I have 12 Cdl12p speakers. Make sure you are tuning your crossover between 18khz and 100hz and adjust the gain on each box to +2. You’ll be surprised how loud these things get. This gets the speakers really loud without the clipping effect.
That's a good idea and I tried that on another gig and was able to get a little more volume. I also tried them set to +4 and the mains out mixer at -5, but they still shut down off and on. I probably have some eq making something push too hard. I’m thinking about setting a limiter on the mains to see if that helps. I do like how they sound, and the price was great
Yea the crossover needs to be set to the speaker parameters. Most crossovers go up to 20khz. The boxes only can handle 18khz hence the limit. Set your crossover and it should help get these way louder and crisper for you
Nice rig, and clever fix on the D6 clip! I have a sneaking suspicion that the "clipping" you're referring to in the CDLs is actually a full power cycle of the box (or protect mode) being caused by low voltage. I'm willing to bet that the outlets you have the PA plugged into are either very far from the breaker panel, or they have long extension cords plugged into them to get power to the stage (or a combination of the two). Long power runs will meter just fine without a load, but once a load (in this case, speaker at high volume) is applied, the voltage will sag and cause the speaker to shut down/mute its output. You can confirm this by metering the voltage while a speaker is on and at high volume. You could also use a circuit analyzer that will measure the impedance of the conductors to predict the voltage drop at various load levels - I have an Ideal 61-164 analyzer, but Klein recently released one that appears to be more affordable (RT390). If that turns out to be the issue, lower gauge extension cords (10AWG) will help you avoid the voltage drop, or sourcing different power from the venue may be a solution as well. I have a 50a distribution box I bring to some shows, and I've had some venues install a 50a/250v receptacle. Even if I don't need a full 100a at 120v, my cabling for the distro is 6AWG, which is able to tolerate the 20-40a required by my full system over a greater distance without worrying about the same sort of ill effects voltage drop would bring with even a 10AWG cord of the same distance.
Wow, I hadn't even considered it could be a power issue. Thanks so much for the detailed response, I really appreciate it. I'll definitely look into that!
I was actually panicked for a bit,. You'd think I'd have tape of some sort but I didn't. I got lucky. :) Someday I'll have a gig where it all goes as planned!
It was for what the venue wanted. I think the CDL’s clarity makes the bass seem softer in the video than it was in real life. With the band so close to the tables, I didn’t want to blast them with a wall of sound. The venue owners praised the sound several times because people could eat, talk, and enjoy the show. Next time, though, I’d probably add the extra subs. Just the like extra CDL, they would fill the sound a just a bit more without adding a ton of volume.
I have 12 Cdl12p speakers. Make sure you are tuning your crossover between 18khz and 100hz and adjust the gain on each box to +2. You’ll be surprised how loud these things get. This gets the speakers really loud without the clipping effect.
That's a good idea and I tried that on another gig and was able to get a little more volume. I also tried them set to +4 and the mains out mixer at -5, but they still shut down off and on. I probably have some eq making something push too hard. I’m thinking about setting a limiter on the mains to see if that helps. I do like how they sound, and the price was great
Yea the crossover needs to be set to the speaker parameters. Most crossovers go up to 20khz. The boxes only can handle 18khz hence the limit. Set your crossover and it should help get these way louder and crisper for you
I used to think it was limiting due to only the low end but it also clips on higher end frequencies too
Nice rig, and clever fix on the D6 clip!
I have a sneaking suspicion that the "clipping" you're referring to in the CDLs is actually a full power cycle of the box (or protect mode) being caused by low voltage. I'm willing to bet that the outlets you have the PA plugged into are either very far from the breaker panel, or they have long extension cords plugged into them to get power to the stage (or a combination of the two). Long power runs will meter just fine without a load, but once a load (in this case, speaker at high volume) is applied, the voltage will sag and cause the speaker to shut down/mute its output.
You can confirm this by metering the voltage while a speaker is on and at high volume. You could also use a circuit analyzer that will measure the impedance of the conductors to predict the voltage drop at various load levels - I have an Ideal 61-164 analyzer, but Klein recently released one that appears to be more affordable (RT390).
If that turns out to be the issue, lower gauge extension cords (10AWG) will help you avoid the voltage drop, or sourcing different power from the venue may be a solution as well. I have a 50a distribution box I bring to some shows, and I've had some venues install a 50a/250v receptacle. Even if I don't need a full 100a at 120v, my cabling for the distro is 6AWG, which is able to tolerate the 20-40a required by my full system over a greater distance without worrying about the same sort of ill effects voltage drop would bring with even a 10AWG cord of the same distance.
Wow, I hadn't even considered it could be a power issue. Thanks so much for the detailed response, I really appreciate it. I'll definitely look into that!
Atleast you didn't have to E-Tape that D6. I like the Velcro idea. haha
I was actually panicked for a bit,. You'd think I'd have tape of some sort but I didn't. I got lucky. :)
Someday I'll have a gig where it all goes as planned!
Nice set up! May i ask what specific lights are u running over the band? Looks good and bright. Thanks!
It's a odd light that I use for front lights, its the Chauvet DJ Wash FX Hex. I like that it has amber in it.
@@DustinRadtke many thanks. yes the amber is perfect for front lighting the stage
Were 2 CDL's and a single sub on each side powerful enough, because in the video they sounded a little underpowered.
It was for what the venue wanted. I think the CDL’s clarity makes the bass seem softer in the video than it was in real life. With the band so close to the tables, I didn’t want to blast them with a wall of sound. The venue owners praised the sound several times because people could eat, talk, and enjoy the show.
Next time, though, I’d probably add the extra subs. Just the like extra CDL, they would fill the sound a just a bit more without adding a ton of volume.
@@DustinRadtke Thanks, do yoyu think this setup would still work for a larger event?
Dude love your content, you need to invest in a bigger trailer. You can see mine in my videos. Were sending out our cdl12p boxes for events soon.
When I'm making Dream Entertainment money I'll upgrade! :)
I'm not sure I could pull larger one with my Highlander, but a 6x10 would be nice.