Glad you did a review of this jacket. Everyone I know who was issued one swears by them. Sucks that they don’t issue them a lot unless you’re deploying or in aviation.
I'm on my second one, thankfully I've been issued them and haven't had to pay for them but for some reason mine wear out quickly, it starts with with stictching coming undone, then the color fades rapidly on the elbows, cuffs and pen pockets. I do wash mine and do follow the manufacturers washing directions but they still fade. Don't get me wrong I love it and being Security Forces and outside nearly all day every day it is a great cold weather jacket to have but they do seem to wear out quickly for me. Probably gonna bother supply for another one again soon.
I was issued one of these and I'm underwhelmed with it at it's price point. I wasn't aware it was waterproof though, that might change my mind on it. Do you know if it is just a waterproof treatment? Because I've washed mine a few times and the slick, krinkly feeling has lessened significantly.
It only cost that much because of the FR rating. If you are trying to compare quality and features at different price points, consider this jacket to be in the 180 to 250 range. As for the waterproofing, supposedly the massif elements is a membrane layered type fabric, but is also claimed to be a softshell. I would say that there probably is some sort of DWR treatment that needs routine reapplication.
Does anyone out there know of a reasonably priced OCP winter coat that's in regs? The fleece option is pretty much just a sweater. I honestly just want something like a simple Carhartt jacket for the winter months but definitely don't need/want a $700 parka lol. I don't care about fire resistant and all that crap, I just want to stay warm. There has to be some kind of middle ground.
Ecwcs gen iii, all it takes is learning how to use it. The biggest thing is not trying to dress for all conditions and activity levels all with one set up.
@user-gd7bh3ym5u I've never been cold wearing it with a waffle or fleece in the winter as an Infantryman crawling through the snow 🤷♂️ He could wear a marshmallow suit if they still issue those?
I recently saw a few jackets from Brooklyn Armed Forces in multicam that people were quite happy with. Also over here in Europe the ones from Arktis are quite good quality, don’t know about the availability in the us though.
@@RB-xv4si I literally have the LWOL jacket and pants (though they're in UCP). It's not Goretex either, it's proprietary from Massif. Tested it as well. Both came with tags explicitly stating: + FLAME RESISTANT + FOUR-WAY STRETCH + WINDPROOF + WATERPROOF/BREATHABLE FABRIC
@@RB-xv4siFREE was tested and initially fielded with three outer layers: LWOL, IWOL, AND EWOL (light, intermediate, and extreme respectively). They were roughly equivalent to wind jacket, soft shell, and hard shell. The army ended up dropping the LWOL level from the FREE system, but its still offered commercially by Massif.
Glad you did a review of this jacket. Everyone I know who was issued one swears by them. Sucks that they don’t issue them a lot unless you’re deploying or in aviation.
And they don’t even issue them to everyone deploying smh
@@unxlak1032I’m AF cyber and got issued one😂
I was USAF SF and I wore that top for years and no complaints fr fr.
Got that jacket about a year ago. It definitely looks great and keeps you plenty warm.
KANG TUGU! You had me rolling when you jumped in the shower with that joint on 😂
If you register your military email when you make an account on their website, there's a considerable discount
How much?
Excellent review. How hot did it get when zipped up? Looks like a close fit.
You're hilarious man! Thanks for this review!
welcome to Minot 🗿
that’s very snowy ❄️ and freezing 🥶 cold place in winter !
Shit had me dead as fuck😂
My son is stationed there now.
I'm on my second one, thankfully I've been issued them and haven't had to pay for them but for some reason mine wear out quickly, it starts with with stictching coming undone, then the color fades rapidly on the elbows, cuffs and pen pockets. I do wash mine and do follow the manufacturers washing directions but they still fade. Don't get me wrong I love it and being Security Forces and outside nearly all day every day it is a great cold weather jacket to have but they do seem to wear out quickly for me. Probably gonna bother supply for another one again soon.
Yeah you better clean that latrine with that $700 Jacket on!
🫡🫡🫡
I lucked out, just got one that looks brand new for $50 at a flea market.
Just picked one up from goodwill brand for $25
I have this same one, got it free in the army, (I'm a fueler)
Former 15P Army Aviation 25th ID yadda yadda I got one in my travels overseas for free had numerous offers to sell it my only memorabilia
Any new news about the Space Force?
I was issued one of these and I'm underwhelmed with it at it's price point. I wasn't aware it was waterproof though, that might change my mind on it. Do you know if it is just a waterproof treatment? Because I've washed mine a few times and the slick, krinkly feeling has lessened significantly.
It only cost that much because of the FR rating. If you are trying to compare quality and features at different price points, consider this jacket to be in the 180 to 250 range. As for the waterproofing, supposedly the massif elements is a membrane layered type fabric, but is also claimed to be a softshell. I would say that there probably is some sort of DWR treatment that needs routine reapplication.
don’t you guys in the military always get issued with those camouflage jackets anyway ? ?
Some of us do who live in the cold. I live in the snowiest AFB and they won’t give us these though. 😢
@@jong7772 why not ? ?
do you have to buy your own ? ?
Enlisted folks get an annual uniform allowance but yes it does depend on the unit if they issue out cold weather gear
What kind of dog is that? She’s adorable!
So glad I got mine for $150 😭
Maybe in Hawaï that fleece from the ecwcs is wearable as an outer layer, wind goes right through that thing!!! Pretty useless as an outer layer.
Does anyone out there know of a reasonably priced OCP winter coat that's in regs? The fleece option is pretty much just a sweater. I honestly just want something like a simple Carhartt jacket for the winter months but definitely don't need/want a $700 parka lol. I don't care about fire resistant and all that crap, I just want to stay warm. There has to be some kind of middle ground.
Ecwcs gen iii, all it takes is learning how to use it. The biggest thing is not trying to dress for all conditions and activity levels all with one set up.
Just wear the gor-tex and a waffle top under it
@user-gd7bh3ym5u I've never been cold wearing it with a waffle or fleece in the winter as an Infantryman crawling through the snow 🤷♂️ He could wear a marshmallow suit if they still issue those?
I recently saw a few jackets from Brooklyn Armed Forces in multicam that people were quite happy with. Also over here in Europe the ones from Arktis are quite good quality, don’t know about the availability in the us though.
Great to know, thanks for the heads up!@@marcelt7203
Do a 2 year contract and you’ll get it for free 😂
Don't pay full price if you're active or prior service! They have a massive discount!
How much?
That jacket is not waterproof. It’s water resistant. It’s not like a Gotetex 3-layer fabric.
It’s fully waterproof.
@@ponraul1221 wrong. Even the product page of their own website identifies it as “highly water resistant”. That is not water proof.
@@RB-xv4si I literally have the LWOL jacket and pants (though they're in UCP). It's not Goretex either, it's proprietary from Massif. Tested it as well. Both came with tags explicitly stating:
+ FLAME RESISTANT
+ FOUR-WAY STRETCH
+ WINDPROOF
+ WATERPROOF/BREATHABLE FABRIC
@@ponraul1221 wtf is LWOL? That doesn’t exist. There’s CWAS and IWOL.
@@RB-xv4siFREE was tested and initially fielded with three outer layers: LWOL, IWOL, AND EWOL (light, intermediate, and extreme respectively). They were roughly equivalent to wind jacket, soft shell, and hard shell. The army ended up dropping the LWOL level from the FREE system, but its still offered commercially by Massif.
I was able to get this for free . I’m in the US ARMY