No LATIN AMERICA!!! USA is just a small portion. At least u can still get higher jobs and be on tv..Latin America… especially MEXICO… most all are light.. and have the best jobs
@@bevs9995 No LATIN AMERICA!!! USA is just a small portion. At least u can still get higher jobs and be on tv..Latin America… especially MEXICO… most all are light.. and have the best jobs
As an asian Japanese/Filipino who grew up Dark Skin like Reddish Brown colour. I've experienced tons of self doubt hate even from my own family they're all light skin the things I have experienced were horrifying to the point that I wanted to commit suicide. My own mother wanted me to use Whitening soap after a long day of exercise outside when I was playing basketball, I got kicked by my brother in the back when we were watching TV cuz he said i'm absorbing all the light that stung me till now I was 10 years old. The things I've experienced in society that only benefits the light skinned people hurts me so much. Even in social media in the Japan if they see someone who is tanned and doing some normal mundane stuff like dancing they'll get laughed at and called ugly... This world needs to change.
@@tonyadakari8353 Suggesting 'loving who you are' doesn't fully grasp the seriousness of the situation. The individual sharing their experience didn't express self-hatred; rather, they seemed frustrated by the mistreatment associated with having dark skin. It's possible to embrace one's skin tone while also speaking out against the unfairness faced. It's like telling someone who's experienced racism to simply love themselves-it overlooks the deeper issues and fails to address the root problem.
"Within the black community, light skin men face colorism" Yeah, light skin men's life is so tough Jeremy Meeks life is so tough- he's just so rejected - by everyone. He's so rejected by the black community, in fact, that he only dates white women.
With each... other! a lot of times ..the light skinned dude or women ..get away with things ..while us Dark skin men are under a microscope ...We cant even frown or show emotion without getting threatened .. via the police ...he is aggressive .....etc...damn im so sick of ppl using this ...The worst racism colorism you can imagine...Us Dark skinned men are the scapegoats of this planet. Other colors commit the same. Crimes ...The Media will have your Subconscious believing the dark skin man did it😢
It wz a man that had power over the people, a there wz a brave handsome man that lived in the same town, the man of power walked up to the brave handsome man and said, I DON'T LIKE YOU, the brave handsome man said, will I don't like you, the man with power said o-yah, well unfortunately I can do anything about it.... the brave man wz never heard from again....who defined who... that's my life... over and over mother of power, landlord of power, boss of power....I wz never heard from again... MK 😎
I don't think light-skinned people hate dark-skinned people, I think it's more about being afraid of being dark-skinned. I don’t think people pursue skin color, what everyone pursues is class and recognition. So if we bring more dark skin people at the front, the world would automatically became more diverse, because we get to see more dark skin images, especially in the entertainment industry…. Young people are all there, we need more dark skin stars in the industry, we really need more!!!!!!
I’m ultra pale alabaster white pro max, so I kind of relate in the opposite way. “Go spend some time outside, get off your computer, get some sun, get a tan”. Person at work walking in: “reveal your arm”, “what no, I burn quickly even indoors” , “let me see” “fine”. (I show my arm, and they start showing off how tan they are compared to me). “You ghost” “whatever, dude”
Every day I thank my beautiful mother for always reminding me how beautiful my skin was, she knew I would need it. I've never felt the need to be lighter. I can't wait to do the same for my future children
Did you know that, on dating sites, Asian men & black women are the least "DESIRED" & black men where right after the asian men. People decide how attractive you're, not you ! & guess what, black's are not seen (nor have they ever been) as "ATTRACTIVE" 😐 Skin the colour of poo, feature's similar to a 🐵 FACTS ARE FACTS, get over yourself Embrace the truth 🙄
I’m so glad at the beginning the woman with the short hair made it clear the difference btwn colorism & the comments that some light skin ppl get that’s unfavorable. There’s a difference
Colorism might be the most important issue we face. Five of the most successful blacks (President Obama, Beyonce, Mariah Carey, Halle Berry, Alicia Keys) have white people in their bloodline. And many of the people who benefit from colorism don't see it as a problem. There's a black talk radio station (900 am) in Philly. It's rare for them to talk about it. I'm glad we're no longer living in the dark ages when old media was the only game in town. We now have something (internet) that lets us communicate. These actors (Zendaya, Alexandra Shipp, Thandiwe Newton) have spoken about colorism. Whether you agree or disagree with their opinions you should try to get as much info on this topic as possible. For the record I'm a black man. I'm not very dark or very light.
I am a South Asian woman, and I agree with you. Colorism is a huge issue which is running rampant across the globe it seems. Our media (for example T-series on youtube) is promoting colorism too by only featuring light skinned people... despite India featuring people of many, many deeper shades. We even had a famous skin lightening cream known as "Fair & Lovely" on the market. Countries in East Asia have this same problem. The Philippines, Japan, China, Indonesia, Korea, to name a few all have fair skin as a beauty standard, and will only feature light skinned people in the media... K-pop is constantly ripping off black culture, and then ironically promoting colorist ideals for their idols (for example, BTS) When will this madness end? When will the world realize that being white DOES NOT make you a superhuman? The quite literal and scientific definition of skin colour is the amount of melanin which resides in the skin. A PROTECTIVE MOLECULE, which prevents us from recieving damage from the sun. How does having more or less melanin have anything to do with intelligence, capability, prestige or attractiveness like the mainstream media wants us to think. There is literally no correlation.
@@yoyo9655 people need to be willing to educate themselves. The problem is that there are often very loud, angry and condescending voices most times these conversations are had in mixed company. Those people have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo, often because they sit in a place of privilege. People who know better need to be prepared for that reality & still be willing to speak truth to power against those with venom in their rhetoric
Watching the documentary now. It's absolutely shocking to think racism happens within families too ... As a mother of a biracial child I couldn't ever imagine anyone that I know call her the N word , let alone me calling it to her...I'm sorry to anyone who has ever been through this xx
It does. My husband that is white/nativeMexican his family is brainwashed..Let me explain..His parent’s are the only one that accepted me fully and still see me as their own, yet his godparents and uncles and the others show their hatred for anti blackness..They are two faces..behind my back they told my husband once..Your so handsome why choose me lol when i know clearly i am pretty..it’s just my skin color(brown) He laughed once when he said my godfather basically said your ugly and i told him that’s not funny and he just don’t know about the colorism.. Other times was when his second god mother i remember when she saw me it was like shockness(she thought i would be Mexican lol 😂) Anyways i never really seen her sense, but they are fake. Anyways, i think they know my husband tells me EVERYTHING and so they don’t ask about me as much because they got caught.. I dont want to see them, i don’t want to be around them because it to much negativity..His god mother try to ask about me and see me(yet i don’t like her either) She fake..Anyways i am scared for my future kids..I don’t understand how a race can be Catholic..and say they love Jesús yet deny and hate others for being different…
Why are there no East Asian, North African people on this panel? Some of the most brutal, over abuse of dark skinned people I have witness is in East Asian media. Colorism is not just experienced by decedents of of Africa (and that includes going back 200+ years). Because or European imperialism and the spread of White supremacy through colonization historically, Asian and Latin folks who are dark skinned ALSO experience deep bias toward their skin town and complexion. Skin whitening is considered a normal part of regular skin care ACROSS all of Asia (for instance)
I feel, as a black woman, it's exactly down to us to fix the problem and redefine the narative on our terms. We didn't create the problem, but i don't trust anyone else to fix it.
Right. I heavily went through colorism as a result of my skin complexion back then in the 2000s and early-mid 2010s. I’m 26 now. I knew nothing about the word “colorism” until way after high school.
Here's a thought, if you lived in..... let's say one of the many black countries on earth. You would not experience prejudice/ racism bla bla bla. Do you understand what I am saying. Don't occupy a white country & expect to NOT experience some sh*t, it will be inevitable 😐 U DO HAVE A "CHOICE"
I would love for a more inter-sectional conversation that included... Featurism, Hair Texture, Body types, speech patterns (accents), and class/social status, and educational backgrounds. All that plays into the package as well.
Agreed, and the powers that be in media & business who push these belief systems, as well as historical contexts behind those narratives. All things that should be taught in schools tbh rather than the current watered down revisionist history
Amen! I commented about the same thing too before even seeing your comment. Very true because all those elements play a big part of the different ways one can experience colorism
I am a light-skinned Black woman in the US, and I totally understand that there are hardships that dark-skinned women endure but light-skinned women don't. All mistreatment makes me sad. However, maybe there needs to be a word that refers to the bullying that light-skinned youngsters (like me) endured as a child from darker-skinned girls. I realize that word isn't "colorism," but I don't know what that word would be.
Stop hating my black skin and my black features and my black existence . All my blackness is made of love . Recondition your mind tie black with love .
Ignore them! Coloured skin have strength(me said) even if coloured is ugly(white said). We know white is beautiful, only beauty, but they will be more darker than blacks or die first because cancer when forcing the second sun soon.
Great conversation. However, what about hair type and colourist. I see there were some people on the show wearing wigs. We need to go a lot further and see the beauty in tight curly hair and proudly promote. Even if you are light skin with c4 hair, you are seen by some, on a lower standing than someone light skinned and straight hair type.
That’s a good talking point, I believe the term is texturism? I’ve had a few conversations about that as well. It all an umbrella under racism same with featurism. Some darkskin people are championed for having smaller noses, etc too.
They did talk about that. The girl who said she's Tamil. She talked about being dark, but straight hair and being seen as "white adjacent" in certain circles.
Being a white man with ancestors from northern europe, I think this is very interesting. We never had any concept of colorism in our family or community. We just were what we were born with and never thought about it.
Though blondes are prioritized as the beauty standards in the white/European community. Even Hitler thought blonde, blue eyed whites were superior. So the white community has its own colour issues.
Skin bleaching is a very ancient practice dating back to mostly east Asia. East Asians are already fair skinned but like to be even paler, because of social class (indoor person: rich and pale / outdoor person: poor and tan aka fieldworker). Europeans before the 18th century and in vitctorian era also used skin bleaching products, because it had the same meaning as the Asian reason, but during the industrial revolution everything changed. Poor people started working in factories, stayed pale and developed Rickets (vitamin d deficiency caused disease), so rich white people started going on vacation and sun tan to show off they are rich. I’m Irish so I’m always pale (in the sun I only burn), so there is that.
I would like to say, as a Caucasian woman, that, to me, all people should only be based on their insides, not their outsides. To me, your entire panel is beautiful, highly intelligent and deserve to be treated as individuals, only, and respected as such. I realize that I have never had or comprehend the challenges any of you have had to contend with and firmly believe that no one should have to face them. I look forward to the day when no one is based on their external appearance and are just based on who they are. I learned a great deal from your panel. Thank you for having the conversation and expressing yourselves so eloquently. Best to all!
As a side note, I don't understand why hip hop music has to be played whenever black people appear on TV. That's also a strange phenomenon I've noticed over the years.
A black woman would prefer a lighter skin man, that's abusive then me with her taking to her or like, when I told a black woman i liked her, she was deeply offended, and would prefer to be with a man with a wife or bumb then me , my own mother didn't like me.... MK 😎
from a predominantly scottish community, people seem to notice the slightly swarthier complected, though don't expressly discriminate. I fail to notice the difference perhaps because of exposure to a much broader spectrum, rendering these details as extremely small to unnoticeable
To be honest out of my whole life i only had two incidences of discrimination by my own people. One i was at a dance and a dark skin boy walked by me and made the sound of "ugh ". I just turned to him and said " i can say the same thing about you " and walked away. The next incident i was in a club and a ligh brown brother just walked up to me and said i normally do not talk to dark skin women but i find you to be a very beautiful dark skin woman. i literally laughed at him. But , he was so mesmerized he gave me his number. I never called him. These two incidents are the only time i faced colorism amonngst my own males. Thereafter , i can honestly say i have dated men of every shade and race. I had female friends who were of various shades and at one time my best friend was of biracial background who was a cream shade who labeled herself as black. I in no way allowed anyone to demean me because of my hershey chocolate skin tone , and if anyone did i would immediately go into a history lesson of how shade was created and a line i would start out with is the white mans Bible of subjection to keep people of African DNA subjected to their false superiority . But , it starts out " from darkness came light". The darker gender is the most feared because of the potentency. Know this. It is a potency that can transform pure white to obsolete. We are seeing it today. Asians are not white , native americans are not white. Hispanics are not white , arabs are not white and of course african dna are not white but they can lose their purity by mixing. But know , that color will wipe out white.
Also Arbs, Hispanics they are still KKK… trust me be careful. They are also brainwashed thanks to whites… It does. My husband that is white/nativeMexican his family is brainwashed..Let me explain..His parent’s are the only one that accepted me fully and still see me as their own, yet his godparents and uncles and the others show their hatred for anti blackness..They are two faces..behind my back they told my husband once..Your so handsome why choose me lol when i know clearly i am pretty..it’s just my skin color(brown) He laughed once when he said my godfather basically said your ugly and i told him that’s not funny and he just don’t know about the colorism.. Other times was when his second god mother i remember when she saw me it was like shockness(she thought i would be Mexican lol 😂) Anyways i never really seen her sense, but they are fake. Anyways, i think they know my husband tells me EVERYTHING and so they don’t ask about me as much because they got caught.. I dont want to see them, i don’t want to be around them because it to much negativity..His god mother try to ask about me and see me(yet i don’t like her either) She fake..Anyways i am scared for my future kids..I don’t understand how a race can be Catholic..and say they love Jesús yet deny and hate others for being different…Oh recently his god parents adopted mixed white/Hispanics kids(2 girls) they have light skin and pretty red hair and guess what…The godmother like they are so beautiful.. My husband mom was like,but it not his kids..anyways i feel so sad for those people because they are truly living base on society laws lol not the laws of God…
The short hair lady didn’t seem to be understanding that lighter skin/mixed race people face colorism also. The experience is harsh when no one accepts you…. You’re not dark enough and you’re not white enough. Black people sometimes hate their own lighter skin black people. It’s sad, because “light skinned privilege” leads to a lonely world. Speaking from experience my friends. Why don’t we all just stop judging and help each other no matter the color of your skin.
My bi-racial niece, as a middle schooler, was forced to change schools because the school's majority population of dark-skinned black girls could not handle her presence, being deeply envious and resentful of her very light skin and flowing long natural hair, along with her high scholastic achievements and honors. Because of these attributes my niece was often physically assaulted by her darker school mates. For her safety she had to transfer to another school.
They don't face colorism, just like how white people don't face racism and men don't face sexism. All of these terms have a certain meaning, with historial context where the people are marginalised. The light skin people who face bullying due to be light skin is due to prejudice - maybe its 'reverse-colorism' but it's not 'colorism'. Btw I am a light skinned South Asian, similar to Tan France
@@Ri57490 lol i am light skinned indian men from himanchal i am paler than average European and i faced a lot colourism in mainland india offcourse some people in India treat light skinned people's as god but they are many people's who are jealousy and bully me hates me
I've never hated myself because of me being dark-skinned I've always embraced my skin complexion I've always had people of other nationalities say that I was beautiful and my skin complexion they were jealous of and my hair. I mean I've had of course people of my own nationality say mean things about the color of my skin but it never hurted my feelings but why should it Jesus was black and he was blacker than me
Great conversation and quite informing. How come there is only 1-male person of colour on the panel? It would be interesting to get the perspective of BAME Male perspectives.
theres a real fact of physics at play here though, that black is literally dark and white is literally light. darkness is literally the absence of light and carries connotations of mystery, danger, the unknown, the unseen, difficulty to trespass or discern or understand... it seems a juvenile and inconsequential point, but I think its quite at the root of fear and unrelateability that exist in this superficial barrier. you can literally see the shadows on lighter skin easier and perhaps have a perception that you can read them better or relate to them, as long as they are expressing, or you might find them less mysterious or less dangerous, appearing to be less adapted to utility in outdoor environments. much like neonatalism can be comforting and attractive, retaining traits of youthfulness or child-like features, assisting in social cohesion and establishing supports. babies benefit from being noticed, thus they are cute and loud, etc. at some level lightening makes sense in all ways to some degree. of course, its negligible most of time-- you arent literally going to lose track of a darker baby... but there willl probably be a tendency which favours recognition and attention toward lightness by physics alone
So many unintentional revelations. So they had to endure majority-'non-black' classes but they live in northern Europe? What's the point of discussing colourism wearing weaves or long Disney Princess-style wigs?
This is quite sad. I wore a wig because I experienced a magnitude of hair loss due to postpartum hair loss and stress. I also wore my hair proudly and natural in highschool and every other time after. It also doesn’t matter what I do with my hair because it doesn’t negate my experience as a dark skinned black woman. I grew up in the U.S. It was horrible just like over in the U.K and believe it or not there are schools that have that demographic in them. It’s not hard to look up either
Just admit you’re too stupid to understand this and that you’re actually racist. Your other comment calling this ‘Woke BBC’ just tells everyone how dumb you actually are.
I am a light skinned asian. Growing up i was friends with a black girl. Trust me when I say that I wasn't treated better. I was the short one with bulging eyes and she was a long legged beauty
Have you people got nothing else better to think or talk about These people are obsessed with skin tone. Most of it is all in their head. For the love of God, just get on with your lives, not all of us look at skin colour, let alone how dark or light it is. Contribute to society positively
A lot of people actually will treat you differently(particularly in a bad way.) If you have darker skin. Your skin is probably on the more fair side. So you simply won't understand.
UK been white for hundred of years. Of course people going be angry. With culture shock and the rest. If your born here British that it. Don't matter colour your are. But I don't want TV show about it come on now. All this woke shit driving up the me up the wall. Don't want a white day. Stop In Africa they got rid of all the white farmers. If there was more white people then African native population. Then there should and would be outcry It's OK for people to share there opinions you know. Don't need the troll squad to come up. I am no racist and I have no hate.
@Jeremy Grigson did i accuse you to be racist. u got triggered just because i recommended to you to move on if this content is not in your liking. can you pls point out where in my comment did i say you would be racist? lmao. if u had difficulty to comprehend: if this content is not in your liking then move. maybe u felt triggered and exposed? idk. but like you said. its for people who are unaware about certain social topics that you maybe dont face and struggle with! so if you want to learn about the member in your socitey shut up, educade yourself, listen and then talk! and stop complaining about it. otherwise its looks like a sign of unwillingness to learn about something you are not familiar with. or else move and let people discuss about it in peace without constant complaining. label it as "woke" just because people want to discuss about social topic and raise awarness about that.
The worst features is when you are looking Arabian or Persian. Nastiest race never existed. I wish i had either pale skin like Polish or black skin like Tanzanian.
The dark skin colorism is sooooo real especially in USA.
Because they're not from here
far worse in asia
No LATIN AMERICA!!! USA is just a small portion. At least u can still get higher jobs and be on tv..Latin America… especially MEXICO… most all are light.. and have the best jobs
@@bevs9995 No LATIN AMERICA!!! USA is just a small portion. At least u can still get higher jobs and be on tv..Latin America… especially MEXICO… most all are light.. and have the best jobs
@@ayuanabradford3206 Duh of course. It's media and they promote white skin the world over.
As an asian Japanese/Filipino who grew up Dark Skin like Reddish Brown colour. I've experienced tons of self doubt hate even from my own family they're all light skin the things I have experienced were horrifying to the point that I wanted to commit suicide. My own mother wanted me to use Whitening soap after a long day of exercise outside when I was playing basketball, I got kicked by my brother in the back when we were watching TV cuz he said i'm absorbing all the light that stung me till now I was 10 years old. The things I've experienced in society that only benefits the light skinned people hurts me so much. Even in social media in the Japan if they see someone who is tanned and doing some normal mundane stuff like dancing they'll get laughed at and called ugly... This world needs to change.
Change it by loving who you are.❤
@@tonyadakari8353 Preach that! Say it loud so the others can hear 📣📢
@@tonyadakari8353 Suggesting 'loving who you are' doesn't fully grasp the seriousness of the situation. The individual sharing their experience didn't express self-hatred; rather, they seemed frustrated by the mistreatment associated with having dark skin. It's possible to embrace one's skin tone while also speaking out against the unfairness faced. It's like telling someone who's experienced racism to simply love themselves-it overlooks the deeper issues and fails to address the root problem.
Azn people in general hate themselves and simultaneously worship whiteness it's pretty weird.
Within the black community, light skin men and dark skin women face colorism.
This is so true 💯
Hell no i am light skinned men but i get much more girls than dark skinned men
It only exist if you allow it. I never did and I am a Hershey chocolate sister who dated various shades and colors.
"Within the black community, light skin men face colorism"
Yeah, light skin men's life is so tough
Jeremy Meeks life is so tough- he's just so rejected - by everyone.
He's so rejected by the black community, in fact, that he only dates white women.
With each... other! a lot of times ..the light skinned dude or women ..get away with things ..while us Dark skin men are under a microscope ...We cant even frown or show emotion without getting threatened .. via the police ...he is aggressive .....etc...damn im so sick of ppl using this ...The worst racism colorism you can imagine...Us Dark skinned men are the scapegoats of this planet. Other colors commit the same. Crimes ...The Media will have your Subconscious believing the dark skin man did it😢
I hated myself for my dark skin, until I discovered I look amazing. We shouldn't let what people say define what we look!!
You make no sense 😬
Yes, we dark skin are also beautifully
It wz a man that had power over the people, a there wz a brave handsome man that lived in the same town, the man of power walked up to the brave handsome man and said, I DON'T LIKE YOU, the brave handsome man said, will I don't like you, the man with power said o-yah, well unfortunately I can do anything about it.... the brave man wz never heard from again....who defined who... that's my life... over and over mother of power, landlord of power, boss of power....I wz never heard from again... MK 😎
@@jamesmontana1881he makes sense tho
@@jamesmontana1881 makes perfect sense to me..
I don't think light-skinned people hate dark-skinned people, I think it's more about being afraid of being dark-skinned. I don’t think people pursue skin color, what everyone pursues is class and recognition. So if we bring more dark skin people at the front, the world would automatically became more diverse, because we get to see more dark skin images, especially in the entertainment industry…. Young people are all there, we need more dark skin stars in the industry, we really need more!!!!!!
I’m ultra pale alabaster white pro max, so I kind of relate in the opposite way. “Go spend some time outside, get off your computer, get some sun, get a tan”. Person at work walking in: “reveal your arm”, “what no, I burn quickly even indoors” , “let me see” “fine”. (I show my arm, and they start showing off how tan they are compared to me). “You ghost” “whatever, dude”
Every day I thank my beautiful mother for always reminding me how beautiful my skin was, she knew I would need it. I've never felt the need to be lighter. I can't wait to do the same for my future children
Did you know that, on dating sites, Asian men & black women are the least "DESIRED"
& black men where right after the asian men.
People decide how attractive you're, not you !
& guess what, black's are not seen (nor have they ever been)
as "ATTRACTIVE" 😐
Skin the colour of poo, feature's similar to a 🐵
FACTS ARE FACTS,
get over yourself
Embrace the truth 🙄
@@jamesmontana1881based
Great conversation. I'm so happy to see this talked about across races. It's seen all over and needs to be addressed
I’m so glad at the beginning the woman with the short hair made it clear the difference btwn colorism & the comments that some light skin ppl get that’s unfavorable. There’s a difference
Colorism might be the most important issue we face. Five of the most successful blacks (President Obama, Beyonce, Mariah Carey, Halle Berry, Alicia Keys) have white people in their bloodline. And many of the people who benefit from colorism don't see it as a problem. There's a black talk radio station (900 am) in Philly. It's rare for them to talk about it. I'm glad we're no longer living in the dark ages when old media was the only game in town. We now have something (internet) that lets us communicate. These actors (Zendaya, Alexandra Shipp, Thandiwe Newton) have spoken about colorism. Whether you agree or disagree with their opinions you should try to get as much info on this topic as possible. For the record I'm a black man. I'm not very dark or very light.
I am a South Asian woman, and I agree with you. Colorism is a huge issue which is running rampant across the globe it seems. Our media (for example T-series on youtube) is promoting colorism too by only featuring light skinned people... despite India featuring people of many, many deeper shades. We even had a famous skin lightening cream known as "Fair & Lovely" on the market.
Countries in East Asia have this same problem. The Philippines, Japan, China, Indonesia, Korea, to name a few all have fair skin as a beauty standard, and will only feature light skinned people in the media...
K-pop is constantly ripping off black culture, and then ironically promoting colorist ideals for their idols (for example, BTS)
When will this madness end? When will the world realize that being white DOES NOT make you a superhuman?
The quite literal and scientific definition of skin colour is the amount of melanin which resides in the skin. A PROTECTIVE MOLECULE, which prevents us from recieving damage from the sun.
How does having more or less melanin have anything to do with intelligence, capability, prestige or attractiveness like the mainstream media wants us to think. There is literally no correlation.
@@yoyo9655 people need to be willing to educate themselves. The problem is that there are often very loud, angry and condescending voices most times these conversations are had in mixed company. Those people have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo, often because they sit in a place of privilege. People who know better need to be prepared for that reality & still be willing to speak truth to power against those with venom in their rhetoric
What colourism are most the top 50 rappers ??? Maybe they need a discussion about that
The people you listed have one white parent, therefore they are biracial not black.
Beyonce doesn't have a white parent.
Watching the documentary now. It's absolutely shocking to think racism happens within families too ... As a mother of a biracial child I couldn't ever imagine anyone that I know call her the N word , let alone me calling it to her...I'm sorry to anyone who has ever been through this xx
it happens in families all the time.
@@racheljones4561 heartbreaking, x
Sooooo why breed with a 🐒
It does. My husband that is white/nativeMexican his family is brainwashed..Let me explain..His parent’s are the only one that accepted me fully and still see me as their own, yet his godparents and uncles and the others show their hatred for anti blackness..They are two faces..behind my back they told my husband once..Your so handsome why choose me lol when i know clearly i am pretty..it’s just my skin color(brown) He laughed once when he said my godfather basically said your ugly and i told him that’s not funny and he just don’t know about the colorism.. Other times was when his second god mother i remember when she saw me it was like shockness(she thought i would be Mexican lol 😂) Anyways i never really seen her sense, but they are fake. Anyways, i think they know my husband tells me EVERYTHING and so they don’t ask about me as much because they got caught.. I dont want to see them, i don’t want to be around them because it to much negativity..His god mother try to ask about me and see me(yet i don’t like her either) She fake..Anyways i am scared for my future kids..I don’t understand how a race can be Catholic..and say they love Jesús yet deny and hate others for being different…
Why are there no East Asian, North African people on this panel? Some of the most brutal, over abuse of dark skinned people I have witness is in East Asian media. Colorism is not just experienced by decedents of of Africa (and that includes going back 200+ years). Because or European imperialism and the spread of White supremacy through colonization historically, Asian and Latin folks who are dark skinned ALSO experience deep bias toward their skin town and complexion. Skin whitening is considered a normal part of regular skin care ACROSS all of Asia (for instance)
I feel, as a black woman, it's exactly down to us to fix the problem and redefine the narative on our terms. We didn't create the problem, but i don't trust anyone else to fix it.
True I'm a very dark skin man and go through colorism and sometimes discrimination in 2022 🤷🏿 well that's not cool but then it's all about self love.
Right. I heavily went through colorism as a result of my skin complexion back then in the 2000s and early-mid 2010s. I’m 26 now. I knew nothing about the word “colorism” until way after high school.
Here's a thought, if you lived in..... let's say one of the many black countries on earth.
You would not experience prejudice/ racism bla bla bla.
Do you understand what I am saying.
Don't occupy a white country & expect to NOT experience some sh*t, it will be inevitable 😐
U DO HAVE A "CHOICE"
@@jamesmontana1881least obvious racist troll lmfao.
Sheerah is amazing so intellectual with such knowledge on this subject ❤️.
Amazing and long overdue convo, which we’re far from ending and truly healing from
I would love for a more inter-sectional conversation that included... Featurism, Hair Texture, Body types, speech patterns (accents), and class/social status, and educational backgrounds. All that plays into the package as well.
Id like to see a conversation about inter-sectional ideas and their roots in Marxism and the Soviet Union.
Agreed, and the powers that be in media & business who push these belief systems, as well as historical contexts behind those narratives. All things that should be taught in schools tbh rather than the current watered down revisionist history
Absolutely!
Don’t forget the featurism in hair colour, brown ginger black blonde & eye colour brown green black blue as that would be a great discussion also
Amen! I commented about the same thing too before even seeing your comment. Very true because all those elements play a big part of the different ways one can experience colorism
I am a light-skinned Black woman in the US, and I totally understand that there are hardships that dark-skinned women endure but light-skinned women don't. All mistreatment makes me sad. However, maybe there needs to be a word that refers to the bullying that light-skinned youngsters (like me) endured as a child from darker-skinned girls. I realize that word isn't "colorism," but I don't know what that word would be.
Stop hating my black skin and my black features and my black existence . All my blackness is made of love . Recondition your mind tie black with love .
Ignore them! Coloured skin have strength(me said) even if coloured is ugly(white said). We know white is beautiful, only beauty, but they will be more darker than blacks or die first because cancer when forcing the second sun soon.
Hatred for what? I'm black Africa and I'm proud. I have never liked white skined any way
Because you're jealous of us
I don't think so, after 30 you age really badly.@@phukyew14
I really wish I could view the documentary here, in the USA.
Great conversation. However, what about hair type and colourist. I see there were some people on the show wearing wigs. We need to go a lot further and see the beauty in tight curly hair and proudly promote. Even if you are light skin with c4 hair, you are seen by some, on a lower standing than someone light skinned and straight hair type.
That’s a good talking point, I believe the term is texturism? I’ve had a few conversations about that as well. It all an umbrella under racism same with featurism. Some darkskin people are championed for having smaller noses, etc too.
They did talk about that. The girl who said she's Tamil. She talked about being dark, but straight hair and being seen as "white adjacent" in certain circles.
4c
This was a well run authentic and honest produced show.
I noticed skin bleaching is quite a thing in S.E. Asia.
People risk their life to buy dangerous cream lightening products here.
They need to stop. Love the color that you are born with. Stand up and be proud. You're not Europeans and say it with your chest.
Luv you Ladies and Tan. You all guys are gorgeous and beautiful. Thanks for sharing !!!
Beautiful brown Skin is amazing..✨️✨️..the Sun kisses it with more enerG .....melanin coated💫🥂🙌🏿
Loved this conversation.
Being a white man with ancestors from northern europe, I think this is very interesting. We never had any concept of colorism in our family or community. We just were what we were born with and never thought about it.
Touche
Back when Europe was still Europe
@@phukyew14 yeah, things have changed. I travel there every year.
Because you're white try being black or dark skinned in Europe
Though blondes are prioritized as the beauty standards in the white/European community. Even Hitler thought blonde, blue eyed whites were superior. So the white community has its own colour issues.
Well done! a good documentary inviting everyone to join!
Skin bleaching is a very ancient practice dating back to mostly east Asia. East Asians are already fair skinned but like to be even paler, because of social class (indoor person: rich and pale / outdoor person: poor and tan aka fieldworker). Europeans before the 18th century and in vitctorian era also used skin bleaching products, because it had the same meaning as the Asian reason, but during the industrial revolution everything changed. Poor people started working in factories, stayed pale and developed Rickets (vitamin d deficiency caused disease), so rich white people started going on vacation and sun tan to show off they are rich. I’m Irish so I’m always pale (in the sun I only burn), so there is that.
Fascinating. I am an African-American of mixed-race stock and am light-skinned. I, too, must constantly use sun screen or get sunburned.
Wow I didn't know
Thanks for sharing!!
I would like to say, as a Caucasian woman, that, to me, all people should only be based on their insides, not their outsides. To me, your entire panel is beautiful, highly intelligent and deserve to be treated as individuals, only, and respected as such. I realize that I have never had or comprehend the challenges any of you have had to contend with and firmly believe that no one should have to face them. I look forward to the day when no one is based on their external appearance and are just based on who they are. I learned a great deal from your panel. Thank you for having the conversation and expressing yourselves so eloquently. Best to all!
Virtue signalling much 😬
Great to listen to people's experience and thoughts on colourism etc.
Right
Lady in white, on the green sofa, is fire!🔥🔥
I love Tan, I really want to see this now
As a side note, I don't understand why hip hop music has to be played whenever black people appear on TV. That's also a strange phenomenon I've noticed over the years.
Thank you
The crazy part about this brown skin is stuck in the middle and this crazy because I have been cast out because I was not dark nor light.
Yep. And that's never discussed.
Supa interesting doco🤔
She’s super light skinned for a Tamil.
And Indian skin bleaching products are not harmful at all.
they are all so pretty
I'm white, but this is very sad to listen to. No one should be more or less based on colour.
I wish I was as articulate as these women.
A black woman would prefer a lighter skin man, that's abusive then me with her taking to her or like, when I told a black woman i liked her, she was deeply offended, and would prefer to be with a man with a wife or bumb then me , my own mother didn't like me.... MK 😎
from a predominantly scottish community, people seem to notice the slightly swarthier complected, though don't expressly discriminate. I fail to notice the difference perhaps because of exposure to a much broader spectrum, rendering these details as extremely small to unnoticeable
Girl on the end with the hoops has a nice haircut ❤
To be honest out of my whole life i only had two incidences of discrimination by my own people. One i was at a dance and a dark skin boy walked by me and made the sound of "ugh ". I just turned to him and said " i can say the same thing about you " and walked away. The next incident i was in a club and a ligh brown brother just walked up to me and said i normally do not talk to dark skin women but i find you to be a very beautiful dark skin woman. i literally laughed at him. But , he was so mesmerized he gave me his number. I never called him. These two incidents are the only time i faced colorism amonngst my own males. Thereafter , i can honestly say i have dated men of every shade and race. I had female friends who were of various shades and at one time my best friend was of biracial background who was a cream shade who labeled herself as black. I in no way allowed anyone to demean me because of my hershey chocolate skin tone , and if anyone did i would immediately go into a history lesson of how shade was created and a line i would start out with is the white mans Bible of subjection to keep people of African DNA subjected to their false superiority . But , it starts out " from darkness came light". The darker gender is the most feared because of the potentency. Know this. It is a potency that can transform pure white to obsolete. We are seeing it today. Asians are not white , native americans are not white. Hispanics are not white , arabs are not white and of course african dna are not white but they can lose their purity by mixing. But know , that color will wipe out white.
Oh thats.. “Your pretty for a black girl” thing that most light skin guys say to any black
Girl that don’t look completely black
Also Arbs, Hispanics they are still KKK… trust me be careful. They are also brainwashed thanks to whites…
It does. My husband that is white/nativeMexican his family is brainwashed..Let me explain..His parent’s are the only one that accepted me fully and still see me as their own, yet his godparents and uncles and the others show their hatred for anti blackness..They are two faces..behind my back they told my husband once..Your so handsome why choose me lol when i know clearly i am pretty..it’s just my skin color(brown) He laughed once when he said my godfather basically said your ugly and i told him that’s not funny and he just don’t know about the colorism.. Other times was when his second god mother i remember when she saw me it was like shockness(she thought i would be Mexican lol 😂) Anyways i never really seen her sense, but they are fake. Anyways, i think they know my husband tells me EVERYTHING and so they don’t ask about me as much because they got caught.. I dont want to see them, i don’t want to be around them because it to much negativity..His god mother try to ask about me and see me(yet i don’t like her either) She fake..Anyways i am scared for my future kids..I don’t understand how a race can be Catholic..and say they love Jesús yet deny and hate others for being different…Oh recently his god parents adopted mixed white/Hispanics kids(2 girls) they have light skin and pretty red hair and guess what…The godmother like they are so beautiful.. My husband mom was like,but it not his kids..anyways i feel so sad for those people because they are truly living base on society laws lol not the laws of God…
@@ayuanabradford3206
What!!!!
The short hair lady didn’t seem to be understanding that lighter skin/mixed race people face colorism also. The experience is harsh when no one accepts you…. You’re not dark enough and you’re not white enough. Black people sometimes hate their own lighter skin black people. It’s sad, because “light skinned privilege” leads to a lonely world. Speaking from experience my friends. Why don’t we all just stop judging and help each other no matter the color of your skin.
My bi-racial niece, as a middle schooler, was forced to change schools because the school's majority population of dark-skinned black girls could not handle her presence, being deeply envious and resentful of her very light skin and flowing long natural hair, along with her high scholastic achievements and honors. Because of these attributes my niece was often physically assaulted by her darker school mates. For her safety she had to transfer to another school.
@@diannapenny5990 that is so sad and absolutely sad that happened to her. I have so many stories myself of not being accepted on any side.
They don't face colorism, just like how white people don't face racism and men don't face sexism. All of these terms have a certain meaning, with historial context where the people are marginalised. The light skin people who face bullying due to be light skin is due to prejudice - maybe its 'reverse-colorism' but it's not 'colorism'. Btw I am a light skinned South Asian, similar to Tan France
It’s literally not colorism by definition. Please reverse the video & look at the definition shown.
@@Ri57490 lol i am light skinned indian men from himanchal i am paler than average European and i faced a lot colourism in mainland india offcourse some people in India treat light skinned people's as god but they are many people's who are jealousy and bully me hates me
I can’t believe adults act like this
Colorism is denied just like racism...thank God many of us be have began to appreciate our fabulous beauty
I've never hated myself because of me being dark-skinned I've always embraced my skin complexion I've always had people of other nationalities say that I was beautiful and my skin complexion they were jealous of and my hair. I mean I've had of course people of my own nationality say mean things about the color of my skin but it never hurted my feelings but why should it Jesus was black and he was blacker than me
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I love my dark if people don't like it the hell with them❤😮😢😅🎉
Is Princess British or American?
Both 👍🏾
She's African*
Great conversation and quite informing. How come there is only 1-male person of colour on the panel? It would be interesting to get the perspective of BAME Male perspectives.
theres a real fact of physics at play here though, that black is literally dark and white is literally light. darkness is literally the absence of light and carries connotations of mystery, danger, the unknown, the unseen, difficulty to trespass or discern or understand... it seems a juvenile and inconsequential point, but I think its quite at the root of fear and unrelateability that exist in this superficial barrier. you can literally see the shadows on lighter skin easier and perhaps have a perception that you can read them better or relate to them, as long as they are expressing, or you might find them less mysterious or less dangerous, appearing to be less adapted to utility in outdoor environments.
much like neonatalism can be comforting and attractive, retaining traits of youthfulness or child-like features, assisting in social cohesion and establishing supports. babies benefit from being noticed, thus they are cute and loud, etc. at some level lightening makes sense in all ways to some degree. of course, its negligible most of time-- you arent literally going to lose track of a darker baby... but there willl probably be a tendency which favours recognition and attention toward lightness by physics alone
Lmao
Least obvious white
@@Blatgotyahattyof course they are 🤣 it’s their nature
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Acara yang luar biasa bagus 👍
They're still wearing weaves for some of them. So they still feel insecure.
We don't hate the skin. We hate the characteristics that come with it.
You say that now, but even the exceptional undesirables don't get treated fairly, and they do everything right it's more than character
I tried not to be racist but the numbers don't lie. Majority of A-Holes I dealt with were brown or dark skinned dudes.
But why only women ?
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So many unintentional revelations. So they had to endure majority-'non-black' classes but they live in northern Europe? What's the point of discussing colourism wearing weaves or long Disney Princess-style wigs?
This is quite sad. I wore a wig because I experienced a magnitude of hair loss due to postpartum hair loss and stress. I also wore my hair proudly and natural in highschool and every other time after. It also doesn’t matter what I do with my hair because it doesn’t negate my experience as a dark skinned black woman. I grew up in the U.S. It was horrible just like over in the U.K and believe it or not there are schools that have that demographic in them. It’s not hard to look up either
waves don't make you beautiful
😳 What The Actual F!!! 😳
😲 What Have I Just Watched?!?! 😲
Just admit you’re too stupid to understand this and that you’re actually racist. Your other comment calling this ‘Woke BBC’ just tells everyone how dumb you actually are.
BBC shite, the sooner this organisation is abolished the better. It is harmful to national unity.
I am a light skinned asian. Growing up i was friends with a black girl. Trust me when I say that I wasn't treated better. I was the short one with bulging eyes and she was a long legged beauty
We are all black...that's where we all started.
No we are not. We are not all black
I know what ya mean
Whitey stop haunting me with your whiteness
I really want to know how durable whites forcing the second sun. Do whites will be more darker than blacks or die first because burned
Why was the light skinned girl there? Her space should have been changed to someone who is darker
dark women waaring fake hair
nice ignorant stereo-type provided to you of course.. through media. you know nothing.
Ignoramus cannot even spell!
@@MonatheVampire81 dark women waaring fake hair:face-blue-smiling:
The BBC higher ups should be dragged from their offices and politely told this is not ok.
Does people discussing their experience offend you?
@@Unintelligentful probably
@@Unintelligentful yes
Have you people got nothing else better to think or talk about
These people are obsessed with skin tone. Most of it is all in their head.
For the love of God, just get on with your lives, not all of us look at skin colour, let alone how dark or light it is.
Contribute to society positively
A lot of people actually will treat you differently(particularly in a bad way.) If you have darker skin. Your skin is probably on the more fair side. So you simply won't understand.
@@revolution7565Go live in a dark country then
This is like a man getting angry at a woman complaining about her period pain. You can't relate so you dismiss it.
How does talking about their experiences make them “obsessed with skin tone”. The privilege is insane
Unrelated but saying non-blacks is just as rude as saying browns and stuff
No it’s not.
They are delusional, if not a bit crazy.
Thank you so much for having me! 🤎
What is this rubbish? BBC have lost there minds.
I guess you’re white Hayden.
@@Unintelligentful Yep
No, i think, you forget where you put your brain
Why is it rubbish? Can people not express their concerns to find a solution?
UK been white for hundred of years. Of course people going be angry. With culture shock and the rest. If your born here British that it. Don't matter colour your are.
But I don't want TV show about it come on now. All this woke shit driving up the me up the wall. Don't want a white day. Stop
In Africa they got rid of all the white farmers. If there was more white people then African native population. Then there should and would be outcry
It's OK for people to share there opinions you know. Don't need the troll squad to come up. I am no racist and I have no hate.
if it's ok to make fun of or discriminate against someones height, then its ok to discriminate against skin colour
Found the short man.
@@Unintelligentful username checks out...
Since when was it okay? Just because it happens and no one defended you, doesn’t make it okay.
I think you forgot to put your brain..
@@unamedperson9249 You can't even write in English correctly. Maybe look at yourself first.
Go woke go broke
Wishful thinking
Woke BBC!!! 🙄
if this is not your content then move somewhere else
Just say you’re racist and move on.
@Jeremy Grigson did i accuse you to be racist. u got triggered just because i recommended to you to move on if this content is not in your liking.
can you pls point out where in my comment did i say you would be racist? lmao. if u had difficulty to comprehend: if this content is not in your liking then move.
maybe u felt triggered and exposed? idk. but like you said. its for people who are unaware about certain social topics that you maybe dont face and struggle with! so if you want to learn about the member in your socitey shut up, educade yourself, listen and then talk! and stop complaining about it. otherwise its looks like a sign of unwillingness to learn about something you are not familiar with. or else move and let people discuss about it in peace without constant complaining. label it as "woke" just because people want to discuss about social topic and raise awarness about that.
It's always Good to be WOKE rather than SLEEP! A conscious mind is better than an unconscious one
Woke your own brain! You forget where you put your brain.
Like (Malcolm X Who taught you to have yourselves
I m almost dark skinned and hate every inch of it. Being white is better, people adore you and life is easier
Stop hating yourself no one is going to love you if you don't love who you are as a person and your appearance.
Don't believe the lies friend!!
The worst features is when you are looking Arabian or Persian.
Nastiest race never existed.
I wish i had either pale skin like Polish or black skin like Tanzanian.