Bro, they flagged this video for violent or graphic content. WHERE SWAY? Yaow youtube is bugging at times. How is the original full video fully monetized but we get flagged. TH-cam be flagging anything, even sensible questions not said in a hurtful manner but in a context of debate.
and they made it confirm it before being able to watch it there was no way around! , this shit is fucked up u cant make me confirm something that i haven't watch just because u as a platform want to make something up that aint true
Makeup by itself isn't harmful to kids. It's the obsession over appearance and comparing yourself to others. It's toxic to kids' mental state when they aren't mature enough to be realistic about it.
The purpose of makeup is (for the woman) to appear sexually more attractive (to men). To wear makeup for any other purpose than this is to hide your face and/or be a clown.
According to some scientists and historians, lip stick has been used to emulate a woman’s sexual arousal, in which a red or pink color reminds you of the labia Now imagine kids wearing makeup/lipstick
@@lb1181 History itself is good to be known because you need to understand how things are as they are. The meaning doesn't keep on being the same, it evolves with time, otherwise, no one would dare to use the word mulato/mulata, etc.
As a biracial girl with genetic dark circles, for me makeup was a way to not look like a raccoon 🤣 Not wearing makeup would raise questions like “Are you tired?” I would wear a minimal amount, just enough to look fresh but not a cake face. It had nothing to do with trying to sexualize myself as a teen.
Dude sameee. Im chicana n i got my dark circles from my momma. Definitely grew up getting called raccoon too. And always got that are you tired? Comment.
I recognise myself in your story. Even though I used to like really bright make up and color contrasting. It was the same as painting on your face like a butterfly of spider web, and I don’t feel sexy etc when I did that I feel fun.
As a super pale person I literally get asked if I am sick or going to pass out when I don’t wear makeup 🤦♀️. It is easier to just throw on a little mascara, blush, and bronzer to not look like a ghost! At the end of the day whether or not you wear makeup should be up to the person.
Two and a half years ago, when I went on a first date with my now boyfriend, I wore minimum makeup, powder, lipstick, light mascara. On our second date, I wore zero make-up, and I explained to him that I wanted him to see my face without any makeup. We have the most beautiful relationship. When I'm with him, ninety-five percent of the time I'm make-up free. Also, I'm black, and my hair is natural. At times, for a change, I'll blow it out straight, but I mostly wear it natural. I'm black, from the Caribbean, and my boyfriend is Italian American. My mother taught me to love myself, and in turn, I taught my daughter to love herself. Ironically my daughter is a professional make-up artist, and she goes make-up free a lot. She's comfortable with or without makeup. She cares for her skin, which is more important than the make-up. To each his own, I prefer not to condem people for living their life. Everyone walks different paths. We choose what we want, and keep it moving.
I am in agreement with everything you say here and everything you did when dating your boyfriend. I have always been makeup free with my husband (together 30 years) and on the rare occasions I wear a little bit he is completely thrown. lol He likes my regular face. My regular long, undyed, curly hair. My jeans and black tank top wardrobe. I agree with the importance of still caring for your looks in other ways. Taking care of your skin, keeping your hair in good condition, wearing clothes that fit nicely, all of those keep you looking your best whether you decide do makeup or not. SIMULTANEOUSLY, we know tons of done-up women and they are beautiful too. I know stylish dressers...good for them. Being a makeup artist is a cool job...so creative.
Growing up I never saw make-up in our household I'm African so you know the women in my family only used shea butter ,cocoa butter and coconut oil I had no idea women spent hundreds of dollars just to look like a completely different person
Towards the end of high school, I had mild acne and I had to stop trying to cover it up. I would cry every night because I didn’t look the way I did with makeup on. So I decided that I was going to force myself to get used to how I looked without the concealer. Im thankful I did. Makeup is really cool and an incredible art form, but so many of us aren’t willing to admit that it really does damage us to wear it daily and rely on it so heavily to feel confident.
@@polar_bear3233 Yeah makeup does make your acne worse but there are other factors that cause acne such as hormones, stress, genetics, diet, etc. I rarely wear makeup, wash my face daily, eat well and I still have acne (and many other people do too).
@@polar_bear3233 Ehh it's not really the makeup causing it if you take it off before going to bed. Properly, with an oil cleanser or makeup remover. Otherwise, yes, this will make your acne worse because your pores are clogged.
The way I've always felt about hair and makeup is as soon as you put it on, you're stuck managing it to look that way all day. With no make up and natural hair, you don't have to worry about that management, so yeah, I do think that make up makes women more self centered because the entire aspect of having makeup on and your hair done, makes you want to keep looking perfect because it's easy for that perfect look to get out of place, so you're constantly like, "Uh, does my hair look okay? Crap, I smeared my liner, I gotta fix it."There's something more freeing about not having to worry about that management. Going to a wedding, seeing everyone at Christmas, getting professional photos done where you want to look amazing, recitals, etc. I think there's tons of situations where it's worth it to get all dolled up but as far as managing hair and make up every day, it's a no for me.
The "I do it for myself" thing is true and false at the same time. Technically you do it so others see you as more attractive but that makes you feel better and it's also you who puts the beauty standard on yourself, it's a two way street.
Makeup is honestly just fun for me, it's like art. I guess I would be in the creative camp, grew up in theater & dance. During quarantine I do my makeup on days I don't leave the house, because it's fun. On days I have to run errands I don't do anything but slap a mask on my face, I'm not worried about what anyone thinks of my eyebrows.
@starving artist It's fine if you're not completely dependent on it.. it's all about balance. I think it's messed up if you do try to look a certain way because it's some current year trend but you actually think it looks like crap. In the back of your mind you're always gonna be somewhat aware how people perceive you but it's important to not let that have a big influence on you.
That’s true unless you genuinely love the art of makeup like I don’t just put it on when other people are gonna see me it’s self expression my makeup always matches my mood it’s kinda Cathartic.
@starving artist I can't really find any reason that would be harmful to other if you were makeup, so I guess it can't be a problem. The problem arise when look become an obsession that overshadow the rest 🤷♂️
@@FLdancer00 i agree. for me it's another medium to draw and paint on. You can do amazing things with a brush and its pretty fun too. if i did an art piece (or just put on mascara, eyeliner or gloss bc i just learning now) on my face, of course im going to be proud when someone compliments it or is attracted to it. It's not my sole reason, but it's a perk i don't put my life on. Me liking it is more important than a guy i'm interested in liking it, but them liking it is great too. the problem is when other people's opinions of you (or what you think they think of you), encourages you to do things to appease them, but harms you in the long run.
Wearing makeup is soooo different as a kid versus adult... and a huge reason behind not wanting kids to be wearing makeup is because you want your child to enjoy their life not being conscious about those kinds of things for as long as possible before they have to deal with beauty standards for the rest of their life
Girl when I wore make up as a child it looked more like a clown than Kylie Jenner 🤣🤣🤣🤣 but I thinks kids now are very different from what we used to be
I find it so creepy too, not exactly sexualizing them but something in that realm. Of course just playing around fine, but kids with a full face going out and about is so weird. Maybe it’s because beauty and insecurity over it are more of an teen to adult feeling that kids don’t really understand yet. If you tell them they are beautiful they will believe you, if you tell them they arnt...they will believe you.
Insecurities are breed in children very early. Many children aren’t happy with themselves in elementary school. If makeup makes them happier, they should be able to wear makeup.
I have a 14 yr old niece and yes, kids are definitely dressing more scantily and like adults these days. And she started dressing like that when she was around 12. Definitely not just for dance recitals or anything like that. I personally think that adults and parents are maybe trying to let their kids “express themselves”, but the kids wanna look like their heroes and such, which nowadays are scantily dressed people on TikTok and Instagram
Perception affects all; tall men who are well dressed / put together are treated or looked at as strong, while short men who may look a little discombobulated will most likely put out a "creeper" vibe based on how they look. We used to use our eyes to determine threats or mates, so info we get from the "eye test" affects how we think about what we see.
@@ilan8468 hahaha I’m sure there would see an interest in having them. We, followers of these two, would go watch the video in addition of their followers. I only watch Jubilee videos through them actually
@@soso-mx8nb lol I started saying this when I was 24..and calling my coworkers 'young people', even if they were younger by just by one year, started at that same age as well. I think I am just done with my own generation lol
When I first met my old lady she used to wear pounds of makeup and she would not leave the house without putting all that makeup on because she always had self-esteem issues and never felt like she was pretty. plus she was cheated on and treated like crap. but she is very beautiful she is incredibly attractive bye your societal standards and I would always tell her babe you don't need make-up you're absolutely beautiful the Way You Are and it was not lying I was being honest with her and it took a couple years before she felt comfortable going out without being loaded up with makeup and for real makeup is one of those things that sometimes less is more. so she wears a little bit of makeup nowadays but not a ton and I think it really compliments her but it took a long time for her to really understand and believe in her heart and in her mind I was being honest and for her to see and feel beautiful without all that makeup on and I absolutely believe that there is such a thing as too much makeup and that when a woman wears too much makeup she is taking away from her beauty.
To touch on the words "I do it for myself" if the person is ego driven then that statement is 100% correct for thar type of person because you do things to feed your ego and in return anything that feeds their ego makes them happy and that is a form of "self love" and "self validation" regardless of what it looks like to the world. If you are not ego driven receiving too much attention from wearing makeup doesn't make you feel good because it's not whom you truly are and you aren't going to feel comfortable having to keep it up for long periods of time and you end up feeling like "you're not your true self and you are living a lie"
Make up can become toxic when you feel as if you cannot go without it. Mind you, we were born without make up. I wear it because I like to use my face as a canvas(since I don't paint). I go on a daily basis with no make up . Make up is fun to me and adds variety. I don't NEED it.
You sound like me when I used to tell myself I need to quit smoking cigarettes. I can quit anytime I want, I don't use cigarettes as a crutch they just enhance me!
@Zachary Lyons that’s not necessarily what she’s saying. In the past, i definitely used to not being able to go out without makeup because I thought I needed it. But now I go about my day to day without it and I’m comfortable without makeup now. I do on some occasions wear makeup for like a job interview and such but I don’t use it like I used to. And unlike before I don’t feel like I need it, it just a fun thing to do on occasions. Also makeup and being addicted to nicotine are completely different. You have to completely not participate in smoking if you want to stop using. But for makeup, a person can learn to control how they use it to the point where it doesn’t damage their self image.
As a woman myself yes I do see this too often ESPECIALLY with Instagrammers and online Influencers getting their panties twisted when people make a comment about their makeup or appearance which makes them lowkey furious and then they make a tik tok about how they react to them...to get more attention lmao
Feel like I've experienced every side of this argument. I was never allowed to wear makeup so I started when I was 22 and no longer around my parents. It was really rough when I was a teen, struggling with acne and definitely insecure and definitely judged by other girls. When I did start wearing makeup I got a confidence boost, but it was short lived because I hadn't developed true confidence underneath. Started wearing too much makeup to compensate, and the. I realized what I was doing, cut back, and focused on developing true acceptance for my natural looks. That's when I started to feel - and therefore look more confident and beautiful. Now I am not dependent on makeup, but I do enjoy and women are still judged by looks, so there are certain situations where I know I have to wear makeup if I want to be fairly considered along with others. Jus how it is.
i feel aba has a hard time being wrong. he also likes to have the first and last word a lot. he also tends to have a hard time actually letting preach speak and actually listening to what preach says.
My gf right now won’t even let me look at her face when doesn’t wear make up. I’m not trying to brag or nothing but objectively she is very beautiful. It’s crazy how insecure she is while being so naturally attractive, really I think the cosmetics industry and society has done a number on her and girls like her Edit) I have of course seen her without make up before. It is not as serious as maybe my original post implied. We have spent plenty of time hanging out when she is not wearing make up, but she gets uncomfortable if I look directly at her face. I just wanted to clarify
It's actually crazy, I can understand the make-up for the natural look. But still, people should be able to embrace their natural face. That's the real you
Such an awesome discussion and subject matter!!! I thoroughly enjoyed this! I appreciate the real and blatant honesty you all bring to the forefront on controversial topics! Y’all seem cool as hell to hang with too! Kudos guys.
On that kids dressing like adults topic, that's what happens when parents don't do their part anymore and let Tik Tok and the social media do the parenting for them.
People haven't been proper parents since the 70s. There are good ones but its drastically gone downhill. Now we have a generation of entitled, whiney, sad, delusional adults. Society is showing it, how fast its desolving for peoples feelings.
Right but this has been going on for decades. It's just more outlets for it. There used to magazines, then MTV, now it and tik tok and a lot if it from the ppl they see in real life may be the mistresses on the street wear it, their aunts, older sister, shii maybe even their mom
@@reinhartgregory what kind of “adult” did you dress as. If it was a conservatively dressed, respectable adult than that’s fine, but when children dress up like “adult” degenerates because that’s what they’ve been told to idolize. It represents a much larger problem.
When I was 16 I was going to McDonald’s to get my first job and my foster parent literally went in on me yelling at me because I didn’t have makeup on. I was dressed nice and professionally but I didn’t have makeup on and she yelled at me saying I obviously don’t care about supporting myself because I couldn’t care enough to wear makeup to an interview. It’s really upset me.
You're fine honey. I managed to score a job a Tiffany & Co. without a splotch of makeup on. Every round of interviews I went through, even when I had pretty bad teenager skin, not once did it stop me. If you turn up on time, you are polite, you are clean, you are wearing sensible clothes and you can answer questions with confidence and competence, you will have a hell of a good shot. Much better a shot than someone who comes in with wonderful makeup, but no marketable skills. Keep your chin up and ignore your foster parent. She has an outdated view of going into the workplace, or she is projecting her insecurities and jealousy onto the beautiful young person that you are. You can succeed despite her awful attitude, don't let her stupidity drag your accomplishments down. You're a resourceful, resilient person if you're only 16 and planning ahead for your future. That's already a solid sign that you will excel. Good luck! xxx
A&P im deaf so i rely on lip-reading vastly more than hearing, so when i see you listen to someone and i see you guys mouth a comment quiet in the background sometimes i get it, which is funny for me, but sometimes i dont, and cuz i rely on lip-reading mostly, i feel more drawn to know what you said sometime to point out, love your content either way
I'm 16 and I always get uncomfortable when I see a girl younger than me wearing something a girl older than me would wear. It just shows how much influence these young adult women on social media have on the younger generation.
I hate that narrative that makeup is just an enhancement. The people that tend to use that argument typically are unable to even leave the house with a bare face. Makeup is okay if you’re taking care of your skin underneath.. and if you’re comfortable being seen without it. But I even have friends who don’t even want to FaceTime without having their makeup done ... it’s sad.
Agree. Some people said to me that makeup make them feel more confident but truth is that they loose confidence in themselves. Neenagers should be discouriged from doing makeup every day and tought how to care for their skin instead. Learn how to accept and love themseles.
If you NEED makeup to be seen in front of even your loved ones, then you have deep insecurities and an obsession. It's possible to wear makeup for subtle enhancement and/or special occasions, but caking your face till it's orange? Nah. Fellas be careful, some women could even hide a third eye under the makeup. See the face before you cough up the ring!
Nonsense. There are people born with skin conditions, port wine stains, have burn marks, etc... and wear make up to cover the thing they feel self conscious about. Its great to say own your imperfections but considering most humans are assholes who stare and make comments, many women just prefer to wear make up.
@@concamon1364 I don’t agree with that fr tho lol , that’s probably the case for you . But I know women who just wanna look their best all the time . I can’t face time without having my hair brushed lol it’s just about you always wanna look a certain standard you set for yourself . Since when does wanting to look your best reflect a negative light
Love your perspective. As I get older, I want to wear more makeup. It's to cover up insecurities. Wrinkles, spots, etc. But I'd like to be comfortable without it. I tend to hold back a little bit because I don't want to look as though I am wearing too much either. I try to keep my makeup bag as small as possible. I find that the more you wear makeup, the more you need it.
A teenager checked me out at the grocery store a few weeks ago and she had on makeup like she was going to the prom after her shift. It threw me off, I just couldn’t understand why so much just to check groceries 🤷🏾♀️. She looked so much older with all of it on too
I grew up bullied because I was the awkward ugly duckling kid and the thing was I always wanted to wear makeup and shit but I was always steered away from it.. I'm glad I was though in hindsight.. early formative year and I think while any kid is still developing they should be taught to be comfortable and confident in their own skin as is, I learned that through the good and bad of those times in my younger years and now as a 24 year old woman I feel as comfortable and confident as is with makeup as without and when I do wear makeup it's more to compliment my features not to completely cover and reconstruct my face or appearance to something off the walls different
@@rezaystar2496 the kardashians were stupid because they created a standard that they couldn’t even achieve. why get all of that surgery to look good online and still have to edit your pics? plus they look crazy irl. it’s just sad.
As a mom I am very minimalistic with my makeup. I don’t excessively contour or any of that stuff because I want to make sure I still look like myself when I’m done applying it. I can’t tell my daughter she’s beautiful as she is if I’m completely changing my face with makeup 🤷🏾♀️
Yep. And same with the hair. I saw how it affects my daughter when they see me slay wigs. It is innocent but ideas about beauty are being formed. Love the mane btw!
You could look like yourself, but at the end of the day there's still enhancements and changes being done that realistically and technically aren't you because they don't exist on you. Something as simple as just darkening your eyebrows... You now present yourself to the world with darker eyebrows than you really have.
Exactly it can really dmg little girls, everybody should raise their chest and be proud of who they really no matter how they look. All ppl have some good quality`s that will be appreciated by good ppl, ppl need to stop caring so much about how the world view them, Having some good ppl around you should be enough. Its not realistic that everybody should like you, only a very small percentage can ever achieve that
@@TheAfroGoddess thank you ma’am! And I completely agree about the hair thing. I try my best to keep mine it it’s natural state, not because I have anything against wigs or anything like that, but so that she’s comfortable with her hair too. These European beauty images are very pervasive, it can be tough!
@@navataru there’s nothing wrong with enhancing your beauty, not sure where you got that from my comment. Darker eyebrows doesn’t completely alter your face like contouring can. I said I try to keep it simple, no further inference required 🤷🏾♀️
Aba, that shirt in the beginning is fly 💸 Edit now that I've watched the whole video: I'm a woman who really is on both sides of this and it was interesting hearing both perspectives. The perspective I feel like seemed to be missing on the "pro-makeup" side is the one that I (and many others) share, which is that doing my makeup is fun...like it's a way to spend time with myself and be creative on my face. And I have no issues with my natural bare face, I take good care of my skin and I'm perfectly comfortable to go out or even to work with or without makeup (and I, too, adopted a personal policy of no-makeup first dates because I just wanted to feel natural and comfortable). And sometimes I will do a full face at home alone with nowhere to go because I'm bored and I like playing in it (and I don't even take pictures for social media 😱). I just wish that even one of the people on the pro-makeup side would have said they do it because it's fun.
I don't mind getting notifications to watch older videos but yt is definitely messing with you guys. 2nd video this happened with. So I'm going to comment anyway... I feel as though social media has a hold on a lot of people where they feel that they have to have this unrealistic appearance of themselves to be beautiful. All the makeup and all the filters are causing gorgeous people to doubt themselves because they're not 100% flawless. Flaws are wonderful because they tell a story about who you are. My stretch marks may not be attractive but they tell a story of who I am and that I am a mother. I may have bags under my eyes because I was up all night with a sick child. My hair may be turning gray but that's just because I'm aging into an even more beautiful version of myself without filters needed. Be proud of you. Easier said than done but it's possible.
Growing up I wasn't allowed makeup until I was 13. I watched all my friends get makeup before me and it completely turned me off of ever wearing makeup. I watched my friends go from kids who cared about playing outside or the newest idol group to not being able to go anywhere until their makeup was done because they were "Soooo ugly" without it. They didn't think themselves ugly before it...
Where the hell are all you girls when I need y'all??? As a guy, I've always been annoyed looking at girls with their faces completely masked with make up. I'm my school, almost every single girl had shit ton of make up on their faces and it always disgusted me...
The whole video “I do this for myself. It boosts my self confidence.” But then go on to explain that “I wear it to keep up the image I’ve made for myself. I do it to impress others, I do it to make others jealous. I wear it because myself confidence is nothing without it”
people don't work the same way i make up myself and people call me a clown for use unnatural colors and i wear light make up on my work bc i dont want to look like a clown at the office but sometimes forgot wear make up too and make up its not only for women usually i had to wear something to change my features to look more masculine and not being misgendered or being threatened like a simple tomboy (sorry for my bad english )
This was hard to watch. They basically all seem to acknowledge that unnatural beauty standards can be harmful for people, and they didn't waste any time pointing out harmful beauty standards in media. Then they flaunt the fact that no one on the internet has ever seen their actual face, and how great it is to be able to smooth out blemishes with a filter, or how depressing it is to go out and not have the "star power" and glam that makeup provides. Really disturbing imo, they're obsessed with image, recognize that is a result of false imagery they've been exposed to... And they go out and perpetuate that exact standard among their own friends, community or online group. It makes my head hurt that these people blame Hollywood's standards of beauty and yet they themselves are likely contributing to the issue even more, because they ARE the average person that another nobody is going to compare themselves against, and they're not able to be honest about their appearance.
You hit the nail on the head. It’s becoming shameful to admit u don’t like urself- their actions show this but U aren’t allowed to call them out because they hide being the self-love facade. This is more toxic and makes you dislike urself even more because u are in denial. I love makeup but I can be without it, I know of women who claim to clove themselves and they only do makeup for themselves these same women would never DARE take photos or be out in public (even at the gym lol) without makeup. It’s becoming sad but hey! They “love themselves”
From the start, makeup has been a tool of seduction used by women. Seduction implies sexuality. So deep down, not wanting to have children using makeup is not wanting children to come closer to sexuality. To me, It sounds logical and has pretty good parenting behavior.
LISTEN, the first couple of minutes of this is everything I'm constantly questioning and confused by within certain communities and their mindsets and the things they say. It feels like a constant contradiction which feels bizarre to me. Like they're not even taking it seriously 😳 idk 🤷🏿♀️ like contradicting yourself should come with growth and development and change because as we age we should be developing new mindsets or certain things we felt before. But certain people are literally just a walking contradiction, no growth or nothing yet lol they say one thing and then say or perform life in the exact opposite way of what they said in terms of gender and sex roles
Hey Aba, here's my take on the first minute about makeup and womanhood: To me, it sounds like Makeup allowed Her (specifically- probably pre-trans) to physically/visually present as the woman she always felt she was on the inside as he was still a man. I don't think she meant it any deeper than that. However, as far as makeup being inherently feminine... there's a strong correlation suggestion this stereotype is true. Though makeup has unisex applications in media industries (tv, movies, music, news anchors, etc), in everyday life, makeup is usually utilised to enhance feminine features (eg. men transforming themselves into drag 'Queens'). Hetero-normative men do NOT wear makeup in regular, everyday settings while doing their blue or white collar jobs, during sports, buying groceries, going to the movies or amusement park. So Makeup is attached to women, transwomen, gay and effeminate men (previously rudely called 'girly' men). So... *shrug* -- just my 2c
I LOVE the fact that Aba spoke on the contradiction between fighting against stereotypical gender roles while also associating those things in many people’s transitions
I'm not particularly fond of it, specially because I myself am not a super feminine woman, however, I understand that it might also be a practical need. A lot of transwoman don't pass completly as women, you can tell that somethins "off". So maybe a lot of them lean onto a more stereotipical feminine image to be able to blend in better.
@@beatrizfernandes1506 Exactly! While biological women don't need makeup, for transwomen pre-transition makeup and clothes are literally the only option to express how they feel on the inside. It's their only option to be adressed as a she/hers.
As someone who aspires more women anticipation, this shows how they have most of the time a minority complex instead of gender dysmorphia. Like being a woman is more then make up and dolls. They’re going straight back to the 50’s gender models
While makeup can positively increase your looks, I think it’s harmful that you look like a COMPLETELY different person when you take it off. Those same people screech body positivity
It depends who you do it for. For me makeup has always been self expression I’ve loved it since I was like 5 I wasn’t allowed to wear it until I was 14 bc my parents didn’t understand it wasn’t to please others it was art. I feel like if you can’t enjoy putting on makeup when nobody is gonna see you then you are wearing it for the wrong reasons
@@Luvvserena111 it's always for other people, just like a guy with a big pick up truck or loud moterscycle isnt doing it for anyone but everyone else lol
Yesss!!! I don't understand the logic... If all the compliments you get are when you look like a completely different person, how can that boost your confidence when you KNOW that's not what you look like irl...
We also need to have a conversation about the difference between victim blaming and taking responsibility for ones own safety and security to avoid being victimized.
Yeah I have spoken to women about them feeling like they shouldn't have to worry about getting assaulted or whatever walking home alone at night. And they're absolutely right. They shouldn't have to. But they do. Just like men. So as unfair as it is they do need to keep themselves safe. I always keep an eye on people and try not to be alone when possible and I am a 6ft man who goes to the gym.
When I was in jail. No make up, no filters, none of that.... after about 2 months I would look in the mirror and think I was beautiful. But prior to that, I didn’t feel that way without make up or a filter.. because I was constantly seeing a better version of me. But once I took that all away, I was comfortable for the first time in my own skin, like really comfortable: and I remember thinking how crazy it was.
Laura alot of girl , also my ex girl looking better without make up. Like the natural look way more. When we even go further and talk about with them lip implants etc. .. thats nasty
Now that I have a daughter I want to raise her to feel beautiful without makeup and naturally secure without all the extra stuff we feel we need. I speak from experience because I feel I am not as confident without makeup and after doing so much damage to my skin with products I made my skin worse. All because I was trying to achieve “perfect” skin. Those are my own insecurities by seeing all the glam and “perfection.” Which I had such great skin before 😢 Every parent will raise their child how they feel is right based on how they may have been raised, experience, and a lot of other reasons… also don’t get me started on the clothing 😒
It’s the putting filters over makeup looks for me. Not only are you not even showing the true look, you’re misleading people about the quality of the makeup. I don’t understand layering on makeup, getting all types of work done, using filters, and editing the pictures TOO 😭 just goes to show if you don’t truly love yourself nothing will ever be good enough.
Like walking on the beach in a speedo with a cucumber 🥒 stuffed in it.wouldnt you be angry buying a bag of cheese puffs but they have Cheese ITs inside.False advertising like Steroid use without that Hulk wouldn't be mad no more which they regret especially when they're older.Just my point of view I've never been a 🦚
saaaame, 24 and I literally never even owned a base or foundation or whatever they call all these. I just have eyeshadows to play with different colours when i'm feeling artistic lol
Filters are scary. I use to be very confident until I started using Snapchat, and I saw a... prettier version of Me, and even tho I know that version of me isn’t possible with or without plastic surgery, I know that nobody has skin like that, with zero texture and pores but...it still hurt my self esteem a lot. I would get ready, naturally check the mirror and be like damnnn girl you cute!!! But as soon as I saw myself with a filter, then take the filter off... I would immediately feel insecure, even tho I was confident 10 mins prior. It was so bad, I had to delete Snapchat for a while Bevause it was really messing with my head, as a grown woman!!! I can’t imagine how bad it is for children and teens.
Absolutely, this was one of the reasons I deleted Snapchat back in middle school. At least Instagram didn't smooth people faces down(didn't last long though 🙃
This happened to me too. I am 14 years old and I deleted snapchat a few months ago because I started to hate the way I looked without a filter on. Its like, I would be feeling myself with a filter and then I take it off and suddenly I look super ugly. Now I feel a lot more confident in my natural face!
I used to get so excited to browse the new filters snap came out with. But the better me hurt my self esteem, so now I only take pictures sans filters of parts that I like (e.g., eyes, dimples, eyebrows, etc.).
Yep I know the feeling of girls changing their look so much either it look to scary or weird. I know because I know some girls who does this and I'm like this is like lying to the world really like you lied about your age and your face. And they shouldn't get mad if the guys fund out and gets upset to.
Jordan Peterson discusses the intentions behind makeup (when discussing the me too movement) and he says that the intention of makeup is to mimic the sexual arousal eg how blood travels to particular areas in that circumstance flushing the cheeks etc. So on those grounds I agree that children should not wear makeup. It’s not a good idea to give them the impression they should wear makeup from childhood. Perhaps it could have an impact on self esteem later on, also children should not be sexualised, they should be kids. If a child is “putting on some lipstick” like mummy because they want to be like her then I think that’s harmless, just as they want to help vacuum and other things they see a family member doing. They should not be encouraged to hold the belief that their esteem is related to the way they look. Be healthy and your skin will glow and you won’t need makeup. 👌🏼💕 I had bad acne as a teen and I wish I hadn’t been placed so much importance on my skin.
🤔 *I don’t agree with girls wearing suggestive clothing meant for adults or wearing makeup. There are ways for girls to look pretty without having a bunch of skin showing and makeup on and I think it’s important to establish that foundation of thought first. Secondly, it’s very easy for a 14 year old to look 21 these days considering how their bodies develop, how much makeup girls wear these days and the type of clothing and hair extensions as well. I don’t want help some grown man get inappropriate ideas about my “theoretical” child nor help the child deceive others.*
it's not the persons fault when other people see them in a sexual way, as literally anything can be seen in an inappropiate way. How about we stop putting blame onto the "victims"
I agree. But I also think girls should be able to express themselves. Though that would be hard seeing the number of disgusting people out there. I'm 13 myself and I choose to wear light makeup, not to make myself look like I'm 18, but to showcase to the world who I am...if that's makes sense XD
@@xenia5016 yes but it is a fact that certain types of clothes/makeup are made specifically to make someone more attractive/accentuate their natural gifts. If people wear these kinda clothes/makeup it isnt that weird to see someone in a sexual way.
The saying “I wear makeup for myself” is genuinely true for some people and not true at all for others. There’s times when I don’t wear makeup for a week cause I like my bare face. Then other times I want to wear makeup for the sole purpose of just wanting to wear it because I like it. I’m constantly seen going out with a bare face and going out with makeup. I love both sides of me and it’s as simple as that. A large group of people feel this way too but it seems like society wants to group everyone so badly into the ‘no makeup side’ or ‘always makeup side’
exactly ! i rarely wear makeup but when i do it's strictly for myself. sometimes i put on red lipstick just to go out with a mask that covers it lol, knowing i'm wearing it makes me feel cool haha
THIS. Thank you. I wear makeup for fun when I feel like it. I don’t rely on it to change my appearance. I’m not obsessed with appearances or insecure. Makeup can just be a hobby. It’s not always a mask for insecure people. It depends on the person.
Yes and I'm sure Chad Super big pick up truck and loud moterscyle are just for him huh? Like he isnt a n insecure little baby on the inside lol. Step out of the make up ma'am lol
I personaly see makeup as an accesorie and something relaxing to do. It's like getting a hair cut, doing a different hairstyle, getting a piercing or tattoo, or choosing my clothes. I don't wear makeup because I don't like myself but because I like makeup itself. But there are women who have insecurities or are even mentaly unstable and wear makeup to feel better about themselves (I don't see that as necesarily bad, because makeup can be a little help for self-esteem and maybe in the future you won't feel as bad). Like when you have a red af pimple and you don't feel good looking like that and just prefer to hide it until it goes away. Makeup itself has nothing negative, what can make the situation look bad are the people who wear it for their reasons behind.
I think it's very easy to lie to ourselves about why we wear makeup. In my early twenties I truly believed that I wore makeup because it was an artform and a form of self-expression. Then I was cast in play where the director insisted on no makeup for the show, and no makeup in rehearsals so we could get comfortable with it. Going from full face everyday to suddenly wearing no makeup for weeks, I realized very quickly that the true reason I wore makeup was because I straight up didn't like what I looked like without it. I was just lying to myself about why I wore it. I also found that even though I'm a cis woman, I felt less like a woman without makeup on. I found myself compensating by doing things like painting my nails more, or wearing more stereotypically feminine clothing. Definitely a great learning experience for me!
How do you know that your dependence on make-up didn't come about as a result of you using it for a prolonged period of time? That's to say, maybe when you started with it, you genuinely did it as a form of artistic expression, however, the more you used it and the possible confidence boost it came with, the more it shifted you acclimated to it such that the sudden shift back was jarring. I'm sincerely curious.
I personally started wearing make up as a form of art and later found out it was a way for me to get out of my disorder. It is a way for me to hide it from the people I know, because I don't want them to wonder about what's going on. I don't think everyone has the same disorder but I do think they too hide something with make up.
Thank you for such an honest post. We all do those kind of things unknowingly, makeup doesn't need to be involved. Not everyone is lucky enough to find out what they're using to over compensate tho (or what they're compensating for).
Hey recently former kid here, being in middle and high-school was a struggle. The girls there were all wearing suggestive clothes just tame enough for the dress code 2 not be violated if not just saying fuck it and doing it anyways which did happen.
I have a fun fact about makeup... this is why some people break out too. The company I work for rents out part of their building to a company that collects the oil/grease/fat whatever, from fast food restaurants and then they sell the oil/grease to cosmetic company's to make, makeup and other beauty products. That's why some people breakout like crazy after they use the products...and these are top brand cosmetic company that buy the grease. Thanks for making your videos.
"Are kids wearing suggestive clothing more fit for adults?" Absolutely yes. They were doing it when I was in junior high, and as their peer, I was constantly disgusted by it. I was born in 1989, and it was bad then in the '00s.
Yup! I’m ‘87, and when I was in school the pants were so low girls had to shave their cha cha. Plus those slinky little half tops, the ones with no back and just a tie. Looking back…smh 🤦♀️
92'. I remember in the 00's, shorts and pants with words on the tush. Words like "CUTIE" and "WILD". I remember in early high school being judged by peers for not wearing push up bras. I know my mom struggled when we went clothes shopping because most outfits for sale were too "sexy" in the girls and juniors sections. It's sad that there is so much pressure for girls to become and look like a woman too soon.
I was born in 90 and I remember my Uncle being very angry at this sort of thing when I was 10 and I could not understand what was going on, now I see it
When I stopped wearing makeup I got so much more comfortable and confident in my beauty. Beauty is unique in everyone, all these people started looking the same with a lot of makeup.
the reason i never got into makeup was because of all the jokes i saw about women taking off their makeup for the first time in front of their boyfriends. i never wanted that to be me so i just kept it to a minimum and cleared my skin.
Same! I used to not leave the house without makeup but since about a year, I'm bareface most of the time and only wear makeup for special occasions. My skin is so much clearer lol and I'm definitely more confident now.
I wore makeup maybe 4 times in my life (only 20 though) and I hated it everytime. Feels like a mask and family members said I looked better with it, which was hurtful cause I felt like I wasn't enough without it. I also don't think kids should wear makeup but that's just me.
Haven't worn makeup thru the pandemic, I am comfortable in my looks ,but I do miss it..I never wore a whole lot to begin with ,so I ain't insecure I just enjoy wearing it..these days women wear a whole different face,it's crazy !!!
I've never liked the look of makeup on most people (only when it's done so well I don't even notice it... But then you get close and see a fine layer smeared over everything, yuck). I'm a sucker for a bit of eye shadow though to be fair. My gf doesn't wear makeup either and I swear she has some of the most vibrant healthy skin I've ever seen, it's soft and smooth and has a nice rosy color around the cheeks. Meanwhile to my horror it seems like many of the people wearing makeup regularly have AWFUL skin that's rough and cracked and all pock marked. I assumed that was the reason they wore makeup in the first place, but my gf says it's likely the makeup that damaged their skin!? What the heck are people doing to themselves if that's true? Covering up nice skin with gross products that leave you horribly scarred by age 30..? Is this even true or just something she says to justify no makeup lol? Not that she even needs justification, but it just seems crazy to me that the makeup itself could be so damaging!
id like to say that being a guy that likes taking time on my hair personally it goes both ways. i wanna look good for other people but to me i actually want to look good to myself if that makes sense. people be telling me my hair looks good and i just either dont see it or always want to improve it so i look good cuz it makes me feel good. kinda like dressing up. yes it is for other people to view me in a better light but i also just feel good looking nice. its hard to explain but i hope you get me
If make up boots your confidence, then just do it! Showing up and having confidence, makes you win half of the battle - why would you deny yourself anything that can boost your confidence? If you don't need it for a confidence boost, then all the more power to you, boo!
@@capo4ever334 Feel like there is nothing wrong with wanting to be your child’s friend maybe because that’s something I kinda wish I had with my mom but at the same time if that does happen then the parent can still tell the child right from wrong and let them know when they are doing wrong. Discipline can or SHOULD still be there
Especially in today’s society.. we didn’t have social media when I was a a kid. I was like 16 when MySpace became relevant. Yes, back then we all still had insecurities because we would point out our own flaws and compare ourselves to other girls we knew. But now days... these kids are growing up with the internet and they’re exposed to so much more. They see all these influencers that look perfect and they want to be that way. It seems to be a lot worse for kids these days than it was 20 years ago and I think there are a lot of adults who don’t really realize this. Most things these days are extremely contradictory though lol
I think people think they do stuff for themselves, but actually it's because they want to feel accepted. But most people don't realise this is why they're doing things. You can say the same for many things e.g. you might think you're studying and working hard "for yourself" but actually it's because you want to be more socially accomplished so you can reap the social rewards of that and be admired etc. You might think you're painting for your own artistic pursuits, but likely you hope to share it with others and receive feedback or compliments. Similarly, someone who does makeup in their room and doesn't show anyone may be doing it simply for the artistic self-expression, but if it's to make themselves look more attractive, they're probably doing that because they've subconsciously assimilated messages from society that being attractive leads to greater social success. Even people who seek riches often are doing it for social reasons. We're social animals after all, we just kid ourselves into thinking we are independently minded 😬 Being accepted by society is basically about having a sense of security, the same as having money is. Having social connections can be more powerful than having savings in the bank. There's little difference really between people who do things purely for the money and people who do things purely to gain social status. Money and social status are two sides of the same coin (money is a social construct after all).
Last comment, watch this just reminded me of how almost everyone is or feels pressured into becoming a person they never were. I'm afraid most of the time that happens it's for the worse. It's sad and it has to do with the parents. I'm sure these people just wanted validation. That's where it all stems from.
The more I grow up the more I realize how people still act like children, mentality because sex, love, standers, and confidence have always been distant to people. I am still learning also but there are a lot of things wrong with the world rn.
Yes we are broken people, hijacked from focus in growing your life wisdom. Reflection and healthy self-talk got lost under an immense ammount of distractions. Once it was the leaders of a nation that tried the distract us with bread&play, now we do it ourselves and it creates generation after generation of grown childish people. I also see that if people never thought about a question, they tend to easily take on the first answer they hear just because it sounds logical....
"Don't you wish short guys had make-up to make them feel taller." They're called heels. Back in the old days of colonial America, they used to be strictly high-class men fashion. Oh how the tables have turned.
I hear you Aba. My thought on kids wearing makeup is this: We reserve certain things for adulthood assuming adults are more mentally prepared to handle certain situations responsibly. Alcohol, smoking, makeup, sexuality ought to be reserved for adults because makeup absolutely sparks a reaction from the world. I think all of them are harmful, but adults chose to pick their poisons. We don’t feed poison to children. On the other hand, by not leading by example, we show kids that smoking drinking being sexually alluring and wearing makeup is rewarding. It’s a contradiction. This tug-of-war between what’s good for us and what we do for clout escape and self abuse should not be a burden the kids need to carry. Let them be kids for a while longer. In a perfect world there wouldn’t be these issues but the world is vain and broken. The adults cope accordingly. That’s my take on it.
What exactly is perfection in terms of beauty? I think each person has their own opinion on the type of looks they find attractive. And remember, good looks don't make up for a horrible personality.
Very strong in saying that kids should never be introduced to suggestive clothing or those that have no difference from what provocative adults wear. Lets let kids be kids and keep their innocence and this can well be displayed by clothing them appropriately. When they are 16 and older or when they leave home to be on their own, they can choose however they want to dress and clothe themselves basis the values and principles they would have already curated growing up.
Wearing makeup has become the new natural, which sets an unreachable standard. People have kind of forgotten that having eyebags, uneven skin, not filled in brows, not long lashes without extensions, etc is normal. Most girls these days start using makeup before they are even 14
Makeup becoming "the new natural" is the result of marketing campaings combined with female "empowerment," in which there is no room for men's opinion.
I overheard a coworker telling his wife, “if I had seen you without makeup I never would have married you” He was a piece of shit, she started starving herself, working out, and developing an eating disorder because he would tear her down constantly
Perhaps he feels lied to. Imagine only seeing one image of someone and then finding out that image was just that, an image. I suspect that could mess with someone as well.
@@Sabrina11113 i will never understand to mental gymnastics people (especially my girl friends) do to stay with someone who doesn't even respect them. i couldnt have a healthy relationship with someone who thought i was ugly. i guess insecurity and children, but even my insecure ass knows when to end it. the love would be lost, would have to end it very soon. i've been whipped for a guy, but not so whipped i would ignore clear red flags
So this dude marry a women that never seen her without make up ?,wth he must have seen her without make up or she was good at hiding make up ,I mean I would have been pissed too if I found out that my wife look different without make up and she is been hiding it the all time ,because without make up is pretty much who you are.
On the question about kids and makeup : Im 30 years old so i have been around some time and ever since even i was a kid there were ways to support but at the same time defuse the need of using makeup for kids. What i mean by this is that there are even to this day things called 'kids makeup' which is a less pigmented but a bit glittery version of cream makeup. I think there are stages you can take to let them experience it if they are interested , for example some of them are already getting excited if you paint their nails once even if its a barely visible color. or just buy clip in hairlocks. Generally i feel like kids already have enough to experience and enjoy without makeup and even for myself the idea of makeup or shaving, getting better looking eyebrows first came from seeing my classmates doing such things. The crowd they are in as children is very influential, they look at friends , parents and teachers, combine it with their own few views of things and decide to do some of them. I dont think its healthy or unhealthy to experience makeup i think its just a stage in a life which generally should come at a later age, because one thing brings about the other, and for myself, the age of makeup, getting new outfits and putting punk rock bands on my walls was a very different time from being a very young kid learning the secret about Santa Claus.
My opinion as a mom is I don't want my daughter wearing makeup at a young age because I want her to love herself, appreciate her looks the way they are. I want her to feel pretty the way she is so that when she is older and decides to wear makeup she understands she is beautiful with or without it. I don't want her to think makeup defines her beauty it just enhances it.
Make up sometimes is used to sexualize young kids. Playing with makeup is fine. I played with make up as a kid, but my parents were very conscientious of what makeup I was wearing and I wasn't wearing it outside of the house. Remember, a child's perception is very different from an adults. I wear makeup when I want to look a little extra, but I don't need it and I don't want my daughter to think she needs it.
@Sleepy Celeste It's because they're on the stage. The lights wash out your face, so if you want to be able to see someone's features from the audience, they need to be wearing makeup. It's not about making them look like an adult or sexualizing them. At least that's the original intent. TV/movie makeup is very different from stage makeup. So when they put these kids on TV in stage makeup it looks suuuper creepy. I also agree that in some cases it's lost it's original purpose and really is just used to turn them into baby barbies.... Though after watching this video and reading a bunch of comments I'm starting to think wearing makeup at dance recitals may be part of why I don't feel the need to wear it now. As someone else said, to me makeup is a costume. And that's how I always saw it when I was a kid. At dance recitals or at fairs/parties with face painting, makeup was always presented to me as something you did for fun or for special occasions. Not as something that you need when you're just being "you".
Bruh when I heard that I had to pause the video and find the first comment that called it out. I was literally holding my mouth when he said that cause I knew that shit was gonna be controversial. I fully agree that it is victim blaming though.
if you need to do something in particular or change something about yourself in a drastic matter to "showcase" anything... then you're not really that thing, are you. You just want to be perceived as such. Because you feel as if you are not good enough the way you are and through validation of others, you get the boost in confidence that you yourself lack.
As a girl who doesn’t wear makeup, lots of girls in high school told me I should start wearing it cause I’d look better with it. Looking back as an adult that was pretty messed up
Interestingly, "The Lipstick Effect" was coined during the Great Depression coz wearing something trivial like lipstick really boosted women's moods and self-confidence at such a difficult time. Psychologically, wearing make-up can have that effect on your mindset, the same way a nice outfit or fresh haircut can enhance the way you feel/think. Your self-worth shouldn't be dependent on make-up (or anything else external that make us more attractive), but it can definitely be an asset to those who know how to wield it's benefits.
I have olive skin so whenever I have to stay awake for long hours studying, I end up with crazy dark circles. I’ll put on a decent amount of concealer (and only concealer) and sit on my kitchen table and study. It makes me feel so much better even though literally NO ONE sees me 🤣🤣🤣
@@manda8512 YES! Same here. I wear concealer when I have dark circles coz it makes ME feel less tired when I see my reflection in the mirror. Not because other people care about my dark circles lol. I also wear lipstick under my mask because it makes me feel more put together for myself, even though no one else can see the lipstick lol. The lipstick is for me hehe.
VICTEM BLAMING: When the woman said she doesn't want her young cousin attracting the wrong attention, and one of you asked if that's victem blaming before the other wanted to drop the conversation; guys. Two things can be true at once. You can be a socially aware adult and recognize that where you are and what you're wearing can absolutely put you at risk AND not deserve anything bad to happen to you. If my daughter was raped after going to a frat party and taking drugs and getting drunk, guess what? My daughter is BOTH an IDIOT for making poor choices that put her at risk, AND a victem who didn't deserve anything bad to happen to her. We can't raise our kids EXPECTING the world to be perfect. We have to prepare our kids to protect themselves!
I didn’t “ wear” makeup as a kid but I played with it experimented with it. My mom probably bought me play makeup when I was 9-10 but before that I had access to makeup because I had older sisters so I probably used their stuff . I don’t think there is any harm as long as it’s not an obsession and the kid doesn’t wear makeup to get ready and go somewhere out in public. It’s a play game. Just like dressing up . We had many costumes at home princesses dinosaurs etc and I liked to play dress up it’s a creative outlet . And guess what I grew up to be a girl that barely wears any makeup because my mom barely wore if not any and she’s always reinforced to me that natural was always the best pick. So It stuck to me. I wore for the first time 14-15yo only mascara and concealer under my eyes. I tried 1 time in my life foundation and didn’t like the feel of it . Now I’m 25 the most I ever wear is mascara and concealer under my eyes. I keep my face bare but mind you, I do Have nice skin and always have had. I know I’m lucky and I am aware that some girls struggle with acne and blemishes. I would understand that they might want to cover up as adults to be seen more professional at work etc versus looking like a teenager. Like they said, it changes the way people treat you. But yeah I don’t see the problem with kids as long as it part of a healthy play dress up/makeup game. With my kid it’s a different generation nowadays but I plan on probably letting her wear mascara around teenage years 13-15 depending how she presents it to me and as long as it’s tasteful for her age. No foundation I’d rather enforce healthy skincare and try out importance on taking care of skin vs covering up if she does struggle with normal hormonal acne. Then when you are 17ish do whatever you want. Most of the time girls with really nice skin rarely feel like putting much on.
My grandmother and mother both taught me that the sooner I begin using makeup, the sooner I’d get wrinkles. They would say the pulling of skin during application is harmful and the chemicals in the makeup also. I am 32 and still not allowed to wear leggings around my grandparents or parents unless I’m at the gym with a long sweater or shirt.
I remember people on Twitter were trying to compare women wearing make up to men getting hair cuts and I never understood that comparison. Like I agree getting a crispy fade makes ur overall go up by atleast +15 but I don’t think that’s comparable to literally applying several layers of makeup especially when some people apply so much that they’re almost unrecognizable. Haircuts don’t help cover flaws(or atleast what people think are flaws) either unless you’re spraying on a new hairline.
They said the same thing about growing a beard is a man version of makeup. Growing a beard is the most natural look for a man. If I lived like a caveman for a week I wouldn't come back with a clean shave
@@MrJJacks7 to be fair...the beard these days is pretty similar to make up for a woman. I see all these dusty ass idiots with these played out beards trying to act hard now and think they sexy because they didnt shave for a couple weeks. I'm over the whole beard phenomenon. If u rock it well then great...but I feel like I see 3 1/2 out of 5 men walking around trying to be the GQ beard guy, thinking they look amazing now. It's honestly pretty cringe
I didn't see this, but I'm assuming it applies in the sense of being found more attractive and since men don't usually use unnatural methods they only had a natural method to use as comparison. Men with their beards and hair the right way are found more attractive. Too much hair or not done right isn't found attractive. Women with the right makeup are found more attractive. Too much makeup or not done right aren't found attractive.
Another example is a guy that is balding would be seen as more attractive if he goes full bald or alternatively uses hair growth stuff. Also dying hair when it goes gray.
I typically DONT wear make-up unless there's special occasion. I find that the more I wear make-up, the more I begin to NOT like how I look without it. It's a bit toxic to a certain extent.
My mom is very traditional the only time I was allowed to wear make up was my matric dance "prom dance". Sometimes I feel like I'm doing something wrong because all my female friends know about concealer and all these other stuff and i don't. Sometimes it makes me feel like I'm not woman/girly enough cuz I'm not obsessed with these
I was a Goth for, like, 25 years, and an insufferable pretention among Goths is the claim that "I'm doing it for myself, I don't care what anyone thinks of me." OF COURSE being Goth is performative. Yes I'm doing it to express myself in a way that makes me feel good about myself, but I am expressing myself to other people. I didn't spend 10 or 20 minutes every morning backcombing and spiking my hair for nobody to notice it. I'm going out of my way to present myself in a certain way. The only people who are truly doing it for themselves are the guys who go out with stained sweatpants and uncombed hair. They do not give a DAMN what anyone thinks of them.
I agree. The outcome you want might be different, but it's still to present yourself a certain way to people. When I was a goth, while I liked the style, it was a filter for me. It drove most people away and people who would have interest in me were non-judgmental and honest (which is what I wanted in my life.)
110%!! As much as you want to say its for yourself, you cannot deny that its also bc you’d rather ppl perceive you a certain way - for them to notice whatever you define as beauty. If that was the case, you’d be equally as confident doing all your daily tasks w/o it - but thats a rare site to see. At least for me.
“This content may be inappropriate of offensive” just letting you know I got this before being able to watch the video
Bro, they flagged this video for violent or graphic content. WHERE SWAY? Yaow youtube is bugging at times. How is the original full video fully monetized but we get flagged. TH-cam be flagging anything, even sensible questions not said in a hurtful manner but in a context of debate.
and they made it confirm it before being able to watch it there was no way around! , this shit is fucked up u cant make me confirm something that i haven't watch just because u as a platform want to make something up that aint true
@@AbaNPreach Starts censoring more but make sure we understand - fuck google
Yup saw that too
@@AbaNPreach YOU AINT GOT THE ANSWERS!
Makeup by itself isn't harmful to kids. It's the obsession over appearance and comparing yourself to others. It's toxic to kids' mental state when they aren't mature enough to be realistic about it.
Facts!!!
The purpose of makeup is (for the woman) to appear sexually more attractive (to men).
To wear makeup for any other purpose than this is to hide your face and/or be a clown.
Well said
According to some scientists and historians, lip stick has been used to emulate a woman’s sexual arousal, in which a red or pink color reminds you of the labia
Now imagine kids wearing makeup/lipstick
@@lb1181 History itself is good to be known because you need to understand how things are as they are. The meaning doesn't keep on being the same, it evolves with time, otherwise, no one would dare to use the word mulato/mulata, etc.
I think there is a limit. When you look so different that people can't recognize you,then its probably too much
Agreed 100%
Makes sense to me
@Cocoa Beanz true but when it's the daily routine that's too much imo
@@skulley6361 fact
@@skulley6361 Luckily you’re not the one putting it on
As a biracial girl with genetic dark circles, for me makeup was a way to not look like a raccoon 🤣 Not wearing makeup would raise questions like “Are you tired?” I would wear a minimal amount, just enough to look fresh but not a cake face. It had nothing to do with trying to sexualize myself as a teen.
I for one love my "sinister panda eyes"
Dude sameee. Im chicana n i got my dark circles from my momma. Definitely grew up getting called raccoon too. And always got that are you tired? Comment.
Same, and If there were a make up to cover my dark elbows I would do that too
I recognise myself in your story. Even though I used to like really bright make up and color contrasting. It was the same as painting on your face like a butterfly of spider web, and I don’t feel sexy etc when I did that I feel fun.
As a super pale person I literally get asked if I am sick or going to pass out when I don’t wear makeup 🤦♀️. It is easier to just throw on a little mascara, blush, and bronzer to not look like a ghost! At the end of the day whether or not you wear makeup should be up to the person.
Two and a half years ago, when I went on a first date with my now boyfriend, I wore minimum makeup, powder, lipstick, light mascara.
On our second date, I wore zero make-up, and I explained to him that I wanted him to see my face without any makeup.
We have the most beautiful relationship.
When I'm with him, ninety-five percent of the time I'm make-up free.
Also, I'm black, and my hair is natural.
At times, for a change, I'll blow it out straight, but I mostly wear it natural.
I'm black, from the Caribbean, and my boyfriend is Italian American.
My mother taught me to love myself, and in turn, I taught my daughter to love herself.
Ironically my daughter is a professional make-up artist, and she goes make-up free a lot.
She's comfortable with or without makeup. She cares for her skin, which is more important than the make-up.
To each his own, I prefer not to condem people for living their life. Everyone walks different paths.
We choose what we want, and keep it moving.
I am in agreement with everything you say here and everything you did when dating your boyfriend. I have always been makeup free with my husband (together 30 years) and on the rare occasions I wear a little bit he is completely thrown. lol He likes my regular face. My regular long, undyed, curly hair. My jeans and black tank top wardrobe. I agree with the importance of still caring for your looks in other ways. Taking care of your skin, keeping your hair in good condition, wearing clothes that fit nicely, all of those keep you looking your best whether you decide do makeup or not.
SIMULTANEOUSLY, we know tons of done-up women and they are beautiful too. I know stylish dressers...good for them.
Being a makeup artist is a cool job...so creative.
@@christineshah7330
Absolutely 😊!
Congratulations on 30 years of marriage 💑
That's, beautiful! I had to teach myself that it was ok to love myself. It makes a HUGE difference on the healthiness of the beauty industry
8:30 Aba: "TH-cam is not always fond of us"
TH-cam: And I took that personally
Know what else they took personally? The freedom of expression award!
Hahahahahaha
This
When I was growing up, my mom didn’t allow me to wear makeup so I never felt a need for it. Now as an adult, I only wear it for special occasions.
Same, you are really pretty btw!
And if it is you in your profile picture let me tell you that you’re gorgeous and you don’t need it stay blessed queen
Same here. When I was younger I didn't understand why, but now I'm greatful; I feel completely comfortable with my natural face, pimples and scars.
@@babsjob8729 Thank you! Yes, that’s me in the pic 😁
Growing up I never saw make-up in our household
I'm African so you know the women in my family only used shea butter ,cocoa butter and coconut oil
I had no idea women spent hundreds of dollars just to look like a completely different person
Towards the end of high school, I had mild acne and I had to stop trying to cover it up. I would cry every night because I didn’t look the way I did with makeup on. So I decided that I was going to force myself to get used to how I looked without the concealer. Im thankful I did. Makeup is really cool and an incredible art form, but so many of us aren’t willing to admit that it really does damage us to wear it daily and rely on it so heavily to feel confident.
And makeup gives you acne. If people just stopped wearing it and took care of their face properly then they'd have clear skin and not need it.
@@polar_bear3233 Yeah makeup does make your acne worse but there are other factors that cause acne such as hormones, stress, genetics, diet, etc. I rarely wear makeup, wash my face daily, eat well and I still have acne (and many other people do too).
@@polar_bear3233 Ehh it's not really the makeup causing it if you take it off before going to bed. Properly, with an oil cleanser or makeup remover. Otherwise, yes, this will make your acne worse because your pores are clogged.
The way I've always felt about hair and makeup is as soon as you put it on, you're stuck managing it to look that way all day. With no make up and natural hair, you don't have to worry about that management, so yeah, I do think that make up makes women more self centered because the entire aspect of having makeup on and your hair done, makes you want to keep looking perfect because it's easy for that perfect look to get out of place, so you're constantly like, "Uh, does my hair look okay? Crap, I smeared my liner, I gotta fix it."There's something more freeing about not having to worry about that management. Going to a wedding, seeing everyone at Christmas, getting professional photos done where you want to look amazing, recitals, etc. I think there's tons of situations where it's worth it to get all dolled up but as far as managing hair and make up every day, it's a no for me.
When I were makeup (rarely) I am contantly rubbing it cause it bothers me. Guy how I hate make up😭😂
The "I do it for myself" thing is true and false at the same time. Technically you do it so others see you as more attractive but that makes you feel better and it's also you who puts the beauty standard on yourself, it's a two way street.
Makeup is honestly just fun for me, it's like art. I guess I would be in the creative camp, grew up in theater & dance. During quarantine I do my makeup on days I don't leave the house, because it's fun. On days I have to run errands I don't do anything but slap a mask on my face, I'm not worried about what anyone thinks of my eyebrows.
@starving artist It's fine if you're not completely dependent on it.. it's all about balance. I think it's messed up if you do try to look a certain way because it's some current year trend but you actually think it looks like crap. In the back of your mind you're always gonna be somewhat aware how people perceive you but it's important to not let that have a big influence on you.
That’s true unless you genuinely love the art of makeup like I don’t just put it on when other people are gonna see me it’s self expression my makeup always matches my mood it’s kinda Cathartic.
@starving artist I can't really find any reason that would be harmful to other if you were makeup, so I guess it can't be a problem. The problem arise when look become an obsession that overshadow the rest 🤷♂️
@@FLdancer00 i agree. for me it's another medium to draw and paint on. You can do amazing things with a brush and its pretty fun too. if i did an art piece (or just put on mascara, eyeliner or gloss bc i just learning now) on my face, of course im going to be proud when someone compliments it or is attracted to it. It's not my sole reason, but it's a perk i don't put my life on. Me liking it is more important than a guy i'm interested in liking it, but them liking it is great too. the problem is when other people's opinions of you (or what you think they think of you), encourages you to do things to appease them, but harms you in the long run.
Wearing makeup is soooo different as a kid versus adult... and a huge reason behind not wanting kids to be wearing makeup is because you want your child to enjoy their life not being conscious about those kinds of things for as long as possible before they have to deal with beauty standards for the rest of their life
Girl when I wore make up as a child it looked more like a clown than Kylie Jenner 🤣🤣🤣🤣 but I thinks kids now are very different from what we used to be
Well with social media kids today are already having to deal with beauty standards unfortunately
I find it so creepy too, not exactly sexualizing them but something in that realm. Of course just playing around fine, but kids with a full face going out and about is so weird. Maybe it’s because beauty and insecurity over it are more of an teen to adult feeling that kids don’t really understand yet. If you tell them they are beautiful they will believe you, if you tell them they arnt...they will believe you.
That may be true but it’s a new era and kids and being exposed
To more nefarious programming
Insecurities are breed in children very early. Many children aren’t happy with themselves in elementary school. If makeup makes them happier, they should be able to wear makeup.
I have a 14 yr old niece and yes, kids are definitely dressing more scantily and like adults these days. And she started dressing like that when she was around 12. Definitely not just for dance recitals or anything like that. I personally think that adults and parents are maybe trying to let their kids “express themselves”, but the kids wanna look like their heroes and such, which nowadays are scantily dressed people on TikTok and Instagram
I gotta say as a woman it is a mind f*** to know that spending 10 mins putting makeup on completely 360 changes how people treat you
10 minutes... Thats's quick
Never saw anyone put on makeup in less than an hour
Perception affects all; tall men who are well dressed / put together are treated or looked at as strong, while short men who may look a little discombobulated will most likely put out a "creeper" vibe based on how they look. We used to use our eyes to determine threats or mates, so info we get from the "eye test" affects how we think about what we see.
You mean 180? 360 will bring you back to where you started
@@KaitouKaijuI do, it's the new style of packing on makeup from the kardashians, and credit to drag techniques, that takes a long time to do.
*One day, Aba & Preach should volunteer to be in one of these Jubilee videos* lol
I support this! Along with worthy opponents tho
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
There’s no way jubilee lets them in
@@ilan8468 hahaha I’m sure there would see an interest in having them. We, followers of these two, would go watch the video in addition of their followers. I only watch Jubilee videos through them actually
It would be like jon stewart going to cnn and school those dumb anchors(it happened before)
You know you’re becoming your parents when you start addressing people as “young folks”. 😂
28, today I caught myself saying 'thats the problem with this generation" 😖
@@soso-mx8nb happy birthday 🎊🥳
@@soso-mx8nb lol I started saying this when I was 24..and calling my coworkers 'young people', even if they were younger by just by one year, started at that same age as well. I think I am just done with my own generation lol
@James Smith bro stfu and keep moving coming with ignorance is bad for your health
I’m 31, I’m still young folks 😜 not using the term yet, maybe when I have kids I’ll feel old.
When I first met my old lady she used to wear pounds of makeup and she would not leave the house without putting all that makeup on because she always had self-esteem issues and never felt like she was pretty. plus she was cheated on and treated like crap. but she is very beautiful she is incredibly attractive bye your societal standards and I would always tell her babe you don't need make-up you're absolutely beautiful the Way You Are and it was not lying I was being honest with her and it took a couple years before she felt comfortable going out without being loaded up with makeup and for real makeup is one of those things that sometimes less is more. so she wears a little bit of makeup nowadays but not a ton and I think it really compliments her but it took a long time for her to really understand and believe in her heart and in her mind I was being honest and for her to see and feel beautiful without all that makeup on and I absolutely believe that there is such a thing as too much makeup and that when a woman wears too much makeup she is taking away from her beauty.
To touch on the words "I do it for myself" if the person is ego driven then that statement is 100% correct for thar type of person because you do things to feed your ego and in return anything that feeds their ego makes them happy and that is a form of "self love" and "self validation" regardless of what it looks like to the world. If you are not ego driven receiving too much attention from wearing makeup doesn't make you feel good because it's not whom you truly are and you aren't going to feel comfortable having to keep it up for long periods of time and you end up feeling like "you're not your true self and you are living a lie"
Make up can become toxic when you feel as if you cannot go without it. Mind you, we were born without make up. I wear it because I like to use my face as a canvas(since I don't paint). I go on a daily basis with no make up . Make up is fun to me and adds variety. I don't NEED it.
I feel it's an individual thing
@@samuelbekele3601 did u not read the comment?
🙌🙌🙌
You sound like me when I used to tell myself I need to quit smoking cigarettes. I can quit anytime I want, I don't use cigarettes as a crutch they just enhance me!
@Zachary Lyons that’s not necessarily what she’s saying. In the past, i definitely used to not being able to go out without makeup because I thought I needed it. But now I go about my day to day without it and I’m comfortable without makeup now. I do on some occasions wear makeup for like a job interview and such but I don’t use it like I used to. And unlike before I don’t feel like I need it, it just a fun thing to do on occasions. Also makeup and being addicted to nicotine are completely different. You have to completely not participate in smoking if you want to stop using. But for makeup, a person can learn to control how they use it to the point where it doesn’t damage their self image.
I feel like the ones who always preach about their confidence and use a lot of makeup all the time are the most insecure ones deep down.
All facts
Or their just experimenting with their looks...lol
@@sutr6264 You missed the point it’s the fact that ppl who do such just contradict themselves
100%
As a woman myself yes I do see this too often ESPECIALLY with Instagrammers and online Influencers getting their panties twisted when people make a comment about their makeup or appearance which makes them lowkey furious and then they make a tik tok about how they react to them...to get more attention lmao
Feel like I've experienced every side of this argument. I was never allowed to wear makeup so I started when I was 22 and no longer around my parents. It was really rough when I was a teen, struggling with acne and definitely insecure and definitely judged by other girls. When I did start wearing makeup I got a confidence boost, but it was short lived because I hadn't developed true confidence underneath. Started wearing too much makeup to compensate, and the. I realized what I was doing, cut back, and focused on developing true acceptance for my natural looks. That's when I started to feel - and therefore look more confident and beautiful. Now I am not dependent on makeup, but I do enjoy and women are still judged by looks, so there are certain situations where I know I have to wear makeup if I want to be fairly considered along with others. Jus how it is.
TH-cam may not be fond of you guys but I absolutely love listening to you two. Love trying to break everything down and make sense of it all
I love that Aba and Preach can disagree because it creates a conversation between them and makes them expand on their ideas.
Yea it's a good thing they aren't friends
Preach always comes back around to agree with Aba says though....like he gets scared or something
@@marissasf7196 I noticed that as well. He needs to stick to his guns a bit more.
@@oag2167 🗣absolutely💯
i feel aba has a hard time being wrong. he also likes to have the first and last word a lot. he also tends to have a hard time actually letting preach speak and actually listening to what preach says.
My gf right now won’t even let me look at her face when doesn’t wear make up. I’m not trying to brag or nothing but objectively she is very beautiful. It’s crazy how insecure she is while being so naturally attractive, really I think the cosmetics industry and society has done a number on her and girls like her
Edit) I have of course seen her without make up before. It is not as serious as maybe my original post implied. We have spent plenty of time hanging out when she is not wearing make up, but she gets uncomfortable if I look directly at her face. I just wanted to clarify
This is all too common.
Facts 💪🏾 I love the fact my wife doesn’t wear makeup....(only on selected special events...but overall she holds it Down‼️)
It's actually crazy, I can understand the make-up for the natural look. But still, people should be able to embrace their natural face. That's the real you
“BeCaUse! You’re a man! You can’t understand!”
- *a Feminist, somewhere far in the back*
@sandra caraveo - sadly, pretty girls are usually the most insecure.
Such an awesome discussion and subject matter!!! I thoroughly enjoyed this! I appreciate the real and blatant honesty you all bring to the forefront on controversial topics! Y’all seem cool as hell to hang with too! Kudos guys.
“There’s more levels to her reality” I LOVE that for some reason. Thank you Preach, that was just very nice to hear someone be empathetic in that way
On that kids dressing like adults topic, that's what happens when parents don't do their part anymore and let Tik Tok and the social media do the parenting for them.
When I was 15 I dressed like an adult, whats the problem? When adults try to control and limit what other kids wear thats the problem
People haven't been proper parents since the 70s. There are good ones but its drastically gone downhill. Now we have a generation of entitled, whiney, sad, delusional adults. Society is showing it, how fast its desolving for peoples feelings.
Right but this has been going on for decades. It's just more outlets for it. There used to magazines, then MTV, now it and tik tok and a lot if it from the ppl they see in real life may be the mistresses on the street wear it, their aunts, older sister, shii maybe even their mom
@@reinhartgregory what kind of “adult” did you dress as. If it was a conservatively dressed, respectable adult than that’s fine, but when children dress up like “adult” degenerates because that’s what they’ve been told to idolize. It represents a much larger problem.
Anymore?
Aba breaking out in French felt like he was breaking out of character 😂😂
Ifkr I was like 👀👀👀
🤣🤣 that was amazing
french or creole?
@@ineedya123 sounds like French
I’m Haitian but I don’t know creole because I was adopted
When I was 16 I was going to McDonald’s to get my first job and my foster parent literally went in on me yelling at me because I didn’t have makeup on. I was dressed nice and professionally but I didn’t have makeup on and she yelled at me saying I obviously don’t care about supporting myself because I couldn’t care enough to wear makeup to an interview. It’s really upset me.
You're fine honey. I managed to score a job a Tiffany & Co. without a splotch of makeup on. Every round of interviews I went through, even when I had pretty bad teenager skin, not once did it stop me. If you turn up on time, you are polite, you are clean, you are wearing sensible clothes and you can answer questions with confidence and competence, you will have a hell of a good shot. Much better a shot than someone who comes in with wonderful makeup, but no marketable skills. Keep your chin up and ignore your foster parent. She has an outdated view of going into the workplace, or she is projecting her insecurities and jealousy onto the beautiful young person that you are. You can succeed despite her awful attitude, don't let her stupidity drag your accomplishments down. You're a resourceful, resilient person if you're only 16 and planning ahead for your future. That's already a solid sign that you will excel. Good luck! xxx
A&P im deaf so i rely on lip-reading vastly more than hearing, so when i see you listen to someone and i see you guys mouth a comment quiet in the background
sometimes i get it, which is funny for me, but sometimes i dont, and cuz i rely on lip-reading mostly, i feel more drawn to know what you said
sometime to point out, love your content either way
I'm 16 and I always get uncomfortable when I see a girl younger than me wearing something a girl older than me would wear. It just shows how much influence these young adult women on social media have on the younger generation.
Same
No, it shows bad parenting. It ain't up to the world to raise someone's kids
I’m 18 and I’m a man I see the same thing it really is ridiculous to
@@NYD666 Say it again for the people at the back.
I felt the same way and social media didnt exist.
I hate that narrative that makeup is just an enhancement. The people that tend to use that argument typically are unable to even leave the house with a bare face. Makeup is okay if you’re taking care of your skin underneath.. and if you’re comfortable being seen without it. But I even have friends who don’t even want to FaceTime without having their makeup done ... it’s sad.
Agree. Some people said to me that makeup make them feel more confident but truth is that they loose confidence in themselves. Neenagers should be discouriged from doing makeup every day and tought how to care for their skin instead. Learn how to accept and love themseles.
If you NEED makeup to be seen in front of even your loved ones, then you have deep insecurities and an obsession.
It's possible to wear makeup for subtle enhancement and/or special occasions, but caking your face till it's orange? Nah.
Fellas be careful, some women could even hide a third eye under the makeup. See the face before you cough up the ring!
Nonsense. There are people born with skin conditions, port wine stains, have burn marks, etc... and wear make up to cover the thing they feel self conscious about. Its great to say own your imperfections but considering most humans are assholes who stare and make comments, many women just prefer to wear make up.
@@concamon1364 I don’t agree with that fr tho lol , that’s probably the case for you . But I know women who just wanna look their best all the time . I can’t face time without having my hair brushed lol it’s just about you always wanna look a certain standard you set for yourself . Since when does wanting to look your best reflect a negative light
@@susiex6669 But then makeup is considered an enhancement though
Love your perspective.
As I get older, I want to wear more makeup. It's to cover up insecurities. Wrinkles, spots, etc.
But I'd like to be comfortable without it.
I tend to hold back a little bit because I don't want to look as though I am wearing too much either.
I try to keep my makeup bag as small as possible.
I find that the more you wear makeup, the more you need it.
I just want to say I appreciate your content. Your view, even when it's different than everyone else's. Y'all deliver it well. I appreciate y'all! 🙏
Back in my day, a kid wearing makeup was deemed 'Growing up too fast', and I do agree🤷🏼♀️
It matures their face and that’s dangerous fr
@@ayana902 heck yeah it is!
Ok now it makes sense why 16 year old girls look like they are 23-24 years old
A teenager checked me out at the grocery store a few weeks ago and she had on makeup like she was going to the prom after her shift. It threw me off, I just couldn’t understand why so much just to check groceries 🤷🏾♀️. She looked so much older with all of it on too
Now girls see it on ig and want to try it for them selves they don’t understand that concept they just see what others are doing and wanna follow
Love the content and great questions raised! Also really love the outro music lately
I grew up bullied because I was the awkward ugly duckling kid and the thing was I always wanted to wear makeup and shit but I was always steered away from it.. I'm glad I was though in hindsight.. early formative year and I think while any kid is still developing they should be taught to be comfortable and confident in their own skin as is, I learned that through the good and bad of those times in my younger years and now as a 24 year old woman I feel as comfortable and confident as is with makeup as without and when I do wear makeup it's more to compliment my features not to completely cover and reconstruct my face or appearance to something off the walls different
When your confidence and personality is found in a bottle of any form, there's a problem.
True shit
*throws out my bottle of vodka*
Louder for the kardashians in the back!
true!
@@rezaystar2496 the kardashians were stupid because they created a standard that they couldn’t even achieve. why get all of that surgery to look good online and still have to edit your pics? plus they look crazy irl. it’s just sad.
As a mom I am very minimalistic with my makeup. I don’t excessively contour or any of that stuff because I want to make sure I still look like myself when I’m done applying it. I can’t tell my daughter she’s beautiful as she is if I’m completely changing my face with makeup 🤷🏾♀️
Yep. And same with the hair. I saw how it affects my daughter when they see me slay wigs. It is innocent but ideas about beauty are being formed. Love the mane btw!
You could look like yourself, but at the end of the day there's still enhancements and changes being done that realistically and technically aren't you because they don't exist on you. Something as simple as just darkening your eyebrows... You now present yourself to the world with darker eyebrows than you really have.
Exactly it can really dmg little girls, everybody should raise their chest and be proud of who they really no matter how they look. All ppl have some good quality`s that will be appreciated by good ppl, ppl need to stop caring so much about how the world view them, Having some good ppl around you should be enough. Its not realistic that everybody should like you, only a very small percentage can ever achieve that
@@TheAfroGoddess thank you ma’am! And I completely agree about the hair thing. I try my best to keep mine it it’s natural state, not because I have anything against wigs or anything like that, but so that she’s comfortable with her hair too. These European beauty images are very pervasive, it can be tough!
@@navataru there’s nothing wrong with enhancing your beauty, not sure where you got that from my comment. Darker eyebrows doesn’t completely alter your face like contouring can. I said I try to keep it simple, no further inference required 🤷🏾♀️
Aba, that shirt in the beginning is fly 💸
Edit now that I've watched the whole video:
I'm a woman who really is on both sides of this and it was interesting hearing both perspectives. The perspective I feel like seemed to be missing on the "pro-makeup" side is the one that I (and many others) share, which is that doing my makeup is fun...like it's a way to spend time with myself and be creative on my face. And I have no issues with my natural bare face, I take good care of my skin and I'm perfectly comfortable to go out or even to work with or without makeup (and I, too, adopted a personal policy of no-makeup first dates because I just wanted to feel natural and comfortable). And sometimes I will do a full face at home alone with nowhere to go because I'm bored and I like playing in it (and I don't even take pictures for social media 😱). I just wish that even one of the people on the pro-makeup side would have said they do it because it's fun.
I don't mind getting notifications to watch older videos but yt is definitely messing with you guys. 2nd video this happened with. So I'm going to comment anyway... I feel as though social media has a hold on a lot of people where they feel that they have to have this unrealistic appearance of themselves to be beautiful. All the makeup and all the filters are causing gorgeous people to doubt themselves because they're not 100% flawless. Flaws are wonderful because they tell a story about who you are. My stretch marks may not be attractive but they tell a story of who I am and that I am a mother. I may have bags under my eyes because I was up all night with a sick child. My hair may be turning gray but that's just because I'm aging into an even more beautiful version of myself without filters needed. Be proud of you. Easier said than done but it's possible.
Growing up I wasn't allowed makeup until I was 13. I watched all my friends get makeup before me and it completely turned me off of ever wearing makeup. I watched my friends go from kids who cared about playing outside or the newest idol group to not being able to go anywhere until their makeup was done because they were "Soooo ugly" without it. They didn't think themselves ugly before it...
I can relate! I wasn't allowed to wear makeup as a kid either, and just didn't get into it.
Where the hell are all you girls when I need y'all??? As a guy, I've always been annoyed looking at girls with their faces completely masked with make up. I'm my school, almost every single girl had shit ton of make up on their faces and it always disgusted me...
@@musicimpact7120 same.
Same here . I was 13 when I started using makeup. I am glad I was not allowed to.
I was allowed to use make up and I never had any issues with my looks, not then and not now.
The whole video
“I do this for myself. It boosts my self confidence.”
But then go on to explain that “I wear it to keep up the image I’ve made for myself. I do it to impress others, I do it to make others jealous. I wear it because myself confidence is nothing without it”
people don't work the same way
i make up myself and people call me a clown for use unnatural colors and i wear light make up on my work bc i dont want to look like a clown at the office but sometimes forgot wear make up too
and make up its not only for women
usually i had to wear something to change my features to look more masculine and not being misgendered or being threatened like a simple tomboy (sorry for my bad english )
@@gatopuchin2512 Your English isn't that bad, it just takes a little more careful reading.
This was hard to watch. They basically all seem to acknowledge that unnatural beauty standards can be harmful for people, and they didn't waste any time pointing out harmful beauty standards in media.
Then they flaunt the fact that no one on the internet has ever seen their actual face, and how great it is to be able to smooth out blemishes with a filter, or how depressing it is to go out and not have the "star power" and glam that makeup provides.
Really disturbing imo, they're obsessed with image, recognize that is a result of false imagery they've been exposed to... And they go out and perpetuate that exact standard among their own friends, community or online group.
It makes my head hurt that these people blame Hollywood's standards of beauty and yet they themselves are likely contributing to the issue even more, because they ARE the average person that another nobody is going to compare themselves against, and they're not able to be honest about their appearance.
@@BrotherCarver thank you
You hit the nail on the head. It’s becoming shameful to admit u don’t like urself- their actions show this but U aren’t allowed to call them out because they hide being the self-love facade. This is more toxic and makes you dislike urself even more because u are in denial. I love makeup but I can be without it, I know of women who claim to clove themselves and they only do makeup for themselves these same women would never DARE take photos or be out in public (even at the gym lol) without makeup. It’s becoming sad but hey! They “love themselves”
From the start, makeup has been a tool of seduction used by women. Seduction implies sexuality. So deep down, not wanting to have children using makeup is not wanting children to come closer to sexuality. To me, It sounds logical and has pretty good parenting behavior.
It was actually used by Men first ... Like heels
I love what preach said near the end...long form unedited conversation are our salvation, editing can tank any video or conversation
“TH-cams not very fond of us” I died 😂😂😂
You know it's real when Aba start speaking French 😆
🤣🤣🤣
Giiiirl ! I thought the same 🤣🤣🤣
He speak creole too, one of the best languages
@@youngvicious1017 no it’s not lol
@@imnotxden2794 ha! Please, let him know. 🤦🏾♀️🤣🤣🤣
LISTEN, the first couple of minutes of this is everything I'm constantly questioning and confused by within certain communities and their mindsets and the things they say. It feels like a constant contradiction which feels bizarre to me. Like they're not even taking it seriously 😳 idk 🤷🏿♀️ like contradicting yourself should come with growth and development and change because as we age we should be developing new mindsets or certain things we felt before. But certain people are literally just a walking contradiction, no growth or nothing yet lol they say one thing and then say or perform life in the exact opposite way of what they said in terms of gender and sex roles
Hey Aba, here's my take on the first minute about makeup and womanhood: To me, it sounds like Makeup allowed Her (specifically- probably pre-trans) to physically/visually present as the woman she always felt she was on the inside as he was still a man. I don't think she meant it any deeper than that.
However, as far as makeup being inherently feminine... there's a strong correlation suggestion this stereotype is true. Though makeup has unisex applications in media industries (tv, movies, music, news anchors, etc), in everyday life, makeup is usually utilised to enhance feminine features (eg. men transforming themselves into drag 'Queens'). Hetero-normative men do NOT wear makeup in regular, everyday settings while doing their blue or white collar jobs, during sports, buying groceries, going to the movies or amusement park. So Makeup is attached to women, transwomen, gay and effeminate men (previously rudely called 'girly' men).
So... *shrug* -- just my 2c
being a woman is not a conglomerate of stereotypes.
I mean men use makeup for masculine purposes but its not discussed because of the perceived stereotype. Straight men use makeup and cosmetics fo sho
The commercials also target women because of insecurity and that they statistically buy more things. They prey on insecurity.
I LOVE the fact that Aba spoke on the contradiction between fighting against stereotypical gender roles while also associating those things in many people’s transitions
that contradiction is part of the journey
I'm not particularly fond of it, specially because I myself am not a super feminine woman, however, I understand that it might also be a practical need. A lot of transwoman don't pass completly as women, you can tell that somethins "off". So maybe a lot of them lean onto a more stereotipical feminine image to be able to blend in better.
@@beatrizfernandes1506 Exactly! While biological women don't need makeup, for transwomen pre-transition makeup and clothes are literally the only option to express how they feel on the inside. It's their only option to be adressed as a she/hers.
As someone who aspires more women anticipation, this shows how they have most of the time a minority complex instead of gender dysmorphia. Like being a woman is more then make up and dolls. They’re going straight back to the 50’s gender models
its almost like gender norms are just kinda bullshit and discriminating based on gender is also bullshit g
While makeup can positively increase your looks, I think it’s harmful that you look like a COMPLETELY different person when you take it off. Those same people screech body positivity
It depends who you do it for. For me makeup has always been self expression I’ve loved it since I was like 5 I wasn’t allowed to wear it until I was 14 bc my parents didn’t understand it wasn’t to please others it was art. I feel like if you can’t enjoy putting on makeup when nobody is gonna see you then you are wearing it for the wrong reasons
@@Luvvserena111 it's always for other people, just like a guy with a big pick up truck or loud moterscycle isnt doing it for anyone but everyone else lol
It depends how the person does the makeup. Some people can look completely different and some people can look the same with it on or off
Lol, screech.
I heard that as “REEEEEEE!!!!!” 🤣🤣🤣
Yesss!!! I don't understand the logic... If all the compliments you get are when you look like a completely different person, how can that boost your confidence when you KNOW that's not what you look like irl...
I appreciate the fact you guys can have a calm debate and actually understand each other's ideas
Commenting for the boost. Love your content!
Man Aba made ripples in the matrix. "Isn't that victim blaming." This definitely needs a bigger conversation on makeup in society
We also need to have a conversation about the difference between victim blaming and taking responsibility for ones own safety and security to avoid being victimized.
Yeah I have spoken to women about them feeling like they shouldn't have to worry about getting assaulted or whatever walking home alone at night.
And they're absolutely right. They shouldn't have to.
But they do. Just like men. So as unfair as it is they do need to keep themselves safe. I always keep an eye on people and try not to be alone when possible and I am a 6ft man who goes to the gym.
Makeup is faking your looks, whatever people say. It's like a guy renting an expensive car and at night he returns it and takes the metro home.
@@NinaLady11 facts the problem with victim blaming is not the idea itself it is the conflation of victim blaming with the other idea you mentioned
@@bencepandi3568 no
When I was in jail. No make up, no filters, none of that.... after about 2 months I would look in the mirror and think I was beautiful. But prior to that, I didn’t feel that way without make up or a filter.. because I was constantly seeing a better version of me. But once I took that all away, I was comfortable for the first time in my own skin, like really comfortable: and I remember thinking how crazy it was.
No, it wasn't a better version of you, it was a mask and you weren't used to see your true yourself
Laura alot of girl , also my ex girl looking better without make up. Like the natural look way more. When we even go further and talk about with them lip implants etc. .. thats nasty
@@priscustheroman3513 Yea, lightly used could highlight some features but I totally agree with you
Now that I have a daughter I want to raise her to feel beautiful without makeup and naturally secure without all the extra stuff we feel we need. I speak from experience because I feel I am not as confident without makeup and after doing so much damage to my skin with products I made my skin worse. All because I was trying to achieve “perfect” skin. Those are my own insecurities by seeing all the glam and “perfection.” Which I had such great skin before 😢
Every parent will raise their child how they feel is right based on how they may have been raised, experience, and a lot of other reasons… also don’t get me started on the clothing 😒
Love preach! So refreshing!
It’s the putting filters over makeup looks for me. Not only are you not even showing the true look, you’re misleading people about the quality of the makeup. I don’t understand layering on makeup, getting all types of work done, using filters, and editing the pictures TOO 😭 just goes to show if you don’t truly love yourself nothing will ever be good enough.
Like walking on the beach in a speedo with a cucumber 🥒 stuffed in it.wouldnt you be angry buying a bag of cheese puffs but they have Cheese ITs inside.False advertising like Steroid use without that Hulk wouldn't be mad no more which they regret especially when they're older.Just my point of view I've never been a 🦚
Not to be that guy, but don't you have a filter on your profile photo with makeup?
@@GodisWunderbar I think she may have been referring to makeup tutorial videos highlighting the makeup. ( That's how I interpreted it at least)
I unfollowed someone on IG when they did makeup tutorials using a filter. And they were using makeup from their own makeup line.
Bada Boom Baby!
I’m 26 and still don’t really know wtf I’m doing with make up. I very rarely wear it
Honey I'm 36 and same 😂 I want to use those 2 hours a day to do other things 🤷🏼♀️
Chilleee!!!😂🤣 Same here, except I'm in my forties!
saaaame, 24 and I literally never even owned a base or foundation or whatever they call all these. I just have eyeshadows to play with different colours when i'm feeling artistic lol
Same 😂 I’m also 26 and don’t even want to know! I’ll wear mascara very rarely but that’s about it. I have an A1 skin routine tho 😉
Me: wears foundation, gets eyebrowns done and puts on mascara
also me: it's a full face 👁️👄👁️
I like how these ladies are being open and civil on both sides. Good to see
You guys are such a good pair, ye bounce off each other so well.
Filters are scary. I use to be very confident until I started using Snapchat, and I saw a... prettier version of Me, and even tho I know that version of me isn’t possible with or without plastic surgery, I know that nobody has skin like that, with zero texture and pores but...it still hurt my self esteem a lot. I would get ready, naturally check the mirror and be like damnnn girl you cute!!! But as soon as I saw myself with a filter, then take the filter off... I would immediately feel insecure, even tho I was confident 10 mins prior. It was so bad, I had to delete Snapchat for a while Bevause it was really messing with my head, as a grown woman!!! I can’t imagine how bad it is for children and teens.
Absolutely, this was one of the reasons I deleted Snapchat back in middle school. At least Instagram didn't smooth people faces down(didn't last long though 🙃
@@bromance3496 Oh yes. Instagram filters even have those features modifications incorporated. It became so cringe...
This happened to me too. I am 14 years old and I deleted snapchat a few months ago because I started to hate the way I looked without a filter on. Its like, I would be feeling myself with a filter and then I take it off and suddenly I look super ugly. Now I feel a lot more confident in my natural face!
I used to get so excited to browse the new filters snap came out with. But the better me hurt my self esteem, so now I only take pictures sans filters of parts that I like (e.g., eyes, dimples, eyebrows, etc.).
I heard a little boy ask his mum, 'what is the matter with that lady's face' which summed up the overload.
Mom: "Well, that Lady isn't wearing her make up, son".
Yep I know the feeling of girls changing their look so much either it look to scary or weird. I know because I know some girls who does this and I'm like this is like lying to the world really like you lied about your age and your face. And they shouldn't get mad if the guys fund out and gets upset to.
@@sebswede9005 lol
One of the reasons I never went to any school dances, the girls I knew suddenly were diff people. Made me bare uncomfortable
I really enjoyed this show. You now have a new subscriber.
Jordan Peterson discusses the intentions behind makeup (when discussing the me too movement) and he says that the intention of makeup is to mimic the sexual arousal eg how blood travels to particular areas in that circumstance flushing the cheeks etc.
So on those grounds I agree that children should not wear makeup. It’s not a good idea to give them the impression they should wear makeup from childhood. Perhaps it could have an impact on self esteem later on, also children should not be sexualised, they should be kids. If a child is “putting on some lipstick” like mummy because they want to be like her then I think that’s harmless, just as they want to help vacuum and other things they see a family member doing. They should not be encouraged to hold the belief that their esteem is related to the way they look. Be healthy and your skin will glow and you won’t need makeup. 👌🏼💕 I had bad acne as a teen and I wish I hadn’t been placed so much importance on my skin.
🤔 *I don’t agree with girls wearing suggestive clothing meant for adults or wearing makeup. There are ways for girls to look pretty without having a bunch of skin showing and makeup on and I think it’s important to establish that foundation of thought first. Secondly, it’s very easy for a 14 year old to look 21 these days considering how their bodies develop, how much makeup girls wear these days and the type of clothing and hair extensions as well. I don’t want help some grown man get inappropriate ideas about my “theoretical” child nor help the child deceive others.*
exactly your thinking works wonders
it's not the persons fault when other people see them in a sexual way, as literally anything can be seen in an inappropiate way. How about we stop putting blame onto the "victims"
I agree. But I also think girls should be able to express themselves. Though that would be hard seeing the number of disgusting people out there. I'm 13 myself and I choose to wear light makeup, not to make myself look like I'm 18, but to showcase to the world who I am...if that's makes sense XD
@@xenia5016 This was me as a teenager. I wasn’t allowed to express my femininity the way I wanted because of what potential perverts what think.
@@xenia5016 yes but it is a fact that certain types of clothes/makeup are made specifically to make someone more attractive/accentuate their natural gifts. If people wear these kinda clothes/makeup it isnt that weird to see someone in a sexual way.
The saying “I wear makeup for myself” is genuinely true for some people and not true at all for others. There’s times when I don’t wear makeup for a week cause I like my bare face. Then other times I want to wear makeup for the sole purpose of just wanting to wear it because I like it. I’m constantly seen going out with a bare face and going out with makeup. I love both sides of me and it’s as simple as that. A large group of people feel this way too but it seems like society wants to group everyone so badly into the ‘no makeup side’ or ‘always makeup side’
THIS!! Me AF!!
I enjoy both sides of me as well. It really depends on the mood. I love the idea of having choices. That's it.
exactly ! i rarely wear makeup but when i do it's strictly for myself. sometimes i put on red lipstick just to go out with a mask that covers it lol, knowing i'm wearing it makes me feel cool haha
THIS. Thank you. I wear makeup for fun when I feel like it. I don’t rely on it to change my appearance. I’m not obsessed with appearances or insecure. Makeup can just be a hobby. It’s not always a mask for insecure people. It depends on the person.
Yes and I'm sure Chad Super big pick up truck and loud moterscyle are just for him huh? Like he isnt a n insecure little baby on the inside lol. Step out of the make up ma'am lol
@@Rocky13Ray did chad hurt you
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I personaly see makeup as an accesorie and something relaxing to do. It's like getting a hair cut, doing a different hairstyle, getting a piercing or tattoo, or choosing my clothes. I don't wear makeup because I don't like myself but because I like makeup itself.
But there are women who have insecurities or are even mentaly unstable and wear makeup to feel better about themselves (I don't see that as necesarily bad, because makeup can be a little help for self-esteem and maybe in the future you won't feel as bad). Like when you have a red af pimple and you don't feel good looking like that and just prefer to hide it until it goes away.
Makeup itself has nothing negative, what can make the situation look bad are the people who wear it for their reasons behind.
I think it's very easy to lie to ourselves about why we wear makeup. In my early twenties I truly believed that I wore makeup because it was an artform and a form of self-expression. Then I was cast in play where the director insisted on no makeup for the show, and no makeup in rehearsals so we could get comfortable with it. Going from full face everyday to suddenly wearing no makeup for weeks, I realized very quickly that the true reason I wore makeup was because I straight up didn't like what I looked like without it. I was just lying to myself about why I wore it.
I also found that even though I'm a cis woman, I felt less like a woman without makeup on. I found myself compensating by doing things like painting my nails more, or wearing more stereotypically feminine clothing. Definitely a great learning experience for me!
Thank you for saying this.
How do you know that your dependence on make-up didn't come about as a result of you using it for a prolonged period of time?
That's to say, maybe when you started with it, you genuinely did it as a form of artistic expression, however, the more you used it and the possible confidence boost it came with, the more it shifted you acclimated to it such that the sudden shift back was jarring.
I'm sincerely curious.
I personally started wearing make up as a form of art and later found out it was a way for me to get out of my disorder. It is a way for me to hide it from the people I know, because I don't want them to wonder about what's going on. I don't think everyone has the same disorder but I do think they too hide something with make up.
Thank you for such an honest post. We all do those kind of things unknowingly, makeup doesn't need to be involved. Not everyone is lucky enough to find out what they're using to over compensate tho (or what they're compensating for).
Pain is beauty, beauty is power. Power is life, and life is pain...
Hey recently former kid here, being in middle and high-school was a struggle. The girls there were all wearing suggestive clothes just tame enough for the dress code 2 not be violated if not just saying fuck it and doing it anyways which did happen.
I have a fun fact about makeup... this is why some people break out too. The company I work for rents out part of their building to a company that collects the oil/grease/fat whatever, from fast food restaurants and then they sell the oil/grease to cosmetic company's to make, makeup and other beauty products. That's why some people breakout like crazy after they use the products...and these are top brand cosmetic company that buy the grease. Thanks for making your videos.
"Are kids wearing suggestive clothing more fit for adults?"
Absolutely yes. They were doing it when I was in junior high, and as their peer, I was constantly disgusted by it. I was born in 1989, and it was bad then in the '00s.
Yup! I’m ‘87, and when I was in school the pants were so low girls had to shave their cha cha. Plus those slinky little half tops, the ones with no back and just a tie. Looking back…smh 🤦♀️
92'. I remember in the 00's, shorts and pants with words on the tush. Words like "CUTIE" and "WILD".
I remember in early high school being judged by peers for not wearing push up bras.
I know my mom struggled when we went clothes shopping because most outfits for sale were too "sexy" in the girls and juniors sections.
It's sad that there is so much pressure for girls to become and look like a woman too soon.
@@thedarknun300 omg those juicy couture velour sweat suits!!!! 😂 my mom shopping with me in 2001 when I was in high school was like 😳 💀
I was born in 90 and I remember my Uncle being very angry at this sort of thing when I was 10 and I could not understand what was going on, now I see it
Yeah and it went downhill in the 2010s
When I stopped wearing makeup I got so much more comfortable and confident in my beauty. Beauty is unique in everyone, all these people started looking the same with a lot of makeup.
the reason i never got into makeup was because of all the jokes i saw about women taking off their makeup for the first time in front of their boyfriends. i never wanted that to be me so i just kept it to a minimum and cleared my skin.
Same! I used to not leave the house without makeup but since about a year, I'm bareface most of the time and only wear makeup for special occasions. My skin is so much clearer lol and I'm definitely more confident now.
I wore makeup maybe 4 times in my life (only 20 though) and I hated it everytime. Feels like a mask and family members said I looked better with it, which was hurtful cause I felt like I wasn't enough without it. I also don't think kids should wear makeup but that's just me.
Haven't worn makeup thru the pandemic, I am comfortable in my looks ,but I do miss it..I never wore a whole lot to begin with ,so I ain't insecure I just enjoy wearing it..these days women wear a whole different face,it's crazy !!!
I've never liked the look of makeup on most people (only when it's done so well I don't even notice it... But then you get close and see a fine layer smeared over everything, yuck). I'm a sucker for a bit of eye shadow though to be fair.
My gf doesn't wear makeup either and I swear she has some of the most vibrant healthy skin I've ever seen, it's soft and smooth and has a nice rosy color around the cheeks.
Meanwhile to my horror it seems like many of the people wearing makeup regularly have AWFUL skin that's rough and cracked and all pock marked. I assumed that was the reason they wore makeup in the first place, but my gf says it's likely the makeup that damaged their skin!?
What the heck are people doing to themselves if that's true? Covering up nice skin with gross products that leave you horribly scarred by age 30..? Is this even true or just something she says to justify no makeup lol? Not that she even needs justification, but it just seems crazy to me that the makeup itself could be so damaging!
id like to say that being a guy that likes taking time on my hair personally it goes both ways. i wanna look good for other people but to me i actually want to look good to myself if that makes sense. people be telling me my hair looks good and i just either dont see it or always want to improve it so i look good cuz it makes me feel good. kinda like dressing up. yes it is for other people to view me in a better light but i also just feel good looking nice. its hard to explain but i hope you get me
I can relate.
If make up boots your confidence, then just do it! Showing up and having confidence, makes you win half of the battle - why would you deny yourself anything that can boost your confidence? If you don't need it for a confidence boost, then all the more power to you, boo!
The topic about how innapropriate kids dress nowadays should be on this channel too.
Parents and parenting is so absent sometimes it gets really wild.
Parents want to be friends with their kids instead of being parents
Yeah it gettin bad
It's partly to blame on parents but more responsibility goes to society. Kids are sexualized I'm our society and it's sad
@@capo4ever334 Feel like there is nothing wrong with wanting to be your child’s friend maybe because that’s something I kinda wish I had with my mom but at the same time if that does happen then the parent can still tell the child right from wrong and let them know when they are doing wrong. Discipline can or SHOULD still be there
@@swizzygod834 right. Be friends but don't facilitate bad or horrible behavior. No when to be a parent, a friend, and when to discipline
There’s no age limit to insecurities, so what Jubilee is saying is confusing me because if it’s bad for adults than it can be bad for kids.
There's no age limit to insecurities but adults do identify and handle insecurities better.
Especially in today’s society.. we didn’t have social media when I was a a kid. I was like 16 when MySpace became relevant. Yes, back then we all still had insecurities because we would point out our own flaws and compare ourselves to other girls we knew. But now days... these kids are growing up with the internet and they’re exposed to so much more. They see all these influencers that look perfect and they want to be that way. It seems to be a lot worse for kids these days than it was 20 years ago and I think there are a lot of adults who don’t really realize this. Most things these days are extremely contradictory though lol
Right, I only think makeup personally effects a person if they are insecure
I think people think they do stuff for themselves, but actually it's because they want to feel accepted. But most people don't realise this is why they're doing things. You can say the same for many things e.g. you might think you're studying and working hard "for yourself" but actually it's because you want to be more socially accomplished so you can reap the social rewards of that and be admired etc. You might think you're painting for your own artistic pursuits, but likely you hope to share it with others and receive feedback or compliments. Similarly, someone who does makeup in their room and doesn't show anyone may be doing it simply for the artistic self-expression, but if it's to make themselves look more attractive, they're probably doing that because they've subconsciously assimilated messages from society that being attractive leads to greater social success. Even people who seek riches often are doing it for social reasons. We're social animals after all, we just kid ourselves into thinking we are independently minded 😬 Being accepted by society is basically about having a sense of security, the same as having money is. Having social connections can be more powerful than having savings in the bank. There's little difference really between people who do things purely for the money and people who do things purely to gain social status. Money and social status are two sides of the same coin (money is a social construct after all).
Last comment, watch this just reminded me of how almost everyone is or feels pressured into becoming a person they never were. I'm afraid most of the time that happens it's for the worse. It's sad and it has to do with the parents. I'm sure these people just wanted validation. That's where it all stems from.
The more I grow up the more I realize how people still act like children, mentality because sex, love, standers, and confidence have always been distant to people. I am still learning also but there are a lot of things wrong with the world rn.
Yes we are broken people, hijacked from focus in growing your life wisdom. Reflection and healthy self-talk got lost under an immense ammount of distractions. Once it was the leaders of a nation that tried the distract us with bread&play, now we do it ourselves and it creates generation after generation of grown childish people. I also see that if people never thought about a question, they tend to easily take on the first answer they hear just because it sounds logical....
Money is also a great curse upon earth we need to change
*standards
I agree. Very sound argument.
Bro fax. Plp have such low self esteem over nothing really
@@phoenix-king779 it goes back to porn influence
"Don't you wish short guys had make-up to make them feel taller."
They're called heels. Back in the old days of colonial America, they used to be strictly high-class men fashion.
Oh how the tables have turned.
@Gage King i have seen lot girls take off make up and i lose interest bc of all the make up sometimes makes them look different like being Catfished
There were platform shoes in the 70's too. I wouldn't mind if they came back in style.
I hear you Aba. My thought on kids wearing makeup is this:
We reserve certain things for adulthood assuming adults are more mentally prepared to handle certain situations responsibly. Alcohol, smoking, makeup, sexuality ought to be reserved for adults because makeup absolutely sparks a reaction from the world.
I think all of them are harmful, but adults chose to pick their poisons. We don’t feed poison to children.
On the other hand, by not leading by example, we show kids that smoking drinking being sexually alluring and wearing makeup is rewarding. It’s a contradiction. This tug-of-war between what’s good for us and what we do for clout escape and self abuse should not be a burden the kids need to carry. Let them be kids for a while longer. In a perfect world there wouldn’t be these issues but the world is vain and broken. The adults cope accordingly.
That’s my take on it.
Insert Robert Downey junior with stilts images
Heels were invented by men who rode horses and their purpose was for your foot to stay in one place while in a stirrup.
What exactly is perfection in terms of beauty? I think each person has their own opinion on the type of looks they find attractive. And remember, good looks don't make up for a horrible personality.
Very strong in saying that kids should never be introduced to suggestive clothing or those that have no difference from what provocative adults wear. Lets let kids be kids and keep their innocence and this can well be displayed by clothing them appropriately. When they are 16 and older or when they leave home to be on their own, they can choose however they want to dress and clothe themselves basis the values and principles they would have already curated growing up.
Wearing makeup has become the new natural, which sets an unreachable standard. People have kind of forgotten that having eyebags, uneven skin, not filled in brows, not long lashes without extensions, etc is normal. Most girls these days start using makeup before they are even 14
Makeup becoming "the new natural" is the result of marketing campaings combined with female "empowerment," in which there is no room for men's opinion.
@@urbanasket4915 I disagree.
@@urbanasket4915 wdym "men's opinion"? Why should there be room for men's opinion in terms of make up?
@@ggslife5482 The same reason there is a room for women's opinions on men's beauty standards?
Who's saying it's the standard? Who's saying you have to listen? How is it unattainable when pretty much everyone has access to makeup?
I overheard a coworker telling his wife, “if I had seen you without makeup I never would have married you”
He was a piece of shit, she started starving herself, working out, and developing an eating disorder because he would tear her down constantly
I don't think, rather I hope it's not representatif of the widder society
She needs self love nobody can help her til she wants to help herself
Perhaps he feels lied to. Imagine only seeing one image of someone and then finding out that image was just that, an image. I suspect that could mess with someone as well.
@@Sabrina11113 i will never understand to mental gymnastics people (especially my girl friends) do to stay with someone who doesn't even respect them. i couldnt have a healthy relationship with someone who thought i was ugly. i guess insecurity and children, but even my insecure ass knows when to end it. the love would be lost, would have to end it very soon. i've been whipped for a guy, but not so whipped i would ignore clear red flags
So this dude marry a women that never seen her without make up ?,wth he must have seen her without make up or she was good at hiding make up ,I mean I would have been pissed too if I found out that my wife look different without make up and she is been hiding it the all time ,because without make up is pretty much who you are.
On the question about kids and makeup : Im 30 years old so i have been around some time and ever since even i was a kid there were ways to support but at the same time defuse the need of using makeup for kids. What i mean by this is that there are even to this day things called 'kids makeup' which is a less pigmented but a bit glittery version of cream makeup. I think there are stages you can take to let them experience it if they are interested , for example some of them are already getting excited if you paint their nails once even if its a barely visible color. or just buy clip in hairlocks. Generally i feel like kids already have enough to experience and enjoy without makeup and even for myself the idea of makeup or shaving, getting better looking eyebrows first came from seeing my classmates doing such things. The crowd they are in as children is very influential, they look at friends , parents and teachers, combine it with their own few views of things and decide to do some of them. I dont think its healthy or unhealthy to experience makeup i think its just a stage in a life which generally should come at a later age, because one thing brings about the other, and for myself, the age of makeup, getting new outfits and putting punk rock bands on my walls was a very different time from being a very young kid learning the secret about Santa Claus.
My opinion as a mom is I don't want my daughter wearing makeup at a young age because I want her to love herself, appreciate her looks the way they are. I want her to feel pretty the way she is so that when she is older and decides to wear makeup she understands she is beautiful with or without it. I don't want her to think makeup defines her beauty it just enhances it.
Make up sometimes is used to sexualize young kids. Playing with makeup is fine. I played with make up as a kid, but my parents were very conscientious of what makeup I was wearing and I wasn't wearing it outside of the house. Remember, a child's perception is very different from an adults. I wear makeup when I want to look a little extra, but I don't need it and I don't want my daughter to think she needs it.
@Sleepy Celeste It's because they're on the stage. The lights wash out your face, so if you want to be able to see someone's features from the audience, they need to be wearing makeup. It's not about making them look like an adult or sexualizing them. At least that's the original intent. TV/movie makeup is very different from stage makeup. So when they put these kids on TV in stage makeup it looks suuuper creepy. I also agree that in some cases it's lost it's original purpose and really is just used to turn them into baby barbies....
Though after watching this video and reading a bunch of comments I'm starting to think wearing makeup at dance recitals may be part of why I don't feel the need to wear it now. As someone else said, to me makeup is a costume. And that's how I always saw it when I was a kid. At dance recitals or at fairs/parties with face painting, makeup was always presented to me as something you did for fun or for special occasions. Not as something that you need when you're just being "you".
“isn’t that victim blaming” 👀👀👀 ohhh don’t go there .
Preach your face bruh 😭
Bruh when I heard that I had to pause the video and find the first comment that called it out. I was literally holding my mouth when he said that cause I knew that shit was gonna be controversial. I fully agree that it is victim blaming though.
@@KwodwoMoore she most likely speaks from experience though.
if you need to do something in particular or change something about yourself in a drastic matter to "showcase" anything... then you're not really that thing, are you. You just want to be perceived as such. Because you feel as if you are not good enough the way you are and through validation of others, you get the boost in confidence that you yourself lack.
As a girl who doesn’t wear makeup, lots of girls in high school told me I should start wearing it cause I’d look better with it. Looking back as an adult that was pretty messed up
Girls gives each other the worst advice
Interestingly, "The Lipstick Effect" was coined during the Great Depression coz wearing something trivial like lipstick really boosted women's moods and self-confidence at such a difficult time. Psychologically, wearing make-up can have that effect on your mindset, the same way a nice outfit or fresh haircut can enhance the way you feel/think. Your self-worth shouldn't be dependent on make-up (or anything else external that make us more attractive), but it can definitely be an asset to those who know how to wield it's benefits.
This
I have olive skin so whenever I have to stay awake for long hours studying, I end up with crazy dark circles. I’ll put on a decent amount of concealer (and only concealer) and sit on my kitchen table and study. It makes me feel so much better even though literally NO ONE sees me 🤣🤣🤣
@@manda8512 YES! Same here. I wear concealer when I have dark circles coz it makes ME feel less tired when I see my reflection in the mirror. Not because other people care about my dark circles lol. I also wear lipstick under my mask because it makes me feel more put together for myself, even though no one else can see the lipstick lol. The lipstick is for me hehe.
@@fluffyhuggsy I always feel like a crazy person because I am hiding my dark circles from myself 🤣🤣 but it makes me happy so... happiness >> logic
@@manda8512 exactly! You’re doing it to make yourself happy without hurting anybody else. That seems highly logical to me haha!
VICTEM BLAMING:
When the woman said she doesn't want her young cousin attracting the wrong attention, and one of you asked if that's victem blaming before the other wanted to drop the conversation; guys. Two things can be true at once. You can be a socially aware adult and recognize that where you are and what you're wearing can absolutely put you at risk AND not deserve anything bad to happen to you.
If my daughter was raped after going to a frat party and taking drugs and getting drunk, guess what? My daughter is BOTH an IDIOT for making poor choices that put her at risk, AND a victem who didn't deserve anything bad to happen to her. We can't raise our kids EXPECTING the world to be perfect. We have to prepare our kids to protect themselves!
perfectly put, you don't blame the victim for the actions of the perpetrator, but everybody needs to take responsibility for their own safty
Well said
Well said agreed
makes perfect sense
English may not be your first language, but it's spelled victim.
I didn’t “ wear” makeup as a kid but I played with it experimented with it. My mom probably bought me play makeup when I was 9-10 but before that I had access to makeup because I had older sisters so I probably used their stuff . I don’t think there is any harm as long as it’s not an obsession and the kid doesn’t wear makeup to get ready and go somewhere out in public. It’s a play game. Just like dressing up . We had many costumes at home princesses dinosaurs etc and I liked to play dress up it’s a creative outlet . And guess what I grew up to be a girl that barely wears any makeup because my mom barely wore if not any and she’s always reinforced to me that natural was always the best pick. So It stuck to me. I wore for the first time 14-15yo only mascara and concealer under my eyes. I tried 1 time in my life foundation and didn’t like the feel of it . Now I’m 25 the most I ever wear is mascara and concealer under my eyes. I keep my face bare but mind you, I do Have nice skin and always have had. I know I’m lucky and I am aware that some girls struggle with acne and blemishes. I would understand that they might want to cover up as adults to be seen more professional at work etc versus looking like a teenager. Like they said, it changes the way people treat you. But yeah I don’t see the problem with kids as long as it part of a healthy play dress up/makeup game. With my kid it’s a different generation nowadays but I plan on probably letting her wear mascara around teenage years 13-15 depending how she presents it to me and as long as it’s tasteful for her age. No foundation I’d rather enforce healthy skincare and try out importance on taking care of skin vs covering up if she does struggle with normal hormonal acne. Then when you are 17ish do whatever you want. Most of the time girls with really nice skin rarely feel like putting much on.
My grandmother and mother both taught me that the sooner I begin using makeup, the sooner I’d get wrinkles. They would say the pulling of skin during application is harmful and the chemicals in the makeup also. I am 32 and still not allowed to wear leggings around my grandparents or parents unless I’m at the gym with a long sweater or shirt.
The fact that I got two trigger warnings before I could play this video...
This has got to be a good one
What did they say?
@@ericad528 “This content may include inappropriate or offensive material” or something along those lines.
I didn't get any, they must have removed them.
I remember people on Twitter were trying to compare women wearing make up to men getting hair cuts and I never understood that comparison. Like I agree getting a crispy fade makes ur overall go up by atleast +15 but I don’t think that’s comparable to literally applying several layers of makeup especially when some people apply so much that they’re almost unrecognizable. Haircuts don’t help cover flaws(or atleast what people think are flaws) either unless you’re spraying on a new hairline.
Like how is a shape up or a fade similar to using eye shadow or concealer🤨?!?
They said the same thing about growing a beard is a man version of makeup. Growing a beard is the most natural look for a man. If I lived like a caveman for a week I wouldn't come back with a clean shave
@@MrJJacks7 to be fair...the beard these days is pretty similar to make up for a woman. I see all these dusty ass idiots with these played out beards trying to act hard now and think they sexy because they didnt shave for a couple weeks. I'm over the whole beard phenomenon. If u rock it well then great...but I feel like I see 3 1/2 out of 5 men walking around trying to be the GQ beard guy, thinking they look amazing now. It's honestly pretty cringe
I didn't see this, but I'm assuming it applies in the sense of being found more attractive and since men don't usually use unnatural methods they only had a natural method to use as comparison. Men with their beards and hair the right way are found more attractive. Too much hair or not done right isn't found attractive. Women with the right makeup are found more attractive. Too much makeup or not done right aren't found attractive.
Another example is a guy that is balding would be seen as more attractive if he goes full bald or alternatively uses hair growth stuff. Also dying hair when it goes gray.
I typically DONT wear make-up unless there's special occasion. I find that the more I wear make-up, the more I begin to NOT like how I look without it. It's a bit toxic to a certain extent.
My mom is very traditional the only time I was allowed to wear make up was my matric dance "prom dance". Sometimes I feel like I'm doing something wrong because all my female friends know about concealer and all these other stuff and i don't. Sometimes it makes me feel like I'm not woman/girly enough cuz I'm not obsessed with these
I was a Goth for, like, 25 years, and an insufferable pretention among Goths is the claim that "I'm doing it for myself, I don't care what anyone thinks of me." OF COURSE being Goth is performative. Yes I'm doing it to express myself in a way that makes me feel good about myself, but I am expressing myself to other people. I didn't spend 10 or 20 minutes every morning backcombing and spiking my hair for nobody to notice it. I'm going out of my way to present myself in a certain way. The only people who are truly doing it for themselves are the guys who go out with stained sweatpants and uncombed hair. They do not give a DAMN what anyone thinks of them.
I agree. The outcome you want might be different, but it's still to present yourself a certain way to people. When I was a goth, while I liked the style, it was a filter for me. It drove most people away and people who would have interest in me were non-judgmental and honest (which is what I wanted in my life.)
tbf: some ppl in the stained sweatwear and uncombed hair DO care... but they're trying to look like they don't
True
110%!! As much as you want to say its for yourself, you cannot deny that its also bc you’d rather ppl perceive you a certain way - for them to notice whatever you define as beauty. If that was the case, you’d be equally as confident doing all your daily tasks w/o it - but thats a rare site to see. At least for me.
Me looking at my stains on my pants.... Oh.....
:V