest of the team. But that is really the only thing I am finding a bit annoying. And I dont mind.
      Why? Because I trust PM. They have shown over and over again that they care about improving the game, listening to feedback and adding mechanics to make the gacha less annoying. There's a reason Limbus is the first gacha game I played in years, and it is because I know they put a lot of love into everything they do.
      On a sidenote, doing solo runs is pain, f2p or not. Very few identities can solo stuff consistantly and, since it was the one that they used, Captain Ishmael isnt one of them.

    • @Goodbyeworld222
      @Goodbyeworld222 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      you also forget to include rewards from events, compensation and railway

    • @DavidX-fg9dv
      @DavidX-fg9dv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thaumoking9947what’s your level

    • @thaumoking9947
      @thaumoking9947 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DavidX-fg9dv 82. Again, been playing since the start, though I dont tend to grind more than whats needed for the daily/weekly stuff and event stuff ofc

    • @thaumoking9947
      @thaumoking9947 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DavidX-fg9dv I thought I had already answered this. Weird.
      In any case, lvl 82. Again, I have been playing since launch, but I also dont go out of my way to grind more than necessary for dailies/mirror dungeon and events except for very particular cases which usually involve XP luxcavations

  • @Fizz_201
    @Fizz_201 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is p2w, it's just not as severe as in other gacha games

  • @bigdot2355
    @bigdot2355 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Don't forget PM nerfs these chapters a few days after release because people who don't read cry about not being able to progress faster

  • @eryx0329
    @eryx0329 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Limbus aint a pay to win at all lmaoo.
    One can beat all the content the game has to offer with just the Base ego and the Base IDs, many people have done said runs and examples of said feats. Even one of the content creators attempted facing against the hardest possible challenge within the game being Refraction Railway with the worst possible teams available. Meaning that even with worse IDs than the Base IDs you can beat the content inside the game.
    People have done Mirror dungeon's hard modes solos with base ids, and so on and so forth. Yes there might be some egos here and there that do give a big advantage in comparison to others, but they can be achieved fairly easily with just some weeks of investment into it (200 boxes is enough to buy any ego or ID, so doing 2 weeklies would be enough to get one ID of your choosing, being able to farm additionally if so needed more).
    Been playing Limbus since launch and i have only bought the battlepass, and i have been able to achieve getting all the game's content, everything, every ego, every ID, and have them all in a decent lvl and uptie IV to most of them in multiple teams.
    Now, this game does relay heavily on the battlepass yes, but imo its so much more tame and worth it. But this is a thing i recommend if you only plan to seriously get into limbus and want to attempt to get as much IDs and EGOs as you can. And battlepass aside, just from playing through the days, with apology lunacy here and there, doing my weeklies and hard mirror dungeons, and over all patience and dedication i have been able to accumulate multiple times up to 30000 lunacy, not once but twice in both Walpurgeist nights, with like 150 tickets to spare and more. Now i actually did test this, in the walpurgist of Magic Bullet Outis i spended all my tickets and lunacy on the banner, setting up to end in 0 tickets and 0 lunacy, and tried to accumulate everything i could for the next walpurgeist, i managed to get 25000 lunacy and 140 extraction tickets, meaning that in simply 4 months of playing i got 332 pulls just for playing the game alone.
    But over all for a gacha? this is the most f2p gacha game out there, with base IDs and Egos strong enough on their own to let you beat all the base game content, with an available system to get lunacy and shards with enough frequency to pretty much get anything you want if you do invest your time to it. And with kind devs that will give you pretty often quite the ammount of lunacy and pulls.

    • @0sikin094
      @0sikin094 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ahem, A TRUE F2P player whom didn't spend a cent speaking here
      I have every ID
      Every EGO
      And all of them Uptied to 3 and some even more
      I never rolled a Gatcha a single time after season 2
      And never I will roll it. Because farming for 5+ hours a day is much better to get guaranteed things. (How so? Just refill with lunacy Enkephalin, and spam Dungeons. I spend 3 ten pulls worth of lunacy for a GUARANTEED and OF MY CHOOSING(not duplicate) ID or EGO each and every single time, no luck involved)
      And if that's not a definition of a F2P game that lets you get all the content if you try hard enough
      Then what is?
      All that battle-pass gives, is just an ability to farm less(three times less than I do), and early access to BP paid EGOs
      The only thing locked behind a paywall, is cosmetics))(what I'll admit, you can't get in any way as F2P)
      Limbus is THE F2P game
      That's just it, there is no ifs of but’s about it)

  • @codelimbus
    @codelimbus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    >solo run
    Yeah, the thing most f2p won't do.
    And if they want to, they can just shard the ID and E.G.O
    🗿

    • @engineergaming5128
      @engineergaming5128 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      i did a couple of solo runs before md3, although it was kinda cheesed because I had zwei gregor back then, also f2p

    • @azi-keil9574
      @azi-keil9574  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      YUH.🗿

  • @lamp3804
    @lamp3804 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +95

    saying this like you can't just shard it after the season ends

    • @pampkin7778
      @pampkin7778 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      6 month after ego release. Sadge

    • @WakkaMadeInYevon
      @WakkaMadeInYevon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Even if you couldn't just Shard it, the BP literally only costs 2.5 dollars a month on average. That's basically nothing for what you get from it, it's not even an argument.
      Calling it "pay to win" is just clown behavior, doubly so in a single player game. All that says is either "I'm ungodly poor and probably shouldn't be playing gacha at all," or "I like to complain about nothing."

    • @victorpedrosoceolin3919
      @victorpedrosoceolin3919 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@WakkaMadeInYevoni agree it's a idiotic statement, but don't assume everyone can afford that, It may be cheap for you, but not everyone, what may be 2,5 dollars could be a lot more in other places

    • @shrimplebogus
      @shrimplebogus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@WakkaMadeInYevoncries in mexican curreny

    • @donnyquixotty
      @donnyquixotty 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@WakkaMadeInYevoncries in turkish economy

  • @Emmanuel5280th
    @Emmanuel5280th 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Its WAW what did you expect?

  • @ericraululyeetusdelyeetus5028
    @ericraululyeetusdelyeetus5028 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Shard it.
    Also, isn't she the ONE Id that's actively worse alone?

  • @Arkii3
    @Arkii3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    p2w is only when you cant progress/beat the game without paying money but the game is beatable without Ishmael's WAW whale ego
    And you can also just buy the said ego using shards...

  • @bigdot2355
    @bigdot2355 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    blud just wasted ego resources on the easiest boss first floor

  • @DemonKing19951
    @DemonKing19951 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    "Ah yes let me bring one ID in against a boss meant to beaten by a well crafted team of 6 people all with different abilities that could massively reduce the challenge and call the game P2W because season id/EGO can do by abusing broken game features!" Like I get it, this stuff is strong there's no denying that, but there's no pretending this is the intended experience or that you couldn't mimic this just spamming gregor's WEW which could be boxed/pulled for without paying a cent.
    More seriously free to play is friendly despite what's in this video. Personally? Yeah not having the pass sucks but you get bout 2 10 pulls between each banner and if you're fully free to play you won't spend them on just any old unit. Nor will you box for just any old unit either, you'll roll on banners that interest you and box for IDs that are prefect for your plans. This is not even considering pass stuff, which even on its free side is generally exceptionally powerful. Even season 1 had rimshark don which to this day is kind great for just deleting normal person boss sanity and clashes well. In season 2 of course we had sunshower outis which again clashes well and turns any outis into a crit machine. Then in season 3 we had obsession rodion which again now regenerates poise count on pride crits and builds charge. Then we get outis again in season 4 this time with a straight up WEW that I actively prefer over Heathcliff's paid season ego.
    Literally all of these are very exceptional ego that don't require a cent into the game to get, only having played the appropriate season.

    • @azi-keil9574
      @azi-keil9574  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you, I try my best 😊

    • @thaumoking9947
      @thaumoking9947 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I find it weird that you called Fluid Sac Rimshark and Blind Obssesion Ryoshu Obssesion Rodyon.
      Probably just silly typos tho, your point still stands and is very much valid.

    • @DemonKing19951
      @DemonKing19951 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@thaumoking9947 the first one because that's what I call it my head, the second one because I'm horrible with names. Well no, both of them are becomes I'm terrible with names, really.

  • @theguardian2284
    @theguardian2284 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    but you can shard it in like a month or 2 lol

    • @pampkin7778
      @pampkin7778 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      isn't it 6? after season and the next one ends?

    • @theguardian2284
      @theguardian2284 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@pampkin7778 i think that every season lasts 4 months and we are almost at 2 months

    • @callofhaloinfinite6336
      @callofhaloinfinite6336 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@theguardian2284 That's assuming it won't get extended. But otherwise you're right.

    • @wushucat4601
      @wushucat4601 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      shard what? you could already shard blind obsession now

    • @wushucat4601
      @wushucat4601 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      and if you mean captain ishmael that is next season yeah

  • @popopop984
    @popopop984 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Limbus is like the least pay to win. Even if you do get an op ID, a weaker ID can do the same job in a team

    • @vonlycaonreal
      @vonlycaonreal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm pretty sure base ids alone can do it too

    • @potatocatstar
      @potatocatstar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@vonlycaonrealbase yisang solo gasharpoon

  • @DistressedCrab
    @DistressedCrab 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    …just shard it lmao

  • @zigmus00A
    @zigmus00A 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    nice opinion. one small issue
    *sparks Ring Yi Sang*

  • @demetrionthered925
    @demetrionthered925 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice bait

  • @monokun_6072
    @monokun_6072 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the game is very generous and you can grind, but no one has time to mirror dungeon farm, the pass is incredible vaule besides the (most are bad ngl) egos, and its pretty cheap compared to the rewards, also it gives announcer that cost 1300 paid lunacy( an pass basically)

    • @monokun_6072
      @monokun_6072 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      but i get your point, it is hard to advance at the start,specially when you dont have good ids or level, and farming can be a heavy task

  • @NMC213
    @NMC213 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Look, I'mma be honest... The game resources snowball over time as you play
    The only real difference between true F2P, neutrals (pass only, which let's agree, being about $3 a month is cheap enough) and whales (mountains of lunacy is their calling) is the canto they will finish to teambuild something to suit their needs... A F2P would be around Canto 3, a neutral about Canto 4 and a Whale.... Unless thah are also hardcore grinders, or overexpend in EXP tickets... They will never really finish their task.
    Because contrary to what one may think, the more you pay, the more you have to work...
    Yes you get all the IDs and EGO to uptie 4 fairly quick... But then what? You have about 60 IDs in need of EXP
    You want to test the limits of the game? Then have fun either paying way more than necessary for experience, or going to the EXP mines for weeks without resting...
    A true F2P has it a little hard, not gonna sugarcoat it, the resources are slow to acquire, but ultimately the only thing they need is one trully solid team and that comes naturally over time
    I consider a neutral the path that offers the most...
    You essentially triple you pass boxes so Upting is not as hard, you expend almost nothing (per month), and you'll get enough resources to get 2 to 3 competent teams without having to forfeit your soul to the EXP mines

  • @Hasieur
    @Hasieur 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    23 boxes per weekly md4r + 300 lunacy for weekly bug fixes + events that happen in each season + egos will be sharded after season end if u dont have the pass:

  • @CuongMai-fi1fs
    @CuongMai-fi1fs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    skill isusse

  • @fsuightments5853
    @fsuightments5853 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this comment section truly is a sight to see

  • @remetiontim4023
    @remetiontim4023 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Support ismael or 400 shard?

  • @blacknoob5831
    @blacknoob5831 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    F2P Friendly aren't P2Wless...